It's interesting to me how many (very) different groups are coming to the common solution of native plants. Hunters, ranchers, environmentalists, conservationists, birders, municipalities that are dealing with flooding and/or erosion. The list seems to grow larger all the time.
There's a lot of middle ground. There is incredible ecological value with native plants... there is also incredible ecological value with non natives and 'invasive' plants. The 'natives are better' view, by default, is simply not true and this way of thinking can actually cause a lot more damage trying to chase the past than learning to live in the present.
I planted 23 acres into native prairie on my property in SE Iowa, which is mostly covered with cool season grasses and woods. There are also three ponds and 70 acres of clover/brome hay ground. For some odd reason, the deer really REALLY like this property.
Greg Judy is utilizing the Kentucky 31 endophyte infested fescue on his properties in the only sensible way that reduces the risk of fescue poisoning to a bare minimum. Which is to rotate his cattle and sheep from paddock to paddock as many times per day as the season and plant growth requires in order to eliminate the possibility of the fescue being eaten down to the bottom 6" of plant height above the soil. This rotational management is done until sufficient frosts have occurred to reduce the toxin levels in the plants to negligible levels until new growth begins to occur the following spring.
Through our rotarions and biannually sowing we try to make conditions primed for clover. To the extent the cows have 50/50 or more clover. The solution to pollution is dilution. Lol
Greg Judy loves his Kentucky Fescue 31 mixed in his vast mix of native grasses. I have seen several yrs of winters showing off how much green grass he has under the snow for is year round foraging of South Pols cattle.
@@bradjenkins932 Lol, he has proved himself by owning 500 head, managing and buying up farms, vastly improving the land, has grass abundantly thriving thru droughts and heavy rains. No buildings needed, rarely a vet, no hormones, chemicals used, just tall green grass.
@@safffff1000 I have studied and worked in Botany in cattle at OSU for 19 years. What he is not tell you is .That KY 31 has endophytes.. Witch cause foot and leg problems, reduced weight gain and milk production, reproductive problems and more.
@@thomascushing3760 that was due to new farming practices actually. 🤓 it was new to them and it only seems old because of the time that had passed since then
my dad bought 2140 acres of mountain land in nw ark in the 1990s-i moved there and at the time they were spraying 24d herbiside on the forest and den overseeding w fescue w a helicopter-after 1 yr those hills were lush w fescue but in a few years fescue foot reared its ugly head but the locals managed thru today-dad just left the native fields native and we had boocoo deer and turkey-some tyson execs bought that place to hunt-man there were big old mountain bucks up there-got lots on my mantle-sure wish he had kept that ranch but he moved on the sw missouri to another place w no deer-sad
@@dungeonmaster6292 i digress-it was 1975-sorry-he paid 235k-sold in bout 2009 for 888k and got 135acs and a 5k sq ft house in sw misery-i shoud spell ck better but i prob wont
Fescue bothers cows a lot more than my sheep. They eat the seed heads with no adverse affect due to the way they metabolize it. Fescue is the gift that keeps on giving!
@@williammisener2389 Our observation is that it continues to grow throughout the winter, though maybe slowly at times and in our DNGs it’s a real quality boost to the brown, dormant grasses.
Did you buy the mixer of seed? I am also in Missouri I thought about other round of fire in my pasture. But I want to no till drill seeds and wildflowers back into soil.
Well, at least it isn't as bad as Bahia or Bermuda in places like Florida where native grasses were completely eradicated and now vast areas are covered in one of those species. Not that I am advocating for fescue.
It's at least one of the reasons quail populations have crashed. Quail chicks are adapted to fed and stay protected in native clump grasses. They can't get through fescue or other creeping grasses.
Do you think starting a native grassland project would be funded by the fed? They want us to plant the native plants in from the East coast over here in the Pacific Northwest. We are hoping to start a native plant nursery for ecological restoration. subscribed. I am from a mono-culture wheat farm. Check out the youtube.
You could try some cover crops too. Would make your wheat happier. Check out what browns ranch gets up to with diverse cover crop mixes and native plants if you’re interested. They do great. Very successful. Another great grain farmer to look into is Bob Quinn. His book grain to grain is on audible, and his story and farm he describes is great
*The last thing that any intelligent practitioner of regenerative agriculture should want in their business and personal lives is ANY form of governmental interaction or interference. PERIOD! Governments are good at two things, and two things only. First is to pass laws and enforce regulations that allow them to steal money from their citizens in the form of fees, licenses, and taxes. Second is the government's facility at finding any and all means, legal or illegal, to perpetuate themselves as a governmental entity, as departments within a governmental agency, or as individual government employees. THAT'S IT. Everything else is secondary, tertiary, quadrenary, etc. to those two desires and requirements. The true ultimate welfare of any citizen NEVER factors into a government agency's equation when decisions are made. WHAT IS BEST FOR GOVERNMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.*
I bought 36 acres of high desert in the mid nineties and immediately fenced it off with my own money to protect some of God’s Creation from the over-grazing of “free-range” cattle. Too many folks are willing to sacrifice something to government while standing in line for tax-dollar support. That mentality has helped to grow our once Republic into the mostly socialist government we have today. Think multiple repercussions. Like it or not. They do happen.
