Waiting for it to arrive. This will be my first film camera, and I also wanted to DIY some functionality whenever possible, so thanks for your suggestions. Flash should be a relatively easy fix compared to the rest of the stuff :D
@@Shaka1277 I'll try making a holder for gel filters to play around with flash and later try to figure out a switch for a flash. It needs to be suitable for high currents and be small ofc.
Ok, it turns out using F8 aperture (one when using flash) without flash can be done easily without any mods. You just open the battery slot breaking the circuit, and that's it. It's not as elegant as a switch, but works :D
Nice improvements but I wish kodak would make a 'premium' version with a proper glass lens, maybe faster, better build quality, metal body? Wait, stop ✋️ I'll just stick with my 1960s Olympus Pen ee half frame camera 📷 😊
Ok, this is a bit bizarre. I was just imagining how good it'd be if Kodak made a point and shoot that used a high quality/aspherical lens, and then I see this video and when you show the front "aspherical" is written prominently! Wasn't expecting that word anywhere near this line of cameras lol Honestly, that and the other parts you mentioned are excellent improvements in quality that set it higher than all the other rebranded point and shoots that have all suddenly come out in the past couple years! It makes it seem less like a mere "slap your logo on some other company's low quality work". Also, I would say $15 of an increase for the quality increase is rather good! I'd feared as I watched that this new version would come out to 90-100 with gratuitous pricing of "IMPROVED!" versions of things. Some aspects are really considerate to people interested: colors, the addition of a metal faceplate for a bit more quality feel than all plastic. So this is really cool! I'm just wondering if we'll see this progress to something more (again), where we'd have a rather full featured point and shoot that is super accessible and easy to use. Like the PEN was, but still being really simple at it's core. On that note, I went into a camera shop recently and heard that having dedicated cameras is becoming more popular again -- digital/film point and shoots, disposables, etc. Imagine how inviting it'd be to see a bunch of these set up in a pyramid up front as a great entry to film photography!
I think my girlfriend is getting me this for Christmas since she loves her original so much! Sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and snap away. Thanks man!
Its so cool that they improved the camera so much. Im pretty impressed one of these plastic guys has a glass lens in this day and age! I totally agree that people looking for a starter film camera would love to take double exposures. I think its something that really highlights how chemical photography works and it was (is) something that got me interested in it to begin with. Assuming the battery is just for the flash, maybe it would be nice to have it be rechargeable rather than take a disposable battery I think. Its less reliable, but something people are used to and requires you to plug the camera in rather than go to the store when the battery goes flat.
The battery is definitely only for the flash! I did my f/8 vs f/11 test by taking the battery out and turning the flash dial and it works without issue. I agree that a rechargeable would be the ideal case but I've shot 13 rolls with the original now - and loaned it to friends extensively - and haven't needed to change the AAA battery yet so at least it'll last a long while.
Totally. The lithium ion is liable to go flat after a month or two, but Id rather fuss with that than an aaa. Maybe I'm wrong and AAAs are better because the flash isnt essential and the AAAs are more likely to be there for you when you need them! @@Shaka1277
I do get your point. I'd be more strongly in favour of an inbuilt rechargeable battery if the current choice were like a CR2 or even just a 4LR44 that aren't as common.
Inbuilt rechargeable is more complex and yet another part to fail. There’s a reason it’s designed to take AAA batteries, simplicity and capacity. Coin cell style batteries lack the power to run a flash for a meaningful amount of frames. Use rechargeable AAA batteries, problem solved.
There is the Kodak f9, that has a similar style. As it hasn't been updated it could very well be that they also upgrade it with star filter, glas lens and remote shutter.
There were film cameras that incorporated multiple exposure in the film release button. You'd press the film release (for rewinding), and advance the film. It would cock the shutter without advancing the film, and the film release would also be reset. I have no idea how complex this would be to incorporate into this camera, but it's been done, and on the surface seems not all that complicated. On the other hand, this camera loads film backwards, so who knows?
@@Wilma5532 From all the quirks that are out there double exposure would interest me the most, too. Polaroid has it on all their cameras. For my usage tripod adapter, remote shutter or star filter are something I don't need at all on a plastic camera like this. Double exposure would keep the immediacy of taking pictures with those cameras and ad creativity.
I'm glad this camera exists, unlike the troll who was first to comment. But as someone who never learned how to manage a roll of film per event --- and usually would come home with a few more frames needing to be shot --- more frames is not an advantage for me. I suppose if I were to shoot with this I'd lean into the vertical format and wide angle lens for low angle depth of field shots? That said, what I'd be more interested in would instead be a 24mm square mask and corresponding film advance. --> off topic, I've got 2 rolls of Phoenix 200 en route, to give as a gift. Tell me again, for the E-6 cross processing you underexposed in camera?
I wouldn't recommend E-6 processing oh Phoenix without significant filtration. I'm 8 processes deep into my second round of testing and waiting for another filter to wrap things up! If you do it, rate the film at like 32.
