CELEBRITIES WITH WEIRD & HIDDEN TALENTS

[@kay-dc8495]

KSI's hidden talent: Growing a beard
Key word: Hidden

[@rengoku2786]

Fax

[@icecreambodyrolls]

Lol

[@alper8966]

your talent: N/A

[@konan37]

thats tobi and simons talent aswell lol

[@haaland1103]

😂😂😂

[@leeroyshouse]

JJ: “So let’s just say you’re in an alley way with 10 bad guys”
Next second:
JJ: 😄

[@jonasrossil1978]

I swear that made me laugh so hard😂

[@MClovinHD3D]

Got hacked by bad guys

[@kattt.mp4]

Orgy

[@richard23077]

Lmfao

[@thebaldwrinklyman3449]

That was jokes

[@mmgmagic]

12:13 I don't know why, but the way JJ's camera cuts to him smiling like that made me laugh way more than it should've.

[@Anonymous-mb9it]

did the recording stop or they just cut that part of the video

[@sym243]

@@Anonymous-mb9it i think his camera stuck that is why u can see him setting it up again

[@Baby-zd7wf]

A

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@oliviah5651]

Hahahaha

[@FIFA-fv4nn]

Ethan out of nowhere, "Hey lads, I dropped my laptop in the ocean once, Adele rolling in the deep" and Tobi's reply "Hope you get beaten up by the bad guys" this was hilarious 😂

[@cellulose3090]

JJ's weird talent : making everything possible sexual

[@Chaedamis]

Dont make it gay

[@briannjoroge4297]

yes now thats a talent right there

[@crimsonmatter]

Damn glad I passed that phase

[@kiangab654]

agreed

[@peterk.2108]

@@Chaedamis YOU LUUKED AT ME

[@arjun8836]

The energy throughout the whole video was wholesome, weird, awkward, hilarious and chaotic at the same time.....one of the best reacts

[@Adzsa]

Fax

[@ArthurKnight1899]

You just described every sidemen video

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@bananabread4075]

Ayo we aint watch the same video lol

[@melmurrayN.Z]

Best way to describe the Sidemen in general!

[@walidmardom6283]

I lost it when Harry had contradicted himself and got impressed by Dr Phil's wheelie

[@xroyal2179]

It’s because it’s dr Phil tho

[@ChrisMcKee087]

Yea but Dr Phil is different bro 😭

[@awesomedave8484]

Chris Pratt’s talent was magically growing his receding hairline back!

[@walidmardom6283]

@@Kristy_maff your mom

[@yourmajesty5497]

Cuz it’s random nigga like 70

[@reynoldchristopher2858]

JJ: "I'm not a sexual person."
Also JJ: *hears Ariana Grande's baby voice and immediately thinks of foreplay*

[@tired9987]

Hears baby
Ksi: that’s foreplay

[@FloridaWeed]

My friend wants to kill himself, should i help him??

[@mikelem3891]

@@FloridaWeed not really we all have that one friend

[@kalpvasava1647]

Real G's For us 😂

[@noemisoto6681]

@@FloridaWeed 😐

[@joshdean7131]

JJ: Let’s just say you’re in an alleyway with 10 bad guys
JJ’s cam: 😏😏
(12:18)

[@YovanPC]

When did he say it?

[@strangemage7134]

@@YovanPC 12:18

[@yoyah5999]

@@strangemage7134 and what is so funny about 10 bad guys?

[@strangemage7134]

@@yoyah5999 What tf are you talking about.

[@yoyah5999]

@@strangemage7134 they (Tobi harry Ethan) laughed so hard after fatneek said "10 bad guys" and I am asking what's so funny about that!

[@chriso5157]

"I dropped my laptop in the ocean once. A Dell rolling in the deep" 😂 fair play Ethan

[@kotoko2785]

12:13 The way Jj's face froze made me spit out my noodles LMAO

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@vinstual9830]

Lets just say your in an alley way with 10 bad guys 🤣

[@rud3b0ygaming]

Harry was speaking facts about us as a society being amazed at celebrities doing the dumbest shit and we somehow put it on a pedestal yet if a regular person did the same shit we'd be like "meh" 😂

[@91divoC]

Jeez my guy from Zimbabwe
That's all I have to say

[@yasuke7551]

then immediately does the same thing LMAOO

[@demonsluger]

@TheSportsGuru can he survive 1 week in an forest without starving then im impressed if not he aint worth shit.

