Mike Mutzel: Unmasking the Bias of a Vegan Activist (Me!)
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Veganism is activism, not science, according to Mike.
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Effect of a plant-based, low-fat diet versus an animal-based, ketogenic diet on ad libitum energy intake by Kevin Hall
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Apolipoprotein B Levels Predict Future Development of Hypertension Independent of Visceral Adiposity and Insulin Sensitivity
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Physiological Bases for the Superiority of Apolipoprotein B Over Low-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol and Non-High-Density Lipoprotein Cholesterol as a Marker of Cardiovascular Risk
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Enough Is Enough: Stop Wasting Money on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements
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Metals in Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases
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0:00 Mike Mutzel responds to Plant Chompers
2:27 My TEDx talk: vegan activism?
5:29 Mike's view of vegan scientists
6:07 Mike is a supplement salesman
12:22 Mike's concerns about me
15:59 Explaining ApoB like we're 5
20:27 Explaining ApoB with a paper
21:40 Berberine
25:10 Thomas Dayspring on lipids
28:03 Mike's heart disease guests
33:44 Insulin and the pancreas
36:24 My other reasons for being vegan - Наука та технологія
Where do you get the composure, patience and determination to deliver such thoughtful responses? You have wisdom that in some ways is more impressive than the science you present. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, thank you for being a beacon of truth and peace.
And this is the difference between a CEO of a supplement company making videos as a funnel to his supplement website and someone who does videos for the benefit of the people, environment, and animals.
How does eating plant based help the environment, vegans produce 7x more gases than an average person and people who remove plants from their diet produce even less gases. The land animals are farmed on can't be used for growing human edible crops and regenerative grass fed farming actually helps the environment. Also animal farming is pretty sustainable, there hasn't been any significant change in how many animals are farmed for decades, the planet has sustained much higher amounts of life in the past and there are way more significant causes of emissions than animals
@@ryanwellington7493 source for 7x more emissions?
This recent 2023 oxford study shows vegan diets reduce water usage by 46%, emissions by 75% and species extinction by 65%.
"Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts"
Only 1% of cows are Grass fed grass finished in the US. Most of the land used for animals is to produce crops for them to eat. Regen ag is bs, you can wa I tch mic the vegan's vid I eo going over the evidence "ditching veganism to eat grass fed beef for the environment?' Large amounts of greenhouse gasses are emitted even if the cow population remained stable, but we know this is not the case and cattle numbers have 3x in the last 120 years. These are also bigger cows due to genetic selection, which produce more missions as well. Going vegan is the single best action we can do as individuals to reduce our emissions, as per another oxford study. 96% of mammal biomass on earth is man-made so I don't really see how there coulve been more animals living at one time. Even if this was the case, those animals wouldn't have been rumiant ones, which are the ones especially detrimental to the environment.
I don't know where you're getting all that information (Mike maybe?) from but it's probably a good time to look at other sources.
@@ryanwellington7493 source for 7x more emissions?
This recent 2023 oxford study shows vegan diets reduce water usage by 46%, emissions by 75% and species extinction by 65%.
"Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts"
Only 1% of cows are Grass fed grass finished in the US. Most of the land used for animals is to produce crops for them to eat. Regen ag is bs, you can wa I tch mic the vegan's vid I eo going over the evidence "ditching veganism to eat grass fed beef for the environment?' Large amounts of greenhouse gasses are emitted even if the cow population remained stable, but we know this is not the case and cattle numbers have 3x in the last 120 years. These are also bigger cows due to genetic selection, which produce more missions as well. Going vegan is the single best action we can do as individuals to reduce our emissions, as per another oxford study. 96% of mammal biomass on earth is man-made so I don't really see how there coulve been more animals living at one time (dinosaurs?) Even if that was the case, it wouldn't be a reason to keep destroying the planet, so what's the point to the argument?
I don't know where you're getting all that information (Mike maybe?) from but it's probably a good time to look at other sources.
@@ryanwellington7493 source for 7x more emissions?
This recent 2023 oxford study shows vegan diets reduce water usage by 46%, emissions by 75% and species extinction by 65%.
"Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts"
Only 1% of cows are Grass fed grass finished in the US. Most of the land used for animals is to produce crops for them to eat. Regen ag is bs, you can wa I tch mic the vegan's vid I eo going over the evidence "ditching veganism to eat grass fed beef for the environment?' Large amounts of greenhouse gasses are emitted even if the cow population remained stable, but we know this is not the case and cattle numbers have 3x in the last 120 years. These are also bigger cows due to genetic selection, which produce more missions as well. Going vegan is the single best action we can do as individuals to reduce our emissions, as per another oxford study. 96% of mammal biomass on earth is man-made so I don't really see how there coulve been more animals living at one time (dinosaurs?) Even if that was the case, it wouldn't be a reason to keep destroying the planet, so what's the point to the argument?
I don't know where you're getting all that information (Mike maybe?) from but it's probably a good time to look at other sources.
@@ryanwellington7493 source for 7x more emissions?
This recent 2023 oxford study shows vegan diets reduce water usage by 46%, emissions by 75% and species extinction by 65%.
"Vegans, vegetarians, fish-eaters and meat-eaters in the UK show discrepant environmental impacts"
Thanks Chris, for the mention that salmon aren’t part of the Mediterranean ecosystem. First time I finally heard a UA-camr add that fact.