Dumb question, since 1 exposure = 2 photos, do I still need to turn the wheel before I take the next photo? Or i’ll just turn the wheel after 2 photos?
You can't set the ISO because it's a (nearly) fixed exposure camera, but I always include the ISO/EI for my photos, so I just put "yes" in as a dumb joke.
What is the yield of usable images? If half of the images are garbage, you won't use twice as many as with full frame. It's better to get a point and shoot camera from the 90s. With DX coding reader and autofocus and small zoom lens. You can't go wrong when buying. The technical quality is a lot better.
Valid points, those electronic P&S cameras offer a lot more. They're more expensive here than in the US but unfortunately so is the H35N so it's down to personal preference to some degree because the price argument isn't as strong as in some regions. Yield is good, actually! The star filter really isn't my jam and it hampers IQ a lot but the standard lens is not a problem, minus the inability to focus.
@@Shaka1277 On eBay germany the prices for P&S cameras are increased. I own an old one out of the 90s P&S, an Olympus Superzoom 80G 38-80mm. I googled it on ebay . It was traded with 40- 70€ privat offer. Not bad for rental. On Amazon the Kodak Ektar 35h kosts 60€. For mes the starfilter would suck me, too. Who needs such a stuff.
Its a question of style. I wouldnt do two different motives on one print. Instead of taking one shot of something go close for one and wide for the other, just as an example. Both are on the same print afterwards.
Waiting for it to arrive. This will be my first film camera, and I also wanted to DIY some functionality whenever possible, so thanks for your suggestions. Flash should be a relatively easy fix compared to the rest of the stuff :D
Ohhh, what are you planning to do with it?
@@Shaka1277 I'll try making a holder for gel filters to play around with flash and later try to figure out a switch for a flash. It needs to be suitable for high currents and be small ofc.
Ok, it turns out using F8 aperture (one when using flash) without flash can be done easily without any mods. You just open the battery slot breaking the circuit, and that's it. It's not as elegant as a switch, but works :D
Nice improvements but I wish kodak would make a 'premium' version with a proper glass lens, maybe faster, better build quality, metal body?
Wait, stop ✋️ I'll just stick with my 1960s Olympus Pen ee half frame camera 📷 😊
Ok, this is a bit bizarre. I was just imagining how good it'd be if Kodak made a point and shoot that used a high quality/aspherical lens, and then I see this video and when you show the front "aspherical" is written prominently! Wasn't expecting that word anywhere near this line of cameras lol
Honestly, that and the other parts you mentioned are excellent improvements in quality that set it higher than all the other rebranded point and shoots that have all suddenly come out in the past couple years! It makes it seem less like a mere "slap your logo on some other company's low quality work".
Also, I would say $15 of an increase for the quality increase is rather good! I'd feared as I watched that this new version would come out to 90-100 with gratuitous pricing of "IMPROVED!" versions of things. Some aspects are really considerate to people interested: colors, the addition of a metal faceplate for a bit more quality feel than all plastic.
So this is really cool! I'm just wondering if we'll see this progress to something more (again), where we'd have a rather full featured point and shoot that is super accessible and easy to use. Like the PEN was, but still being really simple at it's core.
On that note, I went into a camera shop recently and heard that having dedicated cameras is becoming more popular again -- digital/film point and shoots, disposables, etc. Imagine how inviting it'd be to see a bunch of these set up in a pyramid up front as a great entry to film photography!
I think my girlfriend is getting me this for Christmas since she loves her original so much! Sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and snap away. Thanks man!
Its so cool that they improved the camera so much. Im pretty impressed one of these plastic guys has a glass lens in this day and age! I totally agree that people looking for a starter film camera would love to take double exposures. I think its something that really highlights how chemical photography works and it was (is) something that got me interested in it to begin with. Assuming the battery is just for the flash, maybe it would be nice to have it be rechargeable rather than take a disposable battery I think. Its less reliable, but something people are used to and requires you to plug the camera in rather than go to the store when the battery goes flat.
The battery is definitely only for the flash! I did my f/8 vs f/11 test by taking the battery out and turning the flash dial and it works without issue. I agree that a rechargeable would be the ideal case but I've shot 13 rolls with the original now - and loaned it to friends extensively - and haven't needed to change the AAA battery yet so at least it'll last a long while.
Totally. The lithium ion is liable to go flat after a month or two, but Id rather fuss with that than an aaa. Maybe I'm wrong and AAAs are better because the flash isnt essential and the AAAs are more likely to be there for you when you need them! @@Shaka1277
I do get your point. I'd be more strongly in favour of an inbuilt rechargeable battery if the current choice were like a CR2 or even just a 4LR44 that aren't as common.
Inbuilt rechargeable is more complex and yet another part to fail. There’s a reason it’s designed to take AAA batteries, simplicity and capacity. Coin cell style batteries lack the power to run a flash for a meaningful amount of frames. Use rechargeable AAA batteries, problem solved.
