I think people resorting to ai art should know: you're allowed to do bad art. Like, genuinely, shitty art is infinitely more charming to me than ai art
but I can't draw a "photorealistic sparrow with very hairy human legs sitting on a branch, legs dangling off" for me to giggle at in 30 seconds, I think it's an acceptable use of ai
@jharuldsmythe I can draw a bit, but I can't draw a photorealistic sparrow in 30 seconds, much less one with hairy human legs. Nor would I want to waste my efforts on editing an image I simply want to giggle at once.
I understand and agree with the argument, but if I want to see a chihuahua with a blindfold on unicycle, I'm gonna have AI whip something up. I'm not gonna spend an hour editing something, and I'm not gonna pay either a 3D or 2D artist to model/draw a photorealistic chihuahua for a throwaway idea.
Anecdote on AI: The creator of Cryptmaster realized that to have the Cryptmaster, who'd have tons and tons of lines of dialogue, fully voice acted, would cost way more than he could afford on a small indie budget. Instead of resorting to AI, he sat down and did all of the lines himself, despite not being a professional VA. Cryptmaster's dialogue is the highlight of the game, it is written and preformed so well, it's what everyone praises and remembers about the game. But most importantly, I'm sure the creator learned a ton about voice acting by doing this, he gained a new skill that he can apply to future projects. (cryptmaster is really good)
This really is the key story. It takes a lot of work to learn and perform a new skill, but the act of doing so could be the golden aspect of what you're doing, and you gain so much along the way
I know the Album Cover example was just used for showing why someone might use AI art, but just the idea that someone would use AI for an Album Cover is so crazy to me. Album Covers are just... anything. They don't even have to be art in the traditional sense, you can frame together some stuff and take a picture. Or do a collage. Things that literally anyone can do, especially someone on the creative side, which encapsulates the same people who would make an album.
if the artist doesn't have a strong enough creative vision to come up with an album cover to synergize with the music then i feel it's probably not worth listening to
If an artist didn't even put in the time to make any sort of thing with the album cover, why would I think they put any sort effort into the music it's representing
Like two of my favorite album covers of all time are Nirvana's Bleach and Rage Against The Machine's self-titled album. The former is a negative of a picture of the band on stage, while the latter is a famous photograph from a protest. *An album cover can be anything.*
I wasn't expecting this video to just be Jacob and Koro discussing art stuff with the actual drawings feeling more like a side thing, but honestly, I'm all here for it. It gives cozy vibes :3
I really appreciate the perspective on AI art by a professional artist here. When gen AI first started to appear, I was optimistic. As a programmer, I saw the value in how it could allow more people to create more complex and interesting things with the help of it as a tool, such as a programmer being able to bring a game idea to life when they otherwise wouldn't have the art or musical skills to do so. However, my perspective has changed pretty dramatically over the last year or so. Hearing the opinions of so many artists feeling as if their years and years of practice and mastery of their craft being cheaply replicated and de-valued as a result of these algorithms is genuinely heartbreaking to see, and taking jobs away from these talented and creative people in favor of machines that cannot truly innovate is not beneficial for humanity. Every piece of media I see now has an asterisk attached to it that it might be a lazily created piece of AI slop, and it detracts from the accomplishments of the people who put in the time and effort to learn these skills and discover new ways to apply them. While I do truly think some fantastic things could come from AI overall (medical applications, document processing, etc), the downsides of AI are heavily outweighing them so far, and we really need some form of authority to step in and get a handle on it. The capitalist nature of our world means that AI will undoubtedly continue to be exploited for profit at the cost of the humans that should be the bottom line of anything we do as a society. For all of you artists out there, I truly hope it gets better for you. You deserve better, and your skills should be valued for what you contribute to the media landscape.
My AI take is that its bad because it takes the experience out of whatever you use it for. Experience that shapes HOW you think about what you want to do. You won't get that retrospective "Oh, after doing this once, I know how I could do it better". I see it all the time when trying to teach people how to code. AI generated code is messy, over complicated, and never worth the time someone spent to generate. And every time I try to ask people about said code, time and time again, I hear the same thing: "Oh, I just got it from chat GPT, so I dunno". End of conversation. No Retrospective. No learning.
