Review Of: The Great Plant-Based CON!
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2023
- In this video @PlantChompers reviews the 2021 book 'The Great Plant-Based Con: Why Eating a Plants-Only Diet Won't Improve Your Health or Save the Planet'.
Is plant-based a con after all?
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Switching to WFPB reversed my Type 2 diabetes and saved my life. That’s a fact. 💖🦋
Same for my aunt. Reality is people (especially the West) need to open their eyes. It makes too much sense to me. 6 years vegan never felt so good!
Congrats! WFPB 5 years, I lost 50lbs and kept it off and it reversed some serious digestive issues I was having. This is the best way to live for us the animals and planet!
@@togrowagarden we need more people to stand up and speak before it is too late.
The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
@@northerncoloradotransparen1454 agreed
I’m gonna write a book-“Why Exercise is Bad for You”
I guarantee it’ll be a best seller.
Excellent idea.
I'll go for that.
Put his face on the cover.
😂 that's funny
Focus on football players and body builders who have extremely low life expectancy.
I saw a program, years ago, before youtube was really a thing and when the idea of living on a plant-based diet was just starting to gain enough traction to be addressed on a broader scale. The program told a story of a family that lived on a plant-based diet for several months and almost died. It was quite scary and convincing, they showed all of the medical problems they developed and the medications they had to take.
It was about half-way through the program that they mentioned that this family ate nothing but celery and canned tomato soup, for several months. The program framed it in a way that made it seem like this was what a plant-based diet was, that there was simply nothing else for them to eat - just celery and tomato soup out of a can. The family didn't go on the diet for either ethical or health reasons, they wanted to lose weight. The program made them out to be victims of vegan propaganda that lured them into the idea that a plant-based diet would help them lose weight, and they ended up with a bunch of deficiencies and illnesses.
I imagine a lot of the people who watched it didn't really question it, especially since they didn't want to question it, they just wanted to hear how bad a plant-based diet was, which allowed them to keep eating animal products and feel good about themselves. Somehow I doubt they'd have the same reaction if the program showed the dangers of a meat-eating diet by telling the story of a family that ate nothing but burger patties and sausages for months and ended up almost dying.
That's bollocks too. You can't die from eating meat. You're made of meat. It would never hurt you. The fact if people can survive on noting but meat. You can't live on nothing but vegetables. That is a fact. Plenty of people in this world live on animal products all their lives without ever eating vegetables. No one has ever survived without eating animal produce.
Ha ha ha only steak killed Dr. Shawn Baker professor Bart Kay, Jordan Peterson, whole tribes in Africa . Lol
Had a similar story in Sweden a couple of years ago where ”Vegan” parents was losing custody of their child due to the child being malnutrioned. However the child was only fed rice water (!)
I FINALLY got pregnant after YEARS of trying, 3 months after we both went WFPB. All blood levels were, and still are, perfect. Fully credit this diet, it is an absolute game changer. 12 years on, all 3 of us remain vegan and enjoy great health, even my 71 year old dad has come along for the ride and has lost 3 stone.
My husband is a 72 year old man recently cured of Hepatitis C and now with sclerosis of the liver (from the Hep C) and he's otherwise very healthy, feels great and taking absolutely no life supportive meds. I'm 68, also not taking any meds to keep me alive and we've been vegan for 15 years and before that, vegetarian for about 15 years. And our daughter, also a vegan for about 14 years, just gave birth to a healthy, full term, average size baby. He's 10 months old, is being fed a WFPB diet exclusively and he's bright, energetic and meeting all his growth and development markers right on schedule.
Methinks that Dr. Harmon and Jane are ignoring real facts about WFPB and animal inclusive diets, in order to hang on to their habits, traditions and to keep the meat industry happy. I wonder, did the meat industry fund them?
That's wonderful. Keep going strong and green
Yes, I believe at the end , or towards it, he points out that she and most others she quotes are meat industry financed
wfpb?
@@nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993 whole food plant based 💪
I surely hope he was breastfed!!
You know, the time-honored animal based food for human babies/toddlers (the latter in countries with iffy water, etc)
I went vegan because of what I witnessed in slaughterhouses.
Never heard of the word until about 9 years ago.
Since going mostly WFPB the benefits saw me lose asthma and lessen my allergies.
My energy level, clarity compared to eating animal products is night and day. An added bonus using ethics as a backbone 🌱
Even though it is deeply, deeply disturbing, I wish it was legal for people to look inside those places. It would change the world for the good, I think.
@@natalietannerblogger-theed9419 you are absolutely 💯 correct!
@@natalietannerblogger-theed9419 I agree!
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@@veganvocalist4782 💔💔💔
Doctors told me that I should take a pill everyday to prevent migraines . One doctor recommended a whole food plant based lifestyle . I’ve been vegan wfpb for 10 years and still going strong !
Where do you get your B12 and Omega 3 from please?
I had a couple severe migraines a month for years. Literally not one in 10 years since I went WFPB. It feels like a blessing and a miracle.