And, the poor salmon! They e had such a rough last 3-5 years!
Fortunately, if you are worried that your body won't convert enough ALA Omega 3 from ground flax seeds, chia seeds, walnuts, etc, just take an algae based DHA/EPA supplement. That way you avoid the drawbacks of fish. Fish get their Omega 3 from eating algae.
Thanks for pointing that out! All those photos with salmon parts splatted over veggies are wrong mediterranean marketing.
Plant Chompers, Simon Hill, and Nutrition Made Simple are the most unbiased sources I've seen on UA-cam. Ridiculous to say otherwise.
So true! I used to be a big Dr. Greger fan, and in some ways I still am, but for objectivity, the three you list are tops.
Nutrition Made Simple is best, Chompers does cherry pick
@@sectionalsofayes Dr Gregor is a great but for sure some of his videos are sloppy (meaning some of the claims are not backed by the evidence )where the ones mentioned are very solid at least from what I seen so far.
Well I think all three have biases towards a plant based diet, but they are at least open about their bias and don't try to deceive or distort the science. Someone like Dr Greger or Anthony Chaffee clearly let their agendas override an honest portrayal of the science
@@yogiyoda Agreed.
I'm an engineer and know plenty of practicing engineers in my field with a PE License AND a Masters Degree. Having these credentials does not necessarily make you a good engineer--it means you were good at taking 1 exam (which you have to get ~70% on to pass) and being a good student for 1.5-2 extra years.
The same looks to be true of Nutrition. Credentials are important, but don't mean anyone is 100% trustworthy.
100%
the same is true of every profession...people here drive their cars like crap, but hey, they passed a test and exam, some of them passed a driving course, some of them have driving experience as much as 30 years or more, and still drives like crap...i distrust all until they prove they have value...
My brother is a doctor. He is good at what he does having had to pass very very tough exams.
But I have to say his ethical worldview is questionable given he feels as though he can do whatever he wants as long as he can follow what he was thought about being nice to people.
I am not a vegan ......yet......but because of this channel, I have greatly reduced my meat intake for health, ethical reasons and for the planet. To label you a vegan activist is a big call. You don't push veganism rather, show what is a healthy diet through science. Thanks for a great video........and.........please tell more kids stories.....😁
Please… go completely vegan… we all wait with baited breath.
@@LunaHawthorne You know, I would be happy to go all out vegan and wouldn't miss meat, dairy and eggs at all. My biggest hurdle is the ridicule I would get from my family, friends and work mates. So when I am eating by myself, I eat vegan, it is only when I am in the company of others that I eat meat. How does one get over that hurdle?
@@stevenfrew9301 a handful of ways. First of all, you have to know that it all dies down eventually. I’ve been vegan for 4 years know and pretty much nobody says anything about it anymore. Secondly, it takes an emotional conviction. I personally exist like that for a handful of weeks, where you want desperately to convince yourself to do it, but cannot stomach the consequences even while being intellectually convinced. Here’s my advice to you. Take a moment, right now, and just think about it. Every time you eat an animal, somebodies full existence has been miserable just for you to enjoy one moment and not face ridicule which will die down eventually. I hope I don’t come off as condescending or arrogant as I am trying to help. One thing I did that might help you is to just text anybody that would need to know. Simply say that you are going vegan for ethical reasons and that you would rather not talk about it for a while, as face to face conversations about more serious topics like veganism tend to be hard to deal with as somebody farely new to them. Think of it like you are skydiving. I promise you that it will all feel so much better once you just jump. Take that first step and I promise you that you will never look back. It sounds like you are in a similar situation to where I was, and I hope everything I just said helps. I would love to hear back if you do go through with it.
Yup, he has even had guests on like Gil Carvalho, who although he is vegan himself has straight out said that the science shows that a small amount of meat intake has negligible impact on human health(ignoring the externalities of creating that meat of course). Excessive meat intake on the other hand, not good. This channel is not above straight up saying that veganism isn't the only path to optimal health but that anyone who does eat meat should limit their intake.
Small steps. Saw a Stanford Med recommendation in this video to make 75% of your plate veg (I'd suggest 75% whole foods that are plant-based, and not 75% Twinkies and Coca-Cola) Go 100% during the weekdays, and 2 meals on the weekend with maybe some eggs and fish...maybe.
Choosing vegan helps me with my climate angst. It’s the least I can do everyday to help our earth
If only the climate crisis was real
Eat like you want, but don't worry about it from a climate perspective. Yes, animals contribute a lot to greenhouse gases. Yes, there are more cows today than ever in history, however, there are a lot less buffalo and elephants. Greenhouse gas emissions from animals aren't that big a deal unless you plan on killing the animals off to get rid of them.
Also, do you only eat locally grown food? If you are eating foods grown in other countries, you are contributing more to greenhouse gasses than a person that eats locally raised animals.
@@myrhevjust some numbers: The USDA estimates approximately 30Mio. Bisons in the US during their peak times and they fed on grass only - no extra corn or soybeans were cultivated. As of Jan/2023 there are 29 Mio beef cattle plus 10 Mio dairy cows and a certain number of calves which I could not figure out in second. Brazil
hosts another 29Mio cattle and I doubt there’s was a comparable number of bisons around in Brazil before. Gas & methane emission is only one aspect to consider when it comes environmental damage of beef & dairy production. We have to stop breeding this insane number of animals into the world to feed us.
