Using your thunderbolt 1 or 2 port for usb-c, thunderbolt 3, 4 and 5 devices.
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2021
- Yes i say firewire one time in the video. I suppose to say thunderbolt. Sorry
Keep to these 3 docking stations for peace of mind. they will work with the M1 macs to.
CalDigit Thunderbolt Station 3 Plus, OWC Thunderbolt 3 Dock, Elgato Thunderbolt 3 Dock.
the CalDigit TS3 Plus Dock is even sold through apple's own website, at a fair price. here is the link:
recomended dock:
www.owc.com/solutions/thunder...
The price to preformance is the best value and i have had no issues at all running it with my Macs
A thunderbolt 2 port can transfer data 4x the speed of a usb3 port. And it would be nice to make use of it. There is a problem in using adapters for new thunderbolt 3 and usb-c devices though. This video addresses the problem, tells you why it don't work right of the bat, and shows a solution to this problem. - Фільми й анімація
Amazing! Thanks so much ❤
Thank you so much, I was struggling why my T5 was not getting recognised in my iMac(tb2) though i connected with same adapter. Need to buy a docking station.
Thank you!
Thanks for this Video... To sum it all up. I want to connect my USb Hard Drive to my new Mac Thunderbolt connection. I would need the Adapter and the Power Dock right ?
If its a Thunderbolt 3 or 4 u only need a cabel. These supply power. If your Mac only has Thunderbolt 1 or2 you need this. Hope that helps☺️
Hi Old Guy ~ To preface, TB = Thunderbolt. As you seem to have a good understanding of Apple cabling, in general, I was wondering what your thoughts are on this Apple cabling dilemma. Specifically, I'd like to use our older MacBook Pro 15 (with TB 2 ports) with the newer TB3/TB4 cables. Why? Well, when one considers the insane cost of TB cables, it makes zero sense to invest in old TB cables, which are also very expensive. In addition, it's always a great idea to buy things that have a longer life-cycle (aka, "future proofing"), so I'd rather put our limited funds into more modern cabling ... and I just thought of a specific example. What if you wanted to use the older TB2 ports with a newer TB3 or TB4 external drive? I realize that the transfer speeds will be limited by the "weak link" in the transfer path, but, once again, I'd rather put our hard-earned into newer cabling. I've both liked and subscribed, so please keep on making these informative videos. Cheers! 👍
you will need power if you whant to adapt thunderbolt 1 and 2 to 3 and 4. and for that you need a dockingstation. i recommend the owc thunderbolt 4 dockingstation.
not shure if there is other questions in your post . but please elaborate if there is :)
Well explained Bro,
Thanks.
Am having issues connecting my iPhone with a lightning cable to my 2015 Macbook Pro.
Do you know if a TB 2 to TB3 adapter will work if I connect via a type C cable?
i can look in to it if its a general problem many people expirence :) but always use airdrop myself
@@OldGuyNewTech Alright Bro. Thanks.
I just confirmed that I need an original lightening cable to be able to connect to my mac via cable. I tired with one and it worked.
Hi I like your video...but I am not sure about the connector ends you are describing. Is the "firewire" cable you describe a firewire 800 cable on both ends or other...and the adapter has a usb c connector on one end the the female end is firewire 800 or thurnberbolt 1?
misspoken. I meant thunderbolt in that one instance I said FireWire. But the principal is the same with a FireWire cable. You just need a different adapter then. But great catch by you, noticing that I misspoke. Sorry and you absolutely right
You will need a thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter for this setup then you can use both thunderbolt 1 and 2 ports to run usb c devises.
If you want to use your FireWire port you need a FireWire to thunderbolt 3 adapter but other than that same steps are needed. But you will need a different adapter then. Sorry again for the mixup
A FireWire port do supply some power though. How much depends on the version of the FireWire. So the dock might not be needed depending on how much power the device needs.
1.5 amps and 8-30 volt. And that will not be enough to run a hard drive like in the video. So you will still need the dock😊 so same principle different adapter
So short answer is I ment thunderbolt 2 or 1. I would buy a thunderbolt 2 adapter and cable as it works for the thunderbolt 1 to. It’s backwards compatible with the 1 version
Thank you for this, very interesting. Does this mean in theory that one could connect any usb c device to an older mac with this method? For example, a usb c audio interface to 2012MBP?
Thank you again.
Yes sir. any usb- c device would work ;)
You save me
I was struggling with the resolution on my Huawei mate view gt with my MacBook Air 2015.
I have a thinkpad dock station gen 2 from Lenovo which should be good to connect my mac/thunderbolt/usbc/monitor connection
But I'm not not quite sure how charging would come on place?
@@ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ538 if there is a question in there can rephrase ?
So that mean I can buy this adapter and use it with any hub with power supply
Funciona con un tb 2 y el adaptador de Apple en un mackbook pro 2015
Si. Y un dockingstation con 85watt y mas
Hi Old Guy
Great video!
