2011 Kia Sorento - no start - won't start - push button starting issues

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  • 4/3/2013 - RECALL ISSUED FOR THIS: see: www.autoblog.co...
    Video showing the issues with our 2011 Kia Sorento push button start problems. This will show you how to keep from getting stranded. This same issue occurs in other Kia vehicles. The problem appears to be with the brake switch not allowing the vehicle to start. I am showing you how to easily bypass the brake switch and proceed to start the vehicle (Do so at your own risk). Also note that after the vehicle starts you may have to press the brake switch really hard to get the car into gear the first time.
    As with all work-arounds you are doing this at your own risk. My vehicle did not have any issues and ran as expected once the vehicle was started. However once shut off, the vehicle again had to be over-ridden to start back up.
    It is off for warranty repair now and I will update once I get the diagnostic information back from Kia.
    ** It was the brake switch and was replaced (reluctantly by my lame Kia dealership) under warranty. **

КОМЕНТАРІ • 132

  • @thaland
    @thaland 9 років тому +9

    Infant, wife, and I were stranded for 5 mins until I watched this video. Life Saver!!! Thank you!

    • @garystinten9339
      @garystinten9339 6 років тому

      Cleve James if you were stuck..how did you get the car home?

  • @dipperthetortoise8050
    @dipperthetortoise8050 10 років тому +3

    Your video saved my wife and diabetic baby. They were Christmas shopping and this happened. The funny part of it all is we have an appt to service the car in the morning. Thank you very much.

  • @sweetlemon69
    @sweetlemon69 11 років тому +4

    This just saved my wife stuck at work alone! HUGE thanks to you!!!

  • @kdsolomon84
    @kdsolomon84 8 років тому +13

    Thank you so much. I've been stuck in a parking lot for over an hour trying to get my 2011 Sorento started. it had the same problem as the video. You saved me!!!!

  • @mom2ajnsz
    @mom2ajnsz 10 років тому

    This video saved me!!! I came out of church - it was 19 degrees out - and my Zack wouldn't start. Praise God, smart phones and UA-cam for helping me start my car.

  • @S5E6L2A-walk
    @S5E6L2A-walk 6 років тому +1

    Thank you sir, we were stranded at a busy gas station, found your video, made it home 🤙

  • @handparker
    @handparker 11 років тому

    Your video saved me tonight! I called to our local Kia Dealership and the sales clerk found this video. Can't thank you enough!!

  • @championw3583
    @championw3583 8 років тому +1

    woo hooo! thank you! I replaced my brake switch 4 or 5 years ago. It was doing this same thing. I am about to go out of town (driving) for a week with no time to take to the dealer. Thank you for saving me!

  • @MrPhillipkb
    @MrPhillipkb 11 років тому

    My wife's 2011 Sorento has the same issue with keyless push button start. Page 5-11 in the Owner's manual said that the problem may be a blown Stop Lamp fuse, but the fuse checked out fine. It also shows how to start vehicle by bypassing brake pedal. My 2009 Mazda6 also uses push button start, but I've never had a problem like this (other than battery going dead in keyfob). Thanks for confirming that this is a Kia issue I'm taking it back to dealer pronto!

  • @michaelmargulis9498
    @michaelmargulis9498 8 років тому +9

    GREATEST VIDEO EVER!! Thanks, bro! Saved me a tow and wait in the cold.

  • @chinloisin4466
    @chinloisin4466 11 років тому +1

    I experienced this with my Kia Forte. The problem is with the brake switch. Cheap to replace. Had it replaced but same fault. Replaced it again and so far no problem.
    The video's suggestion should be used only in an emergency. What it does is to push voltage into the system to start the car. Do this often and you may damage the car's ECU. this was what I learned from my mechanic.

  • @jennifercollins219
    @jennifercollins219 4 роки тому +1

    Dude you are a genius. Saved our butts moving into our new apartment this happend to us.

  • @darc12808
    @darc12808 8 років тому +7

    My Optima does this. Not all the time though. When it does NOT start the button is lit up green but if I press it a second time it finally starts. The 10 Second button hold is a good way to start it if it fails too. You can also put your Key FOB into the key slot located in the Glove Box. That works if your key FOB battery is dead.