@Sally B I get my b12 (2500 mcg / week) from a supplement. It costs me -- brace yourself -- $10 a year. I get omega 3 from seeds -- flax, hemp, chia. Instead of oil, I use ground seeds (I wizz them in a coffee grinder) on my food. They are quite delicious, and the seeds have lots of other great nutrients too.
@Sally B Supplement for b12. You can get omega 3 from leafy greens, flaxseed, chia seed, pumpkin seeds, walnuts and tofu👍
@@SallyB-tc6gs Haha! That's sarcasm, right?
@@gregm8080 erm...no! On a vegan diet Im wondering where these essential nutrient are coming from
Eating a WFPB diet is amazing! Wonderful! Tasty! Healthy!
Agree 100%
My senior Pup is plant based too neither of us suffer with illness or disease and the energy, wow!
Sam Vimes watches! But he wasn't WFPB alas, CMOT Dibbler pies were too tempting.
The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
I’m with you on that. 10 years vegan, many decades whole food vegetarian before that.
Are you not worried about the toxins in vegetables? Oxalates? And what about all the sugar in fruit and veg. Are you not worried about consuming so much sugar? Where do you get your B12 from please? And your Omega 3?
Went whole food plant based from being just vegan because I'm poor 😅😅😭
How is it that if an individual causes harm or death they can be thrown into jail. Yet companies like the meat and dairy, the pharmaceutical industry, the fossil fuel industry and the military industrial complex are knowingly responsible for harming and killing millions of people with no consequences. What up with that?
The system and paradigm is largely psychopathic. It is also a reductionist, material world view which led to for example: bubble mentality, "nothing I do has any ramifications for the outside world", and to nature as being regarded as a subset of the economy and not the other way around.
Money!... it's all about the Benjamin's €£$€£$
look at the decades long fight with big tobacco
Capitalism. Everyone benefitting from that chain won't speak against it but try to spread it more.
My mom and I have marveled repeatedly as of late about people's attachment to food. I find people are more intense about their food than when I talk to them about vaccines! *sometimes* It's crazy how I am vegan propaganda in human form, but ad campaigns like 'got milk?' are no big deal. And I'm the brainwashed one....
Truth.
It reminds me of a quote from Earthling Ed (I think): “If you eat a dog you’re a psychopath, if you eat a pig you’re normal, and if you don’t eat any animals you’re an extremist”
@@ngd268 Exactly!
Yeah. But if people think they have facts, like meat eating is good, then they think it's not propaganda. To be fair, unfortunately, there's some vegans who shove vegan on others too much. But some meat eaters and businesses act the same too. On Goatis's yt description page he has a link selling anti-vegan clothes.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c literally everyone should strive to be a vegan so i don't see what's wrong with it.
Forcing definitely won't help much if ppl don't understand it themselves and no one can force you ,you do it for what veganism is about.
And veganism isn't about diet.
Feeling great and grateful on my WFPB diet and Vegan lifestyle! Great video! Ty!!!
Hey there Chris! I'm so glad this video has been reposted! You do such great work that everyone should know you!🎉
I went from long-time vegetarian (since 1991) to vegan in 2019 and the fibromyalgia pain I had suffered from for 10 years disappeared within a week. I can't believe I lost all those years and not one doctor told me that dairy causes i flammation. No I do all my own research and follow a healthy vegan diet.
Dairy is the worst food especially cheese, no surprise.
I am absolutely sure4 that you wouldn't have fibromyalgia from meat- it may have been something else in your diet that you gave up when you became vegan. Meat does not cause inflammation.
@@SallyB-tc6gs Yes, that's why she said Dairy caused her inflammation.
@@SallyB-tc6gs pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24284436/
absolutely
WFPB'd stopped my hubby from going on statins and normalized his Heme iron ( heme iron is only from animal products). His hair graying got darker and thicker.
I have severe RA when I eat meat or any dairy, I can’t move, it’s painful, ps oils are horrible..
Are you not worried about the toxins in vegetables? Oxalates? And what about all the sugar in fruit and veg. Are you not worried about consuming so much sugar? Where do you get your B12 from please? And your Omega 3?
Better blood flow to the head.
@@SallyB-tc6gs Can't tell if this is a serious comment or a joke. 😅
@@MS-sr6mj I was thinking the same thing!
Thanks again Chris. Keep up your analysis of all the science out there that can confuse the rest of us untrained nutritionally curious and rookie researchers. Keep up the great work my friend. Blessings, Your Canadian cousin, :) Brad
Mr Conman. Answer this questions please: Who sponsored Ancil Keys study? Didn’t he hide in small print deep inside his study-where most people would never find it- that dietary cholesterol did NOT NOT NOT contribute to heart disease? Didn’t JAMA or AMA finally come out in print and admit that dietary cholesterol DOEN NOT CONTRIBUTE TO HEART DISEASE?
