Songque looked fine during v2 idk what their intention was nerfing her. Hoyo really likes going in circles when it comes to changing things as if they are lost. Unless they intend Vita to be 7.7 valk that replaces someone in her current team that fixes something in her. Oh well, I'll probably see how she would be in live.
I wanna hope she gets buffed in v4 but also feel like this might be another sena + thelema situation, next patch valk will be supported by songque and support songque :copium:
can we get a low/no caveats physical valk at s0, im tired of all the physical s rank valk that have some goofy ahh stuff that make them icky to play :(
I agree, most physical DPS valks are just awful. Only good ones were PE, HoRb and Susannah, she is really good if you can get that extra Aladdin set but on her own she's good with budget set. The rest are just bad because they have their own problems, Hare has CRIT Problems that need HoRb, HoS Brick needs Ranks for her to be optimal if not just stick with HoRb DPS.
not me in the first clip thinking they removed the lanterns when she summons her fish 😭 speaking of lanterns…i hope v3 songque can still work without her
Last time i see songque support for Thelema somewhere and she casually hit 800k with the first hit of charged atk, i know she will surely get nerfed. But i didn't think they just nerf the shit out of her that much 🌚
They actually nerfed her. Okay then I'm going all out on Lantern since I got her super early from discount. This is actually really bad because she's heavily dependent on Astral Ring Valks, using P1 Supports won't be really optimal and can actually be worse than using Jedi Griseo. Not only that, her damage also falls off even with Astral Ring Valks. For Abyss coverage, her only main coverage is Type Counter Meteoroid Epernay as her score is already 740+ at S0 RL. As Jedi Griseo can brute force Physical Alien Guard and 7.6 actually gives more bosses for Sena and Lantern. To make matters worse, Vita is heavily teased in 7.6 and there's no other contender for 7.6 other than Vita and Adult Theresa from Part 1 Finale, Adult Theresa is also very unlikely since she's not story relevant yet (unless they went Captainverse route) so high chance Vita is playable. Ajita got "wholesome" treatment and no news for APHO 3 so we're not getting a valk from those 3. And the spending event in 7.6 is a mini one making it more like a bait patch. Only good one about Songque is her feet though, but who cares about her feet when we're getting a mommy next version? At least I'm not and I'm also a SU simp.
Looks like an entire paragraph to cope yourself out skipping her 🤭 and the good thing about Songque is... Songque, not her feet. Y'all just weird. People love Songque because she's already one of the best ever from HI3rd. And chapter 3 and 4 will cement her further as one of the best.
@@tortelliniduck she might be a good support for Vita but P2 Valks got reruns pretty fast, and you can use other Valks like Coralie. For me, if a DPS Valk in their own weather like Physical or Shieldbreak is bad, then it's not worth for me who is F2P and aiming for RL retention purposes as you can still retain with Old Meta. I retain Type Kasumi and Stellar RPC with HoHE and Fire Mobius with Sirin just fine. P2 Gacha is also much cheaper to do, if I change my mind I can still pull for her and her rerun is very common. The only Valk that has also somewhat average DPS due to outdated support I pull is HoRb, but that's an exception because I pull her for her support capabilities. Edit : You also needs Serapeum because her CRIT Rate is bad.
I wanna take you at your word as a GoB enjoyer and floaty characters in general. But I’d rather her most of her kit be more accessible so that the money wall really just helps with more dmg/faster ramp times. I’d rather not have to delay her time on screen. 😅😂
no cause im so upset now :( i was like so excited for songque and have been saving since the end of thelema banner. i really hope they buff her again. even if she sucks ill probably get her and use her with my HORB just cause i can
honestly now i'm sad cuz I've actually been saving as advised for songque because I just started at the end of thelema patch, making me a new player(i'm an old player just stopped because my phone couldn't take honkai anymore and then made a new acc when I got a new phone to play again). So now i'm conflicted, should I pull for her next patch still or wait for vita? My only strong valks are coralie and helia and coralie is by far stronger, my part 1 valks are just idk(bke, vd, si, and fr are my only useful p1 valks) I'm level 72 as I'm writing this so which is the better decision. Thanks
Vita news should be out before/as 7.5 ends. New valk banners last for a few weeks, so you have ample time to decide when new patch hits. Don't worry, just continue saving ☺️👌
Id love to say this means im skipping songque but aint no way S 0/4 MPE is taking me through anymore RL physical weather she needs to rest, seriously tho as an f2p with Sena+Thelema is there any use in going for serapuem ontop of Que and her weapon? It does seem like Que can support in future i guess?
