The Croatia Question
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2020
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When were you in Istria, or is this stock video?
@@Joso997 These episodes were filmed in May/June.
Ive been living here (Macedonia) 10 years. You encapsulated everything i've been trying to say. I hope you will be recognized for your vision. You are a pioneer. Not just for this series but for your entire work. I hope you...and many like you, can continue!
8:29 where is this ski field and the mountain with lake? ....and again, Tito is very loved here in Slovenia, I also think you are misinterpreting.
Absolutely love every video you make. Do you plan on visiting Romania ? You got a big fan over there!
All the best
Seeing my house in a Rare Earth video has to be the weirdest feeling I've felt in a long time
Velenje!
Hey i saw it too!
Where
@@ifrazali3052 nice try
Što
Yugoslavia just broke up peacefully and everyone lived happily ever after right?
The_Nuke my sweet summer child
Seems that never worked anywhere except for Czechoslovakia.
@@treskyplesky1189 Nah Venezuela and Colombia also split with out any war
@@mariocerin4105 That is not true. There were a number of wars in places like Azerbijan and Armenia.
Peter Mackie still in war mate
As a Croatian, I find this video objective and realistic. The only thing I could object is the video doesn't explain much about Croatia and its "question", but rather talks about Pavelic's and Tito's regime. Tho I can understand that, because the format is short and pretty comprimed.
@@Languslangus The "question" I was aiming for is a bit more detailed history behind explanations of how and why Croatia got to collaborate with fascists regimes in the first place.
I couldn't care less for some useless parasitic alliances and you shouldn't either.
@@Languslangus ffs 🙄
There’s 3 parts already out and a 5th on the way, so don’t fully discount him yet.
It’s good to see someone from the subject area speaking on the topic though
@@Languslangus You are missing his point and are also wrong when it comes to Germany starting WWI. Austria-Hungary started it and Russia was also responsible for the scale of the war as well.
@@emanuel3345 He's not really wrong though, because it was the German empire that declared war on Russia and on France, after sending two ultimatum to stop the war preparations, backing its ally, the Austro-Hungarian empire, in its war on Serbia.
God doesn’t play politics, people play God.
I don't know man, have you ever read a holy book? 95% of what gods seem to do involves taking sides in petty local politics...
@@PlatinumAltaria what an asshole God was for writing those books, eh?
@@PlatinumAltaria Not a bible man but once Adam and Eve ate the apples mankind understood everything. They were naked and learned the differences of good of evil in man. It says man isn't created evil but can slip into darkness. Even religious books know god isn't in total control we make our own decisions and we still dont understand that yet. Most of those holy books are just guidelines and stories to help early civilization survive.
You bring a very interesting perspective on all these events and I really enjoy watching your material. The tragically comedic destiny of our peoples is one where we are closely enough related to be able to form a single identity that encompasses all our regional ones, but we are unable to do it successfully. This comes from history and our different religions. Unfortunately, that is our fate for living on a political fault line since the dawn of time. Despite all our genetic similarities and everything we have in common, our religions make us just different enough for those with bad intentions to be able to divide us.
But there is a reason for optimism, our peoples have survived there for a very long time and we are not going anywhere. Eventually, we will figure out how to live together peacefully. It may not be in a single country or whatnot, but given enough generations of peace, we may be able to move on from this cycle. That is why the Dayton accords, for all their insufficiencies and colossal mistakes, still do have value. Keep the peace long enough, build economic interests and interrelationships and make conflict and war an extremely poor alternative for everyone involved. Given enough time it can and will work, because if it doesn't there won't be anyone left to call themselves serbs, croats or bosnians.
I mean, religion is a rapidly dwindling issue thanks to the internet. And with projects like the EU it's possible to, at least on the surface unify people into categories broader than nations.
Well, just through out all these Semitic Abrahamic religions and return back to the native Orphism (Orphean mysticism). Problem solved!
@@Zingam Correction: Problem supplanted by new problems!
This reminds me of my professor of National Thought (Joep Leersen) at Universiteit van Amsterdam. He further developed the idea of Sigmund Freud as "Narcissism of small differences". This would mean something in the line of two groups being so similar that after a point of similarity they get an enormous drive to distinguish themselves from one another. For Freud that was the problem of European nation states, their similarities. This can obviously be reflected in post Yugoslavian countries as we can see that culturally every ethnicity is trying to distinguish themselves from one another.
