That Kay looks cool when it's being played. Looks like it survived a housefire! New phrase for me "I took a bath on it". presumably it means you were under water on it? Like lost money? Idioms man... Always something new!
@@hydorah "Took a bath on it" is a pretty ancient phrase. I believe it was originally "took a bath in red ink". In the old days of paper ledger books it was common to write profits in black ink and losses in red ink.
You’re like the Bob Ross of guitar repair...I find your videos relaxing, even when you get pissed with the work or a moron who did bad work before you got it. You and Dave are my two favorite repair luthiers...but he’s more like Joe Walsh. Thanks for the videos.
I've seen a lot of your repairs, but for some reason this crack going through the body of the Gibson affected me in more of a visceral gut punch way than others (major repairs all...) Something about such an insidious crack looking like the whole top would flake off, like someone knapping obsidian... - thanks again for the expertise and calm walkthrough of these repairs
Another Sunday morning vastly improved by your craftsmanship. I go off on a snowy day in the UK to fit a humbucker and a P90 to a Squier Mustang. You are an inspiration to the ham handed like myself...
Hey now... I have a Okay 12 string I bought in 1977 sounded beautiful then, still sounds beautiful today. love it!! :) Fantastic repair! And also sounds beautiful!!
I applaud you for your patience. I've taken a 'bath" on a few jobs, but in the long run with other repair jobs I've made up for it. It's great to see someone undertake a job like this and come out smelling like a rose. The only one problem I've found in doing these "bath" jobs is that word gets around, and pretty soon you have people in bringing instruments that would serve better in the fireplace, but they want you to make them playable, and are disappointed when you say you can't help them. Sorry, but I really don't do this for my health. And the ones who come in and expect to pay $25 for a complete re-fret, and then say you need the experience. I usually tell them to go to UA-cam and they can see how easy it is to DIY. I never see them again, or if I do, they say they can see why I charge what I do for my work. People think repairing stringed and fretted musical instruments is just a "hobby thing", and not a serious occupation.
I know it was not really worth the time, but I liked the sound of the Kay. It has a vintage vibe to it and looks like its endlessly traveled the country via railroad cars.
I once waited 3 years for a '60s Greco 12 string that had collapsed at the saddle all the x-bracing popped underneath, but my luthier, like you is a patient man and when I receive that 12-string back it played like a heavenly harp patience is the key to this business and you sir definitely have it and do excellent work and I enjoy watching your videos,
I have the same issue with screws when restoring melodeons. I find old printers and take them apart, saving all of the screws. They're full of useful, small, and obscure sizes.
Oh man, as Chet Atkins said, "some guitars just need to be disposed of." I bow to your respect as to the customer's misguided desires. Value is an invented concept within the human heart.
Mr. Ted left out the part where he had to remove (and replace) the pick guard so his custom church-pew-bridge-saddle-slotting-guide would lay flatt(ish). This level of repair, and charity, amazes me. It shows the fine character, as well as the skill and experience of Mr. Ted, who is also referred to as "Canadian Jesus". As a side note, a left-handed drill bit (yes, it is a thing) will easily remove a small, stripped out Phillips screw, without using an extractor.
I share your passion for restoration, and for me it's much more of a trained hobby- as I don't own a shop. GREAT JOB on the 12! I could hear the life that you resurrected back over my phone! Quite well done!
I had the last version of the ES-135. It had a mahogany center block; humbucking pickups; a tune-o-matic and stop tail; and it had a control cavity access on the back. I now own a 1993 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion III, which is a slightly downsized 135, but has fingerboard binding, and a "fingers" trapeze tailpiece.
One of the things that sets you apart Ted is, good or bad, you just won't do a crap job - even if you lose money. I hope he's a hell of a customer! Thanks for the vid.
@@kfossa344 He said he took a loss in this case and others. Also, I said cash not pennies. I have had a lot of my guitars refretted and worked on so I know the cost. I guess you missed my point.
See, this is why you need a patreon. People here love seeing un-economical repairs like that Kay, and as you almost always do some extra touch-ups and improvements out of your own pocket, it seems only fair that we can chip in for the privilege of watching you go above and beyond :)
I must say: ES 135s are sleepers rock n roll machines. I think the (not that) thinking body's with the p-90s give these guitar some really cool overdrive tones
I am lucky enough to have an ES135. They are amazing. I am a huge P100 fan. The neck just feels awesome. It plays like a short scale (es125), but they have that hollow body vibe.
