@@BenJPics9925 So I heard, not surprised, since it's such a massive critique on loony, entitled fans that it portrays a lot of the main cast as psychos
@@Imxel21 He is kinda right, in the comics all of them are quite toxic to a degree even jerry, but he is the only one that grows out of it, well pit ends up working on some adult films company
@@GrEEnF1Re1 yeah but if i remember correctly, Pete uses his position to exploit naive women...Jerry is the only normal one at the end and josh is more pathetic than evil by the end from what i can remember.
ngl, and not to harsh your joy but Eltingville was a product of its time, and I mean this in the perfect time capsule way, not outdated. Eltingville showed how the worst of western/American nerd fandom was like before nerd stuff opened up to girls into the 2000s because of stuff like Buffy to stuff like video games and anime/manga, and how these remnants were still around because of both society's ostracization because "going out and socializing means you're getting laid, and getting laid means you're a productive member of society because our king I mean society told us to fuck by societal standard so make more babies for the army because our world is sooooo perfect" and such bitter worse end insular groups thought of themselves as only a male's hobby space. Not that you couldn't make a modern Eltingville. I could see a bunch of selfpitying chud incels along with a foil group of fake woke lib-hypocrites doing the Eltingville schtick. The anime fan is one of those "Japan is the last traditional place and is full of yellow cabs so that's how I'll get laid" assholes while his mirror counterpart is a bit more likeable but not by much because they say stupid self centered about how "Japanese need to be as liberal as the United States" shit that gets them just as much odd and ire drawing looks from the local Asian American community on the street while they ignore their own local problems that could use actual attention to solve.
Very much so, granted, he’s still flawed, but at the very least I’m the Comic’s Epilogue he’s trying to be better than he once was. Can’t say the same for the others, especially Bill.
Fun fact: Dorkin ended the series when the internet showed that nerd culture was WORSE than anything he could have imagined the Eltingville Club doing.
@@t_hetty1758the question is was it that bad FOR GIRLS ANS WONEN just trying to go to a sticky dark LCS with gatekeepers Like ones with lived experience We aren’t dead yet
@@t_hetty1758it’s pretty bad, some of the stuff they say anyways. Especially the stuff that Bill or sometimes Pete says. There’s also a lot more sexual content in the comics.
It was a pure shame this never got a series because not only was it ahead of its time and be super relevant today picking at the toxic side of fandom/nerd culture, it’d fit the 2000’s Adult Swim brand like a glove along side Robot Chicken, Venture Bros, and Space Ghost Coast To Coast that reference and twist pop culture. Ontop of of that the AQUABATS made a outro theme too!? Missed opportunity, AS.
Jerry is the typical example of good guy who was with the wrong crowd. Once he got away from them, he made it good. He lives as a pro magic the gathering player, makes podcasts and he even has a GF
@@Yukooo333 i meant like toxicity wise. Obviously he does horrible things but like their Toxicity in the friend group he’s one of the least toxic ones w Josh and Bill being the worse
The fate of the character according to Dorkin: -Pete dies of overdose after being arrested for a MINOR crime _Bill dies from starvation after his family abandons him -Josh dies from a heart attack due to his obbesity -Jerome married with his girlfriend & kept being a professional roleplayer but he needed constant medication & atention due to his PTSD
@bluesheep7 he's a complete psycho, manipulator & incitator, That's why in the comics he's the only character who has blank eyes, so Dorkin could show how lack of remorse he is
@@cranburrey pete and jerry were debating whether boba fett was still alive, because in star wars he was devoured by a creature named sarlacc. eltingville was made before boba fett was revealed to be alive and thats why the joke aged pretty well
Out of all of them, Josh really looked like the most toxic of them all. He really couldn't feel like he's been seen as a loser. Bill is a close second what with his rage rivaling Josh big time. Pete and Jerry, while not saints given they'll steal from a kid, can have a civil discussion without resorting to violence or insults. I'd hang out with Pete and Jerry.
In the comic it's a different story. Josh seems like the most toxic at first, but as it goes on you see how sad and pathetic he really is. Jerry is pretty much the same as he is in the pilot and even grows up to be well-adjusted by the end. Pete is a lot more sadistic compared to the pilot, with him not being above committing arson and growing up to be a horror porn director that takes advantage of the women in his films. Then there's Bill. Good god Bill. Much like Josh, at the start of the comic he's the same as his pilot counterpart (albeit a little cruel) only to become *extremely* toxic which divulges into pure sociopathy.
11:26 the little asian boy is voiced by Tara Jayne Sands, the same actress who frequently voice acted for various characters in Pokemon, and actually still does to this day.
@@lunebadru5997 Dude, nerd culture is WORSE than this. This is why Dorkin ended the series. He realized the real thing is much worse than anything he could come up with.
If I had to call any part of the Eltingville club cute, I think Josh yelling his friend's name with a smile was kinda cute, even if it lost him Boba Fett
I lived in a world where this had many a season. Last night I was watching adult swim broadcast from the 2000s and this came on, I was very high and watched all of it and naturally assumed there was many episodes. I woke up and tried to find more episodes on UA-cam and had trouble then googled the name and quickly realised this was a pilot. From when I fell asleep to when I woke up this existed in multiple season. Rip
The fact this never became a show is criminal I love this pilot Just about my only gripe is the arguing could have been condensed but for a pilot this is still really really good!