On the other hand, Dayton. I mean as we analyzed and learned about it at uni, it suffices to say that it was a peace building agreement and not a state building agreement. Problem is that the international community, as well as local politics, lost their will to change it in the 21st century as it should have been done by original promises. In my opinion, for now we can only rely on this aged Dayton and try to make the best out of a bad situation. I guess there's no point in even discussing changing the Dayton until the local politics become much less corrupt and obsessed with ethnic divisions.(which ironically feeds back into Freud's argument)
Ognjen Pavlovic Funnily enough I have this suspicion that by the time it will be possible to change Dayton we will need no substitute for it. It just won’t be necessary.
What we need is called “ontzuiling” in the Netherlands and they went through that process after the 2nd World War. Back then the protestants read newspaper x, the catholics y. They all had their political parties they voted for, etc. Honestly it was more similar to Dayton than you would think!
Eventually they wisened up, I hope we do too.
This man could narrate dumping garbage passionately.
In 1992, a friend of mine at school told us of his visit to Yugoslavia during 1989. He told that the people he met there were expecting a war soon. They certainly got it.
"The picture perfect communist. He had all the fancy suits to prove it" this joke is still true. (Comment from Brazil)
This is the one channel I will drop everything to watch a new upload from. Keep up the fantastic work Evan and crew
This video will look to simplified for people of Balkans, but for sure it is because we are overthinking our fate. It is for everyone to understand our fate.
Somebody who gets it! I fell into a deep wiki hole on the subject a couple weeks ago and I'm still not sure how everything went down.
Being Croatian, I must admit I liked this video a lot. But I feel the title is somewhat misleading, as it doesn't actually discuss the "Croatian Question", but rather Tito and Pavelić, the two faces of Croatia at the time of World War II. And while it does so very well, I felt the title implied a discussion of broader context that wasn't there. I get it though, the videos can't really be long enough to do that effectively and with punch.
On another note, I truly, honestly, and from the bottom of my heart thank you for how you portrayed the Ustashe regime and Pavelić, and for using correct casualty figures. Listening to Croatian extreme nationalists diminish the Ustashe's wrongdoings and make up excuses for them is utterly disgusting. And at the same time it's extremely frustrating listening to Serbian extreme nationalists blowing the figures up to 1, or even 1,5 million dead Serbs - isn't 300,000 dead innocents a shattering enough figure?
most of his titles are thought provoking, thus he uses tactics that can be "clickbaity" like misleading "tittles". I don't mind this, been a fan of the channel for a long time. I follow channels that have more confusing titles than this. XD
Same thing with communists supporters downplay caracter of Tito regime
@Josip You say that Tito would have had LGBT people killed but homosexuality was legalised in Croatia and Slovenia in 1978. I am not sure if he had strong views on that subject.
@Josip Since Tito was a authoritarian ruler, he could easily strike down those pro LGBT legislations right?
@Josip I agree 100% that LGBT is out of their mind. Praising Tito and communism. I was surprised when I saw some people with Che Guevara Tshirts on "Zagreb pride". We know what Cuban communist did to gays, and rest of communist countries and ex Yugoslavia were not much different.
Interesting, where you found that sign that says "voluntarios internacionales de la libertad 1936 1939? Its from the spainsh civil war! It means: international volunteers for the freedom 1936 1939
@daniiel mlinarics yes, but the video is from croatia, so the sign should have been in croat🤔 or is a sign of a place for spanish emigrées or ex figters? Where are you from btw?
@daniiel mlinarics cool :) so its a place for croat international brigadists then :) thx for the info 👌
@@augustusimperator.avi1872 I'd guess, that plaque was probably gifted to Yugoslavia as gratitute and in memory of the Volunteer divisions.
@@augustusimperator.avi1872 yugoslavs from whole ex country were involved in the spanish war, even from Montenegro. Yugoslavia existed before it's Tito Socialist era.
there were a lot of yugoslav volunteers in spanish civil war. They were mostly ethnic Croats, so when WWII broke out they had crucial role in organizing resistance in Independent State of Croatia. If it wasn't for them, partisan resistance would most likely fail.
After the war they were quite romanticized.
Wow! I cannot even begin to understand how you managed to cram so much footage from Slovenia (even the opening scene!) in a video about "The Croatia Question" (whatever this is supposed to be ...). It surely couldn't be a mistake.
Watch the first video in the series, and read the description.
The Axis powers offered Vladko Maček the opportunity to form a government, since Maček and his party, the Croatian Peasant Party (Croatian: Hrvatska seljačka stranka - HSS) had the greatest electoral support among Yugoslavia's Croats - but Maček refused that offer.