  • @toxicaniveldios6895
    @toxicaniveldios6895 2 роки тому

    Thank you this just saved me from being late to work and making It back home from the gym . I really do apreciate

  • @icecoldflurry
    @icecoldflurry 4 роки тому

    This video saved me today from towing my car. Thank you so much.

  • @bettybroo70
    @bettybroo70 11 років тому +2

    it did. there was a recall. the dealership fixed it, and we haven't had a problem with it since.

  • @JL-dm9ze
    @JL-dm9ze 5 років тому

    Thank you!!! Helped save me from being stranded!!! It worked ...

  • @edhz143
    @edhz143 9 років тому +10

    You are a life-saver. Thank you very much.

  • @philipmclaughlin9636
    @philipmclaughlin9636 7 років тому +15

    Sometimes I think car manufacturers find creative ways to gouge you at the dealership

  • @AH-ot1ki
    @AH-ot1ki Рік тому

    This just happened to me and I did wat he said and my car started right up. Thank you for this video

  • @datdudemario4873
    @datdudemario4873 6 років тому

    Great video I was just stuck for the past 45 minutes until I came across this video

  • @samuelsanchez6065
    @samuelsanchez6065 8 років тому +4

    Thanks a lot dear Bryan, you save my live with this video!!!! you are the best!!!

  • @dianerappa3281
    @dianerappa3281 10 років тому

    Thanks for the info. It enabled us to get the car to the garage. As it turns out, it was only the battery in the key ring remote.

  • @mtgarrett
    @mtgarrett 11 років тому

    THANK YOU!! My wife's Sorento has been doing this on and off, but tonight it really stranded us. I called Kia Roadside and asked if there was anything we could try to start the car manually (because I did not think it was a battery issue), and they said no. So, they dispatched a truck to try a jump, and then a tow if needed. While I was waiting, I found your video, tried the procedure and presto! So, I'm really not sure what the tow truck would have done...??

  • @ymcadude123
    @ymcadude123 11 років тому

    Great to know! Thanks man! I haven't tried it out yet but the difference between mine and yours is that mine turns green when I have the foot down. Normally it turns yellow, as if you were only pushing the button. This tells me that its reading the brake sensor at least to some degree.

  • @bettybroo70
    @bettybroo70 11 років тому

    thank you SO much for posting this! we've only every had this problem a few times in the last 6 months or so, and always when the other car was out. thank goodness it hasn't done it away from home. other than this issue, i love our kia (rhonda's her name, 'cause she's red and pretty! haha)! thanks again, though. you saved my son from having to sit for a couple of hours 'til my hubby could pick him up.

  • @andreasmith657
    @andreasmith657 5 років тому +1

    Thanks a lot for sharing! I’m pretty sure you key battery may have been dead like mine. Would love to hear a update for after the dealership

  • @SnappingTurtle801
    @SnappingTurtle801 9 років тому

    Wish I'd seen this a week ago. Recently bought one and one day wouldn't start. Called AAA cause I had to get to work. He was a bit clueless at first, but got it started. Not sure how. He figured the car wasn't accepting the fob signal.....i dunno. But this is really good to know. Thank you!. I think if I get another one I want a key start.

  • @fredxcomedy3.o815
    @fredxcomedy3.o815 3 роки тому

    Thank u so much!! My truck was just acting a damn fool tonight idk what to do thank u for ur help

  • @CyberAbyss007
    @CyberAbyss007 9 років тому

    Same trick worked on my 2012 Hyundai Sonata turbo. Thanks for sharing.

    • @brianscottsparks
      @brianscottsparks 9 років тому

      Hay Rick I've been working for jesters auto works in airlock about five months and I got run of the shop at lunch if y'all need any body work or your car buffed frame straightened ,or holes mig wielded bring it in and I'll do it free I'll post the 64 nova I'm restoring.love your life bro

  • @mattgraney1711
    @mattgraney1711 11 років тому +1

    Thanks, your video bailed my wife out of a bind!

  • @Duecemama03
    @Duecemama03 10 років тому

    👏👏👏👏👏THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH! Had that exact problem with my sportage & now it's all good!

  • @giraffe2211
    @giraffe2211 10 років тому

    Thank You Brian for giving the tip to "get out of the bind". I am a single mom and plan to take it to the dealership, but wondered if you every found out if it was indeed the brake sensor switch? Thanks for any information you can give!