I was wondering if you know how could I connect a thunderbolt female from MacPro 13 mid to a HP Docking Station having a male USB C conector..?
I bought a USB C input to HDMI output and connected to a Male Thunderbolt cable that has a HDMI input but its not working
I would really appreciate if you could guide me
Gracias 🙂
You need a different adapter. Don’t use hdmi. Adapt using the thunderbolt 2 to 3 adapter shown in the video and use a male/male thunderbolt cable like in the video between the Mac and the adapter if needed. Your problem is just like in the video. Chers the old guy
Thunderbolt can speak usb. But even though you can adapt usb and thunderbolt to hdmi your setup will not work. Because hidm don’t speak either usb or thunderbolt. you are creating a setup where everything can run against the hdmi but gets stuck there.
De nada
I don’t know what cable you’re using to the hub?
I can only see TB 3 to TB2, not the other way around
Im plunging same setup in to the dock as I did into the hard drive. A thunderbolt cable from the iMac to the adapter and then the thunderbolt 3 end of the adapter into the dock. From the dock to the hard drive I just use the cable that the hard drive came with😉 hope that helps
@@OldGuyNewTech that’s perfect! Thank you 😊
Even though this is gear for Mac Users, How would I connect a PC to a Thunderbolt 3. The PC has USB 3.1 Thunderbolt which is older than thunderbolt 3.
The error message is Limited Functionality. In Windows Device Manager recognizes the brand G-Drive PRO SSD, but Disk Management does not see this drive because it comes formatted for apply computers and Apple OS. To reformat it I need to partition first and reformat it, but Disk Management does not see this drive. I may want to get an internal card with USB thunderbolt 3. Or a caddy that has thunderbolt 3.
Hi helmet. You are confusing the concepts a bit I think😊 usb and thunderbolt is not the same. But thunderbolt speak usb. Unfortunately usb don’t speak thunderbolt. That means u can run a usb device from a thunderbolt pc but you can’t run a thunderbolt device from a usb only pc if the usb data transfer is not large enough to run the device properly
You should be able to reformat the hard drive in a different file format though 😉 I use both windows and Mac OS and try to format my drives in ex fat as both system support that☺️ if there is other questions in your post that I did not catch please ask again. The post was very dense 😅
Hi. Would this work to connect a 2013 Mac Pro to a 43-inch Monitor via USB-C? Thanks.
if the the the monitor is connected via usb-c yes it would. you just put the dock in between like shown here
but monitors have there own power supply so you proberbly only need the thunderbolt 2 to 3 adapter adapter.
what is the name of the hub that works on thundbolt 2 macpro
I put recomendations for docks in the decription☺️
that model and brand of hub that works for thunderbolt 2
recomended docking stations in the decription. and You need a adapter plus the dock. Watch the video and read the text ;)
Hi,
Have you tested this thunderbolt adapter on macbook pro M1pro 2021 version thunderbolt 4 for the port?
I have an Apollo thunderbolt 2 sound card and a UAD Sat Firewire that I would like to make compatible.
I have the OWC thunderbolt 2 dock (12 port) model.
Thanks in advance.
It Works the same Way 4 is backwards compatible with thunderbolt 3👍🏽
@@OldGuyNewTech Feedback soon thanks very much.
WTF, I am hearing that power issue for TB 1/2 for the first time. Are you really 100% sure about it? Is there any technical document by Apple or any other source? To be honest, I am still not convinced, because even the older FireWire standards had power... and if the next interface is more modern and advanced, why should it not supply power anymore... BTW, did you try any other external drives or enclosures? Did you try a different connection order? As far as I remember, there were TB1 Lacie drives, that work with their simple TB cable. No extra power needed. (I will try to find some more info on this matter)
A tb 1 and 2 do transfer some power. But it’s not as straightforward as the tb 3 and 4 power supply. Using that power transfer was not standard on tb 1 and 2 like it is on the 3 and 4 protocol. On 1 and 2 it was an option and only up to 10watts I think. And the adapter does not transfer power either even if the tb 1 and 2 were able to. So its an adapter problem to.
support.apple.com/en-qa/111753
Scroll down and read the last section.
the copper-based version of the Thunderbolt protocol can deliver 18 V at 550 mA (9.9 W max). Presumably all Thunderbolt cables are built to this spec and can handle that kind of power passing through them. Whether the connected device can supply that kind of power is another question that can only be answered by looking at specific devices.
Thunderbolt over an optical, instead of copper, connection would not be able to carry any power with the data signal. I note this only because Thunderbolt was original designed to be an optical protocol; though its since been adapted to copper.
@@OldGuyNewTech OMG, I never thought about that over-priced Apple Adapter being the culprit. Really hard to believe that Apple produces and promotes such a limited product... not to mention that it is the one and only adapter. What did they think ?!?!? 🙈🧠💨🤥🙃🤮
I’ve only just found this out as well. It’s only cost me about £550 for my mistake.
