Road to Kiteloops | Your first loops // Kiteboarding SA Masterclass
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2021
- The Kiteloop is a trick that changed my kiteboarding career!
In this 3 episode mini series I teach you how to get started with loops, all the way to kiteloops with downloops.
Part 1: Getting started with Kiteloops • Road to Kiteloops | Ge...
Part 2: Your first Kiteloops
Part 3: Bigger kiteloops with downloops • Road to Kiteloops | Ti...
00:19 Intro
00:55 The right jump
01:58 Keypoints
02:32 Your first Kiteloop
03:34 Keypoints
04:24 Kiteloop with small downloop
06:05 Keypoints
06:45 Next episode
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This video is priceless! Awesome tutorial!
Sweet! Enjoy the send!
Thank you for this series, Steven. Amazing content
My pleasure! Thanks for watching and the support 🤙
never thought about the connection of left/right foot landing and opposite loop.. great video thx a lot Steven🤙🏻👏
Happy to help! It's the little things that make your landings better. 🤙
Agreed. I just learnt something new and now understand that while I have been doing these 'Sent Jumps' @gethigheithmike that why landing left foot forward and helilooping to the right feels so much more comfortable than when looping left and left foot forward.
Thanks Steven, great tips.
Can you explain why my Body would be more stable if i downloop right with left foot forward? I allways do left left 😅
@@gansmaier3994 if you land left foot forward your body will be facing the right side of the wind window. So when you downloop to the right you'll face the kite and lean back against the pull.
If you would loop your kite to the left it will pull behind you.
Its similar to landing toeside vs heelside after a little pop.
@@stevenakkersdijk of course that makes sense. I looked some Video of me and found that i am doing left foot Front and loop to right. In earlyer days i did left left and improfed without thinking about. vimeo.com/228563358
Thanks for your Videos, i love your style
Thank you very much Steven 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
My pleasure!
its clear u love teaching and explaining... great videos Steven!
Cant wait for the superadvance masterclass lateback megaloop, bouggies or board off kiteloops :)
Awesome, thank you! I do really enjoy creating these videos. Especially when it helps people landing new tricks.
I'll see when I can do a video about kiteloop rotations. There is just a lot less demand for it and most people figure it out by riding with friends.
But I'll make a video on doing your first kiteloop rotations for sure. But I guess this is not what you're waiting for 😅
so great work, thank you!
Glad you like it!
very good explanation of Kiteloops. Thank you so much
You are most welcome!
Great content, Steven! Congratulations!
Glad you liked it!
Excellent progression. Thanks to your videos, I can now better analyze my kite loops and down loops to improve them. This video is perfect for me.
I'm glad to hear that! Enjoy your water time and improved technique 🤙
Perfect class mate
Thanks! Much appreciated
Great explanation. Step by step to goal.
Glad it was helpful!
very nice steven thanks for the help
Glad to help. Thanks for your support.
Epic Tutorials .. :) Thanks for this ..
Glad you like them!
All my life , everybody tells me to move the kite to 12 FASTER, now you are the first person to say slowly
The faster you steer the kite, the more power it delivers and the higher you could go. But this only works if you steer it in the correct way and make sure that the power pulls you up and not forward.
So there is a very fine balance between speed and control. But I would say the control is the most important of the two.
@@stevenakkersdijk Thanks for the quick and technical response,, where is the location? the beach looks nice
My pleasure, the video was shot at Dophin beach in Capetown.
Big up this man! Pulled my first "downloop" on a transition jump at 2m- here come the heliz :)
Awesome man! You're going to love the doors that the heliloop will offer 😉
Steven!! I am so stoked by your videos. I re- watched the darkslide video and these new loop vids. Then I went out and nailed the loops. I’m in love with you!! No disrespect to your girlfriend. I just think it’s super amazing to be able to watch some well photographed videos with clear instructions examining typical mistakes, and get good visuals then to be able to go to the beach and nail the trick. I was also able to get my backroll hand drag today. Thank you thank you thank you for putting the effort into these. 😊😊💕💕☀️☀️☀️🏄🏻♀️
Hey Rhonda
Thanks so much for this message and sorry for the late reply. Awesome to hear that you nailed it in the first session! Hope I have more golden tips like that hidden in my videos 😉
Enjoy the loops!
