Oh my gosh this is crazy Shawn! My presentations are so basic - no AI or graphics or filters - just me.telling stories taking video on my phone!🤣. Unpolished, but I’m so happy people seem to find the info helpful, or at least entertaining! 😃
Hi Sunnie, I did a pro-am bronze championship (or scholarship, I forgot) in smooth a couple years ago. I did multiple single heats in bronze with the same couples. I was surprised, that out of no where, there was this seemingly advance pro-am couple in the bronze championship/scholarship! They won. Turns out they also compete in smooth gold categories at other comps! I was like, I thought you had to compete in x amount of single heats in order to compete in the multis/scholarship, etc. Then I heard this comp, at the time, was known for not really enforcing the rules. Anyway, thanks for your videos! Love all your topics!
Arf I am so sorry you fell victim to that. It helps others not feel alone to hear it’s happened to other people, too. It was made very clear to me by other pros, when I turned pro, that that was unacceptable, and very poor sportsmanship. They didn’t have any rules on it back then - it was just COMMON SENSE, and not being self-centered!
Also, I believe the organizers have self-interest in turning a blind eye to dancers breaking rules, when breaking those rules makes more profit for them. I’ll bet if someone breaks the rules in a way that COST the organizer money, that organizer would be ALL OVER that rule-breaker. The sad thing is, it’s very SHORT-SIIGHTED selfishness. If it leads to LESS entries the next year, competitors getting frustrated and quitting, up-and-coming dancers getting discouraged when they see what lies ahead, it will decrease the size of our comp community, and hurt those organizers down the road!
Listening to the video, I should have worded one thing more clearly -- NDCA sanctioned comps usually but have more pro-am competitor couples, than USA Dance sanctioned comps. I feel that's a benefit to the big NDCA comps, because it's fun to be on the floor up against many other dancers, rather than dancing uncontested in your category.
There is also the rule at USDC that if you win a closed scholarship you are no longer eligible to dance in that level. The exception is if it is only a final or uncontested then you can enter again.
Rules to promote fairness help deter unethical people in any industry, including dance. It just takes one bad apple to ruin it for all the good people!!! Question for you Danielle! Have you ever seen someone enter the category they shouldn’t? I’m just curious how often this happens, as our friend shared in their experiences. It’s possibly a problem affecting only certain regions, as the US is a big country, and the same competitors favor doing their same favorite comps year-to-year.
Not just USDC-NDCA rule that applies to each event. This is July 2024 so it’s evidence that fairness is becoming more defined-kind of like the explicit no fraternization rules during a competition. II.B.3.d. (July 2024) This rule was amended. The Pro/Am student winner of any Closed Multi-Dance or Rising Star Multi-Dance event, including Closed Scholarships, of three dances or more, in which a semifinal is held, is ineligible to compete in the same Multi-Dance Level, Style, and Age category at that event in following years at that same event. Organizers may enforce more stringent requirements, provided it is outlined in their Rules and Regulations and included on entry forms.
Hi guys! If you know of any NDCA rules that PROHIBIT pro-am competitors from sandbagging, please share in the comments! Include a quote, in case any of our members would like to bring that 'wording' to their competitions, so they have the ability to nip this in the bud, if they want to. Thanks! 😊
Congratulations 🎉🎉 on 1K!!
Oh my gosh this is crazy Shawn! My presentations are so basic - no AI or graphics or filters - just me.telling stories taking video on my phone!🤣. Unpolished, but I’m so happy people seem to find the info helpful, or at least entertaining! 😃
Hi Sunnie,
I did a pro-am bronze championship (or scholarship, I forgot) in smooth a couple years ago. I did multiple single heats in bronze with the same couples. I was surprised, that out of no where, there was this seemingly advance pro-am couple in the bronze championship/scholarship! They won. Turns out they also compete in smooth gold categories at other comps! I was like, I thought you had to compete in x amount of single heats in order to compete in the multis/scholarship, etc. Then I heard this comp, at the time, was known for not really enforcing the rules. Anyway, thanks for your videos! Love all your topics!
Arf I am so sorry you fell victim to that. It helps others not feel alone to hear it’s happened to other people, too. It was made very clear to me by other pros, when I turned pro, that that was unacceptable, and very poor sportsmanship. They didn’t have any rules on it back then - it was just COMMON SENSE, and not being self-centered!
Also, I believe the organizers have self-interest in turning a blind eye to dancers breaking rules, when breaking those rules makes more profit for them. I’ll bet if someone breaks the rules in a way that COST the organizer money, that organizer would be ALL OVER that rule-breaker.
The sad thing is, it’s very SHORT-SIIGHTED selfishness. If it leads to LESS entries the next year, competitors getting frustrated and quitting, up-and-coming dancers getting discouraged when they see what lies ahead, it will decrease the size of our comp community, and hurt those organizers down the road!
Listening to the video, I should have worded one thing more clearly -- NDCA sanctioned comps usually but have more pro-am competitor couples, than USA Dance sanctioned comps. I feel that's a benefit to the big NDCA comps, because it's fun to be on the floor up against many other dancers, rather than dancing uncontested in your category.
There is also the rule at USDC that if you win a closed scholarship you are no longer eligible to dance in that level. The exception is if it is only a final or uncontested then you can enter again.
Rules to promote fairness help deter unethical people in any industry, including dance. It just takes one bad apple to ruin it for all the good people!!! Question for you Danielle! Have you ever seen someone enter the category they shouldn’t? I’m just curious how often this happens, as our friend shared in their experiences. It’s possibly a problem affecting only certain regions, as the US is a big country, and the same competitors favor doing their same favorite comps year-to-year.
Not just USDC-NDCA rule that applies to each event. This is July 2024 so it’s evidence that fairness is becoming more defined-kind of like the explicit no fraternization rules during a competition.
II.B.3.d. (July 2024)
This rule was amended.
The Pro/Am student winner of any Closed Multi-Dance or Rising Star Multi-Dance event, including Closed Scholarships, of three dances or more, in which a semifinal is held, is ineligible to compete in the same Multi-Dance Level, Style, and Age category at that event in following years at that same event. Organizers may enforce more stringent requirements, provided it is outlined in their Rules and Regulations and included on entry forms.
I love hearing this Sue!!😍😍😍
Hi guys! If you know of any NDCA rules that PROHIBIT pro-am competitors from sandbagging, please share in the comments! Include a quote, in case any of our members would like to bring that 'wording' to their competitions, so they have the ability to nip this in the bud, if they want to. Thanks! 😊