Vince Staples Dark Times: An Existential Nightmare

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  • @kazmaloop
    @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +133

    For the OGs: If you were here for the first Vince Staples video like this comment!

    • @Haarunh2
      @Haarunh2 7 місяців тому +1

      Here

    • @lhuss99
      @lhuss99 7 місяців тому +2

      You know we here 💯

    • @Yinkv
      @Yinkv 7 місяців тому +1

      Glad you made another one

    • @tobiasash9281
      @tobiasash9281 6 місяців тому +1

      I been here since the beginning of his career, so you get a stray like

  • @richykamtcheu3551
    @richykamtcheu3551 7 місяців тому +174

    "If we are going to be voyeurs...the least we can do is make eye contact" WOW

    • @felixmk1715
      @felixmk1715 7 місяців тому +7

      This is such a good explanation of what makes Vince's music different than other rappers that "seem" similar. Ever since that bar about rapping the N word out in france for white people "Goin' crazy, got me goin' crazy, I can't get wit' that/Wonder if they know, I know they won't go where we kick it at?"

    • @csmiller12
      @csmiller12 7 місяців тому +2

      That was some real shit

  • @SeanLKearns
    @SeanLKearns 7 місяців тому +113

    Thank you for giving Vince shine. Kendrick does not have to be the only conscious street poet.

  • @Tigercam24
    @Tigercam24 7 місяців тому +39

    @20:00 My understanding of "Justin" is that she her bf came home and she introduced Vince as her lil cousin to the boyfriend. That's why he says afterward that "Women lie a lot." Im almost sure she wasnt calling Vince "Baby"

  • @VenusianLissette
    @VenusianLissette 7 місяців тому +48

    emptiness is a weird demon to fight, because it’s more akin to a ghost, it feels like something that clings, and doesn’t give any comfort. it’s weird how that works.
    &
    the vince staples show really shines. it feels like the inverse of Atlanta (Glover’s show), where instead of getting abused/demeaned (as Paperboy does) &/or going too fantastical; it hits a sweet spot of “i’m just a person who happens to be an artist” & “i will not allow anyone to use or play with me because i got some $$$/clout”, blended with irl observations/solid jokes. sublime stuff, and i’m grateful you included it.
    thank you.

  • @chinortega3
    @chinortega3 7 місяців тому +61

    I like how you used the show to elaborate as well

  • @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb
    @BacchusAurelius-yj4mb 6 місяців тому +10

    Vince has been in my top 3 since his self titled. Absolutely underrated lyricist. Dark Times is my album of the year so far.

  • @vantageva
    @vantageva 7 місяців тому +36

    The last video you did on Vince made me a fan of yours, i know this gonna be a good one. Dark Times is so good.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +1

      Appreciate it, thank you!

  • @Haarunh2
    @Haarunh2 7 місяців тому +13

    What a video man. What a video. Vince staples really an interesting guy the more you pay attention to what he’s trying to say. Think you conveyed that super well

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому

      Appreciate this, thank you

  • @spartan117q13
    @spartan117q13 7 місяців тому +18

    Wow really amazing video. Your ability to bring together the story of each of Vinces album alongside the clips from interviews and his show and performances is incredible. Vince staples is one of the most thoughtful artists out there and you analyzed and a displayed his media in a way im sure he would appreciate.

  • @dontmindme4197
    @dontmindme4197 7 місяців тому +8

    If you listen to his music it’s really for his homies all the most of the songs on this albums is stuff his homies can play and feel some type of way

  • @henrichoi749
    @henrichoi749 7 місяців тому +6

    My favorite album of the last few years has been Vince Staples' self titled, got me through a tough time. Your first Vince video brought my love of Vince's music to another level. Thank you for this new one, hoping this explodes because you deserve so much praise man

    • @Bluefavcolor
      @Bluefavcolor 5 місяців тому

      Self titled helped me a lot too. A true masterpiece

  • @Hollywood42081
    @Hollywood42081 7 місяців тому +6

    Mac saw how talented Vince was before anyone else.

  • @shoryqwabe4605
    @shoryqwabe4605 7 місяців тому +6

    i just got this video recommended and it's been a wonderful introduction to your channel. When you spoke about how "the courtesy given to strangers = losing out on vulnerability", that was a brilliant statement.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому

      Welcome to the channel and appreciate the kind words!

  • @NIGEL341Hilasd
    @NIGEL341Hilasd 7 місяців тому +14

    Incredible analysis of Vince’s work. Thank you so much

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому

      appreciate this, thank you

  • @timtalks6080
    @timtalks6080 6 місяців тому +7

    Pretty sure the meaning of Justin was that Vince was the “cousin” and she was going to cheat on her actual man with Vince before he got home unexpectedly

    • @timtalks6080
      @timtalks6080 6 місяців тому +1

      Great video overall though!