Your great teacher !
Thanks! I'm glad you think so 🤗
Super nice! Goede tips
Graag gedaan 🤙
Great videos thanks
Thanks for watching!
Really good thanks !
Glad you liked it!
Very Nice explanation!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice breakdown
My pleasure, have fun trying it out 😉
YES! Super stoked on this series Steven. Thank you for making it and putting so much effort in 🙏 This week definitely gave me some things to work on but I'm excited for the final episode for sure. I'll have to post a video when I finally land a big kiteloop 🤙 now if we can just get more women stoked on it too!
I'm so happy you're enjoying the series. Stoked people like yourself make all the effort worth it and I'm already looking forward to release the next one.
Looking forward to see the video, see if you can send it to me on either instagram or Facebook. I'm very curious 🤙
PS: I also think more girls should get in to the sport, but I think this is slowly happening.
@@stevenakkersdijk yes, I think it is as well. Cool to see some girls in the amateur comp that Big Air Kite just put on in Tarifa. Hoping we get a comp here in Maui again soon so I can throw down! And I'll be sure to send the video when I get it - IG is best for me 🤙
Looking forward to see it 🤙
Awesome video
Thanks!
Thks hele mooie tutorial
Graag gedaan, Bedankt voor de support 🤙
Awesome tips! Especially the tips on vertical takeoff and down loop direction to stabilize your body based on which way you land are great. I’ve been trying to get over my fear for looping I built by always having too much forward speed during the jump. This info will definitely help me get there.
Glad you enjoyed it! A vertical take off should help a lot with the kite recovery, you'll get it on the next session 🤙
Steven Akkersdijk YES, What a difference. Your tips finally cured my loop fear. I practiced the vertical takeoff with the loop in the right direction and managed to to stick about 30 loops at 5-6m high with no hard crashes. Going to practice a lot more but already looking forward to the next episode. Massive thanks!
I'm so happy to hear that! Super glad it's working out so well and that you've been sticking all those loops.
Keep on sending, once you get started there is no more stopping 😉
I agree 👍. And when Steven explains downloop options, it forces you to visualize trajectory of the kite
Very good video
Thanks!
awesome video dude so many amazing tips helped so much sent my first loops on a 9m today was definitely to overpowered but landed one, scariest part is the fast landing in boots 🤙🤙
Nice work! High speed landings in boots are mega scary 😅 Especially when overpowered.
I'm happy that you managed to land one! More coming next sessions 🤙😉
Steven Akkersdijk yeah thank you bro gets the heart going biggest smile on my face though 😂 maybe not next session we got 30 knots plus tomorrow in the uk 🤙🤙
Same here! Awesome conditions, but maybe a bit too much for practising new things 😅
Excellent again Steven. I was pretty sure that I am crashing my loops because I was not edging hard enough, but now I think its a combination of that and moving my kite up to 12 too quickly. We have some wind here over the weekend, so hopefully I can practice your tips and progress! Cheers!!!
You can do it! Most of the time it's a combination of the two.
Enjoy your weekend sessions 🚀
good info, if u ever in miami i kite here
Maybe see you there one day 🤙
Hey Steven great tips on kite loops and left or right foot landings. I only ever land with my right foot first which is why I now realize why I struggle with down looping to the right. I have to practice landing left foot forward out of a loop so I can down loop to the right so I can transition directions instead of continuing same direction. Who knew??