@@myrhevThat's complete nonsense, transportation for almost all foods accounts for less than 10% of emissions.
Animal products produce several hundreds to thousands of percent higher emissions than plant foods.
So no, eating locally raised animals does not help much at all.
It reduces emissions by a tiny amount compared to what you could save by switching to a healthier and more plant-rich diet.
How does eating plant based help the environment, vegans produce 7x more gases than an average person and people who remove plants from their diet produce even less gases. The land animals are farmed on can't be used for growing human edible crops and regenerative grass fed farming actually helps the environment. Also animal farming is pretty sustainable, there hasn't been any significant change in how many animals are farmed for decades, the planet has sustained much higher amounts of life in the past and there are way more significant causes of emissions than animals.
Mike is projecting when he talks about bias. He sells supplements, and his sloppy work clearly show his bias (see my previous comment on here), unlike your videos, which are tight !
you just havent tried the alpha male stack with bull testicle extract
It's so weird when people say, "I have no skin in the game." when this is regarding their current or future health. You can't get any more skin in the game than that.
Also, that joke about, "Do I miss meat or cheese? I miss being liked." cracked me up. XD
Many a true word spoken in jest. Health vegans. and their advocates are hated. Why? Because in a capitalist society it's very difficult to make money out of them. No money for Big Pharma, Big food and/or many of the doctors.
@@vthomas375 Not only that but vegans are a minority which makes them different. There is a lot of social pressure to be like everyone else. It's either that or get ostracized. On top of that, people know deep down they're hypocrites. I remember saying, "I could never be vegan. They're so skinny and unhealthy." While being nearly 100 pounds overweight and on the track to being dead by 40.
I agree about bias, Ninja.
An extreme analogy would be comparing carnivores and fastors. Both might feel better, but the latter feels better due to delayed gratification and maybe placebo, whereas the former is more closely related to indulgence.
@@eugenetswong I honestly don't know how carnivores feel better. I tried merely keto for a single week and had to stop because I couldn't be on the treadmill for 10 minutes without feeling like I was going to have a heart attack.
I am vegan for the animals; however, my health has improved dramatically. I no longer need blood pressure or cholesterol medicine. Follow the science and your conscience.
Same… although even if it was somehow unhealthy we still should be vegan… it is ridiculous to say that being vegan needs to be a healthier for people to consider it.
We can still be both healthy and compassionate though.
@@FarNorthLiving by being vegan.
I think I am a rarity. I went vegan solely for the animals. My health was good (I was 59) and my weight wasn’t an issue. 3 years (nearly) on and my health is the same and I am a couple of pounds heavier which isn’t an issue. I have started supplementing B12 (though often forget to do so). I see my doctor once a year and get a blood test which I find hard to understand but all markers remain good.
I eat what I enjoy, not what is necessarily good for me but I would change that for sure if I had to though not if that meant eating animals as enough of them had to suffer in my first 59 years before I woke up to the harm I had caused so many of them for no good reason.
My wife went vegan primarily for the animals. Having been vegetarian myself for approximately 20+ years - I am 61 - I went vegan 12 years ago. Diagnosed with PP multiple sclerosis I believe I have reversed the disease. No meds other than B12 & D3 supplements I never get sick ever. Folk say I am lucky. I am primarliy a whole food plant vegan.@@robsengahay5614
Vegans are technically less biased because they used to eat meat and had to research veganism in order to change.
I was just about to say the same thing! I'm also an ex ex-vegan, so I even did it twice lol
Yes most of us absolutely.
@@carravogueme to! But I'm never going back again though. I know more about it now. From the environment to health and animal rights.
And yet it didnt dawn on Vegans that humans and our pets are the only animals on the planet requiring a tooth brush and if a plant foundation diet were so healthy was does it make our mouth diseased.
@@jamiepitcher2055 Same here! I bought so much of the anti-vegan health and nutrition propaganda for years and was so incredibly happy to discover that the myths I bought into were misleading, if not outright lies.
Great video. Watched the whole thing straight through. Thanks for not having commercial interruptions. You are definitely biased towards quality peer reviewed science. You do a wonderful job summarizing books and journal papers that is engaging. You have helped me in my nutrition journey. Keep up the great work.
Chris, you and you’re channel are the reason that I switched from a carnivore to vegan diet for my health. I realize now how many lies and half-truths people in the carnivore community, like Mike Mutzel and others, use to justify and push the “health benefits” of their life style. I was very unwell at the time and I only got worse. Now, for the very first time in 5 years (or more) my blood pressure is below 120/70 (when it had been closer to 155/90 day to day) and it’s only been ONE WEEK! I’m still struggling to improve my health but have to believe that it will gradually improve on a Whole Foods plant based diet. THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for your work and the way you share and present your knowledge and those of other experts with the world. ❤
Didn’t you say in another comment that you switch to an all meat diet and after you healed started to add other foods in? In this comment you say you only got worse on an all meat diet. Are you being totally honest?
@@davidr1431 yup I 100% did. And I had many gut and pain related issues that seemed to be resolved or much improved, but others, like high blood pressure, that never did and then I wound up in a hospital in another country 3 weeks ago and called my family to say goodbye because I thought I was going to die. There is NOTHING in this world like a near-death experience and calling your kids and husband to tell them you love them to make you re-evaluate your health choices.