I love watching you work because you always take your time and do it right, it would be easy to write off the Kay and be more sloppy and say "screw it, the factory didn't get the scale length right, I'll leave the saddle the way it is cuz it's not worth it" but you go through and do it anyways. Mad respect. I used to work on cars and would get into the same kind of situations, you want to do something for somebody's old beater that they only want to spend $400 on, so you think you're just going to do quick and easy and then you run into so many little issues that just eat up your time and add frustration.
Really appreciate you showing so much love for an old beater 12 string like that Kay and turning it from firewood into a playable guitar again. It might be cheap and badly made, but when you played it at the end it sounded pretty darn nice. These are the kind of guitars that so many of the great (and not so great like me) musicians in the world started out on and they have their place in history along with the great instruments of the past.
You've got greats skills, and combined with you're pragmatism, those guitars are just goin' to get fixed. I hope the owner of the the Kay sees this video and compensates you accordingly. That guitar has got that wonderful old time tone. Lead belly was the perfect music to play on it. Your tenacity alone made me subscribe! Thanks
Picksalot. I'm serious -- this could be the very same old Kay guitar I nearly tossed in a dumpster in 1966.... Only paid $ 60 for it. Instead, I gave it to a "frenemy" to play. We both thought Leadbelly's tunes would work well on that contraption. Where he took it, I'll never know. Bob
If any of Ted's uploads demonstrate his skill and professionalism it's this one. Given a guitar from the low end of the spectrum that looks fit for little other than hanging on the wall as a curiosity, and even working within a budget, he goes out of his way to produce an eminently playable instrument. Actually, that unintentionally mottled soundboard makes it look somehow more authentically vintage and it certainly suits the old-style jangle.
Gibson first started using balsa in the Chet Atkins signature electrics - I had a Tennessean that sounded amazing and was definitely lighter than an ES-335. I suspect they decided to try it on other electrics.
I was very pleasantly surprised at the sound of the Gibson semi. It was harmonically very rich. Jangly but deeper. You're going to have to find a way to avoid taking a bath on those Kay type jobs. It's okay if it's for your friend's wedding and the shop is slow and the guitar is kinda worth it, but... nah. Estimates with dire warnings, not quotes; straight time and materials. You risk devaluing your service and being taken advantage of. The cost risk should always be the guitar owner's, not your business's -- as long as you're up front about the very high probability of complications. But keep up the great work, man. 😎
Reminds me of a time I agreed to add an electrical point for a widow in our church. Figured it couldn't take longer than 2 or 3 hours. The whole day later and having to rent extra power tools to drill through the outer wall I just sort of gave up and did it for the fun
I was going to recommend the oscillating multitool, when you mentioned it. I own a fein multimaster. It is not a precision instrument, but it allows you to make certain cuts you would not be able to without it. Saved my butt a bunch of times. I recommend getting the Starlock Plus type, because it makes changing out the saws a lot easier. Thanks for the great video!
You did a miracle on that 12 string guitar .. and saying that finding the right position for the string allignment is a sort of art and science made my day... i build cigar box guitars as my hobby and finding the right action height and string position make me thinking of beeing dumb.. but now i know that it can be a little bit tricky .. so i know why sometimes i struggle into doing that ..
That 12-string reminds me of one I once had. No name, or forgotten, probably all "mahogany", sounded just like this one. All jangle, no balls. The opposite of the Leo Kottke tone. That really was a lot of work for... that.
Hi friend. Been binging and really enjoying your videos. A little nugget for you: Some valve lapping compound on the tip of your screwdriver can go a long way toward getting out damaged screws and prevent camming out of really stubborn ones that aren't stripped yet. Thanks so much for sharing your work. 😊
"The action's a little high" Oh you got a LOL out of me on that one. Mr Woodford
There are African tribes that could limbo under those strings
That Kay looks cool when it's being played. Looks like it survived a housefire! New phrase for me "I took a bath on it". presumably it means you were under water on it? Like lost money? Idioms man... Always something new!
perfect slide guitar setup (lmao)
@@TeleCustom72 Ha! That's what folks selling guitars say when the neck is so bowed you could use the guitar on an archery range.
@@hydorah "Took a bath on it" is a pretty ancient phrase. I believe it was originally "took a bath in red ink". In the old days of paper ledger books it was common to write profits in black ink and losses in red ink.
You are a brave, brave man to have taken on that 12-string. Definitely an act of charity that will buy you less Purgatory time.
It's a shame that UA-cam revenue doesn't help make gnarly repairs like this more economically feasible.