If I need to have it spit out API calls it's kinda nice, don't wanna read docs sometimes. Or quick help when I need a one time json parser and know the python way to do it and old JS but not the ES6 way
For me AI is a replacement for my brain not being creative at all, like not 1 bit, I'm not exaggerating when I say chatGPT comes up with more creative ideas then my brain AI allows me to even start the process, I can be creative, but I need that initial push from AI, my brain collapses at the starting line but if it can be helped up and have its hand held for half the race, it can easily do the other half on its own
@@flamingscar5263 Eeh practice can overcome that. What I used to do was just making dots on a piece of paper randomly and then start to connect them with lines to make a picture. Sometimes you can see a pattern in the dots immediately and sometimes you need a few random lines. Same with music. Just play random notes until you hear something you like, then flesh out a melody and then harmonize it and tada you got some music. With programming you can't really do something random so I start out just writing procedural code and then start to abstract as certain stuff becomes annoying. Once everything works I do a final refactoring pass to make it nice. The best way to overcome the paralyzing fear of the blank page is to just put something on it.
This is so accurate. I do thibk in coding there is *some* room to use it as a tool. But you really need to have a good understanding of the topic an principles of the functok or section of code you are generating to be able to debug and troubleshoot the code
I've used AI generated code once or twice, ever and it was just "okay, mental roadblock on just starting this part, let me take this thing I know will make bad code that roughly resembles what I actually need, and then refactor it until it works, I'm gonna need to do testing sooner or later after all." And then I tear into it from there until I've essentially rewritten the whole thing bit by bit, with only some basic structures remaining. Phenomenal for when you just need to do the starting bit for you, but terrible if you intend to use any of it (feels like you could also ask a friend with no coding experience to do roughly the same thing, it'd just take longer.)
gonna add another bit of advice for people starting out in art: references are your friend! they're super helpful! i used to see posts, especially when i was younger, that references were "cheating" but they are genuinely a vital part of the process. personally i rely on them pretty heavily because i can't actually visualize things. but i'm still an artist because i love art and creating, even if that may make it trickier for me! i know of several other artists who also have aphantasia, i guess there's a stubbornness to us in being creatives and having ideas we want to see and if we can't make it in our minds, we'll draw it. at least that's how it is for me, heh.
btw if aren't already aware pureref is an amazing program for looking/saving references. Found out about it from RubberRoss genuinely one of my fav programs because it's also just a nice one to look at images in general lol
Professional artists of all disciplines use references all the time. Anyone who claims that using references is "cheating" in the modern day is either trolling or misinformed. It's like the elitism that people often complain about in the Soulsborne community: using the tools available to you isn't cheating, and not using them makes it harder than it needs to be and thus shouldn't be the expected norm.
@xerveeon absolutely. i feel like most of them were probably misinformed kids or being elitist to other kids. many also claimed tracing to be evil and while you shouldn't post traced work and claim it as your own, i find it really helpful for understanding and breaking down poses and anatomy on a reference before i try it myself. and it can be helpful to feel and understand something, train your hand and study how other artists do things.
i would enjoy this being a thing like once every or every second month with you just talking about random subjects, while drawing in the background, that sounds like amazing content for this channel
i've been debating giving up art because of comparing myself on "where i should be" rather than appreciating where im at. the conversation you guys had around 13:18 really made my day and helped me drop the idea of giving up :)
This! All of this! I am a firm believer that every living person has the capacity and potential to be an artist, even if they doubt themselves. I'm gonna be real though, art is not easy, but it's rewarding. A lesson I've had to relearn time and again is that it's good to make bad art; making art is a good thing, and making bad art is better than making no art at all. I genuinely still struggle to accept that I am considered a decent artist now, but I've compared art I currently make to art that I drew several years ago and the difference is night and day. You will be genuinely shocked at how fast you can improve if you just keep at it! So to anyone who wants to get into art, just do it! Be patient, have fun with it, and just draw anything you want to draw! You've got this!
"It takes the fun part out" exactly! We've been trained to think of everything as consumers. But the most irreplaceable value art provides society is to the artist, not the audience. Nothing but creating art can fill that need. Even if AI could flawlessly make original creative work, it's not something we should replace.
Koro made such a good point about tracing. It applies to any artform. No one has started off with their own style, everyone starts by imitating art they like and then combining the aspects they like most and feel fit them best and then over time it morphs into their own artstyle ^^
So, I should note, the stigma against tracing seems extra weird to me, because people learn to play music the exact same way, but nobody cares if you go up on stage and play somebody else's song unless it's something more obscure and you just don't credit the original performer. Think of tracing the same way you think of covering songs and I think your art and your attitude towards art has the potential to increase a lot
I've been drawing since my pudgy little toddler hands could hold a crayon, and tracing is most of my warmups. It builds good muscle memory for anatomy/shapes.