That’s about £50 for apples TB2 to TB3 adapter plus TB2 lead.
About £200 for a Caldigit elements hub.
£200 for a 4tb SSD and about £100 for an external ssd enclosure.
The hub lights up with a blue light when the TB cable from the Mac is plugged in and the enclosure lights up green, but alas no SSD showing on the desktop. Thought I was finally going to get some use out of the remaining 5 TB2 ports on my Mac. Clearly I was wrong.
Does anybody know if usb c 3.2 speeds of up to 10gbits are achievable? Like a Samsung T7 would make use of?
It Will support up to 10gbit White the adapter in the video
But even though thunderbolt 2 can run 20gbits you can still only get 10gbit when adapting to usb devices. But you can get 10gbit on both
Does this work with the Apollo Twin? I have a thunderbolt two plugging into an Apple thunderbolt 3 port adapter then into my thunderbolt 4 and it’s not working, any help?
You need a dock with power in between. Just Like in the video. You need the Dock to power your devises. The adapter can’t transfer power only data.
I have a short explaining the power issue specifically.ua-cam.com/users/shortsYfHWiL0Q900?si=oeuMgXdlWGTncvNx
@@OldGuyNewTech well the Apollo is already powered itself so that’s why I’m confused that it doesn’t work?
@@CamKap My RME UFX+ is thunderbolt 2. All I needed was a Apple TB 3/4 to TB 2 adaptor, via a Thunderbolt 2 cable, to get my Mac Studio M1 (Thunderbolt 4) to talk to the RME UFX+ (Thunderbolt 2). Are you saying your Apollo twin is thunderbolt 2, and the computer thunderbolt 4, or the other way around? If the Apollo twin is thunderbolt 2, it should work same as my RME, I would have thought? Although what I did do first off, was download a thunderbolt driver, from RME, and then use it inside of Totalmix on the Mac Studio M1.
@@POGFROGULPOPYes that is correct, I just got a new laptop and my laptop is Thunderbolt 4 and my Apollo Twin is thunderbolt two, I used to have a thunderbolt 3 laptop and the Apple adapter worked fine and now it doesn’t work with my thunderbolt 4 laptop, does this mean I need the hub?
What hub is this?
Its not a hub. Its a Thunderbolt 3 Dock from OWC. Then only 3 Dock brands i recommend is OWC, caldigit and elgato. Hubs will not work as they don’t have their own power supply.
it's also called a docking station. but keep to the 3 brands i mentioned below. they will work with the new m1 macs to. i know they are a bit expensive starting from 200$, and they are out of stock many places. but don't go down other routes as you will regret it. there are starting to come out thunderbolt 4 docks, but it aint worth it. the speed is the same, they cost even more and they are all out of stock. and all computers coming with thunderbolt 4, will run the thunderbolt 3 dock great as they are backwards compatible. and again the transferespeed is not improved on the 4 compared to the 3. And we can hope that the thunderbolt 4 docks will make the 3 docks cheaper and more in stock ;)
I have added some more information in the description to :)
The new thunderbolt 4 hub from owc has its own power supply and puts out enough watts to run these hard drives. So some hubs can. but i would just get a dock as this hub costs 2/3 of the dock price and you might as well get the more ports of the dock :)
@@OldGuyNewTech well now and all cheap, can we have a scheme to put an external tanderbolt SSD?
The info in this video is totally incorrect, you say FireWire at one point and it isn’t, and also the Samsung T5 isn’t thunderbolt it’s only USB C which is why it won’t show up on a thunderbolt connection.
Hi James i admit I say FireWire. Where I was supposed to say thunderbolt. That’s my bad. But thunderbolt 3 ports and cables support usb C. But just think thunderbolt instead of FireWire that one time where I accidentally say FireWire and it’s all good. And I promise the info is 100% correct. Don’t get hung up in one word champ✌🏽Cheers
And read the explanation I give to the person commenting about the FireWire to.
@@OldGuyNewTech Your correct in the fact you can't connect devices this way with this adapter which maybe due to power I don't know, but the drive you have plugged in would have never worked because you are trying to connect a USB C only drive to a thunderbolt connection. Your hub probably supports USB C which is why it works when you plug it into that.
@@jamesalexanderbarnettdp9479 no sir. The thunderbolt 3 standard supports usb c. But when you adapted a thunderbolt 2 port to a thunderbolt 3 device you have the right port to support usb c but you don’t have the 100 watts power that a the native thunderbolt 3 port have. If you use at usb c hard drive with it’s own supply it works without the dock.
@@jamesalexanderbarnettdp9479 I promis I’m right. I’m sorry I messed up that one word one time. I can se why people get confused by me saying FireWire. Don’t know why that came out of my mouth😅 but was thinking people could see trough the mess up.