After I got out of the hospital I started doing research and I decided 1 week ago to make this switch because I’d rather not be dead. At this moment, right now, the Carnivore clan is doing one huge experiment with people’s lives. I also found out last week that the Inuits have a freaking gene mutation that allows them to eat all that freaking meat without the kinds of side effects others would experience. Anyways…thanks for reminding me that I need to go remove all my old posts in support of the Carnivore diet.
@@davidr1431 also, thank you for providing me this opportunity to enunciate exactly what caused this switch. I hope you make choices that being you good health. ✌️
Interesting! However, there are also many many people who have found absolute health through a keto or carnivore diet (many after switching from a vegan or vegetarian diet). To me it shows how no-one can be super dogmatic about either extreme (and yes in terms of omnivore they are extremes), but need to let each person find their own way. Many people have become quite ill on a whole foods vegan diet over time, and have felt the need to reintroduce meat or dairy. And as you say, there are others like you who have needed to reintroduce plants. I guess it is a combination of complex genes, previous exposure to toxins/irritants/processed crap, gut biome, exercise, sleep, age.
@@JustJulia-qt9nhWow, what a journey you have been on. I commend your intention to change your past comments as well. It's not easy to turn around these days. The digital footprint dies hard.
"A doctor can tell you if you have drunk uncles in your submarines and, if you do, you should eat less candy." This segment was *pure gold*. Great response as always, Chris!!!!
Hahaha, as I was recording that bit, my wife was saying "what in the world...? Is anyone going to take you seriously?" 🤷
My 84 year old mom is not vegan probably because she was traumatized by some baby chickens in a chicken house when she was a toddler, but she has been eating a plant exclusive diet for the last 4 years and has aged minus 18 years according to the Levine Biological Age Calculator (Yale) that is based on blood work tests. Her physician was continually amazed as she discontinued ten daily medications over the past few years. The revolution will not be televised.
Nowadays, just mentioning your stance on animal welfare pretty much makes you an activist.
Vegans simply existing annoys some people.
@notrenton I have a green "V" on my car and they whip around me, cut me off on the road, ect. I just laugh...
@@Itsunclegabby3 percent psychopathic people so not shocked.
@@Itsunclegabby that’s hilarious. I’m going to put one on my Subaru and see what happens. People already almost wreck trying to pass me because their fragile egos can’t handle being behind a Subaru, a vegan sticker might make them stroke out. Funny thing is no one passes me or does their big boy driving when I’m in my truck. People are weird!
So be it my friend!!
Great response, characteristically classy and well reasoned. More than his superficial and disingenuous critique of your video deserves, in my opinion. It's crazy how quickly anti-vegans go to the musculature of an endurance athlete/scientist as an argument against the studies being cited by that individual. Anyway, excellent job. I think you have a bright future as a children's author at the very least .
Hahaha, thanks! It would be more fun to do a channel on children's books...
I saved my own life eating plants only.
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and so many more lives :)
I could care less what anyone says. Eating plants freed me from the guilt of consuming something that causes torcher and death. I felt bad about eating animals as a child because animals are friends not food. Nutritional benefits are an added bonus of eating vegan. Carnivores will do and say anything to protect their way of life. They target us because we are doing something they have chosen not to do but know the pain and suffering they continue to inflict. Soil is so depleted that supplements are needed vegan or not. The junk now considered food is why everyone is so sick. Eat your veggies!
Gotta grow our own food and get some volcanic rocks in your soil. It has all the trace minerals in it.
Most humans are revolted by the sight of blood, intestines, and raw flesh and can’t tolerate hearing the screams of animals being ripped apart. The bloody reality of killing and eating animals is innately repulsive to us. While carnivores take pleasure in killing animals and eating their raw flesh, any human who killed an animal with his
or her bare hands and ate the raw corpse would be considered deranged. The best thing that anyone can do for animals is not to eat them! Not eating meat is the simplest way to save the lives of up to 100 animals every year - and to reject the daily cruelty and animal abuse that occur in abattoirs and on factory farms. Ditching meat is also one of the best things that you can do for your health and the environment.
@@astonuk9403 and dairy...
I wish I could like this comment a million times. This is exactly how I feel as well. At the end of the day I'm vegan it frees me of the guilt knowing the horrible things that go on in factory farms. I grew up during the dot com bubble and came across graphic videos of factory farms at a young age. I still have vivid memories of eating meat and having to set down my "food" as those videos would play in my head, reminding me of what I was consuming and what I was participating in.
I didn't think I'd be able to actually commit to being vegan when I started but here I am over 8 years later and never felt better. I also feel that for myself going vegan and keeping committed to my values was a pivotal point in my own life in setting personal accountability and helped build / reinforce my confidence too.
@@astonuk9403 I know a lot of people who take pleasure in the killing of animals. It is called hunting. As for the raw aspect, I think a lot of that comes from how we are raised. We are taught from the time we can walk that meat must be cooked for food safety. It is good advice and prevents a lot of pathogens.
“I believe he’s had a TED talk over on UA-cam somewhere” - he makes it sound like that video is in the witness protection program!😂😂😂
"Buy this amazing new supplement that eliminates virtually all of my credibility"
Another victory for science over intellectual dishonest fraudsters.