Nah just grab character and weapon. Stigs can be slowly crafted or easily gotten from the weapon supply. AstralOp is just icing on the cake. Yes, Que might be a potential support in the future.
CN complains when HoFin Kiana did the signature HoV pose but they're quiet when songque does that in her SO combo attack.... Will never ever forgive the chinese.
@@mimimitsu hahahah nice one, but if im not mistaken hare got fixed with 100% CRIT on her passive cuz ppl are mad about it 🤣 i hope this case happen to SQ as well it's just funny that u can't crit unless have the astral op that's just straight up cash grab valks 🤣🤣🤣
@@mimimitsu i like to visualize the scales of characters. I do it for every game, and HI3rd is the only hoyo game that actually show us the actual height of characters (except for Fischl). I just find it interesting, like for example, you know Mobius is cheating on her profile because she put her adult form height (173cm) despite being much smaller than that. And Sushang and Seele are almost the same height.
Bro why would theh nerf the "herrscher lvl" thet much? I dodnt thbk it was that bad until I read the description. I would be okay with skipping her if she wasnt a physical support and potentially have a broken skill that can benefit her. The only eeason i can think of them nerfing her is when they start releasing other physical dps thats (bio, mech, psychic) they're going to shine in their respective weathers and Songque can't braindead brute-force them wirh high scores like that
Yeah, your final point makes sense. I can't speak for 12S teams, but for S0 (with only 1 divine key) I don't find Songque to be able to steal weathers from other physical valks as of now.
Day 218... Feet🥵 1. LoL (League of Lesbian) team, approved 🥵😅 2. Songcock is either green or yellow... She must be a limon🍋. But is she an evil limon? We will never know... "Are you ticklish" is such a loaded question. İf you answer no, they will test it, if you answer yes, they will test it. There are no between. Only suffering future of tickles and tickles. Anyway Mimi, are you ticklish🥰?
Day 715742753 thinking about feet 🥵 1. WoW (We offer Whooping), thanks for the approval! 2. Bring her near a test subject. Their response will determine whether she is evil or not... N- never gonna give you the answer 😄
The only other Phys valks I have are Miss Pink Elf and Yatta. Not a meta player by any stretch (never went past Agony 3), just brute forcing everything with original trio. Skip?
rip songque JDS 2024-2024 thank you for the update HI3 Captain meemee meetsu
you're welcome cay
as if having Hare's crit rate wasn't bad enough
lmfaooo she hits like an SP valk outside of outburst
OMG I forgot how bad she was without HoRb 💀
@@mimimitsu your brain's self-preservation mechanism is doing a great job erasing trauma like that
Songque looked fine during v2 idk what their intention was nerfing her. Hoyo really likes going in circles when it comes to changing things as if they are lost. Unless they intend Vita to be 7.7 valk that replaces someone in her current team that fixes something in her.
Oh well, I'll probably see how she would be in live.
I really hope they re-buff her normal form's damage in live 🙏
Based on the trend, Songque will be physical support for a 7.7 new physical dps.
@@evexcefgame tbh yeah likely, the fact that she has locked skills makes it look like she may become a second enabler like Sena on AR teams
@@mimimitsu they buffed smth else on her
@@simpoftunalitywhat is it
My hype for songque lasted 5 whole days. RIP
:notlikethis:
I wanna hope she gets buffed in v4 but also feel like this might be another sena + thelema situation, next patch valk will be supported by songque and support songque :copium:
(bitter laughter)
I'm actually hoping that Songque's v2 dmg will come back because my crystals will only be able to afford her. I have to skip the 7.7 Valk lmao
can we get a low/no caveats physical valk at s0, im tired of all the physical s rank valk that have some goofy ahh stuff that make them icky to play :(
Ikr. But from the sales standpoint dividing a character's strength into several parts is more valuable :(
I agree, most physical DPS valks are just awful. Only good ones were PE, HoRb and Susannah, she is really good if you can get that extra Aladdin set but on her own she's good with budget set. The rest are just bad because they have their own problems, Hare has CRIT Problems that need HoRb, HoS Brick needs Ranks for her to be optimal if not just stick with HoRb DPS.