[@demonsluger]

@TheSportsGuru Yep people that lack basic life skills arent impressing.

[@Ultron-oz1to]

Ah yes of course, survive in a forest without starving. For sure that will make them impressive. Why I haven't thought of that when they say that person is impressive. Thanks bro for your big brain

[@VenturePictures]

“Baby cries”
No one:
JJ: “foreplay”

[@Facts_Tube2128]

ua-cam.com/video/8zAZXBat3G8/v-deo.html

[@rndmcount2795]

These bots are getting out of hands

[@hajmola7605]

UA-cam: "Child Endangerment."

[@AAnujKshirsagar]

Ayo these BOTS 😭😭🙏 send them away

[@elzurdito9860]

“If that was a kid on the street doing that, you’d tell them they were shit.” - Harry Lewis
🤣🤣🤣

[@wedontagelikemilktho.6633]

Tobi said that lol.

[@pratardanhegde5776]

Harry speaking faxs

[@DeZzBeZooked]

@@wedontagelikemilktho.6633 i said it

[@yesdcotchin]

@@wedontagelikemilktho.6633 he said it to mock Harry who said it first

[@veriousshifter2930]

7:32

[@kisamehoshigaki09]

Why the fuck is Harry's impromptu zero effort impression of the rock actually slightly better lmao

[@connorr9100]

Slightly? Was way better 😂

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Lol

[@iicraxfty6574]

Pretty sure it was supposed to be the face not what she said.. that’s why everyone thought it was terrible

[@Jluyoungzone]

The chemistry between these 4 was top tier. One of the best reacts they've done

[@rattyfatty246]

we say that with every sidemen react group

[@maza1234]

@@rattyfatty246 coz they’ve all got great chemistry w each other

[@cell2179]

@@maza1234 missed his point

[@elizabethholland6183]

I want to see Tobi’s impression of a can of coke being poured. Can’t believe JJ interrupted him and didn’t let him have his turn

[@elizabethholland6183]

Justice for Tobi

[@davosh2006]

There are some videos of it with Miniminter in them asking

[@boii6569]

Tobi

[@harryw3188]

tobi just did it on stream on twitch, i was watching him react to this vid just then and he did it for chat

[@konan37]

nah i didnt really care tbh i wanted to hear jjs talent more

[@BeatsBrowne]

12:13
JJ : "Well, lets just say you're in an alleyway with 10 bad guys"
😃

[@loismahama3329]

I came to the comments for this 😂

[@konan37]

this was jokes

[@trooper4109]

@Wesam Alaeldin same with me😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[@BANGTAN-fv3xh]

That made me laugh so hard for some reasons 😭😭

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@andresmonge5959]

13:49 I swear this is one of Tobi’s funniest lines. Nothing clever or weird, but there was something about the timing

[@skrrrtemorr8969]

Ethan: “She can hold spoons in either hand”
Fucking fantastic

[@misslaurynhill]

*they ^^

[@rajvanshsinghchauhan3677]

@@misslaurynhill*it

[@NvmSpider]

i fucking lost it 🤣🤣

[@MeJustAimy]

I dont understand this one

[@TheStickyDynamite]

@@MeJustAimy she's a drug addict

[@YoSplashy]

nah when JJ acts like he does in this video its a 10/10 off the start idec

[@anonymousgamer4336]

@Inka Christie🤤😘 make sure you don't click

[@dreezyesports3441]

Exactly what I thought when I just read your comment

[@dubbyball1688]

i love how this comment has nearly 2k likes and 5 replies

[@sipapi1131]

Why did you add an “e” in that? “Idec”?

[@dubbyball1688]

Guys dont press this links in this comment section, trust me

[@69-venkateshvikram93]

"Newsflash: Musician can play drums"-Harry
That is underrated

[@waynicliz]

anything harry says isnt underated he will get sucked off by his fanbase for existing

[@joshentertainment2]

Is he talking about justin bieber

[@georgew1466]

So many bots

[@DYNNTHEGOAT]

No it's f*cking not

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@selectivevisions]

“again I'd argue its not a talent its a defect" got me pissing

[@NorthCamZ]

ikr, hahah

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@imjustarandomindianguy4435]

i mean he aint wrong

[@sachitsaini97]

8:40 I nearly choked on my food when harry said "OOOO" LMAO

[@Carzey]

Everyone is talking about JJ but I'm just glad that Ethan is feeling alright.