I think most people’s gripe is people tracing and then claiming it was their own original work but ofc not everyone does that and people still get flack. I see your point about music but I feel like when you play music you’re engaging with it in a way you may not while just copying the same line but I’m not sure how else to put this into words. It’s certainly helpful in the same way if you take the time to engage with the original piece though! Like someone else said this can be awesome as a warmup. I personally think trying to recreate it from memory can also be another great exercise afterwards.
I get where you’re coming from but I feel like looking at art for reference makes you learn more in the long run, because if you trace over the art as a beginner ur not necessarily understanding why it was drawn the way it was! It can help if you’re already more advanced and just trying to learn different artstyles but like I said for a beginner it’s better to learn at least a few fundamentals. And like another person already said in the replies it’s more about the people that claim that it’s their original art, but if you’re just studying it and not necessarily posting it then I think it’s relatively fine!! :D
16:11 one thing that helped me really early on was this artist that let people color their sketches! i would re-line everything to practice anatomy and then i'd color :) it was really fun and i got to try different coloring techniques
On the "using AI for cover art" thing, I really don't understand why some people say they just use AI since they can't afford submissions. There are plenty of artists that are just starting out who'd make you a pretty good cover art for free or cheap. Just approach some people who are still in school, they can use it for their portfolio
As a programmer and artist, I hope Ai stays as far away from programming as possible. From the way Ai is already being used to pump endless amount of visual slop onto the internet, I can't fathom how bad it would be if people could churn out code too... I'm well aware current language models can "code" to an extent (based on data sets and whatever), but it hasn't been a whole FOCUS like images have been.
oh there was talk of AI is actually getting implemented into the big gaming engines, I think unreal at the very least, also it is very good at doing simple code or fixing code, seen people code games entirely using AI, and websites as just a standard thing.
How fitting that they drew Sonic at the start. One of the concept "artists" on the new Sonic movie apparently did AI "art" which is absolutely fucking stupid that they're calling themselves a concept "artist"
The point that there is a difference between talent and skill hits home to me. Going through college with very talented composers was discouraging at first. However, I eventually learned that my music was good and even if I have to work a little bit harder I still make great things.
I wanted to do more creative things this year, so I bought a little travel watercolor set and have spent almost every day drawing pokemon. I look cards up and draw them freehand, which is incredibly fun! Making art is something I haven't done in a long time, and I honestly think the act itself has helped my mental health. Are my paintings great? Idk, but I love creating them.
Natural talent is like a floor, where dedicating years if not decades to drawing is the skill ceiling. Anyone can do it, but it would be based on how much you want to progress.
Trying and drawing what you wanted to get out is infinitely more satisfying than using ai Even if it's not amazing at least knowing you made it just feels nice
Wow, a podcast about art with a good artist and someone really trying to draw, talking about ethic art with some jazz fusion jam on the background! Uh, now that's a good day :)
Wow... I really love this video. I'm currently on my social media art journey and no one is seeing my art, so I get so happy just seeing more than 2 views on a post. But yeah, art is DEFINITELY a process. I'm so proud of myself for how far I've come. Thank you so much for this video!
I could never see myself using AI in any creative capacity. Even though I hate doing line art, it’s still a necessary part of the process that would feel wrong to get rid of. I love learning new techniques and mediums. Hell, any time I have an art block, I find a new medium to learn and be creative with. Sure, having a finished piece is nice to look at, but the best part about being an artist is the making of something.
Hey, on the same note as AI art was mentioned, I would like to bring up the music in the background, which is Midnight Rendezvous, by Casiopea, a great Japanese jazz band. It would be very nice to see them credited at least just as a small pop up on the video with the name, or even the description. People deserve credit for their work, always!
Speaking of AI art - I just love to think that a person is behind something. That they spent actual effort or visualised something in their brain. Seeing Mario and Sonic making out is way funnier when you realise a real person spent hours of their life bringing it to life. AI art literally takes that away.
Ai shouldn’t be used for creative things such as art and 3D models, it directly impacts the pockets of those artists, the ones who put their heart into these projects
Just like anything, learning to draw is a skill. It takes time to hone and perfect it. Raw talent will help when getting started. But a person who puts in the work and effort to practice and improve will always be better. Also, I think the best way to improve is to practice the things you aren't good at drawing. Hands are always the first big obstacle any new artist faces. But by practicing drawing hands (and practice a loooooooot) at some point it'll just click.