Maček and the 1st Yugoslavia(KSCS) which ever had any chance to survive or to fall apart peacefully. The Cvetkovic-Maček treaty was the only one which could divide the country peacefully and which would somewhat respect historicalðnic borders within the land.
Tito's borders essentially caused the wars in the 90's, plus quite a few wars to come I'm afraid.
Evan, I really love that last note in the credits card at the end. Especially for being a more opinion-ey explainer channel, acknowledging fallibility like that fortifies my respect for you and your work a lot. Keep on keepin on, my friend.
It's ironic that the title card at the end telling me not to trust them too much, makes me want to trust them more.
My grandfather spent 5 years in prison for just saying "fuck Tito"
What a true masterpiece, Rare Earth!
Such power, clarity and impartiality. Thank you.
Your videos are so fantastically structured, shot and edited, along woth having incredible information about the regions you visit. Truly a masterpiece
Talking about the Balkans?
Oh boy the comments will love this.
@@Languslangus nah I actually love the Balkans.
I just wanted to make a joke.
wait for next one lol it will be shitshow
@@Languslangus oh boi.
Now I'm curious about the details of Yugoslavia's economic woes, because it's never anywhere as simple as "the failures of (Soviet-style) communism". The notion of "bankruptcy", in particular, raises many questions; it's an incredibly _capitalist_ thing to be vulnerable to.
As far as I understand, it lasted as long as the economic aid kept coming. Also Tito took out a lot of debt, and that came back to haunt us after he was dead.
@@nikolabegonja5490 I read that the IMF became involved, which is always a bad sign.
SFRY was too heavily dependent on the Warsaw Pact/ COMCON for exports, it operated a market economy where you would have co-ops and other social enterprises running the factories instead of the state itself. Unfortunately when USSR etc stopped buying in the early 80's these co-ops which were less efficient and generally inferior to their western counterparts folded like a house of cards, inflation went up very rapidly and they never solved the supply side issues which nations like the UK did through neo liberalism.
@@apteropith because IMF only come hand when the problem starting to arise, that's it whole purpose. if economy is good, IMF shouldn't and can't intervene a nation economy policy. but when bed sign starting to arise, it's depend on the nation to listen to it or not. the problem with IMF is it's monopoly and too many nation depend on it's loans. which made it like global debt economic bubble.
@@absentmindedshirokuma8539 and it is used as an instrument to subdue small nations with debt
Wow, this is such a fascinating series, historical and political/philosophical thoughts in combination with incredible views of today's looks of countries, best fusion of historical and travel content that I have ever seen!
I applaud you tackling this vast and complicated part of the world through your lens! This is without a doubt my favourite series you have done so far. The photography is outstanding (it helps that where you are is so gorgeous), and you are NOT holding back on your opinion. It is nice to see an unabashed opinion for once in this world of wishy washy.
Many may not agree with your opinion, but at least it opens a venue for dialog on it!
Love watching your channel. Look forward to it all the time. Beautifully narrated and easy on the ear.. The diction and choice of vocabulary is brilliant. Too broke to contribute in patreon but I hope to soon.👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
I praise your narrative artwork in making history bare its sole. Give me more and more. Bravo! 💖😎
Even though I know I'll forget it a week later, I still love watching these history videos because you are such a great storyteller.
Very interesting, thank you! I look forward to the last episode in the series and then to rewatch the whole thing at once.
Good But No mention of :
His Narrow Escape from Nazis
His Fight against Partisan Forces
His Investments in Slovenia & Croatia
Unlike other Soviets his Reluctance to Enter Soviet Federation
Warsaw Pact
And his mass murders
Rare Earth, you are intelligent, you do your research and you are sympathetic with all your Documents, I appreciate and look forward every time and I learn something too!
A great video as always. I really enjoy your channel. Salutations from Bogotá, Colombia.
Your documentaries blow my mind. Thanks a bunch.
Another beautiful holistic and nuanced analysis and expose of a complex subject matter
First you listen to my advice, and then I also see my building! And, as always, great interpretation of really complicated story, over which people are still fighting here.
The first ruler who not only coined a term Yugoslav but also made it mandatory was King Alexander as a last ditch effort to quell the nationalism of it’s citizens.
Croatia? A lot of film footage from Slovenia, then Lindau in Germany. That was pretty random.