  • @SeptemberDay
    @SeptemberDay 10 років тому +1

    You just saved my Christmas fund!! THANK YOU for this

  • @AnthonyHoff_CA
    @AnthonyHoff_CA 5 років тому

    Hey. Thanks for this video. Same thing on my 2017 Sorrento. Saved my ass in -20 weather this morning.

  • @likhondeb9839
    @likhondeb9839 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for the video. My car started but can't shift gear from neutral to reverse. Fob battery died, I changed the battery. Do you have any suggestion?

  • @Ambientrocker
    @Ambientrocker 12 років тому +1

    Phew, thanks!!! Going to the dealer ASAP

  • @Naressah
    @Naressah 8 років тому +8

    I have a 2014 Kia Sorento that will not start. I am not getting the orange light to by pass the break and the break pedal is too hard to push in to start the car. I bought the car used in Feb. 2015 and it broke down the beginning of Oct. 2015 and was in the shop at the Kia Dealership for 3 months. I was hesitant to buy a Kia and I should have followed my instincts. I am totally disgusted with the car now although it's fully loaded and I was really enjoying all of the features. I pray that someone will do right by me and replace the car. Otherwise I will trade it and never buy a Kia product again....not even a key chain. Very unhappy customer!

    • @donnabotro3714
      @donnabotro3714 8 років тому +4

      Hopefully you got it figured out. Kia really is a good car product. I'm on my second Kia Optima. Anyway I had this issue this morning, the push start wouldn't start but I had some lights not sure if they were orange the dashboard lite up but the brake was hard and would not press down (it felt like the car wasn't in park but it actually was in park so I put the car in Neutral and pressed the button it started right up... we had our rear break lights replaced last weekend no problem before then with start up. This may be related to the break switch I'm going to call the service manager at Kia to see if they will make this right.

  • @kenneth-shareeperciful4035
    @kenneth-shareeperciful4035 11 років тому +2

    Did the brake sensor resolve your issue? I didn't have an issue prior to the brake sensor being replaced. However, now the car won't start (sometimes) and it has thrown a history code related to the transmission range sensor, not covered under warranty. I'm considering attempting a recall complaint to get this resolved if others are having this issue.

  • @03kitty0
    @03kitty0 9 років тому +4

    😘😘😘😘thank you so much you safe my live thanks for putting this video up 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻👍👍👍👍👍so nice of you :)

  • @SergioLopez-ch9yx
    @SergioLopez-ch9yx 5 років тому

    Just ran into this problem..but once I go to hold the push start button, the car turns off... I do one push and the light turns orange,..push it once again and it turns green...i go to hold the button down, and it shuts off... Checked the battery, alternator, etc etc... Highly appreciate tips/ feedback! Thank you!👍👍

  • @bryan7694
    @bryan7694  11 років тому

    In my case it was the brake limit switch and was fixed the first time I took it in. Initially I had to argue with them to replace it because they said it was nothing wrong with it. I have not had any further problems since. Roughly 35K miles and counting.

  • @rscherzinger
    @rscherzinger 11 років тому

    Bryan, Thank you so much for this video. It saved me today.
    Blessings to you.

  • @DarrenWoodard
    @DarrenWoodard 11 років тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this. That worked great.

  • @karifung7821
    @karifung7821 11 років тому

    I have a 2011 EX Sorento (push start), and have been dealing with my (car not starting off, and on, for over 1 1/2 now.) Car has been towed in today, and three weeks ago for same problem. Dealership says nothing wrong, and cannot duplicate problem. I've put a complaint in with NHTSA, and Consumer Affairs of Kia. I have done my research, and think it might be "brake switch", but will wait to see what dealership says. My husband is wanting to do a lemon law, on the car now.

  • @jshields70
    @jshields70 11 років тому

    dude. thank you a thousand times.

  • @estherwong2519
    @estherwong2519 7 років тому

    thanks... your video clip has really helps me a lots... it works!!!

  • @Traveling_Chic
    @Traveling_Chic 9 років тому

    You just saved me tonight! Thank you so much!

  • @B0rn2succeed
    @B0rn2succeed 11 років тому

    Thank you Bryan it did help, but tell me dude after doing doing that, I will always have to operate it the same way, or it will turn to the normal standard way.