[@bethelbedada6815]

what happened

[@deron19]

@@bethelbedada6815 grandpa passed

[@divinegracev.delmundo1584]

@@deron19 oh:(

[@Nay_Funn]

JJ’s talent’s still being able to put the Arsenal shirt on after these past few years

[@Harry123456789NZ]

Thats not a talent, its just torture at this point 😢

[@frostackerman]

Ayo allow it fam. While we at it #Kroenkeout

[@benbm04]

😂😂😂

[@offlinetvfriendsfandom6991]

And that was a violation

[@symezgaming]

That’s just being a true fan lol

[@ars.had__]

Jj has a talent in himself that's his laugh. No one has it 😂😂

[@nicnettelbeck1181]

Anne Marie

[@yab2842]

@@nicnettelbeck1181 true

[@boii6569]

@@nicnettelbeck1181 fax rare laughs

[@gazza42069]

so does ethan

[@krishpatt1209]

creature was shit

[@krishshrotiya]

Entire video summed up
JJ: making every talent weird
Tobi: actually enjoying
Ethan: getting violated by JJ making it weird
Harry: denying every talent

[@bigboom2438]

It's true though. Most of these aren't talents at all. Harry was spitting facts.

[@emmanuellim5754]

And also " 10 bad guys"

[@krishshrotiya]

@@bigboom2438 Harry is every Asian parent ever

[@AngelisDead777]

KSI: "Your in a ally way with ten bad guys." ** KSI Happy face :D **
12:15

[@Tejvir7]

You’re*

[@Sandra2445x]

nah that got me dead wtf

[@JoshTehYoda]

When you get JJ, Harry, and Ethan in a react video you know they're gonna laugh uncontrolably LOL, it's like when they kept getting put at the back for the "Who's The Smartest Sidemen" question

[@tenma9948]

I appreciate how Harry acknowledges Ethan’s rhyme

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@auisfbiuhask6353]

JJ: "I'm not a sexual person"
lmao yh keep telling yourself that mate

[@DeaconMarsh17]

Jesus loves you so much. Please spread the gospel before it’s too late

[@Chickenbone263]

@@DeaconMarsh17 no

[@Hadi.Hussein]

@@DeaconMarsh17 noo

[@sketcho5805]

@@DeaconMarsh17 no

[@Rhakjellg]

@@DeaconMarsh17 no

[@henrysparky6979]

Harry’s talent is actually becoming deep throat man

[@davooooooooo]

'deep through'
Yep, exactly that.

[@dannic2242]

Deep through what

[@eirikophus394]

deep throat man?

[@rudyloreni2883]

what are you on about

[@reddd-77]

@Jake Paul is 👑 ewww

[@zephyr1327]

THIS VIDEO HAD ME DYING 😂 These 4 are funny af together!

[@rajvanshsinghchauhan3677]

The fact that JJ is a goddamm number one artist and he's joking about another artist giving Bj's is just making me feel like this guy has gone clear^2

[@yanar8142]

He just diff

[@vvthetalentlessduo6976]

Lol

[@SH-AQ_1]

yup so clear

[@abyss6846]

"Your in east london and you encounter 10 bad guys" had me dying laughing

[@2litresofmercury]

5:15 "Again I'd argue it's not a talent, it's a defect" 💀💀 nah Harry's too funny 🤣🤣

[@ishimweishimwe7618]

“Man didn’t say opp, he said bad guys”😂. Died💀

[@ammarimtiaz88]

I didn't get the joke 😢

[@Athithan_2000]

12:15 “You’re in East London & you encounter 10 bad guys!”😂😂😂

[@joyboy1536]

2:39 Harry was disgusted🤣🤣

[@aashutoshprabhu]

The whole video Harry was literally on smoke
"News flash a musician can play an instrument" that sent me 😭😭

[@mooseclickmooseclick5036]

@Jake Paul is 👑 I wish you a speedy recovery

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@cakeitv]

Ethan's "A Dell rolling in the deep" had me laughing so hard for the most stupidest reason 🤣🤣🤣

[@mirza4037]

Lmao

[@imakonkonvicted]

@@fela1717 hello. i m 12 . can i open the link . please

[@amir021idm]

same, my humor is broken

[@NityaStriker]

Whatchu know ‘bout A Dell rolling down in the deep.

