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Why Pros Stopped Using 360Hz Monitors! (Back To 240Hz)
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Why Pros Stopped Using 360Hz Monitors! (Back To 240Hz)
Have you noticed that Pro Players have been downgraded back to 240hz, from previously playing on 360hz? Well in this video I go over the main differences between a 360hz & 240hz monitor which basically answers that exact question. Hope this helps!
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What Monitor refresh rate/Hz do you guys play on? (I'm still on 144Hz atm)
can you please change the settings of
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60hz hehe
144
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1) Fast IPS is almost the same as TN
2) Enable GSYNC (not optimal but better than dropping fps and stuttering)
3) I agree theyre overpriced
fast ips has way more motion clarity. tn is overall best for gaming
@@dylansubacz8056 tn was*
Id say it's great for csgo, valorant and any other games that are not very demanding
@@dylansubacz8056
What's the real difference when you are playing Counter strike: Global offensive and Valorant, aiming and reaction time should be marginally superior on IPS with higher hertzs, wouldn't it?, but I heard some people saying IPS still feels a bit laggy compared to TN panels, ence why some folks prefer TN over IPS still, I can see both arguments.
@@brucefly3612 counter strike is so bad on high fps. you get way better lows and fps on 240 then 360 the way the game is optimized. you will feel better smoothness and latecy for staying at a steady 240 instead of being at 360 and dropping fps a lot
The only reason you would choose a TN panel over an IPS panel is because you want to utilize DyAc on BenQ's xl2546k since no anti motion blur is currently better than it. That's the only reason. The best IPS panels are better or pretty much the same as the best TN panels in every way.
the acer 390hz monitor has something similar to benq’s DyAc, but at 390hz so it’s kinda insane. Idk why more people haven’t gotten this monitor yet it’s so good
@@Impecable.. its completely out of stock, i wanted to get one myself but the prices from third party sellers are just insane, 1,000+ there's no way i'm paying that much for monitor
@@Impecable.. wait wtf it’s only €550 I might buy it I mean most 360hz monitors are like €800
@@DeivyCabrera4250 it’s in stock wdym?
@@wJxcob it’s not in stock in the US, might be different for other countries tho
360hz don’t use IPS, they use a fast-IPS panel. Huge difference.
Let me tell you, pros no ducking whack about tech stuff. Nor peripherals, nor hardware, nor anything tech related, they're sportsmen, that are there for the result. TN Panels are not updated in recent years as much, as IPS does, all powers are going to IPS panel. Some of them already exceed everything older panels had to offer. The fact that they're switching, is because someone else, they trust, switched, and said "That's better", when he just put a thought in his brain, that swapping to it will make a difference and he just got what he was aiming, a placebo effect, he made himself believe, and now others believe that too.
Yeah lmao, I mean some of the new 360hz panels _ahem, Alienware_ have some pretty horrible ghosting, while others like the Acer nitro 390hz are absolutely amazing, with virtually zero ghosting because of a similar technology to benq’s DyAc. I think the pros switched back to TN is because they got bad ips panels from like Alienware/dell or ASUS and just thought that 360hz was too smooth or something lol
@@Impecable.. yep. Well, there is no point of having 360hz, the difference is small and it's much more stable on 240hz
bro IPS is better then TN 😂 yes tn have 0.5ms response time but no one use it because it cause ghosting so the TN users set it to 1ms like ips pannels + colors in ips are better then TN so i am going to ips 👍
My first monitor was a benq and i loved it but after switching to an Alienware I can say that IPS is better🤙🏻
Yeh idk what he’s talking I mean I did just get a pc and I went straight to 360hz so idk really know the difference but it feels great and I can get 360fps constantly in arena and I drop no lover then 200 in scrims and it feels great for me personally my opinion doesn’t matter much
Yes IPS has surpassed TN since a long time
The tn is better cuz if dyac
@@xel... nope you don't need dyac for tactical shooters where you reach those fps but for games like overwatch and warzone it maybe works
Damn it's impossible to decide from the comments, both sides argue the same thing
There are still many 240hz monitors that are on ips panels and let me tell you from experience of trying an Alienware 240hz a few months ago, it is not a game changing difference and they still have an extremely low response time
Yall need to review the 390hz acer monitor. It supports backlight strobing all the way up to the 390hz instead of 240 and its not as good as dyac but better than good enough which the other 360hz monitors don't have. Also it's 150hz difference instead of 120hz difference which isn't much but hey😅 also it was 450$ or 500$ which is great.