  • @Bekim8310
    @Bekim8310 9 років тому +3

    Great video! This will be my second time replacing this stupid switch. I wish kia would put out a better switch that would last. Granted its only about $13 and about 10 min of work but damn you really have to slide upside down under the pedals to get to it. But great video!

  • @jakidd445
    @jakidd445 2 роки тому

    THANKS SO MUCH… Bless you!

  • @SNL19067
    @SNL19067 9 років тому

    You are a life saver...thank you!!!

  • @ShadyO-e
    @ShadyO-e 2 роки тому

    Awesome trick dude thanks

  • @AdanValue
    @AdanValue 3 роки тому

    I have a 2015 Kia sorento V6 SX 3.3L with 139,000 on it. I had three of those misfire codes along with P0019 Crankshaft sensor B and P0024 Camshaft posistion timing (Bank 2) codes. All these fired at the same exact time. I changed the oil, replaced the battery, and all of the other parts. Now when I try to press the brake to start the car it is very stiff and the car will not start. I tired the bypass method but it does not work. Something is wrong because when you initially push the start button (no foot on the brake) it turns orange. Then if you push the start button (no foot on the brake) it should turn GREEN. My ONLY turns red. What could be the issue? It was starting fine until i replaced all this stuff.

  • @xray364
    @xray364 3 роки тому

    Great tip. Thanks

  • @Chefmuhammad95
    @Chefmuhammad95 6 років тому

    Thanks bro, u just help me out right now

  • @ymcadude123
    @ymcadude123 11 років тому

    For some reason my 2011 Sportage is not on the list. Missed it by one year. However, I brought it in and they said it was the "inhibitor switch" which was replaced. However the same issue happened again so now I have a loaner. No idea what's wrong with it.

  • @cantu8302
    @cantu8302 9 років тому

    YOU JUST SAVED ME!!!!

  • @terrywilliams4343
    @terrywilliams4343 4 роки тому

    I have a 2011 Kia Sorrento 6 speed with a key ignition. What is a trick or tip to get it started? Or could it be the brake sensor? and how much does each of those costs ignition switch? and a brake sensor?

  • @assemellythy4791
    @assemellythy4791 7 років тому

    thank you very much, very helpful video

  • @CoolEditz
    @CoolEditz 10 років тому +1

    Well that's freakin helpful!

  • @phxfarmer4844
    @phxfarmer4844 2 роки тому

    I’m hoping this works

  • @richw8124
    @richw8124 4 роки тому

    In your 2nd scenario I tried that I hear the car cranking but no start.
    But I noticed this car starting problem happens when I don't start the car after 3-4 days in parked.
    When I use it every day no problems .
    Problem with the battery ?
    Battery is less than 30 months old.any advice?

  • @CDeshe
    @CDeshe 10 років тому

    This was very helpful thanks.

  • @tikiaquino9975
    @tikiaquino9975 3 роки тому

    Thanks work perfect 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾life saver

  • @stevesmith-ny8jb
    @stevesmith-ny8jb Рік тому

    A 10 second video stretched out to 90 seconds because you senselessly flap your lips. However, thank you for the great information sir.

  • @elyse505_1
    @elyse505_1 5 років тому

    What about on a 2011 Kia Sorento standard with ref key ignition ?

  • @18wildym
    @18wildym 9 років тому

    THANK FOR SHARING I AAPPRICATE IT

  • @fbandas
    @fbandas 9 років тому

    thnx bro ,worked for me

  • @CHANGONATION
    @CHANGONATION 10 років тому

    If it was the brake switch did you brake lights work when stepping on the peddal.. im having issues with 2014 forte as soon as my ESC light came on I notice I did bot have any brake lights.. this is covered by the waranty right?

  • @bryan7694
    @bryan7694  11 років тому

    I can't post the link as a reply but see the link inside the comment section for information about them recalling this.

  • @nikkil1985
    @nikkil1985 2 роки тому

    This didn’t work for me 2013 Kia Sorento sadly and I’m stranded

  • @scottwgers5492
    @scottwgers5492 9 років тому

    i have a 04 kia sorento somtimes driving it or just strating it the battery light will come on and brake light and it will not be charging the car then when u shut it off it wont start is the anti theft or???please help any one

  • @James101
    @James101 8 років тому +7

    Why they added this is beyond me, I prefer a key, its not that hard to put a key in a lock and turn it. All these new cars with the start/stop technology to save fuel in a few years will be in trouble, its just more stuff to go wrong.