You should do an episode covering osteoporosis and bone health, it is definitely something not many people think about, especially younger people such as myself. Also there is plenty to talk about, great myth busting opportunities such as vegan/veg diets being bad for bone health, anti-nutrients, dairy and calcium, the list goes on. Great ep as always Chris!
Dr Avi did a fairly good coverage of the bones study, and he does actual medical research I believe
You are so right! I am a bone densitometrist and the meat and dairy eaters have terrible bone density
I did keto for a while in an effort to get my anxiety under control and it worked. During that time I found a few of Mike's videos to be pretty helpful, but he's clearly biased and not above being disingenuous at times. I watched his video when it came out and rolled my eyes when he called you out for not being jacked. My grandparents, by your age, were decrepit and nearly dead. You look great and are always moving in your videos. That was such a silly nitpick on his part.
I don't always agree with this channel, but I thought this was a measured and thoughtful response. I've become more and more plant-based as time goes on, and I feel that unbiased quality content like yours is very helpful for people like me who have a bad habit of finding something that seems to work temporarily and want to cling to it like gospel. We're all works in progress, I guess.
Excellent. I'm not vegan or vegetarian, but I am health conscious. I try to eat real food, not too much, mostly (but not only) plants. I am marching towards 60, in great health, and take no medication. I love your channel. It's informative, fact based, and entertaining. Keep up the great work.
Vegan for 15 years and that's only because of science. It is a passion of mine to study health and nutrition so when I see these "Dr.'s" peddling their useless supplements, I find comfort knowing there are people as passionate as you to point out their hypocrisy.
Science hahahahhahaha
Gotta love the "Well he's skinny, clearly no sufficient protein intake"
That “Few good men” turned chemistry was amazing
The older I become, the more I understand that the greatest Doctor of all is Dr. Seuss! Thanks for an entertaining, engaging and most informative post.
Your channel is one of the most informative and straightforward without any selling gimmicks and ads on UA-cam. I don't understand why Mike have to pick on you considering you do a very fair and all round discussion on various topics. If anything he's the one who's biased!!! Love how you respond back to his video with even more facts and with such respectful manner without any accusation. Thank you so much for all your hard work and such a great job editing the video making it easy to watch!
Howdy Chris,
I've been vegetarian/plant based for 23 years now. I started on the path because of seeing my overweight diabetic mother on the ICU bed after her quadruple heart bypass surgery. And while I was sad for her, all I could think was the 30 extra pounds I was carrying would put me on one of those tables in the future if I didn't change something.
So found Dr. Esselstein and Dr. McDougall - both advocating for a plant based diet. And I was off. And funny, but those 30 extra pounds I was carrying came off all by themselves. No increase in activity. No extra fitness added (I was already in the military and had plenty of exercise). It was challenging eating vegetarian in the military, but I began limiting myself to plant based foods. And then found the other reasons for doing it. Animal cruelty being one, and not having to worry about food poisoning from meat was another.
Anyway, thanks for continuing to make videos to both defend yourself, and point out what those other folks do to science. Even when science doesn't always seem to agree, it does agree that the American diet is the worst!
Wow, for Mike to bring on Mr. Cowan and call him a doctor is jarring.
My father and brother are both intense followers of Mr Mutzel and they take any chance they get to make fun of me and my dietary choices.
Sending them to videos like this and scientific papers isn’t enough, the misinformation is greatly affecting lives and most would rather listen to an entertaining voice than research and reason.
I'm not surprised that he is still called a doctor. At least 1 other is still calling himself a doctor. I don't understand how the system works. Are they still allowed to claim the title without the license, because they still have the education?
I wonder that too. Ken Berry always introduces himself as a family physician even though his license is suspended.
@@PlantChompers Shawn baker has MD in his UA-cam channel and Twitter handle too even though his license got revoked. Just incredible
If I understand it correctly one you keep calling yourself an MD in the USA, even if you don't practice or your license got revoked. MD just means that you got your degree.
@@PlantChompers Are you sure about that? Is probation a suspension?
I think many people enjoy the longer episodes. Especially since they're full of helpful information and are entertaining. You're very generous and patient, even when you don't agree with someone. That's refreshing. Taking the higher road and allowing science to prove your points.
It's always seemed funny to me that people who promote an omnivorous diet accuse other people of having a bias without recognizing that their belief in an omnivorous diet also makes them biased. Taking the middle road is also a choice based upon your beliefs. Or as Rush once sang, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."
Also, I'm a vegan bodybuilder. I think it's hilarious that he says you don't have much muscle because I'm looking at his physique and asking, "Does this guy even lift?" 😅 I'm not impressed at all by his physique. It's all subjective.
On top of that, people that promote a “middle road diet” are more often than not doing so from a modern diet standpoint, meaning they think it is okay to have some fries, deep fried chicken and chocolate bars once in a while - just don’t eat too many of them and you’ll be fine!!
A middle road diet should probably be something closer to the Mediterranean diet, mostly plants and some fish. Which is arguably a very good diet, but as vegans know it is not the best one
I looked at a house in low murder rate neighborhood but moderation is better so I moved to a neighborhood with a moderate murder rate.
he got a good athletic body. He is a scammer, but nice bod
I agree, Jack.