  • @4nth
    @4nth 7 місяців тому +4

    this video was so good. clip at the end is the perfect ending

  • @AIJ.productions1
    @AIJ.productions1 6 місяців тому +4

    His last three projects been phenomenal

  • @SavingSoulsMinistries
    @SavingSoulsMinistries 2 місяці тому +1

    Dude is a sad occultist. A tale as old as time

  • @solacesora
    @solacesora 6 місяців тому +4

    I just realized you changed the title 3 times

  • @smoochi3wallac35
    @smoochi3wallac35 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing analysis! I couldn’t really digest the whole album in its entirety on my own but your video definitely shined a light on things I would’ve never got. 👏🏽👏🏽

  • @lhuss99
    @lhuss99 7 місяців тому +10

    Bro this video was a masterpiece! A much deeper and darker perspective on the growth of Vince and subtleties in his already wild body of work- can’t help but think what’s next for his career, and why he might feel compelled to tell his story in yet a different way if the reaction from the audience is anticipated and predictable. 10/10 analysis bruv 💯🔥

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому

      means a lot, thank you

  • @rachidsylla9655
    @rachidsylla9655 7 місяців тому +6

    Super insightful and just another banger by kazama loop 😊

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +1

      Much appreciated, thank you

  • @jaganshi
    @jaganshi 7 місяців тому +1

    Helpful video, thank you man and thanks Vince. Big love

  • @KashFlow24G
    @KashFlow24G 7 місяців тому +3

    On “government cheese when he’s says “not now” idk if he means to actually smile or wait for all that shit

  • @Alex-vm6ef
    @Alex-vm6ef 7 місяців тому +4

    Top tier video bro

  • @TheRogueSymphony
    @TheRogueSymphony Місяць тому

    The audio snippet of the mother talking about him not becoming a monster is the mother of Monster Kody, an old gangbanger that eventually writes a book in jail, who Vince has a alluded to back on Ramona Park Broke My Heart

  • @jesseherrera642
    @jesseherrera642 7 місяців тому +2

    that white son and mom rapping along was perfect timing to this video and it cracked me up

    • @Haarunh2
      @Haarunh2 7 місяців тому +1

      Fr man that part was odd and hilarious at the same time

  • @miles8960
    @miles8960 7 місяців тому +1

    beautiful work, this album and vince deserved a well made video (and much more) u were definitely able to deliver

  • @TheTriangleOffense47
    @TheTriangleOffense47 7 місяців тому +3

    1:36 Also recalling the cover of one of his early mixtapes, Shyne Coldchain. Which has a noose

  • @lithamoshoeshoe4641
    @lithamoshoeshoe4641 7 місяців тому +2

    What a deep dive! This is world-class work and attention to detail. I cant imagine how many hours or days of editing and writing this was but it was worth it for such an immaculate video.🙌

  • @SoulofPimpC
    @SoulofPimpC 7 місяців тому +4

    I believe that was Monster Kody's mother speaking on Ramona Park.

  • @lenanicole2837
    @lenanicole2837 7 місяців тому +2

    6:17 damn it's giving Office Space (1999) Mike Judge, if you know you know XD cool in the car but when the black dude selling flowers comes by lock your doors

  • @Magdalena8008s
    @Magdalena8008s 7 місяців тому +1

    I would be so happy. And so many others who have begged content creators to make a video essay on El-P. Rap/production legend. His lyrics are spectacular. And has been an integral part of the ungrounded rap scene. Who late in life sought mainstream success with Run the Jewels while not loosing any bit of what made EL-P, El-P. Along with the copious amount of rappers he introduced the world go. Aesop Rock being one.
    And, potentially an Aesop Rock essay.

  • @BlaccGoku
    @BlaccGoku Місяць тому

    9:20 i remember hearing her say that and thinking i just dont agree but just couldnt understand why

  • @MrHibachi21
    @MrHibachi21 7 місяців тому +1

    This was fantastic bravo bro !

  • @fentanyljones6956
    @fentanyljones6956 7 місяців тому

    This album is possibly the best ‘polish off a label commitment’ album ever. His last 3 are all top 5 albums in their given release year.

  • @sfeedz
    @sfeedz 7 місяців тому +1

    this vids up there for suree🙌🏾🔥

  • @AtomiccMuffin
    @AtomiccMuffin 7 місяців тому +1

    Great analysis 🔎

  • @silentsigher
    @silentsigher 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video

  • @SanchoThugging
    @SanchoThugging 7 місяців тому +3

    “Nate” was on Shyne Coldchain vol.2. Not the Stolen Youth tape

  • @Bluefavcolor
    @Bluefavcolor 5 місяців тому +1

    In the ghetto I’m a Martian. Crash landing

  • @zaynabmohamed130
    @zaynabmohamed130 7 місяців тому +1

    I Love this video is Amazing keep it good work man

  • @Demsky83
    @Demsky83 7 місяців тому +1

    5:13 A regression? Nah Eggman, this one’s a classic.