I got it, it's worse than my TUF TN panel, performance is amazingly smooth but still slower, I'm going to stick with TN panels, they are still better overall for gaming, IPS feels laggy and more oriented for video/picture editing, I like both though, I wouldn't change any.
IPS are basicaly coloured TN .... no huge differences of latency between these two
TN USED to be the fastest but IPS has 100% caught up
Acer AOPEN 25XV2Q Fbmiiprx 24.5" FHD (1920 x 1080) 390Hz HDMI DP FreeSync HDR IPS LED Gaming Monitor that’s what I have and it’s amazing. 450$ when I bought it from micro center. The reason they’re switching back to 240 has nothing to do with response time. It’s because you can’t hit a consistent 360 fps in battle royal/arena/late game. Pros would rather have a consistent 240 than an inconsistent 360. Also TVR (back light strobing) doesn’t work on the 360hz monitors when you set your display to 360hz. The acer 25XV2QF actually has backlight strobing that works when you overclock the 360hz monitor to 390hz. And all those guys are playing on 1080p monitors… The best graphics card for fortnite competitive settings @ 1080p is the 6900xt… it’s definitely better than the rtx 3090 which is a silly overpriced card to have if you’re not playing games in at least 2k or 4K. The 3090 shits on the 6900xt for 2k and 4K. I averaged 369.9 fps in 115 minutes of playing battle royal with my 390hz monitor and the frame limit for fortnite capped at 400. I have the 6900xt, r7 5800x, and 32gb of RAM (3600.) I have XMP and SAM enabled. Everything else is at default.
@@notblazedfordays9536 nope
Nope. Had to learn this by the hard way. Bought 3 240hz monitors, XL2546K, Aorus KD25F, VG259QM and the Aorus KD25F smokes both of them out. Now compare this to the HP Omen X25, no monitor can beat that monitor.
@@notblazedfordays9536 man I have a 10900k and a 3080 and 36gb or ram (3600) I need help with optimization
most 240hz monitors use -ISP- IPS , not TN , no idea where u get the info from , just because Zowie TN monitor are popular in esports doesn't mean it outsold other -ISP- IPS monitors
Just because the monitor handles 360hz doesn't mean you can't run 240hz on it
Exactly, just keep the 360 hz and lower it down to 240hz
If that’s the case it would be 240hz tn vs 240hz ips he claimed tn better
@@impo9645 the 360hz monitorrs have the technology gsync ultimate in the panels that causes high input lag even if you disable it .
its not high but just higher than some 240 hz monitors plus they have high ghosting (360hz one)
@@impo9645
That's because TN is still better, it feels overall less laggy than IPS, I have both 390 hertzs (IPS) and 280 hertzs (TN) and can tell the later one is less laggy when snapping on to targets, although the difference is marginal, they are incredibly similar performance wise, and the Acer nitro XV252QF 390 hertzs (my other monitor) feels incredibly smooth and also have better colours, but for gaming I will stick with TN till they get IPS monitors the same exact performance as TN or superior, they gap is really close now which is good.
Even an amateur doesn't pronounce IPS as "ISP", he doesn't even know what IPS means.