Dmn. This made Sera a must for faster AR regen so she can enter stellar outburst form faster. I can see what they're thinking but whyyyy
(insert Mr. Krabs here)
But hey, at least the nerfs is compensated with the feet detail buff right...?
Right (dons chad face).
not me in the first clip thinking they removed the lanterns when she summons her fish 😭
speaking of lanterns…i hope v3 songque can still work without her
Hahaha. She obviously can, just ugh damage.
Last time i see songque support for Thelema somewhere and she casually hit 800k with the first hit of charged atk, i know she will surely get nerfed. But i didn't think they just nerf the shit out of her that much 🌚
It's like waving a treat at your starving pet and retracting your arm when it gets close. Hoyo pls buff before the game goes live 🙏
at least they buff the feet
Dont 😭
and ult damage in outburst, you win some you lose... a lot.
Me, a f2p without Thelema because she scammed me but with S2 Lantern: it's fine
It balanced out :imfine:
they probly nerfed her to the ground cuz 7.7 uwu valk but also mystery support skill locked maybe thats where she will shine
Hopefully
Nerfed 😭😔
😭😭💀
@@mimimitsu OMG
a little concerned on the thumbnail but you do you mimi !!! haha !!! XD
A wise man once said, "Be F2P". I heeded his words, but might have gotten the letter F wrong.
@@mimimitsu got lost in translation 😞
I feel like the nerf is not aiming at new valk release but force you to run thelama and lantern with her.
Nah you can still run other teams.
More like baiting you to pull Serapeum to be honest.
They actually nerfed her. Okay then I'm going all out on Lantern since I got her super early from discount. This is actually really bad because she's heavily dependent on Astral Ring Valks, using P1 Supports won't be really optimal and can actually be worse than using Jedi Griseo. Not only that, her damage also falls off even with Astral Ring Valks. For Abyss coverage, her only main coverage is Type Counter Meteoroid Epernay as her score is already 740+ at S0 RL. As Jedi Griseo can brute force Physical Alien Guard and 7.6 actually gives more bosses for Sena and Lantern. To make matters worse, Vita is heavily teased in 7.6 and there's no other contender for 7.6 other than Vita and Adult Theresa from Part 1 Finale, Adult Theresa is also very unlikely since she's not story relevant yet (unless they went Captainverse route) so high chance Vita is playable. Ajita got "wholesome" treatment and no news for APHO 3 so we're not getting a valk from those 3. And the spending event in 7.6 is a mini one making it more like a bait patch. Only good one about Songque is her feet though, but who cares about her feet when we're getting a mommy next version? At least I'm not and I'm also a SU simp.
Good luck on her weapon pulls 🙏
they did her badly... sadge
Songue is going to be the Sensdina of physical teams (That's what I believe)
Looks like an entire paragraph to cope yourself out skipping her 🤭 and the good thing about Songque is... Songque, not her feet. Y'all just weird. People love Songque because she's already one of the best ever from HI3rd. And chapter 3 and 4 will cement her further as one of the best.
@@tortelliniduck she might be a good support for Vita but P2 Valks got reruns pretty fast, and you can use other Valks like Coralie. For me, if a DPS Valk in their own weather like Physical or Shieldbreak is bad, then it's not worth for me who is F2P and aiming for RL retention purposes as you can still retain with Old Meta. I retain Type Kasumi and Stellar RPC with HoHE and Fire Mobius with Sirin just fine. P2 Gacha is also much cheaper to do, if I change my mind I can still pull for her and her rerun is very common. The only Valk that has also somewhat average DPS due to outdated support I pull is HoRb, but that's an exception because I pull her for her support capabilities.
Edit : You also needs Serapeum because her CRIT Rate is bad.