No. Ancel Keys was right. Saturated fat and animal protein are the real enemy of health.
Why don't you actually read his study and find out?
No
After decades of 100% WFPB vegan diet, I switch to a 100% carnivore diet. I reversed and resolved all of my long term inflammatory health conditions.
I'm glad I woke up in time and didn't end up like an alarming number of vegans who are dying before their time, breaking bones and suffering from depression.
Our distant ancestors thrived on a animal predominant diet and so can we.
Now in my 70s, I am putting on muscle, recovering from sarcopenia which is so obvious all of the older vegan advocates.
Lol. People on plant based diets live longer, that's a fact. Our distant ancestors lived predominantly off a plant based diet because hunting and killing animals was an exhausting effort, while growing plants was easier and more abundant. The amount of meat people eat today is the most ever in history because billions of animals are being bred into existence solely to be killed. Animals have NEVER been killed for food today as they have been in the past.
Anything else you mentioned is anecdotal. But one thing is for sure, humans never lived off as much meat as people who are now pushing carnivore diets. Your diet is a fad diet, nothing more. Science backs the plant based diet and science wins every time.
@@veganking4757 Sorry but no.
Skeletal isotope ratios do not support your conclusion.
@@dwwolf4636This is true, but have you seen how lean wild animals are? We would've eaten lean meats without much saturated fat. And considering rabbit starvation exists because you can't derive enough energy to subsist on just protein, we did eat plants. Nuts, seeds, legumes, starchy fibrous roots, and more. Wars were fought among North American tribes over oak woodlands for the valuable food source that is acorns.
For the last 8 1|2 years I've eaten a plant based diet. Stayed off dialysis, kept my A1C a constant 5.6 and my weight in check. Won't go back to SAD!
PlantChompers is such an underrated channel
I don't care about health. I care about the ethics.
If you don't care about health you will end up a really bad example, and that will be bad for the ethics. Why not just care about both? It's not hard.
@@carinaekstrom1 I mean yeah health is also important but for me it's secondary
I know, me too- I am alarmed at how many animals, insects and birds that are killed when one field of corn is cut, are you?
@@SallyB-tc6gs Yes, especially since it's so unnecessary to feed that corn to animals that then get slaughtered in turn.
@@carinaekstrom1 I agree 100%
God I love your videos! This is the 3rd one I’ve seen and they are all so well researched and lighthearted. Bravo! Not easy to do!
Thank you so much. That is very kind of you to say!
But I read a book written by an endurance science nutritionist or so, that world class elite rich Kenyan marathoners only eat one match box sized meat per week!
And it's exclusively no meat at all for poor professional Kenyan marathoners!
It's only corns!
It's even smaller size of meat than the size suggested in Mediterranean countries LMAO
When I went vegan 5 years ago, I reversed heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension & my BMI dropped from 36 to 23 😊
I was diagnosed with atherosclerosis, after I had an angiogram, after suffering various symptoms relating to my heart. Within 6 months of being vegan I had reversed it, I was symptom free & able to come of the various heart medications I was on. I am not unique, many people have done the same as me by going vegan. For more information, I suggest you look up the work of the amazing plant based doctors, Dr Esslestyn, Dr Neil Barnard & Dr Michael Greger to name a few.
@Majestic Artimus See Dr. Caldwell B. Essylstyn’s book, “Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease,” first published in 2007. Natalie’s reversal of heart disease is wonderful, but certainly not a “world first!”
@@veganNat829 Sadly it's purely anecdotal yet again. Your reduction of pro-inflammatory carbs, refined sugars and pro-inflammatory vegetable oils from you stricter vegan diet is what greatly contributed to your health benefits by inhibiting the mechanism of inflammation, glycation, oxidation/LDL damage and atherosclerotic plaque formation leading to heart disease. I'll give you a brief breakdown of what the mechanisms is further below in a bit. Please read my comments above. I'm n a rush right now but i'll do my best to get back to you. What I mentioned above should still give you plenty of information to work on.
As a fellow clinical/research scientist myself, I know the work of the doctors you mentioned and can tell you that they have no scientific value In the unbiased and ethical professional community. Their research protocols, data interpretation is demonstrably unscientific and biased. Those clinicians are considered to be purely ideologues so I'm surprised you are following them.
Dr. Neil Barnard (he has what we would call "the vegan neck" due to his emaciated looks...that should tell you something) is the one who's particularly been on my radar for a while now. Those are not people I consider to be "health professionals" at all due to their lack of ethics, their blind adherence to their bias and their shocking lack of clinical knowledge. They are causing untold ham to others given their online reach and disinformation. We all know that about 50 percent or more of our knowledge becomes outdated by the time we leave university with any clinical qualification. We as health professionals as in other fields must constantly keep up to date with the progress that's constantly happening in science as our understanding improves.