He can't reach that constant frame rate because dx11 and perf mode are broken ... If he stuck to it and ran dx12, he would have a consistent 360. Unsure of the 3090's dx12 performance, however with my 6700xt, 340-360 consistent with cap at 340 and freesync turned on
Its the input delay why everyone uses perf
I Switched from a benqxl2546 to an aw2521h and I dont regret it. Make sure to Upgrade your pc First to benefit from the high refresh. I use the 5800x and a rtx 2070 super. In csgo I have constant 500fps capped with drops to 400, in valorant uncapped 500-600 average
Since I have the 360hz monitor I improved a lot, went from dia3 to immortal 2 and from 2800 elo to 3100 elo in faceit. Ofc its not only the Monitor but he makes it easier.
Pro: better colors
I can clearly feel the difference, I can flick better
Gsync for singleplayer and non competetive games
I bought it on EBay for 300€ and I sold my old Monitor for 260€, so just added 40€ for a 2 months used monitor
-cons
The Monitor stand is pretty big
aw2521h?
@@user-kx7uh9qq1w Alienware monitor
What about now? I'm thinking of buying it or some other 360hz monitor..
@@markobozovic9012should pick ROG 360hz
@@mightybro439 i bought it a month ago, its great
I have the asus 360hz i turn on g sync when I’m playing warzone because I can’t hit 360fps but still great experience and far more superior and less input lag than any other monitor I’ve used. This monitor doesn’t have any input lag with g sync 😁
g sync is the best
@@NotFaderx ikr
What graphics card do you have?
@@tonykuz 3080 ti
I will be using an 360hz alienware.
Thanks for the update
Oh and one more thing on intel I-12900k with RTX 3080 or + reaching 360/350 fps is easy. Oh and don't forget next season or chapter we are going on the Unreal Engine 5. Which is way better optimized then UE4
can you please change the settings of
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Th0masHD
would be awesome!
360hz monitor have better/less input delay and just because you have a 360 Hz monitor it doesn’t mean you need to run games at 360fps
you can just cap at 240fps until you upgrade to a powerful enough gpu and Fornite i a cpu heavy game anyway and if bugha only has as 10900 cpu, intel now has 12900 cpu and AMD are better anyway
Watch framechasers
I feel that the comments are giving better information what the video is saying
IPS > VA > TN in every aspect. That thing with the performance not being good on IPS is thing from the past.
TN BETTER VA 100X for competetive
@@laurentgrondin5793 yh but I ain't dealing with dogshit colours
IPS color are better Bowie monitors are ugly asf
Va it's good but my opinion IPS better
Today a decent custom loop 12900/3090 machine costs $7-8K all in. To limit that to 240/TN you might as well pick a pc out of the trash.
there is no way you’re saying they don’t want to use a 360hz monitor because it’s an ips panel… and you can argue that the colors are just as important as reaction time. The refresh rate difference at this point in time is so small that this makes absolutely no sense. DyAc is a really yo go back to 240hz, but that seems like the only reason from this video that makes sense.
if we're talking about professional players i'd imagine they would want to practice on whatever is going to be available to them at tournaments. no point in getting good with exotic hardware if at the tournament you can't use it.
Man you convinced me to go with the legendary benQ xl2546k :-)
The real reason is that is that they are still using them in competition. They dont want to get used to things they cant use all the time.
Man says ISP panels and I instantly stopped trusting anything he had to say
although a year later I ended up getting a AW2724HF which is 360hz. Cost me 255, 270 on sale and used my dell rewards to cut off £15, I literally will use it for UA-cam, 16:9 gaming and rhythm games. I use my AW3423DW for all my AAA games but as its OLED I would rather not burn in my static UI on my rhythm games, its also 21:9 so wouldn't play anything 16:9 as it just creates black bars either side. Would have loved to have got myself the 500hz or 540hz monitors but I am not paying that much for a TN panel ever.
Can we get a vid of you playing the game I just want to see how you play/settings you play on
Chat the sports center only supplies 240hz for tournaments so their adapting 😅
Even fps not reach 360 hz its still smoother than any of 240 hz monitor - have 2740 benq and Asus pg259q !