I insist that meat eaters have a stronger bias, because they are defending their own taste preferences. Vegans are engaging in self denial [correct phrase??].
Agreed. I think it must be a taste/hyperpalatability thing because fish is undeniably healthier and you don't see passionate fishavores or popular fast food joints serving fish burgers.
My gosh, I’m going to my doctor today actually, and will ask him if I have drunk uncles in my submarines.
He’s a rheumatologist, but he’ll understand ☺️
Oof. I also have a BS/MS in nutrition science but don't weaponize my credentials to trick people into buying useless or potentially harmful supplements. Bad form, bro. I hate saying it, but there are too many people with science degrees who mistakenly believe they're experts. The more I learn in my own field, the more I become aware of the extent of the gaps in my own knowledge. Humility is extremely underrated.
Bias is extremely more on the animal consumers side even though they are protecting no human or nonhuman animal.
Some months ago Mike backflipped on fasting and IF, and he just seemed to turn more biased towards meat sources and muscle mass. None of that appeals to longevity and health span within my sense of understanding the science to reach those goals. I already unsubscribed to his channel.
I did subscribe to your channel recently, and I consider it to be one of the best sources of quality information for nutrition and ease of learning for the really important issues about health and nutrition. Plus, you’re excellent at editing to get the optimal fit for science information and length of presentation.
Truly, you provide a very valuable service and resource to YT users, and I believe you’re in the top ten for accurate nutrition information and diet usefulness to optimize one’s diet for health span and lifespan.
Thank you kindly for the help you provide to all that find you on YT.
Thank you so much. I'm always very concerned that I don't have a PhD in nutrition and am not a doctor, so it makes me try so much harder to make sure I'm fact checked by people who are super solid.
I unsubscribed from Mike’s channel about a year and a half ago when he started interviewing pseudoscientists and hard selling his supplements. At that time I was following a pretty neat-based diet. Now I’m doing WFPB thanks to my plant-chompers education.
Your videos are top-notch, keep up the great work, we luv ya; and that segment "for kids" in the middle was excellent
Thank you. I think excluding advice from supplement sellers is a good general policy.
😀 Omg, it was good, Chris! Informative, thought provoking, funny and not excessively brutal. How could I even imagine, I could give you any advice??? I need some more time to chew through all the content..... Best regards from Copenhagen!
I thought it was pretty clear that your main thing was to get more people to chomp on more plants
I hope the flamings aren't getting you down. I became vegan for ethical reasons but almost gave it up because everyone kept telling me my health is going to fail and I started coming across videos like What I've Learned--I really started to get spooked. Then I came across your channel, and through it, Dr. Greger, etc. and realized I can live in accordance with my values without sacrificing my health. Thanks so much for being the bridge to real researchers so we can cut through the misinformation. I'm sure I'm just one of the many people you've made a huge difference for!
I love how humble you are and have no problem changing your stance when evidence changes, or admitting if you were wrong about something, you have such a measured, rational approach that I really appreciate. Also, you’re an earth scientist too! Thanks for the great videos!
I appreciate all of your work. Thank you!
Lifting Vegan Logic did a great debunk of Mike's anti-vegan video, recently, it's called "The WORST Anti-Vegan Video on UA-cam FULLY DEBUNKED!"
His most recent video is also a brilliant debunking ua-cam.com/video/2XXduNUsjJ8/v-deo.html
I really like lifting vegan logic's Channel.. 💚✌️
We live in a drug culture. Pharmaceutical companies pedal their products directly to the end user on TV. Influencers pedal their supplements on their platforms, and we've be enculturated to seek quick fixes instead of taking a hard look at our habits. There is no such thing as health in a pill. One needs to work for their health through proper diet, exercise, sleep, stress management and relationships.
Yes, and meat, dairy and eggs are the original drugs.
I have very similar reasons to being completely plant based. I was tired of the poisons in especially meat products, pathogens and wondering if your stomach upset was from the meat you ate....again, even when cooked well. The contamination of land/water from the animals drives me crazy. I don't even like the smell or look of meat any more. About a month after going WFPB my work had a picnic that was catered and it was a pig roast, I brought a peanut butter/banana sandwich in case they had no options I could enjoy. I was so glad I did!not only was the food highly processed and vegetables were covered in stuff not good to eat but I had a hard time having an appetite with how bad it smelled! Idk how people can eat that kind of stuff.
What an awesome show you produced!!! You should get an Oscar for it 🏆 I do hope Mike gets to watch it 😂😂😂
Thank you for doing this. It’s so hard to tell what’s true in the field of nutrition. For every vocal dissenter there are hundreds of us who appreciate your work and have benefited. Stay strong.
You looked like such a baller with the medals hood and shades. Cool ass grandpa right there.
Again an amazing episode.. I really admire how much time you spend on research and exactly your efforts on trying to NOT be bias. 😂I can just laugh about the „vegan activist“ .. simply a ridiculous attempt to discredit you without ground.
I wouldn't have minded the episode going a little longer.
I like longer episodes. I learn more than the cliff notes versions.
I never notice when your episodes are long, Chris, except some of the interviews. When you are showing us science and debunking things, I'm glued to the screen. I want to know facts. I appreciate your reasons for veganism.
You’re gaining momentum with pure science. These snake oil salesman like Mike, are scared. You threaten their profit. We threaten their profit.