Birds foot trefoil grows naturally on our farm. Never sowed it. Try to buy a bag based on "giving the ground what it likes to grow" and feed store had a terrible time trying to get it. Btw, the cows do good on it but it's not their favorite. Highway rightofways around here are covered in it.
Nature’s “system” of re-inhabiting abused soil with opportunistic progressions of vegetation over time challenges the patience of humans that childishly demand immediate change now.
Amy, Liz and I was sorry to hear of Rex's passing. I always like talking with him. You and your kids will miss him.
It's interesting to me how many (very) different groups are coming to the common solution of native plants. Hunters, ranchers, environmentalists, conservationists, birders, municipalities that are dealing with flooding and/or erosion. The list seems to grow larger all the time.
johnson grass
There's a lot of middle ground. There is incredible ecological value with native plants... there is also incredible ecological value with non natives and 'invasive' plants. The 'natives are better' view, by default, is simply not true and this way of thinking can actually cause a lot more damage trying to chase the past than learning to live in the present.
@@Hydrophilic I'm curious. What harm is being caused by the planting of native plants?
Hydrophilic, where did you get your information. I would like to see the science.
@@skyleen Plenty of literature on herbicide drift and herbicide runoff.
Thanks to the algorithm for sending this to me. Glad I found you.
Condolences for your loss, Rex has been an incredible educator for people who want to learn about native plants
Such a wise man. Miss you Rex!
I planted 23 acres into native prairie on my property in SE Iowa, which is mostly covered with cool season grasses and woods. There are also three ponds and 70 acres of clover/brome hay ground. For some odd reason, the deer really REALLY like this property.
Such wise and well educated advise. Thank you.
Greg Judy is utilizing the Kentucky 31 endophyte infested fescue on his properties in the only sensible way that reduces the risk of fescue poisoning to a bare minimum.
Which is to rotate his cattle and sheep from paddock to paddock as many times per day as the season and plant growth requires in order to eliminate the possibility of the fescue being eaten down to the bottom 6" of plant height above the soil. This rotational management is done until sufficient frosts have occurred to reduce the toxin levels in the plants to negligible levels until new growth begins to occur the following spring.
He also gets rid or eats the stock that have trouble with it, trying to breed cattle that have no problem with it
Yeah, I think the presenter sort of missed out on how good fescue is in the winter. Really nothing compares except the native fescues.
Through our rotarions and biannually sowing we try to make conditions primed for clover. To the extent the cows have 50/50 or more clover. The solution to pollution is dilution. Lol
@@swamp-yankee Fescue has 3 positives: November, December, and January. :)
@@HamiltonNativeOutpost hey hey! February’s ok
Native tall grass prairie is my personal favorite
Greg Judy loves his Kentucky Fescue 31 mixed in his vast mix of native grasses. I have seen several yrs of winters showing off how much green grass he has under the snow for is year round foraging of South Pols cattle.
Because he doesn't know any better.
@@bradjenkins932 Lol, he has proved himself by owning 500 head, managing and buying up farms, vastly improving the land, has grass abundantly thriving thru droughts and heavy rains. No buildings needed, rarely a vet, no hormones, chemicals used, just tall green grass.
@@safffff1000 LMAO..... Try telling that to Gabe Brown.. He is known as ( joke judy )
@@bradjenkins932 Be specific, I have shown what is working great for Greg, you tell me why you think he is failing so bad.
@@safffff1000 I have studied and worked in Botany in cattle at OSU for 19 years. What he is not tell you is .That KY 31 has endophytes.. Witch cause foot and leg problems, reduced weight gain and milk production, reproductive problems and more.
It's ironic that old school good farm sense is the trend.
All the modern farmers do is pay for other people to spray poison on gmo crops that they don’t own. It’s not sustainable
Some old school farming practices gave us gulley erosion and the dust bowl
@@thomascushing3760 that was due to new farming practices actually. 🤓 it was new to them and it only seems old because of the time that had passed since then
Extention agencies and universities have been under the influence of big pharma/chemical industry. Thank God for free speech on the internet!