Bro said Isp
one day there might be 390hz monitors with as good stuff as 240hz
lol there is now
@@BigBootyJon I said that 8 months ago
What about the upcoming 500Hz Asus monitor ?
4:28
Showing a Crysis picture on the 360 panel when not even the most powerful GPU in the world can push 120fps on the game xD
😂
well u need to have the 4000 series for this, also depend on which game, if u cant have over 360hz then its worthless, but if u cna then is awesome, u have games like overwatch 2 csgo or league of legends etc, which are much easier to hold high refresh rate, probably on the 5000 series u would be able to have always over 360 easily.
this claim that "TN is a lot better performance than IPS" is just not true.
sure, technically it has lower response times, but how much difference do you think there actually is there? 2ms? 1ms?
just for reference, going from 240hz to 360hz reduces average frame times by 1.4ms, so even if the IPS panel is 1ms slower than the TN you're still gonna be 0.4ms faster on average anyway (which still shouldn't matter because below 3ms you're already talking about negligible differences to humans).
Fast IPS panels has faster rise time and total response time than the fastest TN panel. Although the fall time on TN panels are faster but I would just say Fast IPS is simply better.
@@3jesus3christ3 im not claiming it's not better, i'm claiming it's not "a lot" better.
3ms is not a lot.
"you will have a bad experience if your fps doesn't meet or exceed your refresh rate". I have not found this to be true in the slightest. 240hz on Counter-Strike 1.6 (capped at 100 fps) is WAY better than 144hz option. Try it if you don't believe me.
They could've changed to 240hz in their 360hz monitor in refresh rate settings lol
panel technology isn't the same, image quality etc
If you have a 360hz monitor, don’t sell it. Just set the refresh rate to something lower in the monitor settings, so you’re at least future-proofed for when you get hardware strong enough for 360hz.
helps but the main problem would be that 360hz monitors aren't advanced enough to provide the same quality as 240hz even at a locked 360fps
Good tip for new gamers but...
I feel like a person shouldn't own a 360hz monitor without knowing this lul
@@lyubomir1202 sometimes mom and pop get you a monitor for christmas not knowing exactly what it is.
@@CR0WYT that's true
todays ips pannels are really good for gaming, i have asus tuf 144hz 1ms ips
0:49 "iSP Panels"
Wow I never knew this thx
@Codelife just do a test between IPS and TN panels...... on a quality model there should be 0 difference by now in terms of response time. < that statement that tn panels are faster i think is outdated by now.
nah he didn't just say isp panel man wtf
they need to try the 390hz aopen monitors
THIS ^^^ all of the other 360hz ips panels (like Alienware or ACER are trash and have horrible ghosting
I have Acer nitro XV252QF 390 hertzs and is literally worse than my TUF gaming 280 hertzs for playing games, it feels slightly laggier when snapping on to targets, I'm using only for editing and web browsing since it has better colour accuracy and smoothness to it, I'm thinking on changing it, but I will say this, it feels incredibly smooth for an IPS, it's only marginally inferior to good TN panels, I'm amazed how similar they play performance wise, the gap between monitor types is very close, I don't think many will tell the difference, both are good choices depending on what you are looking for.
ty for this info homie
He is more dumb than Trump
an explanation most pro csgo players play with a sensitivity of 400dpi, you will notice micro stuttering and a little input lag if you play at 400dpi on a 360hz screen, the source engine is optimized for 400/800dpi, which is ideal for a smooth experience on a 360hz screen is 1600dpi and lower its sensitivity in game
You mean mouse latency? And here I am using 3000+dpi on a 120hz display.
Bro I paid 700 for my Alienware 360hz and now that shit is 550 it’s not that much and I wouldn’t complain
Annnnd your thoughts on the new PG27AQN?