That seems like the kind of work one regrets taking on. At least he could share it with us and have fun
Agreed. He turned garbage into treasure. That's definitely worth some spiritual credit in my humble opinion.
That twelve string has a beautiful resonant sound.
I actually think the 12 string sounded quite nice at the end.
The pickups on that Gibson really are unique sounding. That was a lot brighter than I expected.
A 25 minute video that's posted 2 minutes ago and has 15 likes by people who haven't watched it. That's the power of Ted Woodford. Amazing.
I always like the videos on this channel before I watched them. Because then I get so addicted to watching that I forget to like it.
@@violentsense ....me too!
I bet that 12 string has never sounded, that good, until 2021...
Brilliant job on the ES 135
You’re like the Bob Ross of guitar repair...I find your videos relaxing, even when you get pissed with the work or a moron who did bad work before you got it. You and Dave are my two favorite repair luthiers...but he’s more like Joe Walsh. Thanks for the videos.
It was nice to see the Gibson fix go as planned.
The 135 sounds great and the Kay is another "SAVE". Nice work man.
I've seen a lot of your repairs, but for some reason this crack going through the body of the Gibson affected me in more of a visceral gut punch way than others (major repairs all...) Something about such an insidious crack looking like the whole top would flake off, like someone knapping obsidian... - thanks again for the expertise and calm walkthrough of these repairs
That ES-125 repair is superb!
At a loss for words here; thanks for another great and inspiring video.
That was a labour of love. Great work as ever Ted
Worth every second of work for that 12 string guitar. Sounds great
Another Sunday morning vastly improved by your craftsmanship. I go off on a snowy day in the UK to fit a humbucker and a P90 to a Squier Mustang. You are an inspiration to the ham handed like myself...
Always both informative and entertaining.
Excellent craftmanship sir!
Hey now... I have a Okay 12 string I bought in 1977 sounded beautiful then, still sounds beautiful today. love it!! :)
Fantastic repair! And also sounds beautiful!!
“There’s a bit of a bulge” T.Woodford 2021
OwO
Yes in my underpants lol
Dr Death. And Ted fought the "Battle of the Bulge" in 2021.
I applaud you for your patience. I've taken a 'bath" on a few jobs, but in the long run with other repair jobs I've made up for it. It's great to see someone undertake a job like this and come out smelling like a rose. The only one problem I've found in doing these "bath" jobs is that word gets around, and pretty soon you have people in bringing instruments that would serve better in the fireplace, but they want you to make them playable, and are disappointed when you say you can't help them. Sorry, but I really don't do this for my health. And the ones who come in and expect to pay $25 for a complete re-fret, and then say you need the experience. I usually tell them to go to UA-cam and they can see how easy it is to DIY. I never see them again, or if I do, they say they can see why I charge what I do for my work. People think repairing stringed and fretted musical instruments is just a "hobby thing", and not a serious occupation.
I know it was not really worth the time, but I liked the sound of the Kay. It has a vintage vibe to it and looks like its endlessly traveled the country via railroad cars.
You have the patience of a saint! One of those jobs that could just go on and on if your experience didn’t stop you from allowing it to!
Loved the screw removal method. Thanks.
Came for the 135. Stayed to watch the Kay. Great job.
You might of taken a bath, but we all are thankful for the awesome cleaning you show us. Thanks
I once waited 3 years for a '60s Greco 12 string that had collapsed at the saddle all the x-bracing popped underneath, but my luthier, like you is a patient man and when I receive that 12-string back it played like a heavenly harp patience is the key to this business and you sir definitely have it and do excellent work and I enjoy watching your videos,
LOL. The disdain in his voice is great!
I have the same issue with screws when restoring melodeons. I find old printers and take them apart, saving all of the screws. They're full of useful, small, and obscure sizes.
Oh man, as Chet Atkins said, "some guitars just need to be disposed of." I bow to your respect as to the customer's misguided desires. Value is an invented concept within the human heart.
So true :)
Chet Atkins must have seen Willie Nelson's guitar (Trigger) when he made that comment.
The Lordship of Repair...
That was some Really Mind~Numbing Solutions...
But that Poor Ol' 12 sounds Pretty Darned Good, afterall!
Mr. Ted left out the part where he had to remove (and replace) the pick guard so his custom church-pew-bridge-saddle-slotting-guide would lay flatt(ish). This level of repair, and charity, amazes me. It shows the fine character, as well as the skill and experience of Mr. Ted, who is also referred to as "Canadian Jesus". As a side note, a left-handed drill bit (yes, it is a thing) will easily remove a small, stripped out Phillips screw, without using an extractor.