Seriously outstanding quality as usual
you forgot the best part about Pavelić after the independent state fell, he fled to the vatican under disguise and they actually let him stay
Derpwill na na na he fled to spain under francisco franko not vatican
@@theonewithmanynames3174 "He entered Italy disguised as a priest with a Peruvian passport.[citation needed] Passing Venice and Florence, he arrived in Rome in the spring of 1946 disguised as a Catholic priest and using the name Don Pedro Gonner.[131] On arrival in Rome he was given shelter by the Vatican[130] and stayed at a number of residences that belonged to the Vatican[131] while in Rome where he started to gather his associates. Pavelić formed the Croatian State Committee (Croatian: Hrvatski državni odbor) headed by Lovro Sušić, Mate Frković and Božidar Kavran.[132]" However, he did later on go to argentina, and then finally spain.
He fled to Austria. And tried to create a counter revolution during the elections in the 50s. His "spy" who crossed the border to start the revolution was caught by the army in Slovenia
I saw Ante Pavelić at a grocery store in Zagreb yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
@@LiquidCourage wtf
Another astonishing video. I look forward to Part 5.
Great work Evan. Your ability to make the complicated, accessible, remains second to none. The Balkans is the rump and the consciousness of Europe also today. The former Yugoslavia nonetheless remains work in progress.
Slovenes, Croats & Serbs are the smartest; the others will probably always remain a backwater
Thankyou for your videos Evan, Kata and Don.
RE been hitting the Dan Carlin lately and it shows. I’ve appreciated your series’ for a while and look forward to the next and following after.
I really like this series, job well done
Great presentation! I have always been interested in the Balkans. Beautiful lands and people caught in the jaws of History.
Great video as always
Damn dude you are a GREAT narrator! I could see your voice narrating parts of a Marvel movie or something like that (helps that these historical figures inspired a lot of comic book characters!). I notice an odd paradox in Europe- that the most beautiful places seem to be where the worst atrocities took place. Croatia, Poland, Germany. Those shots of Croatia are amazing, I'd love to go see it one day!
This series must have really took a LOT of research to develop.
Thank you for the hard work to inform & entertain us...honest.
I like the addition of the music.
Thank you!
very raw but true, my dude. totally different to the materials you used to do. very excited to see the next one. keep up the good work.
One of my FAVORITE UA-cam channels!!!!!
I was so suprised/amused when i walked into a pizzeria in Koper Slovenia and saw tito's face on the mantle above the bar.
3 years later i still regret not making a picture of it.
And I thought seeing crucifixes in Eurospin in Italy was weird lol
It is quite common to see Tito's photos in bars, pubs, restaurants and homes in Bosnia.
Part of the video from around 6:40 is actually a a pub in Sarajevo which is simply named "Tito".
Main streat in Sarajevo is still called "Ulica maršala Tita" and also in the video you can see a statue of Tito which still sits in the yard of Sarajevo university.
Many people to this day, even young ones who were like me born long time after Tito died, and Yu fell apart say "I swear by Tito" when they want to make you sure they are telling the truth.
@@mariocerin4105 Hrvat je tat.
After WWI, the western part of Slovenia was occupied by Italiy and the fascist Mussolini regime was treating those people very badly for more than 20 years.
So it was the Tito's communist army that liberated them from Italians in 1945, and that's why you'd see Tito's pictures still hanging around in that part of Slovenia. It feels weird to the rest of Slovenians just as well.
@UCeTaCN_o5DSjTkW-3xRyhOg After WW1 Littoral Slovenia came under Italy. The rest of Slovenia was first for one month In State of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs and after that it Joined to Serbia = Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. I suggest you brush your history before you comment.
Reading about the Serbian genocide is a horror story. I still don't get how human beings could sink to such depths.
Humans: "Wow, how could people have done this."
Also humans: "It's completely justified for us to do this because XYZ."
@@mariocerin4105 Hundreds of thousands of Serbs were murdered by the Croatian fascists.
Human beings don't sink into depths...We live in those depths ,and when veneer of so called civility lifts, We are the abyss.
@@mariocerin4105 No, that was Bosnian Serbs killing Bosnian Muslims.
Mario Cerin yes exactly the same! They live for ever! They are robots from the future! Read a book...
some of my great grandparents came from this beautiful country
I've never seen anyone so good at storytelling, huge respect!!!
Great job!
Best video yet, so well writen.
Flawed. Extremely flawed. Taking into serious consideration 50 year of intensive propaganda.
Great video, thanks.