Wish I see you when you wake up lol
Depending on what stance we are talking about.
That vegan is the best diet ever was and ever will be, yes that sounds a bit biased. That a wise selection of plants is viable for humans, and less violent and more environment-friendly than even lactovegetarian and ovovegetarian is quite sound.
I can’t say much because of my profession in the medical field. And nobody know what will be twisted and used agains us in the future. But I will say thank you. Thank you for putting forth good information that is actually balanced. Again, I can’t comment much further. But I see a healthcare crisis the runs a complete parallel with the environmental crisis we are facing. So again thank you.
What???
If you are a health care provider, it takes about a full minute to find a other place of employment......
Iti s called supply and demand...they are lacking supply health care professionals and thus demand them by paying more and/or offering more lucrative employment opportunities.
Perhaps relocation costs to another place health insurance free whatever.
Your worry is unfounded.
I wonder if the subscriber-base of Plant Chompers will turn out to be a blue zone? I'd bet my money (and my own longevity) on it 🙂
Now THAT'S a cool idea! 💙
Great work. Addressing our own biases can be hard… thankfully you’ve got the know how to sus out bias vs science.
If you wrote a children's book about cholesterol, I'd buy it. My kids love submarines!
mike is a hypocrite 😂. Great response video , keep em coming!
Looking forward to this. Thanks for posting.
That biochem joke… 🤣
And the oobleck… hate that stuff. Also, I’m 6, not 5! great work, Chris. :)
A few details:
- At 20:57, I think those are cholesterol esters in yellow. The particle containing the triglycerides and cholesterol esters are the LDL themselves.
- An interesting note from my analyses indicates that the liver packages more triglycerides in the smaller LDL particles, and more cholesterol esters (molecules) in the larger LDL, so there is some merit to the idea of looking at triglycerides since it affects LDL particle size. However, like you mentioned, all of that is background importance compared to the number of particles (submarines 😜), which is more important than the size.
Ok, I’m going to go back to whispering to my cells in the lab. Great work!!
Thank you for this!
Great to see you here!
Awesome. Thanks as always for telling the truth and wanting to truly help fellow humans!!! Vegan and healthy till the end!
Chris - Really excellent synopsis of all the reasons why you're vegan!! We discussed that issue / compared our reasons after you mentioned you had "several reasons" on one of your previous videos. I really wish you'd release that 30 - 45 second clip (You giving your reasons) as a "UA-cam SHORT"!!! That way if anyone ever asks me "What are some of the other reasons to go vegan?" - I can just send them that clip. Really excellent!
Mike also did a supposedly unbiased episode titled "vegan diets debunked". Funny enough the whole video relies on a paper by Loren Cordain, founder of the low-carb paleo diet and long-time anti-vegan.
Yes, I gave away his medals to a theater group that was thrilled to have them!
Got a question for you on the fish portion of the Mediterranean diet - since the market is being flooded with farm fed Salmon and that salmon isn’t getting the algae that makes them omega-3 rich, does that mean that people are getting the risks of eating fish without any of the benefits? I have heard that farm fed fish has the similar nutrient deprivation as Cows not having B12 in their diet and ranchers are injecting their cows with B12 (which you explained in detail in your B12 episode).
Animal cruelty aside, I’m not sure if nutrition/omega-3 is a good pro-fish diet anymore. The fish that people now living in their 100’s may no longer exist.
I love the long episodes and I am always grateful for the education that you provide about nutrition. I've been a vegan and interested in nutrition science for over a decade and I always learn new things when I watch your videos.
Thanks! I always cringe when I go so long, but invariably people ask question about stuff I left out if I don't cover it all.
Maybe berberine just doesn't work for vegans, but I took some (supposedly a very high quality/expensive brand) and had headaches and terrible sleep.
Great episode Chris, I love that you don't take critiques personal and always seem to have a pretty funny rebuttal.
Longer episodes so we have whatever you think is important. Please. If it's too long, I'll pause and see the rest later. Thanks for mentioning your iron episode again. We live by it every day. Iron overload is serious business. Blood donation every two months and symptoms are starting to improve. Thanks.
This was fabulous. You lost me in a couple of your previous, more recent videos - they felt like ads for whatever that water fasting clinic is that was being advertised in them. In this video, I really appreciate your composure AND your willingness to question your own beliefs/bias & then make strong arguments. This provides a good example of why we need to questions what puts us in our own camps, whatever the topic, and ensure we are able to back up our perspectives in very practical ways. I don't think it's too much of a stretch too, to have a healthy dose of skepticism when youtubers (no matter how many letters are after their name) are making claims that also line their pockets ie. unregulated supplement sales
Great episode. 30 minutes is about the time I look for to watch a UA-cam video because that is about how long I can stay focus on a social media and work out 💪.
The reason I went ovo-laco vegetarian is for many of the same reasons. I don’t eat white eggs, only brown cage free and range free if I can find them, and I have ice cream once a month.
Keto was killing my gallbladder after two years of being on it. I had to go on a clean diet and keto is not a clean diet. Also I missed fruits and potatoes. My blood work is much better on a veggie diet and I lost more weight being a vegetarian.
One last thing to mention, I don’t need to be rich to live on a keto or carnivore diet. The cost of meats these days are out of this world.