Secondly it was great meeting you in PEI and sorry about getting in your way😜
😂😂 All good man, was a fun sesion. Bit of a shame that you tangled up 🙈
I'm happy to hear that the tips are helping you, enjoy the sessions over there and I'm sure we'll meet again. Possibly even on PEI, I really enjoyed the island.
Hi Steven, thanks for the great videos. I hope you will touch base on the topic of timing in the next episode. When should we crank the bar? when would be too early or when would be too late?
Great suggestion! I'll try and get it in there.
Steven thanks for the series. I've been stuck for a while on kiteloops on 1-2m above the water. i really wonder how to build up from small kiteloops on 1 to max 2m jumps to kiteloops on bigger jumps.
I'm glad you find the series helpfull!
Go out there with a 8 or 7m kite and slowly start jumping a little bit higher every time. That will build up your confidence and before you know it you're pulling loops at 5m
HI Steven! Thank you for your time fikming this videos and helping us out. I need your help. Can you please let me know the difference between the jump of this video at 2:32 and the jump on part one at 4:55? In this one you get pulled by the kite hard but on the part one video although you move the kite the same, it seems that there in minimum pull. What am i missing here? Thanks!!
Kite steering is very similar on both jumps. But on the first (lower) jump I ride in with less speed. On the second jump (higher) I ride in with a lot more speed.
Hope that helps!
Awesome thanks! Part 3?
You can find it here ua-cam.com/video/w2_s19Iabtc/v-deo.html
Very epic video from yesterday that blow my mind. I was @ the slufter and didnt made any progress on my loops hahaha, but i think you understand why.. 😅 waiting on 20knots.. 🤙
It was WILD! Was overpowered on my 8m, but had some good ones 🚀
Can imagine you didnt practise loops. Crossing fingers for 20 to 25 knots some day soon
@@stevenakkersdijk can imagine that, i saw you powered the kite before ur jump and after the jump u reached for the depower. 🤙bij mij was het al met de billen dicht geknepen met men 6m.. was smorgens met de 8m XR6 begonnen, maar na 1h heb ik die maar in de koffer gelegd 🥵. Dinsdag ziet er 20knopen achtig uit voorlopig 🤞anyway keep on flying dutchman ^^ 😃
Ja mooi, was inderdaad depoweren tussen de sprongen. Vaar eigenlijk altijd GTS en Nexus waarbij ik dat niet echt doe. Maar bij de XR werkt het echt heerlijk.
Dinsdag ziet er leuk uit!
Well, to give you some info on the progress. I had around 50 faceplants on my Nexus 11m. After I took my XR6 8m (because i wanted to take some risks) and had already problems to get my downloops done. It was only my second flight on the XR6. And it seems it turns a lot slower than my Nexus. Maybe I shouldnt have made my sensor bar more narrow, and keep it on the widest stand? Or its just the different kite? I felt like such a rookie on the XR 🙃
The XR is slower and most likely you'll have to get used to the timing.
I ride it on the wakestyle bar and this is completely fine, so bar width shouldn't make a difference
Thanks for the great video. It gave me a lot of motivation 😄 Will 10m new Gts be a good choice for 20-25 knots ??
Thanks! It all depends on your weight. If you're 60-75kg you would be better of on a 9m in those wind speeds. The 10m will be perfect for 75-90kg.
Hi Steven, dank voor deze uitleg, erg fijn! Ik heb best veel bar druk als ik de loop in zet en de bar volledig naar me toe trek. Is dat normaal? Vaar een F One Bandit 9m2 (niet de wave versie) voor mijn loops.
Hey Douwe, om eerlijk te zijn heb ik de bandit niet gevlogen, dus kan hier lastig een antwoord op geven. Ik zie wel vaak dat ze backstallen, dus het kan zijn dat je de kite iets moet depoweren voor een betere trim. Zie ua-cam.com/video/u73XkcpdkuU/v-deo.html
Great videos!! just Learning to loop now so will be a great help. One question which is a bit off topic (big air) You say about edging for longer and not stirring the kite too fast to get it above you, is this the same technique that you suggest for big air jumps?