The same people complaining that AI steals from artists almost certainly pirate music, movies, and tv shows. They claim "Oh, well because they're a multibillion dollar company it's okay." But then when the people who are poorer than them say "Well I wasn't going to commission the art anyway and I don't have the time or money to learn this skill," they turn on them. Being antiAI is so often a disgusting classist argument against people wanting to enjoy a medium they can't break into due to financial restrictions.
AI defenders need to take note that the professional artist here made mistakes in his art every time but they still looked amazing. While Alpharad drew simpler rougher shapes that were within his skills letting him make better drawings. They did the same thing and with practice Alpharad could become as good as Koro because Koro is just further along the path.
5:45 idk why but i feel compelled to share my opinion: there’s a time and place for AI art. If it’s just a joke with your friends or some unserious thing it can be useful to just make whatever stupid thing your mind conjures up and it can get the joke across. However, AI art should never replace actual artists who make comics, animation, thumbnails, etc. if it’s something where originality matters, it shouldn’t be AI. if it’s just me wanting to make a silly picture of my friends kissing each other, AI is fine.
6:50 yes, but also don't many AI generative softwares cost also a bunch of money? It feels like walking over a desert for a cup of water situation cuz anything, and I mean ANYTHING, you make regardless of skill level will be better than any AI "artist" garbage because you actually tried. Also it sucks ass because of all the energy it uses, NFT's LEVELS OF ENERGY! I hate generative AI so much
I just had a thought: AI art is piracy, which is only ok when it's from a large corporation. Stealing from a freelance artist, which is most of them, is wrong, so AI art is wrong. Be mindful to these people, they work hard
Thinking about the point made at 6:40 I feel like a lot of people don't realize you don't need some crazy shit for an album cover. One of lil uzi vert's most famous ones is literally traced from scott pilgrim like plz
I think people resorting to ai art should know: you're allowed to do bad art. Like, genuinely, shitty art is infinitely more charming to me than ai art
but I can't draw a "photorealistic sparrow with very hairy human legs sitting on a branch, legs dangling off" for me to giggle at in 30 seconds, I think it's an acceptable use of ai
@@酗 brother. that's why you either apply yourself (everyone *can* make art, sometimes it just takes practice) or use photoshop
@jharuldsmythe I can draw a bit, but I can't draw a photorealistic sparrow in 30 seconds, much less one with hairy human legs. Nor would I want to waste my efforts on editing an image I simply want to giggle at once.
I understand and agree with the argument, but if I want to see a chihuahua with a blindfold on unicycle, I'm gonna have AI whip something up. I'm not gonna spend an hour editing something, and I'm not gonna pay either a 3D or 2D artist to model/draw a photorealistic chihuahua for a throwaway idea.
@@酗As you don't claim you made it yourself; live and die for the bit
Anecdote on AI:
The creator of Cryptmaster realized that to have the Cryptmaster, who'd have tons and tons of lines of dialogue, fully voice acted, would cost way more than he could afford on a small indie budget. Instead of resorting to AI, he sat down and did all of the lines himself, despite not being a professional VA. Cryptmaster's dialogue is the highlight of the game, it is written and preformed so well, it's what everyone praises and remembers about the game. But most importantly, I'm sure the creator learned a ton about voice acting by doing this, he gained a new skill that he can apply to future projects.
(cryptmaster is really good)
This really is the key story. It takes a lot of work to learn and perform a new skill, but the act of doing so could be the golden aspect of what you're doing, and you gain so much along the way
I know the Album Cover example was just used for showing why someone might use AI art, but just the idea that someone would use AI for an Album Cover is so crazy to me. Album Covers are just... anything. They don't even have to be art in the traditional sense, you can frame together some stuff and take a picture. Or do a collage. Things that literally anyone can do, especially someone on the creative side, which encapsulates the same people who would make an album.
like everyone literally has a phone camera, just take a photo if you really wanna put min effort
if charlie xcx can just write 'brat' for her cover, it shouldn't be that difficult!