    • @msrednic
      @msrednic 6 років тому +1

      I absolutely love this feature on my '17 Sportage. In fact, this feature was the main reason I got rid of my old car, an '08 RAV4. Got tired of having to dig in my pockets for the key, and remember which pocket they were in. Even worse when your hands are full. Now it doesn't matter which pocket my keys are in. Just hop in, push the button, and go!

    • @carlomango407
      @carlomango407 6 років тому +2

      msrednic
      Yeah, might be convenient but when the system fails, you are in for an expensive surprise at the dealer or any mechanic... plus, what do those keyless fobs have hidden? A normal key to open your car door!!!

    • @randomchannel1475
      @randomchannel1475 6 років тому

      @@carlomango407 that's in case if ur fob is dead. Why would we want to get in our car if the fob is dead? What if we have batteries in the car for the fob. There, I answered your question

  • @seddamaljbori6604
    @seddamaljbori6604 5 років тому

    بعد تبديل جوزة البريك, اصبحت السيارة تنزل سرعتها للسلولي بشكل فجائي و لا ينفع معها الضغط على دواسة البنزين, وتستمر الحالة بضع ثواني, وترجع السيارة لطبيعتها بمجرد الضغط على دواسة البريك,
    هل توجد علاقة بين جوزة البريك ( في وضع عدم الضغط عليها ) و ضخ الوقود للمحرك
    After brake light switch replacement, In car moving, velocity suddenly down to slowly, and fuel pedal do not function,
    Is there are any relationships between brake light switch and engine fuel supplement when I do not hit the brake pedal

  • @ShayyEthhrg
    @ShayyEthhrg 4 роки тому

    What it makes an excessive clicking noise

  • @kenneth-shareeperciful4035
    @kenneth-shareeperciful4035 11 років тому

    I'd love to know what's going on with your vehicle ymcadude123. The break sensor has been replaced in mine and at that time I had no issues starting my car. Since it's been replaced I've had continual problems starting my car. It's thrown a code twice in the history setting for a transmission range sensor. Of course, it's under warranty but since it's an external part it's not covered. I've seen hundreds of youtube videos saying that they have problems starting their car, recall possible?

  • @iJohnDiaz
    @iJohnDiaz 12 років тому

    Put on neutral I had the same problem too

  • @mtgarrett
    @mtgarrett 11 років тому

    Thank you Bryan. I'm glad this is officially a recall, but I'm also really pissed at Kia at the same time. I've had our car there 3 times for this, each time butting heads with them and them more or less saying it's "User Error." You should see how much it pleases my wife to have someone tell her she doesn't know how to start her car...LOL. Thanks again, now at least we have some ammo for these douches at the dealer.

  • @muqaddashussain
    @muqaddashussain 8 років тому +1

    problem is paint codes not fix he is on the paper

  • @darrenh48
    @darrenh48 11 років тому

    Hi Bryan, We are experiencing the same problem with our 2011 Sorento and have had the brake swith replaced twice but problem continues to happen. Did your dealer fix the problem and what was the fix? The Kia dealer where we live did'nt know about the by pass to start the car that you show in your video. Thanks for that. They wanted us to tow the car to the shop when this problem occurs. I think they know there is a big problem with their cars but won't admit it.

    • @kcooper1974
      @kcooper1974 6 років тому

      Darren H mine did it also. They replaced the brake switch and now I find if I pull it out of park and push it back into park it will start right up.

  • @vsboy2577
    @vsboy2577 7 років тому

    people who design these failures need to be held accountable

  • @vknyvz
    @vknyvz 11 років тому

    Pure Korean Engineering at best!

  • @shariryan1594
    @shariryan1594 6 років тому

    I am having this problem with my 2012 Kia Sorento LX, and when I try the bypass, my car shuts off before it can start. I can't hold in the button for more than a few seconds without it just shutting off completely......any ideas? If I have to take it to a dealership, I would like to be able to drive it there instead of having it towed.