Those clinicians you mentioned are stuck in the past from the unethical (and criminal) work of Ancel Keys and his publication that started the demonisation of animal based saturated fat in favour of plant based food and all the inflammatory carbs and sugars that comes with it. It has turned out to be a health disaster for the past few decades. That tells me that your research was poor. You looked only at what you wanted to see and what would further reinforce your bias. Yow owe it to yourself and those you love to do more unbiased research.
Well done, its too bad that only people who are already plant based will watch this video. I tell people who argue that I am killing myself with plant based eating that we will see how how things turn out for us in old age. I am now 67 and on no pharmaceuticals and riding my bicycle 60 miles a day vs my meat eating friends who are suffering from the standard old age conditions and taking meds for all their ailments.
I went vegan on February 28 2023 and my A1C levels went from 11.6 to 5.2 that tells me it’s working
let me guess you cut out all sugars and carbs or mostly right? bingo theres you problem
@@Themrine2013 no sugar bread or dairy just every morning and before bed I would drink green tea with lemon juice
Diabetes is based on carbohydrate intolerance, increased glucose, and insulin resistance. Removing carbs and sugar will get you those A1C results - way to go!! 👏🏻 But based on what you said you probably didn’t need to go vegan, just low-carb.
@@geminicls446
Diabetes isn't carbohydrate intolerance. Diabetes is fatty infiltration of the pancreas and other organs so that it doesn't work effectively. Losing weight by any means usually reverses diabetes. Even high carb low fat. Oil in general, but especially saturated and trans fats impair insulin sensitivity so the more oil, the more insulin needed to control blood sugar.
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Great video....as usual. Thanks for the information.
I bet how much junk food you eat is a better indicator of longevity than how much meat vs plants.
yep. to much sugar and carbs is what is killing people. when they took the fat out of food(something that is natural and needed for the body to function properly) they replaced it with,,,,,, you guessed it fucking SUGAR
The woman who starved her baby looks like the story I saw long ago. She only fed her child watermelon and iceberg lettuce. The baby looked like one of the starving children in Ethiopia.
I went plant based.. Low thyroid has improved, hip pain GONE, allergies almost non existent now, a numb spot on leg by the knee area GONE, strange lumps over rub cage area.. GONE, regular heart burn GONE, stomach pain GONE, fatty liver pain.... GONE. went gluten free 90-95% of the time. High cholesterol lowered... Inflammation markers lowered... Sugar blood level lowered!!! Vitamin D and other needed vitamins and minerals are where they should be! Now I don't have to worry about vit B 12 problems when I get a little older as I take them now....
almost like cutting out carbs and sugar fixed the problem
@@Themrine2013 not only that.. The nutrition in fruits, vegetables, grains, legumes... And superfoods...is absolutely gobsmacking amazing for the body.
@@Themrine2013 for just one example... Eating a grapefruit a day actually gets rid of the calcified build up in the arteries.. Must do so for about a year or so. Don't take calcium supplements as they are not good for us. There is much to all this. Get your calcium from dark greens.and they are high in k2 which k2 helps decalcify the arteries as well.. The list goes on and on...
Very informative. Thank you for posting this and for doing all the background work to make it possible.
I keep getting this book recommended when I’m looking for vegan cookbooks. So I’m glad to see this!
And I heard my colleague told about her own story when she went for the so-called animal based keto diet, her haemoglobin level dropped drastically when she ditched large percentage of the grain especially rice.
She felt so miserable and at last she went back to her usual traditional diet which calls for rice as main portion of daily diet, her haemoglobin level just went up to the normal level LOL
And I saw people with 2.++ g/dL super low haemoglobin level and I did asked out of my curiosity what the patient ate, she told me that she ate exclusively chicken, no rice LOL
Another harmful animal based ketogenic diet =/
Thanks for the info.
Yet again I'm amazed and grateful for your super-human explanatory super-powers!
You are amazing sir thank you for putting this video together
I so appreciate the follow-up of who people actually are, what they have said in the past and what their credentials are - not just how the look at first glance. This shows you can sift the true from the false. You’ve given me hope there is a point to this debate.
Thank you for this superb debunking!! ✨️💖✨️
Book looks good thanks for promoting it 😂
Thank you PLN for providing a platform for this brilliant man to share the truth!
I’m a meat-eater and I found this really interesting
great information - thank you
I am glad I quit school at 16, because all these scientist sounds so confusing. It's as though all that studying, is causing a type of alzymers. I feel like I am much smarter. My favorite Dr is Fuhrman he makes sense, and you can read between the lines as to what he says.
I use to listen to Dr John McDougall, but he is insisting on being starchovoures, even though diabetics know you cannot have a plate of starchy foods without your sugar hitting the roof. I think going into my 78 th year wit no medication other than a B12, I will stick to my way
After insulin sensivity is reached with WFPBD (takes a week or two) even starchy foods don't raise blood sugar levels high. I've seen this with my patients. Listen Mastering Diabetes podcast. 👍
Yes..I saw Dr. MCdougal recently after not seeing him since the late 90s. I think he may be struggling with age related challenges. Kinda kooky sounding.