if the artist doesn't have a strong enough creative vision to come up with an album cover to synergize with the music then i feel it's probably not worth listening to
If an artist didn't even put in the time to make any sort of thing with the album cover, why would I think they put any sort effort into the music it's representing
Like two of my favorite album covers of all time are Nirvana's Bleach and Rage Against The Machine's self-titled album. The former is a negative of a picture of the band on stage, while the latter is a famous photograph from a protest. *An album cover can be anything.*
I wasn't expecting this video to just be Jacob and Koro discussing art stuff with the actual drawings feeling more like a side thing, but honestly, I'm all here for it. It gives cozy vibes :3
EVE I AM GOING INSANE
Love that Jacob asked about Koro’s opinion on AI art, nice to see him being pro artist
what? are you confusing nova and koro?
me when I forget who is in the video
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Whoops, my bad lol
@@madymadders
In my defense I had it in the background while I was drawing too lol
Must’ve misheard
I really appreciate the perspective on AI art by a professional artist here. When gen AI first started to appear, I was optimistic. As a programmer, I saw the value in how it could allow more people to create more complex and interesting things with the help of it as a tool, such as a programmer being able to bring a game idea to life when they otherwise wouldn't have the art or musical skills to do so.
However, my perspective has changed pretty dramatically over the last year or so. Hearing the opinions of so many artists feeling as if their years and years of practice and mastery of their craft being cheaply replicated and de-valued as a result of these algorithms is genuinely heartbreaking to see, and taking jobs away from these talented and creative people in favor of machines that cannot truly innovate is not beneficial for humanity. Every piece of media I see now has an asterisk attached to it that it might be a lazily created piece of AI slop, and it detracts from the accomplishments of the people who put in the time and effort to learn these skills and discover new ways to apply them.
While I do truly think some fantastic things could come from AI overall (medical applications, document processing, etc), the downsides of AI are heavily outweighing them so far, and we really need some form of authority to step in and get a handle on it. The capitalist nature of our world means that AI will undoubtedly continue to be exploited for profit at the cost of the humans that should be the bottom line of anything we do as a society.
For all of you artists out there, I truly hope it gets better for you. You deserve better, and your skills should be valued for what you contribute to the media landscape.
Thank you, I feel all warm inside
My AI take is that its bad because it takes the experience out of whatever you use it for. Experience that shapes HOW you think about what you want to do. You won't get that retrospective "Oh, after doing this once, I know how I could do it better".
I see it all the time when trying to teach people how to code. AI generated code is messy, over complicated, and never worth the time someone spent to generate. And every time I try to ask people about said code, time and time again, I hear the same thing: "Oh, I just got it from chat GPT, so I dunno". End of conversation. No Retrospective. No learning.
If I need to have it spit out API calls it's kinda nice, don't wanna read docs sometimes. Or quick help when I need a one time json parser and know the python way to do it and old JS but not the ES6 way
For me AI is a replacement for my brain not being creative at all, like not 1 bit, I'm not exaggerating when I say chatGPT comes up with more creative ideas then my brain
AI allows me to even start the process, I can be creative, but I need that initial push from AI, my brain collapses at the starting line but if it can be helped up and have its hand held for half the race, it can easily do the other half on its own
@@flamingscar5263 Eeh practice can overcome that. What I used to do was just making dots on a piece of paper randomly and then start to connect them with lines to make a picture. Sometimes you can see a pattern in the dots immediately and sometimes you need a few random lines. Same with music. Just play random notes until you hear something you like, then flesh out a melody and then harmonize it and tada you got some music.
With programming you can't really do something random so I start out just writing procedural code and then start to abstract as certain stuff becomes annoying. Once everything works I do a final refactoring pass to make it nice.
The best way to overcome the paralyzing fear of the blank page is to just put something on it.
This is so accurate. I do thibk in coding there is *some* room to use it as a tool. But you really need to have a good understanding of the topic an principles of the functok or section of code you are generating to be able to debug and troubleshoot the code
I've used AI generated code once or twice, ever and it was just "okay, mental roadblock on just starting this part, let me take this thing I know will make bad code that roughly resembles what I actually need, and then refactor it until it works, I'm gonna need to do testing sooner or later after all." And then I tear into it from there until I've essentially rewritten the whole thing bit by bit, with only some basic structures remaining. Phenomenal for when you just need to do the starting bit for you, but terrible if you intend to use any of it (feels like you could also ask a friend with no coding experience to do roughly the same thing, it'd just take longer.)
gonna add another bit of advice for people starting out in art: references are your friend! they're super helpful! i used to see posts, especially when i was younger, that references were "cheating" but they are genuinely a vital part of the process. personally i rely on them pretty heavily because i can't actually visualize things. but i'm still an artist because i love art and creating, even if that may make it trickier for me! i know of several other artists who also have aphantasia, i guess there's a stubbornness to us in being creatives and having ideas we want to see and if we can't make it in our minds, we'll draw it. at least that's how it is for me, heh.
btw if aren't already aware pureref is an amazing program for looking/saving references. Found out about it from RubberRoss
genuinely one of my fav programs because it's also just a nice one to look at images in general lol
Professional artists of all disciplines use references all the time. Anyone who claims that using references is "cheating" in the modern day is either trolling or misinformed.