Awesome man, i hope this video will help out for that.
It also counts for big air, but only up to a certain extend. The faster you steer your kite, the more power it will generate, but it can also pull you too much forward. So you need to find the sweet spot.
Edging is super important for high jumps. But the faster youre riding the shorter and more explosive your edging technique should become.
@@stevenakkersdijk thank you for your quick reply. Will bare that in mind and will give it a try.
It is gusting 50knots in the uk today so hopefully have a session later most probably over powered lol. Keep the videos coming!!
Brilliant video Steven! think I found something better thaen kitesurf College ;)
That's a big compliment! Thanks a lot. Glad you enjoy it so much 🙌
ALways Great very helpful video so was the first one too. A bit confused...At 2.37 timeframe starts the exersise and is the one of the previous 1st video pulling the bar at the apex landing and driving to opposite direction. Then re-explaining the exercise over the next frames at 3.09 you are using another loop more powerful pulling earlier the bar and heading to the same direction. Is there an inconsistency?? those two loops are very different, Thanx a lot
Hey Stelios, I'm happy you're finding the videos helpfull.
Both of the loops in this video are different from the loop in the first video. The height of the loop @2.37 isn't really great, but you can see that I initiate the loop before the apex. In the previous episode (part 1) i showed a loop where you initiate the loop at the apex or before.
But you're right, there is a big height difference in both which can be a little bit confusing.
Great Video as usual! I have learned so much from your SA tutorials in the past year! A question on kite configuration for pulling the first kite loops. It's a no-brainer to use a smaller kite for learning loops but I wish to know what the best depower setting should be. I assume having the kite fully powered so the steering lines have a more direct feel would be the best? Or?
Also, all the tutorials say 20+ knots but at my weight, 50-55kg, I am already on a 7 at 15kts. Does this influence the quality of the kiteloop?
Hey Aya, that's an excellent question.
I would recommend to ride your kite fully powered as you want the direct steering for a smaller loop. (just make sure the kite doesn't backstall after the loop)
As you are so light I would recommend to try it around 15-18 knots, any lighter than that and it will be hard for that 7m to catch you after the loop.
@@stevenakkersdijk thanks for your reply. 🙏🏻
Yesterday, I had exactly 15-18 knots riding my 7m. I did manage some powered kiteloops but they are still quite small. Maybe only 2-3m max. I know it should be safer to jump higher but I am still chicken to pull the loop on higher jumps. Any advice?
@@BerlinMauer keep on trying and slowly build up your confidence, you'll get to the bigger loops. 🚀
🤙🏼
I'm glad you're enjoying it, happy sending 🚀
Great video as always! Looking to change my quiver to Core. Only do twintip riding, Big Air and just made my first kiteloop after using this video (and a few crashes😅). Will the XR7 also work for kiteloops at this level? Or do I need to go for a Nexus?
Thanks for the view! I'm glad that you're enjoying the videos.
XR7 is an awesome choice! The kite is really good for loops as you can see in the latest release video. Improved a lot versus the XR6 on that department.
That being said I also really enjoy the Nexus for twintip riding, slightly faster but also less power on demand.
What kites are you riding now?
@@stevenakkersdijk Hi Steven, thanks for the response😊👍
I have 2020 duotone Evo’s now. I purchased them last summer because I took my kitesurfing certificate on Evo’s and seemed a easy choice to stick with them. But have progressed alot since then and they are getting worn out already😅🙈
Hi Steven, awesome video! wish I had seen this when I was learning to kiteloop. If I said to you I wanted to kiteloop in the lowest wind possible (70kg rider) and still be caught, what size kite would you recommend? A 11 or 12 is going to go higher but recover slower then say a 10, so just trying to figure out the sweet spot for when the wind is a little too soft for my 9m.