With the 360 or 380hz monitor u must use a display 1.4 cable & not a HDMI !!!
the new 390 hz is muc better form acer it got 0.5ms delay ips and gsync/freesync and 390hz and its cheap.
tout les écrans maintenant on g sync et freesync et c'est pourri pour les jeux compétitifs
When 480 hz ministers release… you best believe my dumbass is copping that 😂
🥵🤣
Really man I got my brand new AW2523HF 360hz WLED gaming monitor for 350$ brand new never opened and im running 360 FPS on R6 with a 5600x and 3070 and soon im upgrading to a 4080 Super 5800x3d I have zero issues getting High FPS but I play CSGO Rainbow almost all of my games I play is who ever has better hz wins in R6 I switch from a 165hz monitor to a 360hz and man its so smooth I play 5x better my headshots are very accurate my flicks are accurate my recoil seems better I react MUCH faster than the enemy using Nvidia Reflex the color is very good 24.5 inch monitor vs my 27 inch pixel density is good my entire gaming performance has gone through the roof I play much much better at 360hz and you know the Best part If I want to I can go to 360hz 300hz 240hz something your monitor cant do get 360hz 300hz 240hz and my monitor comes with anti glare screen and Gsync and HDR10 AND THAT SWEEEEEEEEET IPS panel Dont listen to this guy he is too poor to afford something better if you want good performance in Fortnite play on low settings with a X3D Cpu with a 4080 Super OC maxed at 1080P
He is not too poor but you are too ignorant my guy. This video was posted almost 3 years ago, where OLED technology was NOWHERE NEAR what we have today so it makes totally sense. The 4080 and 7800x3d were not even out yet and saying that buying better specs gets you more fps does not surpirse anybody. He talked about how most 360hz panels are ips and it was true at the time of recording so instead of being ignorant and flexing your setup stop for a second and think. Another think is that you play very little demanding games, old hardware can get 500fps on siege and ths video is about fortnite, even saying that bugha with a 3090 could not get stable 360 fps so you neither which makes me wonder whether you have actually watched the video or only came to flex your mediocre setup and new monitor. The price argument is also valid as high refresh rate monitors, especially oleds too, are quite expensive right now and 95% of even hardcore gamers are not willing to spend as much on a monitor. You got a nice deal cool but dropping close to $1k on a monitor is a no for most normal people. i have a monitor with the same panel as you and it is great but I can not imagine writing such an arrogant, ignorant and selfish comment like yours. Well money does not buy intelligence or maners after all I guess.
"ISP Panels"?! 😆
Best response time?normal/fast o faster
ive never heard anyone complain about ips panels instead of tn although it does make sense since the lower response time
2k TN panels are difficult to find in the market. I am color blind and I play Pubg. I cannot see black men nearby.
Mongraal has an XL2540 which is older and worse than an XL2546K.
Can you play 240 on a 360hz monitor?
Alienware aw2521h 360hz is $379 and aw2521hf 240hz is $349 at microcenter right now
Just turn on gsync even with it on the input lag is much lower than 240hz naturally due to the higher refresh rate.
Give leStripeZ credit smh
What about if I get like 180fps and I have a 360hz monitor ?
Kinda bullshit. Evryone is diffrent but TN destroys ur eyes. U cant watch movie cuz all color looks so bad. Even the games. I bought 360hz and it has like 20 stuff in the settings. What i am saying is that 360hz is worth it for those who can aford it. Im using 1650 at moment. But i had rtx 3070
facts!. i got the 25 AW 360hz for 379.00 dollars like 2 weeks ago. I also have a work station with 38 AW i got back in may of this year.
Why a TN panel would destroy your eyes and an IPS panel wouldn't do it? 😄
@@novell80 they don't know what they r talking about
@@tibodoz5108 Absolutely...😄
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Acer 390hz better than the Zowie
Zowie better than everything else
Yes, but worse than the TUF gaming 280 hertzs TN, I have Acer nitro XV252QF 390 hertzs and feels a bit laggy compared to the TUF, I would recommend IPS over TN only if you multitask aside from gaming, for gaming TN is still superior performance wise.