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@spearmintmedia]

This might be the funniest Sidemen Reacts. Top banter from everyone

[@DanB14]

Nah the one with the invincible solider is the funniest

[@Azfa_]

@ you remember the title of the video ?

[@anirudhkumar9139]

​@ There were no jokes in the video. The boys were just all being dumbfucks. It was so bad I couldn't watch past 2 minutes

[@najnajnajqk7285]

@Jake Paul is 👑 username checks out

[@jonahroark1807]

6:46 yo the way harry took a sip 😂

[@TheYeetusLord]

Are we sure JJ "I'm not a sexual person " Olatunji has a girlfriend? He's clearly the most sexually frustrated he's been since 2012.

[@followerofthechurchofsumi3868]

KSI: "I'm not a sexual person"

[@Miniplev]

"It's not a talent, it's a defect"
What a line haha

[@markbrennan212]

I was digging for this comment 😂😂 thought I was the only one

[@koushikparameswaran1114]

JJ cringing at 10:15 is so on point 😂😂

[@samuelconway8961]

Harry: “Newsflash a musician can play an instrument.” Hahahaha😂😂

[@badataria6585]

The chemistry in this one was amazing 😂😂👌🏾

[@lollol9772]

Ah! What an amazing hidden talent for a world famous singer to have... being able to hold a microphone?

[@DERAILEDbeats]

LMFAO

[@DJLuigiBrosXD]

ua-cam.com/video/EAfjqaKpEpo/v-deo.html

[@Artificial.quotes]

ua-cam.com/video/IsO08cPstXw/v-deo.html

[@nothing707]

@@DERAILEDbeats they don't clickbait, it's the thumbnail from the video they are reacting to, maybe the real asshole is the one who made the video then.

[@matb321]

R/whoosh

[@joshuasmith1347]

Bo staff exists
Harry: how does spinning a stick help you in a fight

[@MonsieurDDMonsterr]

Harry says so much that could get him cancelled, but we love him for it

[@Zextro7]

_3:06__ Harry is blushing_

[@taavishjha]

12:30
When it all began....

[@jurem1237]

I love these four, it’s just hilarious, 4 minutes in and it’s just all gone downhill and I love it 🤣👌🏾

[@klaudiaApowroznik]

jj: "i got a sick talent, i can breathe.....watch!"
ethan: "Nahhhh Fuck off"

[@yashokoye7845]

what was the purpose of this comment u just typed what they said

[@amir021idm]

jj failed at breathing

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@krunt4049]

JJ: "Let's Just say you're in an alleyway with 10 bad guys"
Jj a second after saying that
JJ: :D

[@KaseLee]

That’s him in his domain music video 😭

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@jamaalsmikley2j.272]

3:10 OKAY JJ! I know your channel is on two strikes but please don't bring SidemenReacts down with it!

[@umarahsan7195]

7:25 it's actually a talent...
Tanjiro learned it after so much hard work

[@mugiwara7111]

JJ: "lets just say youre in an alleyway with 10 bad guys..... 😀😀"

[@midnightvibes7411]

I died at that😭😭😭

[@jaccreator]

I love how tobi is wearin the off white religious shirt jj gave him

[@2litresofmercury]

Seeing KSI's face change after realizing Adele's "Harry rap" was actually her reciting one of Nicki Minaj's best ever verses lol 💀💀

[@yaboityrone9804]

Can we actually take a moment to applaud Harry's The Rock impression!👏👏

[@Mariasclipssss]

“This is Harry rap”-jj
What do you mean, Tobi
“This is wroteshore rap”-jj

[@rahularoli4579]

10:28
That was loud, Didnt expect it from Harry .

[@yasuki3744]

The freeze when jj said “when your in the street with 10 bad guys” LMAOOOO

[@rontron300]

6:45 Why is harry drinking like that 😂😂

[@mubeenasghar6797]

11:30 Ethans joke about Demi Lovato is so underrated 😂😂😂

[@JoePlatt1]

that went over so many peoples' heads in the comments

[@jackbailey9480]

JJ's talent is he can laugh in 100 different pitches.