Hey Luke, great to hear that you enjoy the video! Friend of mine managed to loop the 11m with your weight, but it was always a bit of a question if it would catch him. Personally I really enjoy the 10m kites for light wind looping. (I actually learned the kiteloop board off with a 10m as it puts you down softer)
I can only speak for the 10m CORE Nexus and GTS as I haven’t looped any other kite brands in that size, but I’m certain most will be fine.
@@stevenakkersdijk thank you for the reply and I really appreciate the insight, makes a lot of sense! I will be looking for a 10m, hopefully try out a board off kite loop soon :)
Hi, thanks for the very useful tips. I have a very specific question. Is it posilbe to achieve a kiteloop with the kite catching you on a gts4 11m on 22 m lines in around 20-22 kn? I dont know if thats relevant but i weight 70 kg. Thanks for in advance 🤙
It's possible, but you'll often be on the edge. Would give a good rider a 50-50 success rate on that kite with that weight.
Good tips! I made a video of my first kiteloops with the tips from your first vid🚀🤙
Nice! They're looking good man.
Just remember to keep that bar all the way down until the kite made a full loop.
Is that Workum by the way?
@@stevenakkersdijk thanks for the tip🤙 it is on workum, it is a nice spot to learn on little kickers and on flat water so thats why i kite there.
Workum is awesome. Used to be my homespot for a really long time!
5:24 can you please explain what do you exactly mean about "if you land with the right foot in front, downloop to the left", do you mean pull left hand down (right forward) to initiate loop? And if landing with left foot in front do opposite? If I'm right on video at 5:33 min you are landing left foot forward but at the same time left hand down. So I confused 😅 sorry I'm just the doing my first steps to kite loops, so maybe my question is very naive.
Want to say huge thanks for all your videos. They are very helpful I watch them always on my way to kite spot 👍 very good tips and ability to do screenshot with tips is just wonderful 👍
At 5:33 I land with the left foot forward and downloop the kite with my right hand. You always want to do opposites for a stable landing.
Best of luck and have fun out there!
Thanks for your answer. Am I right that if I land with the left foot forward I initiate loop wit the right hand down and if I land with the right foot forward - looping with the left hand down. Is it correct?
Looking forward to number! Have you got any recommendations on how to jump properly in choppy conditions? Troubles me a lot haha
Upcoming Thursday, soo not too much longer left.
Good take offs in choppy conditions are often hard. It depends on how big the chop is, but if there is a little bit of space between the waves I always try to use the chop as a kicker.
@@stevenakkersdijk okay thanks for the help :)
So what is the difference between this kite loop and jump transition with the loop out from the previous video?
In this kiteloop you start pulling the loop just before you hit the apex of your jump. In the previous episode I taught how to loop the kite after the apex of the jump. The later you loop, the less pull the kite will generate.
@@stevenakkersdijk thanks! got it.
How high of a jump should you be doing for this? What height range do you consider the “death zone” for kite looping?
Your first loop only need to be something like 2-4 meter high. After that it really depends on the kite size and kite type how high you need to jump in order for the kite to catch you again.
These are just estimtates on how high you need to go in order to perform a downloop:
10m Kite: 6m high
9m kite: 5m high
8m kite 4m high
Does that answer your question or did you mean something else with "death zone"
@@stevenakkersdijk
Possibly.
What I am referring to is the powered back handed kite loop while rising after a jump. When I hear dowloop, I think of a landing loop or heli loop.
I have seen videos (and experienced) a death zone where, if you pull the loop between 3-7 meters, you are going high enough to hurt yourself on landing but not high enough for the kite to catch you.
Many people suggest pulling a powered kite loop below 3M and then skipping to pulling a loop at 7+M.
So to summarize, what I am asking is: how high of jumps should we be pulling our aerial powered loops at when learning them and is there a jump height that we should avoid doing them at? Or do you suggest we keep trying to go higher and higher, one meter at a time until you get to 10m loops.