I hope her issues will be fixed before release- Still gonna pull for our Little Que though
🙏 gl on your pulls
8:00 I know this is a weird question to ask, but I don’t remember her boba being that big.💀
She got a nerf and a buff.💀
🤨🤨
@@mimimitsu ITS FOR SCIENCE AND KNOWING IF HOYO IS WILLING TO CHANGE PROPORTIONS IN HI3 I SWEAR!
No love for physical valks. This is sad.
Hoyo might not love them, but we players will shower them with ♥🥰
Not even playing the game anymore, but had to click, like and comment the video for the thumbnail
Thanks 😊
Doesn't even help that most of 7.6's new weather is copeable with alternative option 🗿
Sena and Bigseo should be much worse off, right? ☺️
@@mimimitsu :SenadinaStare: Maybe
It's just brute force, she shines in stardust. Ofc hoyoverse is going to create characters to feel in the niche while making use of her support role.
@@cakegood Garbage stays garbage
Welp, here I was going to all in because I enjoyed what I saw and now I’m a bit disheartened. Oh well maybe next time hoyo.
She's still fun :)
I wanna take you at your word as a GoB enjoyer and floaty characters in general. But I’d rather her most of her kit be more accessible so that the money wall really just helps with more dmg/faster ramp times. I’d rather not have to delay her time on screen. 😅😂
no cause im so upset now :( i was like so excited for songque and have been saving since the end of thelema banner. i really hope they buff her again. even if she sucks ill probably get her and use her with my HORB just cause i can
they did buff her
Sonque literally broke the game 0:07
Nah that's just Lantern doing her routine noclipping.
honestly now i'm sad cuz I've actually been saving as advised for songque because I just started at the end of thelema patch, making me a new player(i'm an old player just stopped because my phone couldn't take honkai anymore and then made a new acc when I got a new phone to play again). So now i'm conflicted, should I pull for her next patch still or wait for vita? My only strong valks are coralie and helia and coralie is by far stronger, my part 1 valks are just idk(bke, vd, si, and fr are my only useful p1 valks) I'm level 72 as I'm writing this so which is the better decision. Thanks
I forgot I currently have almost 30k as I am writing this maybe more soon, I just want help if whether I should pull for her or not
Vita news should be out before/as 7.5 ends. New valk banners last for a few weeks, so you have ample time to decide when new patch hits. Don't worry, just continue saving ☺️👌
@@mimimitsu omg thank youu sm!!!I guess I'll still think about it but this really helped!! Thank you again
Nerf? What nerf?
All I see are the important details
Player of culture🍷
Pls cn community I beg of you pls complain abt it like u guys did with Kiana pose🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿(I’ll never forgive them for that)
I doubt they'll do anything since her overall damage is still decent. Ugh, Kiana pose was so stupid 🙄
Dw Mimi, I'll use my F2P xtals on Songque in your stead 😎👍
Never forget that "nerf" is just "fren" backwards.
You're not helping me 🙄🙄
I didn't know. I always thought it was fern 🥬
I read the description and *DAMN,* that's really not good.
Really hope they buff her quickly. *I'm skipping Lantern for the Granny.* 🙏
They're all grannies 😂
@@mimimitsu LMAO true 🤣
Id love to say this means im skipping songque but aint no way S 0/4 MPE is taking me through anymore RL physical weather she needs to rest, seriously tho as an f2p with Sena+Thelema is there any use in going for serapuem ontop of Que and her weapon? It does seem like Que can support in future i guess?
Nah just grab character and weapon. Stigs can be slowly crafted or easily gotten from the weapon supply. AstralOp is just icing on the cake. Yes, Que might be a potential support in the future.
@@mimimitsu Thanks, I thought so, I can save my low pity for a future astral op then, Time to organise a funeral for MPE
Guess I’ll wait to see Vita instead of going all in right away 😔
🙏
CN complains when HoFin Kiana did the signature HoV pose but they're quiet when songque does that in her SO combo attack.... Will never ever forgive the chinese.
Maybe the og complainers quit the game? Also, please don't start a war.
what a weird thing to say
what a weird thing to say
Ahh another new ice valk i see 😂
Just like hare meme back then before horb 😅😅
"Cool" character innit?