It's like the elitism that people often complain about in the Soulsborne community: using the tools available to you isn't cheating, and not using them makes it harder than it needs to be and thus shouldn't be the expected norm.
@xerveeon absolutely. i feel like most of them were probably misinformed kids or being elitist to other kids. many also claimed tracing to be evil and while you shouldn't post traced work and claim it as your own, i find it really helpful for understanding and breaking down poses and anatomy on a reference before i try it myself. and it can be helpful to feel and understand something, train your hand and study how other artists do things.
i would enjoy this being a thing like once every or every second month with you just talking about random subjects, while drawing in the background, that sounds like amazing content for this channel
plus we'd get to see alpha slowly getting better at art.
I’m so happy you guys drew Tifa, genuinely made my night when you took the suggestion
Main Character PRO Artist vs Side Character PRO Artist
Ew
The jumpcuts to Alpha’s Tifa art going :3 are just so funny to me
i've been debating giving up art because of comparing myself on "where i should be" rather than appreciating where im at. the conversation you guys had around 13:18 really made my day and helped me drop the idea of giving up :)
What i have learned from this video is that alpharad's art style is perfect for silly little pictures and animations
This! All of this! I am a firm believer that every living person has the capacity and potential to be an artist, even if they doubt themselves. I'm gonna be real though, art is not easy, but it's rewarding. A lesson I've had to relearn time and again is that it's good to make bad art; making art is a good thing, and making bad art is better than making no art at all. I genuinely still struggle to accept that I am considered a decent artist now, but I've compared art I currently make to art that I drew several years ago and the difference is night and day. You will be genuinely shocked at how fast you can improve if you just keep at it! So to anyone who wants to get into art, just do it! Be patient, have fun with it, and just draw anything you want to draw! You've got this!
4:06 THE CUT TO TINA BLOCKHART I CANT- 😭
“You can see the mistakes in it”
"It takes the fun part out" exactly! We've been trained to think of everything as consumers. But the most irreplaceable value art provides society is to the artist, not the audience. Nothing but creating art can fill that need. Even if AI could flawlessly make original creative work, it's not something we should replace.
Koro made such a good point about tracing. It applies to any artform. No one has started off with their own style, everyone starts by imitating art they like and then combining the aspects they like most and feel fit them best and then over time it morphs into their own artstyle ^^
So, I should note, the stigma against tracing seems extra weird to me, because people learn to play music the exact same way, but nobody cares if you go up on stage and play somebody else's song unless it's something more obscure and you just don't credit the original performer. Think of tracing the same way you think of covering songs and I think your art and your attitude towards art has the potential to increase a lot
I've been drawing since my pudgy little toddler hands could hold a crayon, and tracing is most of my warmups. It builds good muscle memory for anatomy/shapes.
I think most people’s gripe is people tracing and then claiming it was their own original work but ofc not everyone does that and people still get flack. I see your point about music but I feel like when you play music you’re engaging with it in a way you may not while just copying the same line but I’m not sure how else to put this into words. It’s certainly helpful in the same way if you take the time to engage with the original piece though! Like someone else said this can be awesome as a warmup. I personally think trying to recreate it from memory can also be another great exercise afterwards.
I get where you’re coming from but I feel like looking at art for reference makes you learn more in the long run, because if you trace over the art as a beginner ur not necessarily understanding why it was drawn the way it was! It can help if you’re already more advanced and just trying to learn different artstyles but like I said for a beginner it’s better to learn at least a few fundamentals. And like another person already said in the replies it’s more about the people that claim that it’s their original art, but if you’re just studying it and not necessarily posting it then I think it’s relatively fine!! :D
Casiopea background music huge w today
16:11 one thing that helped me really early on was this artist that let people color their sketches! i would re-line everything to practice anatomy and then i'd color :) it was really fun and i got to try different coloring techniques
alpharad vs artist feels like a main channel video
Because that is the title of the main channel video
YOOOO CASSIOPEA
Alpharad has good music taste
Might have well as called this Pro Artist vs Pro Artist
Honestly alphas drawing has definelty improved! I can definitely see the progress!