I'm no Hercule Poirot, but a bandmate definitely broke that guitar when he was out the room.
There once was an idiot bassist ...
" I can't spend a lot of time on this" then does anyway. I appreciate how you have to do right. Thanks.
That old Kay just proved why it is justified to fix an old guitar the sound is amazing
Robins could fly under those strings on the Kay
You are a genius!
I enjoyed your playing. I was waiting for ‘Walk right in’🎶
Wow that Gibson repair is impressive!
You appear to be a repairman of equal parts "tried & true technique" and creative input.
I always learn something from your posts. Using the airbrush to penetrate the glue deeply was a great tip.
Yes! Perfect Saturday evening.
Always a pleasure to watch you work! Saved that 12 from death!
Really enjoy this length video, know it’s a lot of extra time, but thank you.
Damn that Gibson has a nice ring to it.
I share your passion for restoration, and for me it's much more of a trained hobby- as I don't own a shop. GREAT JOB on the 12! I could hear the life that you resurrected back over my phone! Quite well done!
Ted, you are an artist. I actually really enjoyed watching you resurrect the old Kay. Not too shabby!
I had the last version of the ES-135. It had a mahogany center block; humbucking pickups; a tune-o-matic and stop tail; and it had a control cavity access on the back. I now own a 1993 Gibson Howard Roberts Fusion III, which is a slightly downsized 135, but has fingerboard binding, and a "fingers" trapeze tailpiece.
Excellent ..........bringing that guitar back from the brink. Total respect for your skill......... I honestly reckon you could raise The Titanic!!
One of the things that sets you apart Ted is, good or bad, you just won't do a crap job - even if you lose money. I hope he's a hell of a customer! Thanks for the vid.
That 12 is gorgeous well worth the effort thank you 😊
There is a special place in the afterlife for instrument repairmen.
My man, saving guitars from the trash can. It's a noble cause. I wish it came with noble cash...
You think he’s doing this for pennies? Lol
@@kfossa344 He said he took a loss in this case and others. Also, I said cash not pennies. I have had a lot of my guitars refretted and worked on so I know the cost. I guess you missed my point.
Ahh...the weekly fix is here! Thanks Ted.
Rock on, Huddie!
Saying "the action is a little high" on this guitar such as it was is like saying "there's one or two car chases" in a Fast and Furious movie ;)
I thought, "What about an oscillating tool with a fine cut blade...?"...and then you said it. I'm so proud. 🥲
The Kay sounded really nice!
See, this is why you need a patreon. People here love seeing un-economical repairs like that Kay, and as you almost always do some extra touch-ups and improvements out of your own pocket, it seems only fair that we can chip in for the privilege of watching you go above and beyond :)
I must say: ES 135s are sleepers rock n roll machines. I think the (not that) thinking body's with the p-90s give these guitar some really cool overdrive tones
I love these videos, but please tell me I'm not the only one who feels like Ted is somehow yelling and whispering at the same time?
I am lucky enough to have an ES135. They are amazing. I am a huge P100 fan. The neck just feels awesome. It plays like a short scale (es125), but they have that hollow body vibe.
What colour?
WOW, that's one hell of a repair, nice job!
I'm usually always in favor of repairing things and keeping them going, but damn that 12 string is literal firewood. Congrats on making it functional
I love watching you work because you always take your time and do it right, it would be easy to write off the Kay and be more sloppy and say "screw it, the factory didn't get the scale length right, I'll leave the saddle the way it is cuz it's not worth it" but you go through and do it anyways. Mad respect.
I used to work on cars and would get into the same kind of situations, you want to do something for somebody's old beater that they only want to spend $400 on, so you think you're just going to do quick and easy and then you run into so many little issues that just eat up your time and add frustration.
"Stairway" man! Haha. Good job as always.
Ted , every time I watch one of your videos I get more impressed by your work , damn you made that 12 string sound awesome .
Really appreciate you showing so much love for an old beater 12 string like that Kay and turning it from firewood into a playable guitar again. It might be cheap and badly made, but when you played it at the end it sounded pretty darn nice. These are the kind of guitars that so many of the great (and not so great like me) musicians in the world started out on and they have their place in history along with the great instruments of the past.
Simply put, you are a genius my friend. Respect from Melbourne Oz.
every gift begins with kay
That 12 string really came out well considering it’s arrival shape. Well done giving it a new life.