Don't even need to refer to the science. WFPB makes me feel about 20 years younger, sleep better, etc,, etc. I have energy from start to finish each day.
Interesting review. Thanks!
I went on a high fat diet of eggs, butter, meats, fish, cheeses and my lipids all improved. Resting pulse and blood pressure lowered. No highly processed foods or oils. Salads without high lectins plants. Probiotics fermented plants and dairy. Practice Keto OMAD most days with slightly higher carbs meals two to three days along an additional brunch. Exercise 6-7 days. Lost all😅 excess weight. If it works for you that is the most important.
The environmental effects of going vegetarian is way over blown. Few people realize that the earth had mega herds of ruminates until man over populated the earth and slaughtered them.
70% of the worlds farmed food comes from small scale farms.
If your diet works for you then great. If you want to save the world then the best thing we humans can do is not reproduce
Not all ruminants are created equal or have the same impact on their environment. Especially Bisons and cattle are not interchangeable
@@ludicrousone8706 yes they are.
@@Themrine2013 No, they're not
Thing is, you'd have had all those markers improve, and ApoB probably moreso, by losing that weight with any other diet method. Even the guy eating just McDonald's meals and losing 50lbs in 100 days significantly improved all his markers. And that includes the sugary bun, sugar drink, fatty meat, and fries..
Look into what types of diets the longest lived populations eat, like the 7th day Adventists, traditional Japanese and Mediterranean areas..
How does one explain a married couple of 50 years, one dies at 76 and the other lives to 98? Same meals were eaten. There are more factors that need to be taken into consideration than just what is eaten.
(PART 2) The claims that "veganism is healthier" is purely based on emotions and blind ideology from my scientific expertise and extensive observation of people on vegan diets. As an example, the vegan who died recently (Zhanna Samsonova) among many others also claimed they were very "healthy and thriving" in spite of the fact that were in a complete catabolic state and completely emaciated up until their demise. You don't need to go to that extreme to be unhealthy though. The other extreme is those with metabolic health, obesity, inflammation (pro cancerous), chronic disease, autoimmune disease, IBD/IBS etc with the onset of insulin resistance from excessive carbohydrate heavy nutrition (vegetarianism/veganism). So what vegans consider "healthy" is purely subjective. I continue to see this everyday. Bring forth your lab work and your facts. Veganism without artificial supplementation (which is the privilege of the modern societies) is incompatible with "good health" as defined by unbiased science. Those vegan fitness influencers for example do supplement themselves and are much more active than most to burn off the excess carbs they take.
Plants also contains anti nutrients as a defence mechanism such as phytates, lectins and oxalates among many other known carcinogens and other LDL damaging molecules such as plant sterols. Those are what actually contribute to the formation of atherosclerotic plaque btw. Carbohydrates/refined sugars/fructose are also heavily involved in systemic inflammation, mitochondrial damage and eventually cancer through direct glycation (we all know diabetics with raised blood sugar have damaged blood vessels that leads to amputations and renal/organs failure...pure facts), excessive production of ROS (oxidative damage to DNA and cells organelles from free radicals) and a cascade of inflammatory response from the immune system and cytokines. I'll do a more targeted summary about that later on and provide a mini lecture to the owner of this channel on one of his recent videos if I can so I increase my chances of him catching them as I'd like to see his scientific response to it. That should give me an idea about his credentials, academics and credibility.
Be advised that the peer review, the research and publication industry has gone completely corrupt due to funding opportunities and profit. They'll churn out any poorly carried out research for prestige, reputation, career progression and money. I KNOW this to be a fact as I'm part of that system and see things from the inside. I have refused career advancements in the name of my principles for instance. If you follow the program, you advance. If you are a voice of dissidence against corruption, nepotism, unethical research data and manipulation and profit and refuse to follow the program, you don't advance and remain a number in your job and the industry. You need a certain level of expertise to be able to properly interpret research data and the statistical tools used, simple examples being mismatch of relative/absolute risk, what population was used to establish the research and conclusions (diseased vs healthy), what was the run-in period (e.g. the statin research got rid of all those suffering from serious adverse effect prior of actually starting the trial with only those showing resistance to the drug therefore falsely demonstration reduced side effects)...and those are very simple examples. I won't even talk about the more complex manipulative tactics used in presenting research data in favour of a particular "desired conclusion".
The big food industry comprising of Agriculture (vegetables, flour, snacks, pastries etc), the processed food industry (fake meat, all processed canned/packaged food, fake milk like soy, almond etc), the sugar industry (Kellogg, Unilever, Pepsico, Coca-cola etc), the pharmaceutical industry (who are tightly linked to all the pro-vegetarian/vegan industries I just listed) and all the world governments (who are also tightly linked to everything pro-pharmaceutical and pro-vegetarian/vegan as they get funding from them) surpasses the "farmers/meat industry" by orders of magnitude. There is bad farming for sure and that need to change I agree. But the two are actually not even comparable. The pharmaceutical/medical publication industry alone surpasses the 3 major big tech companies put together. Big pharma supports vegetarianism/veganism as it loves the propagation of "chronic disease". It's a partnership that has been working for decades now. Chronic disease is the bread and butter of the pharmaceuticals. Do you actually know how clinical research is done and medication brought on the market? Do you know the whole story of how statins came to be designed from it's failed precursors approved and put on the market for example?