Thanks for the video!
my dad bought 2140 acres of mountain land in nw ark in the 1990s-i moved there and at the time they were spraying 24d herbiside on the forest and den overseeding w fescue w a helicopter-after 1 yr those hills were lush w fescue but in a few years fescue foot reared its ugly head but the locals managed thru today-dad just left the native fields native and we had boocoo deer and turkey-some tyson execs bought that place to hunt-man there were big old mountain bucks up there-got lots on my mantle-sure wish he had kept that ranch but he moved on the sw missouri to another place w no deer-sad
2140 acres was still big money back in the 90s
@@coldspring624 agreed.
@@dungeonmaster6292 i digress-it was 1975-sorry-he paid 235k-sold in bout 2009 for 888k and got 135acs and a 5k sq ft house in sw misery-i shoud spell ck better but i prob wont
That sounds absolutely horrible. Terrible decision
Fescue bothers cows a lot more than my sheep. They eat the seed heads with no adverse affect due to the way they metabolize it. Fescue is the gift that keeps on giving!
Now I know why everyone wants Jan and Feb calves!! I always bred for April 1
Not to mention how devastating fescue is to native wildlife.
Native how long ago?
@@dungeonmaster6292 Native should mean native. Isuspect you're referring to naturalized species.
How well does wild rye stockpile?
@@williammisener2389 Our observation is that it continues to grow throughout the winter, though maybe slowly at times and in our DNGs it’s a real quality boost to the brown, dormant grasses.
Did you buy the mixer of seed? I am also in Missouri I thought about other round of fire in my pasture. But I want to no till drill seeds and wildflowers back into soil.
It won’t work great unless you do something to weaken the sward like fire, hay, or over grazing from my observation
Please quit burning
@@dungeonmaster6292 ok give me one reason why?
Awesome
Well, at least it isn't as bad as Bahia or Bermuda in places like Florida where native grasses were completely eradicated and now vast areas are covered in one of those species. Not that I am advocating for fescue.
Where can you get it
It's at least one of the reasons quail populations have crashed. Quail chicks are adapted to fed and stay protected in native clump grasses. They can't get through fescue or other creeping grasses.
Do you think starting a native grassland project would be funded by the fed? They want us to plant the native plants in from the East coast over here in the Pacific Northwest. We are hoping to start a native plant nursery for ecological restoration. subscribed. I am from a mono-culture wheat farm. Check out the youtube.
You could try some cover crops too. Would make your wheat happier. Check out what browns ranch gets up to with diverse cover crop mixes and native plants if you’re interested. They do great. Very successful. Another great grain farmer to look into is Bob Quinn. His book grain to grain is on audible, and his story and farm he describes is great
*The last thing that any intelligent practitioner of regenerative agriculture should want in their business and personal lives is ANY form of governmental interaction or interference. PERIOD! Governments are good at two things, and two things only. First is to pass laws and enforce regulations that allow them to steal money from their citizens in the form of fees, licenses, and taxes. Second is the government's facility at finding any and all means, legal or illegal, to perpetuate themselves as a governmental entity, as departments within a governmental agency, or as individual government employees. THAT'S IT. Everything else is secondary, tertiary, quadrenary, etc. to those two desires and requirements. The true ultimate welfare of any citizen NEVER factors into a government agency's equation when decisions are made. WHAT IS BEST FOR GOVERNMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.*
@@brucemattes5015 I sure ain’t complaining about roads or the fire department
I bought 36 acres of high desert in the mid nineties and immediately fenced it off with my own money to protect some of God’s Creation from the over-grazing of “free-range” cattle.
Too many folks are willing to sacrifice something to government while standing in line for tax-dollar support.
That mentality has helped to grow our once Republic into the mostly socialist government we have today.
Think multiple repercussions. Like it or not. They do happen.
best graze are forbes with grasses.
I got one better than that. What ever happened to Birds Foot grass that was used as a hay crop?
Birds foot trefoil grows naturally on our farm. Never sowed it. Try to buy a bag based on "giving the ground what it likes to grow" and feed store had a terrible time trying to get it. Btw, the cows do good on it but it's not their favorite. Highway rightofways around here are covered in it.
Everyone wants better yield !
Sorry for the los beautiful hearing historical accountings of ecology
This guy is such a Chad
Why did white hair replace a clean face ???? Is hair a " fescue " ???
"Native" is a fallacy.
Care to elaborate?
I think the OP is conflating "Native" with "Naturalized"
Nature’s “system” of re-inhabiting abused soil with opportunistic progressions of vegetation over time challenges the patience of humans that childishly demand immediate change now.
@@brucewales5965 thank you