I recently watched the other video with this idea, and I desperately wanted another one. I'm going to LOVE this
On the "using AI for cover art" thing, I really don't understand why some people say they just use AI since they can't afford submissions. There are plenty of artists that are just starting out who'd make you a pretty good cover art for free or cheap. Just approach some people who are still in school, they can use it for their portfolio
CASIOPEA??
Yeah wtf how is the video monetizable with definitely copyrighted music, it's a banger but, why?
Alphas art still looks better than the new spider man show
I literally just got an ad for the new Spiderman show
Ahhhh, yeah! Love my boy Koro! Awesome to see your art everytime! 🙏
Jacob, you draw good, too!
As a programmer and artist, I hope Ai stays as far away from programming as possible. From the way Ai is already being used to pump endless amount of visual slop onto the internet, I can't fathom how bad it would be if people could churn out code too...
I'm well aware current language models can "code" to an extent (based on data sets and whatever), but it hasn't been a whole FOCUS like images have been.
oh there was talk of AI is actually getting implemented into the big gaming engines, I think unreal at the very least, also it is very good at doing simple code or fixing code, seen people code games entirely using AI, and websites as just a standard thing.
Koro is probably my favorite “side character” in the Alpha Extended Universe. So very wholesome.
How fitting that they drew Sonic at the start. One of the concept "artists" on the new Sonic movie apparently did AI "art" which is absolutely fucking stupid that they're calling themselves a concept "artist"
0:05 I genuinely had a jumscare when Jacob played テイク•ミー by Casiopea P4 at the beginning of the video. I didn't think bro was so cultured.
pro artist vs more of a pro artist
also part of the fun of art is the PROCESS of making it! like i like drawing, not for the end product but the action of drawing
I can see the improvement over that video with Nova, keep up the great work Alpha! 👍
I'd love to see a stream of Alpharad just practicing art
Art doesn't have to be your only creative outlet, writing is another great outlet but like art it takes practice.
i really like this video, thanks for including your artists like this alpha
The point that there is a difference between talent and skill hits home to me. Going through college with very talented composers was discouraging at first. However, I eventually learned that my music was good and even if I have to work a little bit harder I still make great things.
I love these videos! Thank you for making this!
I wanted to do more creative things this year, so I bought a little travel watercolor set and have spent almost every day drawing pokemon. I look cards up and draw them freehand, which is incredibly fun! Making art is something I haven't done in a long time, and I honestly think the act itself has helped my mental health. Are my paintings great? Idk, but I love creating them.
Yooo based casiopea music
Natural talent is like a floor, where dedicating years if not decades to drawing is the skill ceiling. Anyone can do it, but it would be based on how much you want to progress.
It would be so cool if Jacob did like a 30 day drawing everyday type of challange because I think he has the potential
Based music choice, but won’t Casiopea cause copyright strikes?
Trying and drawing what you wanted to get out is infinitely more satisfying than using ai
Even if it's not amazing at least knowing you made it just feels nice
Wow, a podcast about art with a good artist and someone really trying to draw, talking about ethic art with some jazz fusion jam on the background! Uh, now that's a good day :)
Yea that bit about seeing people better than you who’ve been drawing less than you is really hard to deal with sometimes.
Casiopiea mention
i was not expecting to get jump-scared by casiopea for the intro
Wow... I really love this video. I'm currently on my social media art journey and no one is seeing my art, so I get so happy just seeing more than 2 views on a post. But yeah, art is DEFINITELY a process. I'm so proud of myself for how far I've come. Thank you so much for this video!
Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard
Literally right as this video ended, I got an add about generative art
sweet vid
i like the choices of artistic references by alpha
I could never see myself using AI in any creative capacity. Even though I hate doing line art, it’s still a necessary part of the process that would feel wrong to get rid of.
I love learning new techniques and mediums. Hell, any time I have an art block, I find a new medium to learn and be creative with. Sure, having a finished piece is nice to look at, but the best part about being an artist is the making of something.
Hey, on the same note as AI art was mentioned, I would like to bring up the music in the background, which is Midnight Rendezvous, by Casiopea, a great Japanese jazz band. It would be very nice to see them credited at least just as a small pop up on the video with the name, or even the description. People deserve credit for their work, always!
Yes! The first was one of my favorite videos you made.