You've got greats skills, and combined with you're pragmatism, those guitars are just goin' to get fixed. I hope the owner of the the Kay sees this video and compensates you accordingly. That guitar has got that wonderful old time tone. Lead belly was the perfect music to play on it. Your tenacity alone made me subscribe! Thanks
Picksalot. I'm serious -- this could be the very same old Kay guitar I nearly tossed in a dumpster in 1966.... Only paid $ 60 for it. Instead, I gave it to a "frenemy" to play. We both thought Leadbelly's tunes would work well on that contraption. Where he took it, I'll never know. Bob
You did that twelve string justice sir, giving back to the art in a responsible manner. Well done.
You are Amazing💪💪💪💪💪💪, I cannot imagine how frustrating that 12 string repair was.. Thanks
A very educational video. That 12 string doesn't sound bad at all now. Good work!
Nice job on the Kay. Shocked to hear that it sounds so good!
a lot of work but that Kay sounds incredible
Also, you can tell when you like the instrument by how you play it. If you really like it, you'll rock back and forth.
If any of Ted's uploads demonstrate his skill and professionalism it's this one. Given a guitar from the low end of the spectrum that looks fit for little other than hanging on the wall as a curiosity, and even working within a budget, he goes out of his way to produce an eminently playable instrument.
Actually, that unintentionally mottled soundboard makes it look somehow more authentically vintage and it certainly suits the old-style jangle.
Great video.
Gibson first started using balsa in the Chet Atkins signature electrics - I had a Tennessean that sounded amazing and was definitely lighter than an ES-335. I suspect they decided to try it on other electrics.
Great job. Thank you for sharing.
I was very pleasantly surprised at the sound of the Gibson semi. It was harmonically very rich. Jangly but deeper.
You're going to have to find a way to avoid taking a bath on those Kay type jobs. It's okay if it's for your friend's wedding and the shop is slow and the guitar is kinda worth it, but... nah. Estimates with dire warnings, not quotes; straight time and materials. You risk devaluing your service and being taken advantage of. The cost risk should always be the guitar owner's, not your business's -- as long as you're up front about the very high probability of complications.
But keep up the great work, man. 😎
That 12 string sounded more Blind Willie McTell to my ears.That job really was bath time..........................
Yea, totally borther.................................................................................................................gobbles
It's a great pleasure to watch your videos, sir! Thanks you!
I think that 12 string would be worth the time honestly. I mean as long as it was stable, but I love old looking guitars like that.
Reminds me of a time I agreed to add an electrical point for a widow in our church. Figured it couldn't take longer than 2 or 3 hours. The whole day later and having to rent extra power tools to drill through the outer wall I just sort of gave up and did it for the fun
Wow! You turned that guitar shaped firewood into a player. Nice work.
Man, fantastic job bringing that Kay back from the dead! I was cracking up every time you would point out the next problem...
I was going to recommend the oscillating multitool, when you mentioned it. I own a fein multimaster. It is not a precision instrument, but it allows you to make certain cuts you would not be able to without it. Saved my butt a bunch of times. I recommend getting the Starlock Plus type, because it makes changing out the saws a lot easier.
Thanks for the great video!
I took a bath on a Harmony here recently, but at the same time it got saved from the dumpster.
You did a miracle on that 12 string guitar .. and saying that finding the right position for the string allignment is a sort of art and science made my day... i build cigar box guitars as my hobby and finding the right action height and string position make me thinking of beeing dumb.. but now i know that it can be a little bit tricky .. so i know why sometimes i struggle into doing that ..
That 12-string reminds me of one I once had. No name, or forgotten, probably all "mahogany", sounded just like this one. All jangle, no balls. The opposite of the Leo Kottke tone. That really was a lot of work for... that.
Nice job bringing back that 12 string wall hanger. More like Leather Belly. 🤘👏
Very funny episode....dude, you are really the best luthier around
That Kay doesnt sound to bad. Its a shame cause it looks like its made with quality wood.
Hi friend. Been binging and really enjoying your videos.
A little nugget for you:
Some valve lapping compound on the tip of your screwdriver can go a long way toward getting out damaged screws and prevent camming out of really stubborn ones that aren't stripped yet.
Thanks so much for sharing your work. 😊
Great job!! Luv it..
My es 225td was 2 pickup but boy did it feed back like crazy. It was light as a feather though.
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone knocked that Guitar over and didn't tell the guy that owns it that it happened🤔🤐😞😒😓