  • @zahkilovett
    @zahkilovett 7 місяців тому +1

    amazing breakdown

  • @POPULISTMAGAZINE
    @POPULISTMAGAZINE 7 місяців тому +2

    This made me sick, in a beautiful heartfelt way

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +1

      appreciate this

  • @anglelol7s
    @anglelol7s 7 місяців тому +2

    Bobthepoppop mentioned 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

  • @aleksisuuronen5969
    @aleksisuuronen5969 6 місяців тому +1

    I think the Justin thing is just that ok they are vibing and getting along, it is going really well. Theb for JUST doorbell ringing suddenly there is a gun and an athmosphere of a violence which is ofc shocking, unknown, odd, new to the woman and making her think that who is this guy. Is he dangerous? Are we in danger? Then it's just his cousin and he's bugging out, which is the huge cascade between them in understanding that comes apparent in the moment even tho "the threat" turns out to be nothing.

    • @GeneralHadj
      @GeneralHadj 5 місяців тому

      Nah, Justin was the guy she was fxcking

  • @mellowferal5880
    @mellowferal5880 7 місяців тому +2

    Sheessh ❤

  • @YonatanSimie
    @YonatanSimie 7 місяців тому +2

    Not to be that one guy but im pretty sure his favorite album is below the heavens. great vid tho enjoyed it

  • @a27d5
    @a27d5 7 місяців тому +4

    Can we get a voir dire breakdown?

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +2

      Earl's on the list so his work will be covered in an essay at some point. Appreciate the suggestion and thanks for staying tuned!

  • @Shuvon95
    @Shuvon95 7 місяців тому +5

    I like Vince as a person. The music too slow and not enough for me. Could convey his message better but I get the whole monotone sound and boring flows and beats.

    • @felixmk1715
      @felixmk1715 7 місяців тому +2

      You could go back and try the 2015 stuff - Blue Suede, Mamacita, etc

    • @Shuvon95
      @Shuvon95 7 місяців тому

      @@felixmk1715 don’t like doing artist like that. That’s when he was at a low point in his life and to ask for that type of music is kind of fucked up. Plus I don’t live that life.

    • @ZestyKrisps
      @ZestyKrisps 7 місяців тому

      Youre looking for a rap artist. Thats not Vince. Hes like Kendrick. Youre gonna have to think and look beyond "rap songs" to appreciate it. Gotta grow man.

    • @Shuvon95
      @Shuvon95 7 місяців тому

      @@ZestyKrisps he’s not like Kendrick. Kendrick can actually rap

    • @ZestyKrisps
      @ZestyKrisps 7 місяців тому

      @@Shuvon95 youre right. Im burning my vince cassettes right now. Thanks for looking out homie

  • @queendism
    @queendism 7 місяців тому +2

    wait wym James Baldwin is R&B? and then the traditional black culture in parentheses?

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +1

      Good question, it's a reflection on how Vince describes "good men" as like James Baldwin. And his description of that era of traditional black values as "Rhythm and blues" in his song Radio.

  • @xAntoIRL
    @xAntoIRL 7 місяців тому +1

    Don't listen to these music critics online

  • @ZestyKrisps
    @ZestyKrisps 7 місяців тому +2

    You cant put the "rapper" hat on Vince. Hes an artists with a vocabulary and something to say.

  • @uhwaykin
    @uhwaykin 7 місяців тому +2

    Vince is not a nihilist. I don’t disagree with a lot of your observations about Vince and his brilliance, but the premise is fundamentally false. Either you misunderstand nihilism, you misunderstand Vince, or both.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +7

      🎶 nothing really matters at all 🎶

    • @uhwaykin
      @uhwaykin 7 місяців тому +1

      @@kazmaloop is a profound oversimplification of nihilism, but go off I guess.

    • @kazmaloop
      @kazmaloop  7 місяців тому +4

      Just joking but I go into more depth in that premise in my other Vince video which might add some context. I think his subject matter is nihilistic, but liken Staples to Nietzsches “ubermensche” who comes out the other side of the abyss.

    • @somekid7
      @somekid7 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@kazmaloopIt seems your colloquial use of the term is a common issue that the rare Nietzschean scholar is perpetually at odds with, since the consensus on nihilism in academia does not accept it as a rejection of a life purpose but rather a cultural shift away from religious fervor and towards a wider variety of philosophy, and the ubermensch is an archetype that illustrates what a person should NOT be.
      The colloquial use of nihilism instead assumes that there is no purpose and the heroism of the ubermensch is upheld as a desirable trait.
      All of this becomes much clearer especially in the context of neo-nazis and fascists who have misused Nietzsche and his ubermensch for their ideological narrative which opposes Nietzsche's own ideas, but unfortunately due to the enthusiastic exchange of those ideals between settler-colonial hegemony and fascist movements - the colloquial misuse of nihilism has become dominant in the cultural narrative. I know that sounds crazy, but you could talk about anything declassified by the CIA (e.g. Operation Paperclip) and come off as crazy.

  • @VideoSolutionsbyCalebThomas
    @VideoSolutionsbyCalebThomas 7 місяців тому +1

    I tried to enjoy this album but it’s just boring