Haha is this a trolling video?
Bro said ISP panels 💀💀💀💀
lol
Cause BenQ didnt realeased a 360Hz with dyAc till today^^
Is my 12900ks, 3090 Ti pushing 500fps ok on my asus pg259qnr 360hz monitor? Not sure why going backwards would be good
same. i have 3080 ti and i9-11900kf
what monitor does bugha use right now?
Ah I see the NT and ISP panels.
so a 1ms 24ohz is superior refresh rate than 1ms 360hz?
No
No… the technology with the 240hz moniters is just stronger and better making the 240hz more clearer and less buggy than the 360hz
@@dNEARb bro whats the best 240hz monitor for comp wich have the best input lag
I love your British excent
If I do have a 360hz monitor but still wanna run 240hz in fortnite is there anything I need to do to run it optimally? like in nvidia control panel, ecT?
Almost all 360hz monitors come with the ability to switch from 360hz to 300hz to 240hz to 165hz 144hz 120hz and lower
acer x25 360hz monitor available here for 400€/440 USD. it's insane
Disliked with my 360 monitor
my IPS 240hz 0.3ms mprt monitor is way better than my previous 240 TN AOC Agon , like millions of times, in quality and performance
But speaking of IPS vs TN only, IPS with stuff like FREESYNC PREMIUM PRO n stuff like this its just insanely good
What monitor would u recommend rn?
@@freePalestine237 240hz IPS 1ms for sure, its like ... best upgrade ever, its so much easer to spot the quality differences
Id say Alienware
GUYS GUYS GUYS should i put anything in additional command line arugments? its in epic games settings.
I cant find teh gamesetting channel
they can js turn on 240hz and they have a 1ms response time and they are a little bit cheaper now the asus xg259qn is only 421 and its 380hz and 0.3 ms of response time but yea ips and and tn offer the same amount of performance
alienware "fast ips": 💀💦
Oled 360hz is better or tn 540 asus
Do fortnite potrzebny jest ten monitor 360hz czy 240?
I dont know how but 360hz monitor is cheap on my country. when converted it around 500 Pound.
IPS is great and unless u need DyAc then it really is the best
Xg2431 does thae back-light strobing better then the benq benq just simply been beaten also the xg2431 is a ips panel
im on 80Hz the fuck
360 and 390 are better for high fps games with low graphics like minecraft pvp, rythm games such as osu! and geometry dash
You not need it for minecraft, Osu, geometry dash. 360hz and 390hz monitors are for games like csgo, valorant, fortnite, and rainbow six siege.
@@CodeVenomSnakes I agree on the games u mentioned
Just wait for oled
Idk 360 hz with the new software ulmb2 it looks like 1000 hz so butter I know this video is old but look into it. It’s a game changer. Its better than the dyac software from Ben Q
ASUS?
his cpu is now not top of the line cuz of the 12th gen intel cpus lol
Bro pls make video about middle east servers
They are very broken (epic games broke it)
So like I over clocked my frames and monitor and so I have it on 237 fps but I still can use 360hz at the same times I'm not gonnasay the method but what u will say it's kinda like over clocking something except its more useful
If u don't get more than 237 frames refresh rate bove 237 won't do shit
@@devinddst7467 oh the method I did worked I just never share it
@@N1CKTTV1 🤦♂️ ur brain is to small aint it. U can play on 360hz monitor but with 237 fps u will inly see that amount of frames
fast ips is as good as tn , no one is using 360 bc u cant have stable 360fps in high stacked games
Lol ISP panels?? Bro take this video down man.. I've got both a TN and IPS Asus Rog 360hz monitor. The TN Asus one sucks so bad and the image quality is poor, compared to the IPS
the best 240hz monitor is the viewsonic xg2431, its also better at removing blur than the benq and its pretty cheap
what about the 390 one?
Also lan are returning soon and they will not have their monitors
Thanks for saving me my money