Why does Koro sounds like Viktor from Arcane
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
Speaking of AI art - I just love to think that a person is behind something. That they spent actual effort or visualised something in their brain. Seeing Mario and Sonic making out is way funnier when you realise a real person spent hours of their life bringing it to life.
AI art literally takes that away.
CASIOPEA PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND 🔥
Yo, we finally get to see the third act
I always wanted a sequel of sorts of that old "VS Artist" vid, niceee
CASIOPEA MENTIONED
I MISSED THESE VIDS
Ai shouldn’t be used for creative things such as art and 3D models, it directly impacts the pockets of those artists, the ones who put their heart into these projects
Casiopea in the bg goes hard
Just like anything, learning to draw is a skill. It takes time to hone and perfect it. Raw talent will help when getting started. But a person who puts in the work and effort to practice and improve will always be better.
Also, I think the best way to improve is to practice the things you aren't good at drawing. Hands are always the first big obstacle any new artist faces. But by practicing drawing hands (and practice a loooooooot) at some point it'll just click.
casiopea - Take me as the background song is so amazing
I'm a simple girl guy person (maybe human), I see Hatsune Miku, I click
CASIOPIA!!!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The same people complaining that AI steals from artists almost certainly pirate music, movies, and tv shows. They claim "Oh, well because they're a multibillion dollar company it's okay." But then when the people who are poorer than them say "Well I wasn't going to commission the art anyway and I don't have the time or money to learn this skill," they turn on them. Being antiAI is so often a disgusting classist argument against people wanting to enjoy a medium they can't break into due to financial restrictions.
CASIOPEA WOAH
I think bro got better at art 😨
Watched farther into the video and can confirm bro is definitely so much better than last time
Alpharad casiopea enjoyer confirmed
AI defenders need to take note that the professional artist here made mistakes in his art every time but they still looked amazing. While Alpharad drew simpler rougher shapes that were within his skills letting him make better drawings. They did the same thing and with practice Alpharad could become as good as Koro because Koro is just further along the path.
dayumn, Casiopea gaming
jacob kinda cooked tho
On god, Jacob has gotten better at art since the last time he did this 😅🎉
5:45 idk why but i feel compelled to share my opinion: there’s a time and place for AI art. If it’s just a joke with your friends or some unserious thing it can be useful to just make whatever stupid thing your mind conjures up and it can get the joke across. However, AI art should never replace actual artists who make comics, animation, thumbnails, etc. if it’s something where originality matters, it shouldn’t be AI. if it’s just me wanting to make a silly picture of my friends kissing each other, AI is fine.
I HAVE BEEN FUCKING WAITING FOR THIS MOMENTTT
*sigh* fineeee, I’ll get the tablet out again
well that video intro wasn't at all confusing
6:50 yes, but also don't many AI generative softwares cost also a bunch of money? It feels like walking over a desert for a cup of water situation cuz anything, and I mean ANYTHING, you make regardless of skill level will be better than any AI "artist" garbage because you actually tried.
Also it sucks ass because of all the energy it uses, NFT's LEVELS OF ENERGY! I hate generative AI so much
Spark the electric jester 3
I just had a thought: AI art is piracy, which is only ok when it's from a large corporation. Stealing from a freelance artist, which is most of them, is wrong, so AI art is wrong.
Be mindful to these people, they work hard
If you're trying to learn how to draw:
Stop comparing yourself to others, compare yourself to your past work, and see if you have improved
Where have the uploads on the vod channel gone? No new ones in a week
Thinking about the point made at 6:40 I feel like a lot of people don't realize you don't need some crazy shit for an album cover. One of lil uzi vert's most famous ones is literally traced from scott pilgrim like plz
AI is a tool for the rich to access skills whilst also denying the skilled access to money
Alpharad’s Sonic is still better than Many Hands’
(That’s an Archie Comics reference, btw)
I swear to god u did this 4 years ago
Man if you only knew that my timestamp is on the other side
the black timestamp in the feed? how did you get it on the left?
@aag2139 My browser language is set to my language which is left to right
@@Nukhebuk never occurred to me they would flip the stamp side in that circumstance! thank you for the info man 👍
Pro Artist vs Another Pro artist guys Im seeing a connection between them
is that casiopea songs in the background?
art: made from scratch
ai "art": eats art and shits out images
it appeals to people who don't care about art and just want a cheap image
Wow, Casiopea.
i just watched that vid yesterday and now i get a part 2??!!