Thanks for the response!
Listening in to this now. :)
@@timothygroten4193 When Steven gave you an estimate of the minimum height to safely perform a downloop depending on on the kite size, of course he meant after a powered kiteloop: so that answers your question! No need to go over 7m to send those powered loops and recover safely; I have also heard that piece of advice but I think it's kind of rubbish, partially because everyone (including me) thinks they are pulling 10m kiteloops when in fact they are barely over the 5-meter mark... The yank from the loops makes them impressive but then one sees themselves on video and gets pulled back to reality hah :)
With a 7m² or 8m² kite and good sheeting-out after the loop you're good to send kiteloops starting from as low as 3-4m and have your kite catch you for a nice downloop. I sent my first kiteloops late backroll from that height approximately with a 7m² kite and landed them without bending the knees. Hope this helps!
@@Clemused interesting advice. That does help, thanks!
I’m curious what Steven’s input will be.
If i'm riding with righ foot, then i will kiteloop on the left. So if i land on my right foot, i have to loop it again on the left??
If you want a stable landing that is recommended yes.
@@stevenakkersdijk ok, but why do u call downloop then
@@prcs523 For me a kiteloop is a loop that you pull on the way up. A kiteloop is pulled by pulling on your back hand.
When you pull a loop on the way up, but you pull the loop with your front hand, it's a contraloop.
Pulling a loop on the way down to either side is what I call a downloop. (some also call it heliloop)
Does that explanation help?
@@stevenakkersdijk Yes sir thanks! I used to think Just back Hand kitelooop, front Hand downloop! By the way great video Hope to try It soon
Really enjoying your tutorials! Have heard that we should not try kite loops when jumping between 1.5 and 7 meters high. Can u comment on thus please. Jo
I'm Glad you're enjoying them. I just wrote this comment for someone else as you wrote this. So I've just copy pasted.
Let me know if this answers your questions.
With older kites (C-kites) there used to be a zone where the kite will for sure not catch you after a kiteloop. So you would be better off going above a certain height or sticking lower to the water to save your knees.
Kites have come a long way from back then though. So when you're riding a 8m or smaller you can have soft landings on pretty much all heights after a kiteloop.
With a 9m or bigger there will be a certain height (estimates are in my first reply) you want to jump above, otherwise the kite won't really catch you. This height is influenced a lot by your vertical (good) or horizontal (bad) take off.
If you want to learn kiteloops where the kite catches you on the downloop your best option is going on an 8m kite and try to jump 1m higher every single jump.
Thx! Yes makes sense! I have not seen your 1st reply - do i aim for min 2 meters with a 10 sqm kite?
Your first loop only need to be something like 2-4 meter high. After that it really depends on the kite size and kite type how high you need to jump in order for the kite to catch you again.
These are just estimtates on how high you need to go in order to perform a downloop:
10m Kite: 6m high
9m kite: 5m high
8m kite 4m high
There you go 😉 So yes, 2m high with a 10sqm kite will work perfectly, wouldn't go much lower.
But I really appreciate what u mean with a good and a bad jump....great point. A future video might discuss how to best achieve the balance of control and speed that u mention to achieve an optimal jump.... from height and best prerequisite kite position to throw a negaloop .....or is this too complicated on a video?? (Again - great videos!)
In the last video I will talk more about timing, line length and all the details. So comments/questions like this really help. I'll try and get it in without making the video too complicated 😉
is the chosen site for the downloop meaningless?
The downloop side depends on your preference of landing left or right foot forward.
Left foot forward downloop right
Right foot forward downloop left
😉
@@stevenakkersdijk thanks.
But the loop is also done right with my left foot forward?
Yes, also works perfect
what the (*&# does it mean to sheet the bar out "for a third"???
Sheet out is to push the bar out or forward. So "sheet the bar out for a third" means to push the bar up for 1/3 of the total range.
So tutorial
Oh yeah