This was perfect. 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
The only way I'd buy a souvenir hat from Croatia is if it said "Hrvatska" on the brim.
pscwplb and what do you think what is written on hats in croatia ??? I mean your comment is so useless
Interesting stuff, keep up the good work
what a beautiful place!
So Slovenia next? Cant wait! :) hope Evan is having a great time in Cuba!
I think he will talk about the war next time. Since he ended on that note
Slovenia is a footnote. I guess not.
@@red-eyedblackbird8048 footnote? lol we were the final nail in the coffin of yugoslavia.
I remember Tito. Yikes! I'm old!
lijepo je vidjet ovoliko Rijeke u videu, bez da je spomenu, znaš da je ona...svaka čast na videu!!!
An episode about Croatia??? Sign me the hell in
Darn shame that ideology can produce such evil, in the name of freedom, independence or even unity - a unity that ultimately pull people apart, even within a single family.
Went to Croatia 7+ times, always saw the bullet holes in the houses, I guess I should have read some more Wikipedia ...
Wow. Great video.
Violence begets violence,
It becomes part of life.
The curse of every generation,
Like a met expectation.
This one has to be the best one yet Evan.
Seems weird seeing my current and past country in this video. Also grounded and somehow cathartic. Amazing that one person bound us all together.
Thanks for another great episode.
Loving yet dreading these videos dropping on Saturdays. This is a heavy series marching towards ... well, you probably know because maybe you watched it on television, or if you were unlucky, lived through it. Even now, things are complicated, and violence could always flare up to the point we could be seeing parts of the the former Yugoslavia in media reports again. I'd rather see more on this channel about how things are shaking out in the individual bits and pieces left from the last big outbreak of violence. 😬
2:24 at least she has a tomb unlike the ones thrown into ravines
Which videos are episode 1, 2, 3 and 5? Gonna binge it later
Among the images you are using is one of the harbour of Lindau, a city at the lake constance in bavaria, which is, you know, not in croatia. So, either you made a mistake, or you just randomly wanted to throw in a testimony of your admiration for the beauty of Lindau, for whatever reason.
1:43
That section talks about Germany in the war so their use isn’t random. But yes, Lindau ist auf jeden Fall schön.
@@katahadfield alright, fair enough, my bad
@@kostek4430 omg thanks for explaining that. I thought that was the ocean and I was wondering where specifically (croatia or bosnia??). so beautiful!
Mario Cerin no you don't know history...
Croatia is an awesome and affordable destination! 👌👌
Well I mean, we are (morbidly) laughing
Come to Minas Gerais State - Brazil, you'll have countless stories to tell because a lot happened in the last few years and also because of its underrated history.
Imagina ele falando de Barbacena
@@henriquemelchiorgomes8750 Tem bastante história interessante que combina com o formato dele em Minas.
@@lucas9269 As barragens renderiam um baita vídeo pra ele
Ive seen the home made weapons from there, it makes the efficiency and strategy of any capatilist manufacturer of anything (much less guns/arms) seem like they're always outputting at 80% effeciency on a 24 hour 7 day work week, you'd still pump out twice the illicit guns as any legal (in any country) arms manufacturer to shame
So I couldnt imagine the stories
And Im just talking about the homemade or clandestine/illegally manufactured weapons ive seen online
I cant imagine the stories that go with that kind of output or the past behind it
Truly Id wish Id learned brazilian portugese instead of latin American Spanish as my second tounge, just to better understand the small personal recent stories behind such cleaverly created copies or artistic improvisation of regular produced (tarus, colt, FN, whomever) guns to shame
Except for rifiling
That seems to be the hardest part of such endeavor on the end of what Ive seen,( can a rifiling button not be bought off wish/from china?)that its either not done, or the barrel is just a regular handgun barrel cut into thirds from three inches to one(sorry, my meteric when speaking english sort of fails me, probably from being from "south detroit Canada" or "north windsor USA" in my english
But its truly incredible the feats of engineering bravado Ive seen to take a regular handgun barrel and make thay short thing into three and yet still get the accuracy in sub machine gun range, or speed of a bullet hose with accuracy Ive seen
Whod ever consider taking brass bar stock and turning that down to a chamber and most of the barrel till some rifiling is added, is either insane or on the verge of genius that Id not want to know the next frightening new novel, but incredible engineering shortcut nobody would consider using before, turning arms manufacturing into not just as blooming as estolchia california(california poppy) huge blooms in the west of mexico/US with the frightening artistry of the best jazz improvisation Ive been within earshot to witness
And Im just talking about the illicit arms manufacturing there
With no knowledge of the history
Im sure the history would break a frightening tear to any person claiming to have humanity for one's fellow man
Though where I come from, we could buy them in Detroit, or just make them in Windsor (using whats legal in windsor with some stray "american trash/parts" that somehow floated across the border
Till 3d printing and its pricefall down to 200 a machine, makes the manufacturing here scary and real, given the cross between random deserted factories in Detroit for the metal(and non registered parts) to be produced, and to simply spend the 6hours printing the "regulated" part
Sorry, ignore me, a long winded babbling former possibly addicted fool, to the current "blow/boy" epidemic thats ravengenged both sides of the "ambassador bridge"
Baking coedine and pyridine hcl we the insane old fools, wating on the actual epidemic of pestulance of covid/corona to cross the border, but at 2.3% death rate, even thats safer than going for a casual drive anywhere in the world in a motor vehicle, though waiting to take an entire generation of tje elderly with chronic health problems will be a shame to lose those stories too
Again
Babbling fool syndrome
Ignore me
Can somebody write down the locations that appear in the video? I could only recognize Pola
A classic Rare Earth episode.