@@mimimitsu hahahah nice one, but if im not mistaken hare got fixed with 100% CRIT on her passive cuz ppl are mad about it 🤣 i hope this case happen to SQ as well it's just funny that u can't crit unless have the astral op that's just straight up cash grab valks 🤣🤣🤣
Can you check out her profile? How tall is Songque??
🤨what do you need this information for lol? But anyway, that information isn't released yet :(
@@mimimitsu yknow it's awkward when your girlfriend is taller than you.. The same value applies in imaginary girlfriend from gacha games.
@@mimimitsu i like to visualize the scales of characters. I do it for every game, and HI3rd is the only hoyo game that actually show us the actual height of characters (except for Fischl).
I just find it interesting, like for example, you know Mobius is cheating on her profile because she put her adult form height (173cm) despite being much smaller than that. And Sushang and Seele are almost the same height.
Lmao. I shall not judge whether your girlfriend is imaginary or not.
Oh, cool hobby. Speaking of cheating, have you seen Sakura's height(s)?
@@mimimitsu yeah they include her “ears” as part of her height 😭😭
This game doesn't want us to have good things 😢
People tend to remember the bad things
Wait, how could Songque take off her socks MULTIPLE TIMES ??? I thought she can only take them off once a match?
There's a skill toggle lol
is she also good with HoRb and prome for f2p? bcs astral character i only have is thelema... and still no phy elf..
Apparently in non-Astral Ring teams, her combo attacks, ultimate proc damage and ult cooldown get buffed. It might be better than before?
Is there a reason why In some rotations you use lanterns ultimate and others not?
I only used them in situations where I needed some extra damage from the ult.
@@mimimitsu ah ok so it doesnt provide any buffs its just for more damage?
@@timiareoye4437 yep.
peak
🦶
a small price to pay for feet
wallet: surely you jest
@@mimimitsu there is no jest in that victory animation
Bro why would theh nerf the "herrscher lvl" thet much? I dodnt thbk it was that bad until I read the description.
I would be okay with skipping her if she wasnt a physical support and potentially have a broken skill that can benefit her.
The only eeason i can think of them nerfing her is when they start releasing other physical dps thats (bio, mech, psychic) they're going to shine in their respective weathers and Songque can't braindead brute-force them wirh high scores like that
Yeah, your final point makes sense. I can't speak for 12S teams, but for S0 (with only 1 divine key) I don't find Songque to be able to steal weathers from other physical valks as of now.
Day 218... Feet🥵
1. LoL (League of Lesbian) team, approved 🥵😅
2. Songcock is either green or yellow... She must be a limon🍋. But is she an evil limon? We will never know...
"Are you ticklish" is such a loaded question. İf you answer no, they will test it, if you answer yes, they will test it. There are no between. Only suffering future of tickles and tickles. Anyway Mimi, are you ticklish🥰?
Day 715742753 thinking about feet 🥵
1. WoW (We offer Whooping), thanks for the approval!
2. Bring her near a test subject. Their response will determine whether she is evil or not...
N- never gonna give you the answer 😄
The only other Phys valks I have are Miss Pink Elf and Yatta. Not a meta player by any stretch (never went past Agony 3), just brute forcing everything with original trio. Skip?
Yeah, skip. Anything goes in A3.
@@mimimitsu 07
Who is the teased fan favorite character?
Kenmaster!
Liu Wei
Vita
is this Nirvana? It seem the boss is pretty hard. whether they nerfed Songque or they buff the Boss.
RL, 495D. These bosses are not the ones designed for her, so they might seem hard to beat.
Hoyo's fans need to learn how to protest from CRK fandom
It won't work in Hoyo's home country 😔
WHY THE NERFF 💔
❤🩹
嗯，角色數值削弱了，但我未看到角色脚部模型有加强？
有啊，雀雀在貫金神光狀態時脚部模型有所加強。我也看不出 🤣 結算看不出，但 1:15 分支攻擊時可以看到她脚步動作比較有深度、搖地比v2自然。
But what nerf did she receive? damage?
Normal form damage got nerfed, outburst ult damage got buffed a lot. Details in Marisa's notes here: rentry.co/songgyatt
Kek nerf
No kek :(
she wasnt even all that busted before
she was, to an extent
Hoyo is generally bad at balancing and making physical characters in any of their games 🥲
Bahaha why is this so true 😂