Your question about the farming industry funding anyone is therefore completely nonsensical. You should have a look at how much cash the pro-vegetarian industries is giving away to governments around the world and you'll start seeing a completely different "truth".
I also suggest you have a look at the channel "Low Carb Down Under" and you'll see what REAL SCIENTISTS WITH INTEGRITY looks like. Evidence based science and facts takes precedence over IDEOLOGY. If an ideology or an hypothesis can be supported by unbiased, demonstrable and reproducible scientific facts, then that ceases to be an ideology and becomes part of our known truth. It is in that context that I say that veganism isn't healthy. Even if it's a choice that everyone has the right to make, It never was and never will be healthy. I can explain this in details at the biochemical and molecular level another time.The point is INFORMED CONSENT. People need to be aware of what they are getting into and what they could be subjecting their loved ones to. That's all.
They don't own the whole truth on this channel of course but as I said before, they are closer to the truth than most and are at least ready to acknowledge their mistakes from what I've seen so far.
Intense
Glad your around. Someone has to say what needs to be said, and I would have to spend day's putting together what you have clearly committed to memory.
I see you've been falling for the propaganda. I suggest you actually read the studies from both sides and make an informed decision instead of listening to an echo chamber of the same comments.
Chris, your biggest problem is that there are many, many people who do not understand irony…. Which you use a lot of. Also, that you speak too quickly for most of the YT viewer base and give a lot of info in a short time. I would so like to see your work presented in chunks, where separate ideas are presented one at a time…. What you have to say is so important and it needs to get out to a wider audience (most of whom seem to need to have concepts brought down to basic snippets / sound bites). Quite bluntly it seems that even people with doctorates these days seem to not know how to analyse/ be objective about what they hear/read!
is there nutritional analysis software I can get my hands on or have they all disappeared
brilliant!
I have a good friend that is doing the vegan lifestyle and he has lost 50 pounds, I have done the same thing with eating a more carnivore lifestyle. Each person is different, we can all agree that the standard American diet is terrible, I stopped eating carbs and sugar, it has helped me improve my quality of life. Find out what works best for you and change your lifestyle.
Claiming that big pharma is in on plant-based diets is probably the funniest thing I've heard this year
Thanks for this.
A colleague mentioned this book to me. He said he'd been listening to the audio version and was moved by it.
I wondered if I should read it to exercise my open-mindedness, even I had to pay for a copy (because I can't find it in the libraries), or if I'd just be wasting my time (and money).
I've read (and re-read) so many books in my lifetime that run counter to a WFPB, plant-strong, or low-fat vegan lifestyle, and I've tried those methods and diets, and none of them were sustainable.
Switching (more like unlearning and journeying) to a plant-based lifestyle (in 2017) has done so much to reverse my illnesses and improve my health and well being, I don't think any book like this could persuade me to do otherwise.
Why would I want to go back to the misery I felt (and ate)?
I know I'm in a minority now by eating this way, but I can't deny how good I feel about how I live, what I eat, and its effect on the world.
Two quotes/sayings come to mind. "Misery loves company." I can't help but think that some fans of this book may also be aggressive proponents of the standard American diet, which is slowly killing them early and painfully. I also think of what Dr. John McDougall often says, "We love to hear good news about our bad habits."
If it's tied to money, it can't be the truth.
In the comparison studies at the beginning, none look at a meat based diet. It's just regular plant/carbs based diets containing more or less meat. Correlation not causation. Saturated fat is misleading in my opinion too and there is a difference between animal fat and plant fat. I've been vegetarian for a few years, I was reducing meat consumption to a minimum before that. I am now carnivore (very low carb) and never felt so good. I thought I was healthy and in good physical condition, I was not in comparison to now. Keto and carnivore diets reduce overall inflammation, can reverse diabetes, can reverse atherosclerosis, make belly fat melt, increase your overall energy...How could this be unhealthy? The question is not should we include more or less meat in our plant/carb based diets, the question is why should we eat plants that did not exist a few hundred (thousands maybe) years ago and that we did not evolve to eat.
You seem to just eat fad diets. By eating just meat then you are not supporting your gut biome. Studies show that fiber plus probiotic fermented foods support important enzymes and bacteria that your digestive system needs to break down foods. Without them inflammation will cause other problems down the road. Check out Dr Christopher Garner PHD research scientist, Dr Pradig Jamnadas cardiologist and Dr Sten Exberg.