    • @nicoleheadzofblessedhandzw6648
      @nicoleheadzofblessedhandzw6648 6 років тому

      Shari Ryan oh wow..experiencing the same problem...i tried to 20 second hold (and it cuts off), i tried starting it in neutral and I tried putting the Key in the charger and changed the battery..car still wont start. What was your issue

    • @2dda
      @2dda 5 років тому +1

      Hi did you end up figuring this out? Thanks

    • @nicoleheadzofblessedhandzw6648
      @nicoleheadzofblessedhandzw6648 5 років тому

      @@2dda It actually was my car battery. That's why the bypass trick wouldn't work me. Its crazy because all my stuff worked, the lights, radio, air conditioner, horn and all. But it was still my battery

  • @zenpie2249
    @zenpie2249 3 місяці тому

    didn’t help me no lights are coming on but battery is probably also dead

  • @1Crittenden
    @1Crittenden 5 років тому

    Saved my ass man. Shit! Thank you!!!!!

  • @infiniteshadoe
    @infiniteshadoe 2 роки тому

    My 2016 gets a red light not a green light

  • @jimanderson5172
    @jimanderson5172 Рік тому

    Didn't work for me,

  • @hamedalrawahi1748
    @hamedalrawahi1748 8 років тому

    Maybe try to change ur car key battery

  • @caseyreed97
    @caseyreed97 8 років тому +1

    Just happened to my genesis

    • @caseyreed97
      @caseyreed97 8 років тому +1

      +이혜경 nope battery blew up

  • @Red-Eagle
    @Red-Eagle 2 роки тому

    They build em to break down. I swear.

  • @darrenh48
    @darrenh48 11 років тому

    I checked the service records and Kia replaced the brake limit switch both times we had it in for service. They want us to leave the car with them for a few days until the problem occurs so they can see it with their own eyes. I'll never buy Kia again.

  • @kamrieholder1029
    @kamrieholder1029 4 роки тому

    My car does this same thing except when I hold it it just cuts off. Sometimes it cranks, sometimes it doesn’t. I replaced the battery in the key fob, it had gas, battery is fine, everything is fine so idk what it could be.

    • @AdanValue
      @AdanValue 3 роки тому

      @kamrie Holder, did you ever find out the issue?

  • @LC-yv9ey
    @LC-yv9ey 5 років тому +3

    You know Kia sucks when someone has to make a "how too start you vehicle" video when your car is push to start, don't buy a kia 😂, you know how you can go to a dollar tree and buy cheap $1 toys that look good but break really easy, that's Kia 😂

  • @kev5525
    @kev5525 12 років тому

    you are lucky that there's an bypass

  • @elmecanico4943
    @elmecanico4943 8 років тому +8

    the reason why it doesnt start: its a Kia

    • @hedga001
      @hedga001 8 років тому +2

      Korean cars at their best!

    • @jaybyvan
      @jaybyvan 6 років тому +4

      I’ve owned a couple of Kias now and I’ve abused the shit out of them. And they’ve never let me down. I love Kia.

  • @mrsRAD4eva
    @mrsRAD4eva 8 років тому

    tried the 30 second trick, didn't work..any other suggestions? Battery is good..

    • @donnabotro3714
      @donnabotro3714 8 років тому

      I put the car in Neutral and pressed the button it started right up... we had are rear break lights replaced last weekend no problem before then with start up. This may be related to the break switch.

    • @shariryan1594
      @shariryan1594 6 років тому

      By reading almost every comment in several of these forums, by putting the car in neutral and having it start right up, your problem was the park switch, not the brake switch. Good to know!

  • @Mguzman-zu9tm
    @Mguzman-zu9tm 4 роки тому

    Anyone figure out why it does this ? Thanks for the video by the way but my dads Sorento been doing this lately anyone able to figure out why it does this ? Not looking for smartass comments . If you don’t like Kia then get off the video isn’t that how life works 🤔 any info will be appreciated !

    • @shush3177
      @shush3177 4 роки тому

      Check battery in your key fob. Also, he listed a recall in the description

  • @mom2ajnsz
    @mom2ajnsz 10 років тому

    *car - not Zach. Clearly phone not that smart!

  • @jamiehaggett5586
    @jamiehaggett5586 5 років тому +5

    It's a Kia what do you expect lol