There is vegan ice cream. Brown and white eggs are nutritionally the same. All egg production is cruel and the cage free label is meaningless. Male chicks are sorted out and put in a grinder because they don’t produce eggs.
The kids language section was so on point! Both entertaining, informative and with a bit of subtle irony. Loved it!!
Well done. Please keep it up and don't give up. All the best from Malaysia.
Keep up the good work, your channel is amazing, and your videos are so informative! Thank you!
16:08 starts my favorite part. Even Mater from Cars makes an appearance!! So great!! 🤩Thanks for such a comprehensive episode.
Hi Chris! I’m so grateful that I found your channel. I very much appreciate your well-researched, thorough, and thoughtful approach, as well as your courage to fact-check yourself. Thank you! In this video, you mentioned some of your additional reasons for being vegan, and one that caught my attention was antibiotic resistance. I wonder if you might consider diving deeper into this particular topic for a future episode? Thanks again for all the good stuff you put into the world!
As someone who has struggled between vegan, vegetarian, and now flexitiarian. it's refreshing to see the perceptive that your channel aims for. And as for Mike Mutzel, the science clearly speaks louder than his criticism. Love the content!
I have never once felt like you cherry-picked, or suspected you were doing so. I think you give the information as concisely as possible, in videos you hope the algorithm likes and people will watch. But herein lies the utility of response videos. You could've let it slide, but I enjoyed the follow-up, the way you listened to his critiques, adjusted some of your wording, and stood by your original point.
I, too, am very suspicious of anyone talking nutrition AND selling supplements. Not because they are inherently untrustworthy, but because they stand to make money, and money corrupts.
Seems like just another guy trying to sell his viewers products. And besides his career in selling supplements, saying "I don't have skin in the game" when it effects the planet or health is even more ironic
How can the nice guy Mike Mutzel say he has no skin in the game when he is a snake oil supplement salesman...Love your video Chris.
Thank you. Thank you for all your effort. It surprises me how talented you are with your delivery and all the content you include. Your videos are absolutely excellent. Please keep making them. You inspire me to do something for others
LvL caught Mike Murtzel being dishonest too. He wouldn't retract a false statement he made.
I love your channel. Thank you for everything you do. The time and effort to put these videos together is truly appreciated.
Great episode, always love your videos and haven't had one where i thought it was too long (but then i listen to dr. mc Dougall go on about potatoes for 4 hours..).
I took a basic nutrition and wellness class at E-Cornell, just so that I was not 'a guy' challenging other "a guys" with my book versus their book. In the class Professor Levitsky didn't mention the gut biome, and seemed to have outdated views on the benefits of fiber, as that the gut biome was not mentioned. But my last module (should have been 3rd) was The Role of Fats in Atherosclerosis. The way he explained it is that our arteries after the first year of life become super sensitive to stress, even just the impact of blood cells on to the inner cell walls of the arteries exposes a receptor known as APOE B. With LDL fats present in the cardiovascular system, they are drawn to these receptors. Then white blood cells come to dislodge the fat, and are trapped into a new structure called foam cells, and finally red blood cells themselves are trapped, causing the buildup and streaking of our arteries, CHD. He didn't mention the crystallization of cholesterol inside the arterial walls either. So I keep hearing , now, the term APOE B, and it is referred to as a marker rather than a receptor. Is this an oversimplified tool for dialogue or something I don't understand about the APOE B receptors?
Alright- you did it! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for you rigorous scholarship!
That tweet could be aimed at carnivores. Replace vegan with carnivore and it’s exactly the same… except we have vegan diet studies. There are no carnivore studies because it’s too dangerous 😂
Berberine is known to drop blood glucose, why would you take it if you’re already fasting? Seems like a great way to end up in an ambulance with hypoglycemia (which can k!ll you). Him promoting it is medical malpractice imo
But there is that one study all the carnivores cite with AMAZING health outcomes! it even has Harvard in the the title or something! (i think it aggregated facebook posts or something? lol)
Actually, there is, have you done your own research, or are you unconsciously selecting studies that support your lifestyle.
Meat eaters aren't biased, they hate every bite of steak, fish, chicken, egg and every sip of milk. They live in perpetual disgust and never look forward time. But that is the cost they pay for being non biased and only eating for pure nutritional requirements.
Great job Chris. Hopefully all these snake oil salesmen go out of business some day and are remembered as the bad ones of the story.
Chris, I would watch your whole long thing every day of the week.
P.s. I've always been curious what those 6 reasons were, thank you
That did NOT sound right 🤣😂😅
Fear not Chris. Best episode yet.
One of your first clips where Mike mentions “not having skin on the game” caused me to do a double-take and say “Whaaat?”
Great episode. I used to listen to Mike in my Paleo and Keto days, but since I don’t follow those dietary practices anymore I pass on his content most of the time.
Cris, your time spent with your grandchildren really paid off here-love the picture book version explaining blood lipids!
Awesome video! All of your videos are great and thank you for doing such a great job for the plant-based community! My husband and I absolutely love your channel!! 😊👍
Chris, I eat fresh ginger and turmeric, too. They are foods, not supplements.
Mike Mutzel always seemed shady to me.
Now I know my gut feeling was right.
Thanks!
He is just hot no more ideas to discuss or content but pick on one of the best content creators... The Plant Chompers.