@@cycleoflife7331 yeha and 99% of those studies are bullshit
I would say the same thing about meat. Ginseng being humans we've been breeding plants and animals alike to be more calorie dense. Bison have like a tenth the fat of beef cattle. Deer even less. Rabbits so little you can starve by eating them no matter how much you eat.
North American natives had wars over oak woodlands for the plentiful source of food that was acorns. Starchy food.
You are pointing to a recent time in human evolution (a few thousands of years), after widespread agriculture. Hominids have evolved for almost 4 million years as carnivores AND Apex predators (stable isotopes evidences) before that. There is evidences also that we started scavenging the brains (high fat) of dead animals. So enough fat in large ruminants and fishes, present and past, to be sustainable. I doubt carnivore humans would have relied solely on small game like rabbit to survive. Meat is meat in it's essence and you may fatten the beast, it doesn't change it's essence. Every vegetable we eat today, did not exist as is a few hundred/thousand years ago. It was either not nutritive enough, too toxic, to scarce. We just did not evolve eating that thing. How could it be our species appropriate diet if we did not evolve eating it? Watch some seasons of the show "Alone" and see how good well trained survivalists do on gathering. Then compare it to the absolute boost in morale, energy and stamina they get when they finally eat some fatty meat. What you eat is your choice but animal breeding is nothing like what we did with "edible" plants. @@mikafoxx2717
Lol, people will talk shit about a WFPB diet till the cows come home :)
Thanks
seems like the dirt trilogy should be revisited, after the traffic fatalities 2* to the dust cloud in the Midwest last week
I look for him every time I come to this channel. Is there a place I can see more of him? Or maybe just have him on more often.
He has a channel called plant chompers
There is so much excellent rebuttal in this video that it is hard to recall all of it. But I think the part that left its biggest imprint was the clarification of what the Oxford scientist, Myles Allen, actually said and in its proper context. The limited citations of his work and statements from Jayne Buxton and others does indeed require rebuttals and clarifications like this!!
But that also goes for those who keep citing methane emissions without also mentioning the decay factor that dampens methane’s deleterious effect, including even otherwise excellent documentaries like EATING OUR WAY TO EXTINCTION.
The overall context that is revealed in your video(s) is just beyond anything that I have seen before. 10 stars out of 5!
First time I hear of this book. Might have to read it now.
The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
Would love videos on how pesticides, even DDT, are found to be stored in animal fat and on AMR due to aquaculture. Thanks as always for a great video and all the hard work that went into making it.
Incredible that pesticides are used to grow crops, there is no need for it in grass fed cows
So who's eating more chemicals?
Someone here mentioned they switched to meat because they have arthritis. I’m doing the opposite I’m slowly switching to a Whole Foods Plant Based diet due to inflammation and arthritis! There needs to be a balance and eat all types of the available nutritious plants, fruit, seeds, and grains. No processed stuff that includes processed fake meat and processed vegan “foods”, and processed regular non foods. NOT easy to do but do what you can. I’m doing what I can for my personal needs. I’m doing it for me, and I’m feeling better.
My inflammation markers plummeted after 3 mo WFPB
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Chris you are a beacon of light! Can you get some of Gil and Simon back on too? Can you please interview Roch Roll?
Keep shedding more light on the TRUTH.
Let's Go Vegan and Vegetarian Family..... to your body and heart Health !
I do body program, use to following diet exams and now I would to said please eat more vegetables and less meat. Chicken or beef and fork do good for flavor soup. I had herpes and yeast in my body and bad smell .it all gone.less sugar, less salt and less alcohol drink, do yoga and exercise. Do healthy life. I'm Asian and I can't afford a medicine or supplement. But now I'm fine without them.....!!!do healthy life and don't forget chicken do for soup ❤❤❤
The unasked question here is: "Who should we eat?"
Carnists repeatedly crumble when pressured under the ethical angle (the health benefits of vegan diets is secondary to veganism and should never take priority over ethics, lest one is prepared to unironically back painfully atrocious position)
I am WFPB. Most of my friends consume meat, potatoes and processed foods. They respect my food choices but wonder when I will start suffering from malnutrition. It is not worth the friendships to get into debates with them. Some are keto. My bottom line is - do what works for you. WFPB works for me.
Don't worry it will happen and you be back to eating steak and eggs
I love how they say meat, not animal flesh/ tissue. Call is what it is!
Did I hear you imply, in another video, that saturated fat from cocao (dark chocolate) is not as bad as other forms of saturated fat? If so, why would that be? thanks for your work!
Stearic acid ain't as inflammatory as palmitic acid found in dairy, meat and palm oil.
eat the rich, live for eternity
Dr. Ken Berry knows that meat is king.