I don't know if there would be a market for it but a full frame version of this cheap camera would be lovely
There is the Kodak f9, that has a similar style. As it hasn't been updated it could very well be that they also upgrade it with star filter, glas lens and remote shutter.
Best in depth review of this camera by far. Covering the main points of the camera and not a watered down video to appeal to beginners or the masses
Wow, excellent review, this is how it is done! Thanks.
If it could have the same focus system as the Olympus XA2. Sometimes I wish the XA2 was a half-frame xD
I think the first one was a good start.
This one is a better one. And we see a small growth in film cameras and in film in general.
I have the H35 and its lovely. However, it definitely had its quirks that made it unpredictable. definitely glad that its being tuned up
Added Warning: MANY photo development labs charge extra for half frame developing and scanning. So you may not reap the “half the cost” benefit.
Half frame is not a bonus.
There were film cameras that incorporated multiple exposure in the film release button. You'd press the film release (for rewinding), and advance the film. It would cock the shutter without advancing the film, and the film release would also be reset. I have no idea how complex this would be to incorporate into this camera, but it's been done, and on the surface seems not all that complicated. On the other hand, this camera loads film backwards, so who knows?
There were also cameras like the Minolta XE which had a special button (not film rewind release) that lets you make double exposures.
@@Wilma5532 From all the quirks that are out there double exposure would interest me the most, too. Polaroid has it on all their cameras. For my usage tripod adapter, remote shutter or star filter are something I don't need at all on a plastic camera like this. Double exposure would keep the immediacy of taking pictures with those cameras and ad creativity.
Does the bulb option can be used without a cable ?
Nope, sorry.
2:15 please can someone tell me how this thing is called ❤
It's a "threaded cable release" :)
I'm glad this camera exists, unlike the troll who was first to comment. But as someone who never learned how to manage a roll of film per event --- and usually would come home with a few more frames needing to be shot --- more frames is not an advantage for me.
I suppose if I were to shoot with this I'd lean into the vertical format and wide angle lens for low angle depth of field shots?
That said, what I'd be more interested in would instead be a 24mm square mask and corresponding film advance.
--> off topic, I've got 2 rolls of Phoenix 200 en route, to give as a gift. Tell me again, for the E-6 cross processing you underexposed in camera?
I wouldn't recommend E-6 processing oh Phoenix without significant filtration. I'm 8 processes deep into my second round of testing and waiting for another filter to wrap things up! If you do it, rate the film at like 32.
What is the crop factor to compare the focal length to full frame?
The different aspect ratio makes it inexact but approximately 1.4x, so the 22 mm lens gives you roughly the FoV of a full frame 31 mm lens.
@@Shaka1277 thank you. Quiet wide angle. The film frame is comparable to APSc.
Dumb question, since 1 exposure = 2 photos, do I still need to turn the wheel before I take the next photo? Or i’ll just turn the wheel after 2 photos?
The film "gate", the hole light hits the film through, is half the size so you still advance the wheel after every shot.
@@Shaka1277 appreciate this. Thanks a lot!
Excellent video 😊!
Good ⬛️🖤
What film did you shoot ?
Photo information is in each caption :)
Awesome
how do i know if its in landscape / portrait frame?
It's the opposite to a normal camera, so holding it normally is portrait orientation.
@@Shaka1277 thanks for the reply!
1:14 what does @ yes mean?
You can't set the ISO because it's a (nearly) fixed exposure camera, but I always include the ISO/EI for my photos, so I just put "yes" in as a dumb joke.
What is the yield of usable images? If half of the images are garbage, you won't use twice as many as with full frame. It's better to get a point and shoot camera from the 90s. With DX coding reader and autofocus and small zoom lens. You can't go wrong when buying. The technical quality is a lot better.
Valid points, those electronic P&S cameras offer a lot more. They're more expensive here than in the US but unfortunately so is the H35N so it's down to personal preference to some degree because the price argument isn't as strong as in some regions.
Yield is good, actually! The star filter really isn't my jam and it hampers IQ a lot but the standard lens is not a problem, minus the inability to focus.
@@Shaka1277 On eBay germany the prices for P&S cameras are increased. I own an old one out of the 90s P&S, an Olympus Superzoom 80G 38-80mm. I googled it on ebay . It was traded with 40- 70€ privat offer. Not bad for rental. On Amazon the Kodak Ektar 35h kosts 60€.
For mes the starfilter would suck me, too. Who needs such a stuff.
And you also give up a key feature, half frame.
Way too much frames per film and vertical normal framing, no way for me
Oh you must be very rich 🤑
Its a question of style. I wouldnt do two different motives on one print. Instead of taking one shot of something go close for one and wide for the other, just as an example. Both are on the same print afterwards.
That’s fine. You don’t have to buy it. It’s made for people who want to get more out of their camera processing film can get pricey
Just turn it vertical and you have 72 landscape orientation photos lol
this camera was made for only one purpose, to take a disgusting shot, like full-frame plastic point-and-shoot cameras, 2 times worse.