[@The_Curious_Cat]

Harry pretty much nailed it. Famous people do a back flip "wow! so much talent!". lmao

[@tanvir1231]

All of them judging Nicki Minaj’s British accent and rejecting her is so British 😂😭

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@whoareyou3781]

@@Baby-zd7wf no

[@Justreiver]

@@Baby-zd7wf the fuck?!

[@cypress3672]

It's a shite British accent.

[@xroyal2179]

I mean it was pretty shit

[@katherinerodz]

Ethan’s spoon comment and Harry’s Rock impersonation was the best part of this video.

[@pavellandaverde6501]

"you're in east London and you encounter 10 bad guys"😂😂

[@akhilanvairamuthu1304]

10:41 JJ's rock impression 😂😂😂

[@emanuelj4367]

This has to be the funniest sidemen react yet. Top banter from the get go.

[@jayansaini7093]

Jjs talent is laughing rather than crying at being bullied by his reddit

[@DJLuigiBrosXD]

ua-cam.com/video/EAfjqaKpEpo/v-deo.html

[@rengoku2786]

ua-cam.com/video/gwLPiuM8Qws/v-deo.html
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[@rengoku2786]

Yup

[@BeatsBrowne]

Unlucky somebody stole your comment

[@syrialak101]

Copied comment

[@kudakwashemwashayenyi4752]

The genuine vibe between these lads is amazing

[@lcoryalvarado9]

Narrator: "Justin Bieber can solve a rubix cube really fast"
Logic: solves a rubix cube with his eyes closed while freestyling

[@aryanraut3820]

It's only a talent if Harry verifies it 🤣💯
But he isn't wrong, just because a person is famous, it makes their skill some how more amazing than anyone else's, Harry the goat 👌

[@kishoresaravanan91]

can't believe JJ called that iconic Nicki verse from monster a 'W2S rap'

[@elivi5391]

I love their reaction when Nicki did a "British accent" 😂😂

[@dwaynne_way]

Being trying to find this for a long long time "10 bad guys" 😂😂😂

[@TsRAbyssers]

4:33 why has no one noticed Harry having a seizure in the background LMAOO

[@benyamin7709]

Watching Sidemen before sleep has became my daily routine :D

[@DJLuigiBrosXD]

ua-cam.com/video/EAfjqaKpEpo/v-deo.html

[@mykolas2517]

You go to sleep at 5pm GMT?

[@Artificial.quotes]

ua-cam.com/video/IsO08cPstXw/v-deo.html

[@BeatsBrowne]

In the comments say what time it is where you are Its 17:04 for me

[@Cam-1702]

@@mykolas2517 you can still watch old videos on the other channels instead

[@damnbrothatsweird7301]

Harry drinking is so funny but also so stressful. I just feel he'll drop the cup. But also him ducking down to drink while looking up at the screen is adorable

[@geetharavilla]

Ah yes. The thumbnail. It clearly shows that Ariana's hidden talent is holding a mic and singing. Never knew she could do that. 🤯

[@joshentertainment2]

Not hidden

[@Baby-zd7wf]

AISURU.TOKYO/eunji?💞
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
UA-cam: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
UA-cam: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾

[@harishamza1646]

One of the best reacts in a while! What a debacle these four are

[@tamers9124]

Bro the "bad guy's" thing will never get old, I'll always spit out my coffee when hearing that 🤣

[@rifledragon8133]

13:28
JJ: Harry Rap
Harry after a month: Ksi Diss track no.4

[@jaywithani2753]

This was one of the funniest sidemen reacts 😭😭😂 I’m fucking dead

[@jazzyshah7062]

WHO ELSE NOTICED KSI GLITCH ? 😂😂😂 12:20

[@shawn980]

12:11 “What are you gaining from being able to swing a stick around?”
He learned how to do it for a movie.

[@mrboogaloo6957]

12:13 when jj's camera froze was so funny for some reason

[@gogogg2615]

this the funniest sidemen reacts vid the interaction between the boys and everything big up

[@lenn7135]

Harry was such a Karen this video
It was brilliant 😂

[@UniversalNPC]

"news flash: musician can play an instrument." 😂😂😂

[@tomoya2030]

this is the best group for sidemen reacts im ngl

[@luketwellman3018]

6:47
Look at Harry 😂😂

[@lils2968]

Jj's ability to make anything and everything into a weird sexual comment is either a medical condition or a hidden talent.

[@nrlstatistics4898]

Or both