"This is just propaganda"
Thanks for admitting it yourself
I think that folks also need to understand that just getting rid of the animal products is only part of the story. I've been vegan since 2017 and I've had some wonderful health outcomes, but to keep my symptoms at bay I need to stay really clean. When I let the vegan junk food back in the symptoms come back, it's not just eliminating animal products. If folks want to go vegan for ethical or environmental reasons that's wonderful. But if better health outcomes are the goal then a wide variety of whole unprocessed plant foods, little to no oil, little to no sugar and salt, lots of leafy greens, plenty of raw veggies, flax and/or chia for plant based omega 3 are all required for best results. Not everyone is willing to do this. I think when we are promoting a vegan diet and we talk about better health outcomes we need to be specific.
To my advice never listen to anyone just listen to your body , I been 3 years vegan now I'm very happy and never go back , but I had friend he go vegan he get sick so my point of view just listen to your body ,to which diet it fit for your body
Erm right.
I see what you're going.
I would suggest that your friend's first stop isn't meat to magically cure his sickness but instead he should consult a Nutritionist.
0.5 oz of meat per day? 14 grams, how is that even comparable to having the majority of your diet being meat?
The big battle against confusion and misinformation.
Until everyone gets on the same page (page 1 - Humans are herbivores) then we have huge problems.
I don’t understand why people can’t see that humans are herbivores
@@oscarcat1231 C'mon, don't be dumb. They're omnivores. But of course they can just eat plants if they need to or just want to.
@@donwinston I’m not dumb. We are herbivores if not frugivore.
@@oscarcat1231 No we're not. Rejecting scientifically proven facts is dumb. If you genuinely believe that then you are indeed "dumb".
@@oscarcat1231 If we were herbivores we could digest gras and we would have several stomachs. Fruits, leaves and tubers are far more likely, but I can't find a term for it.
It took you a year, to understand 7 country study? How? It should take few hours. You didnt do it your self, you only read the finished study, so how in the hell would that take a year to understand?
Yes
I like what George Carlin had to say about Saving the Planet.
Meat and dairy are absolutely necessary to sustain- BIG PHARMA.
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including all the antibiotics needed in animal agriculture
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People don't have the time or inclination to understand anything beyond their own little specialties.
What is a WFPB diet?
Whole food plant based
@flimphister....thank you so very much for your response. That is what I am on and did not know it. No meat, dairy, eggs, or fish.
I think you are the guy who compares people who what major health problems with healthy vegetarians to prove about longevity
You are only wrong in one thing. Her intentions are not good.
Correction, your intentions are not good.
It’s all about metabolic health whether carnivore or vegan. Seed oils, eating too often is the problem.
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Fantastic video 🌱 Helped to clear up a lot of animal ag propaganda/marketing
Most foods are fortified animals are fortified and medicated before they are killed, long shelf life foods are fortified non-plant based & plant based.
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The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
That might be in America but not the rest of the world. We live in a natural world. You live a poisoned life anyway.
Could you please do a bloodwork and show us the result, to back up your arguments????
Open Hearted vs Hard Hearted thats what matters. ♥️🙏 dietary and ethical.
Carnivore is the optimal human diet
veganism is best for everything, it heal your body and soul.
no its not
It's when people say things like what you just said that they set their jaw and refuse to engage in healthy and productive discussion like grown-ups. Like it or not, you are an animal. You do not exist outside the animal kingdom. You are a part of it. The proper diet of a human being, is, and will always be, determined by science, not ideological fairy tale ethics or personal moralities of one individual, regardless of how profound you believe your take on the subject to be. The massive Food Inc. machine has been saying whatever it has to say to promote the machine. The motivation is not our well-being. It is profit driven. It is unsustainable. It is killing us. It is killing this planet. Not however, in the way's you think it is. Toxicity is the problem. CO2 is not TOXIC. It is the magic elixir that gave rise to all life on this planet. Chemicals plastics RF and microwave saturation, dead soil, polluted water, wasted energy, yes, WASTED energy. Why do you think there are laws that prevent a home from being less than so many square feet? Why do you think we haven't been building energy efficient homes for the last hundred years? because we didn't know how? Think again. To keep us all on the Teet of fossil fuels. You think cars couldn't be getting 100 - 150 miles a gallon? Just those two things, could reduce energy expenditure by 70% Why is it that given the nature of the problem, the law isn't restricting the size of homes? Requiring all homes to be energy efficient? Rather than wasteful by design? To line the pockets of big oil. We have this great movement in the world, this last generation has figured it out. We saw our parents and grandparents' slaves to a never-ending mortgage. So the Tiny House movement came to be. Most today would prefer a small modest home. A home that could be paid off and no longer a chain around our necks. What has the Government done? Everything they can possibly think of to prevent people from downsizing. To make it really really hard to do. Why? Control. If people are as a rule, chained to their home, they are easier to handle.
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Love the shirt! lol
Since most of the studies you quoted are 'linked' and 'associations' what do you think of the french paradox - or should i say the european paradox where the higher intake of saturated fat the lower rate of CVD? Or the Hong Kong paradox where the place with the highest meat consumbtion live the longest? And the Blue Zones paradox - where the blue zones don't actually have that high life expetancy compares to france, Hong Kong or even the bigger countries they reside in?