I'll be visiting there really soon!
BiH or HR?
@@abyssstrider2547 dubronovic area!
@@BucketListAdventures Do you mean Dubrovnik orr...?
@@abyssstrider2547 oh my gosh I typed that awfully, yes I do. I'm really excited to explore a place I know nothing about
The lion and the lighthouse at the harbor entrance look exactly like the ones at Lindau on Lake Constance in Bavaria.
They are Lindau. That part of the script is talking about Germany. :)
The first part - lake is in Slovenia. Lake Bled.
Another great episode! I just feel like you're missing out on quality footage by not filming anything in Belgrade.
in bosnia compared to the kingdom of Yugoslavia days and compared to the post war times, economy during socialist Yugoslavia was by far the best
Even during the recession in the 80s the economy looked better compared to today lol
@@mkgzt indeed
@@tonypavko1968 it was a sotialist country therefore goods were not ridicilusly owerpriced likr in the west
You are very good.
There are a few too many liberties made, with regards to labeling and compartimentalizing the various groups, for me to like this video. It is a very well articulated perspective on the matter. An American perspective, obsessed with the triumph of capitalism, as the author chooses to envision it, over anything else.
that lake looks nice
its called lake bled and its in slovenia. Its beautiful
Shut up rocket man
@@billionairegrindset6785 you too spoon man
Always great shows. I would love for you to cover Korea or India
While I think a lot of this is well nuanced and true, I can't shake the feeling you avoided all nuance in the question of the church, and the only real statement made about the Croatian church is that the priests were involved in genocide. While some undoubtedly were, I find it odd that you even admit Tito persecuted political enemies, but don't seem to consider the possibility the church hierarchy may be included in that too, and that innocents were also killed.
There was a lot a people killed.All kinds of people,all over Eastern Europe.The communists were mad,and even if you didn’t wanted to be communists,the large powers divided up Europe.We Eastern European countries were just given to the Soviet Union,and the Bear leaned onto these countries heavily,militarily.
im just gonna leave this here Serbosjek ; a knife, for which a direct translation would be Serb cutting tool
simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srbosjek
Yugoslavia just happened to be where World War I and II started and when I was there at 16 in May 1992. Czechs and Slovaks and Russians were also involved. I do not remember half my life because of being MIA/POW with inappropriately treated Traumatic Brain Injury and PTSD and Traumatic Amnesia. Explains why I avoid family reunions where I was attacked since I was 4 and they are responsible with CIA and KGB involvement.
What labor camp? Goli otok, the place where he sent Stalinists? Good thing Guantanamo Bay is a Holiday In
Tito didn't care about the excommunication -- Catholic priests were wardens in several concentration camps within Croatia.
I read that as "The Crota Question". I think I've been playing too much Destiny
@Boots Jew I don't understand. Have I just be wooshed?
I can't believe you came to my city man lmao
Adjusted Patreon to reflect the value of the history.
There are some terribly tragic stories in history holy shit
Yes NOW go and book a trip for your vacation in Croatia!!!!!?????? The Croatian restaurants will serve the cache of the DAY Serbian meat . Greetings from LAS Vegas
Does anyone know where that Neon Tito café at 6:53 is and what it's called?
Cafe is in Sarajevo. Has a tank and several military equipment on its lot. Called "Cafe Tito"
Yikes! The good ole days!