I think that compared to the comics the arguing is like heavily dialed back. But i still think it’s a lot as well but it also showcases their hostile behaviors towards each other well, more specifically Bill and Josh’s behaviors.
Yes! Some trigger warnings for the comic: theres some violence, a lot of swearing, some sexual content, and way more arguing than in the pilot. If u want I can link it so u can read it just the website has a lot of popups.
@@giornogiovannascumslut7828 Jason Harris Katz is to blame 😂😂😂 he made Bill sound cute ❤ He has a voice that hot since he voiced Chad/Numbuh 274 in Codename: Kids Next Door lol
I imagine the lack of base content from the comic wouldn’t be too bad of a problem considering Evan Dorkin produced the pilot , so there would be a lot less filler and more story from the man himself :) i would hope haha
Seeing that the pilot is based on the actual comic makes me wonder what the other episodes could’ve been about. I think an episode based on the Twilight Zone marathon would’ve been cool to see.
@ i’m aware! I’m just saying had they continued they could have done the 4 issues that had been made already. The one i’m talking about had already been published in 1997!!
@@littletroublegirl18 yeah, I know, as far as I read, they planned to change a lot from the source material, that's why Bill had a teenage sister instead of a baby brother, & also, a lot of the Twilight Marathon segments were present on this episode which makes me think if they would mix a lot of the issues to make the episodes if they produced the show
@@easyparts-fj7mmFun Fact: in the latam spanish dub, Bill got voiced by the guy who made the voice of Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man in the Sam Raimi movies
I feel like a modern Eltingville Club could be so good. This show and the comic were so ahead of its time showing the mysoginy, pathetic, and frankly incel behavior that plagues a lot of fandom spaces. A lot of stuff before this would just showcase nerds as if they were these poor perfect wallflowers. I think with the new wave for randomization on Twitter and Tumblr you could show a whole new side of toxic fandoms in a revival. But I feel like it could very much the reboot route of hyperfocusing on modern commentary losing what made the original special
That would unironically suck (remember the Clone High reboot) This show was both ahead of its time and it's a product of its time; from before geek culture became so commodified for the mainstream, when it was really just something for misfit teenagers and even worse adults, them acting toxic to one another had no real impact because their drama was kept in their insular communities (unlike now where some people reject engaging with certain works of media if they've heard their fandom is even midly toxic)
@@DeepWeebHit the nail on the head. By some miracle stroke of luck most of the things referenced in this pilot are still relevant and remembered but Eltingville is still pretty dated. Also OG Clone High is great but almost every single guest star has aged horribly. Nerd culture is no longer niche and pop culture moves too fast for a show like this to be any good.
@@jordanloux3883 True lol and I read the full comic after watching the pilot and good lord are the characters monsters in that. Cartoon Pete & Jerry (of course) come off as chill nerds though.
I enjoyed the pilot and I only got into the comics as of late. I don’t know how to explain it but animated Pete looks like he doesn’t belong, he looks like he’d bully them 😭
@@System-ly6deas good as this pilot is i am GLAD it’s just that and i want it to stay that way bc i know the fandom would be filled with dudes who miss the part that this is making fun of them
Honestly, I don't like Josh's answer for the "Who were the Ents?" question. "The trees from Lord of the Rings" doesn't cut the mustard for me. They are living and sentient creatures that closely resemble trees, but they aren't trees perse. At the very least, I would have asked for more detail.
Also he didn't specify which fritz the cat he was asking about, I would have answered ralph bakshi because he made the movie adaptation but not the comic book
I’m really surprised that these four are still friends given that they fight and argue about fandom all the time. If I had friends that fought like the Eltingville boys, I would have cut them off.
The What a Cartoon podcast talked about this in their episode on the pilot. Back at the time the comic the episode is based on was written, you really didn't have the luxury of picking friends as a nerd, so the only people you shared interests in were, nine times out of ten, people you honestly kinda fucking hated.
Yea, truth be told I always wondered about that as well, granted I think the closest answer is because of the stuff they "lend" each other, but in all likelihood there was this quick chapter where Josh and Bill, basically drove a guy into quitting his job with their toxic fandom nitpicking,
welcome to eltingville was the best adult cartoon i had ever liked since beavis and butt-head. sometimes i'm pissed off at stupid cartoon network for never giving that show a chance to become a series, since one episode was never enough.
Yep he sure did although I think the guy who created this knew that already. Just like Jango Fett was actually proven once and for all to have been a mandalorian
This show was lit. It's messed up looking back at it now, but everything was messed up when we were kids so it felt pretty tame to us back them lmao. Still. for anyone balking at the tone, that was literally the point. "Dorkin has received both praise and backlash from readers over his description of comic book readers and the geek fandom." "Of Eltingville's humor, he has stated that "The humor is supposed to hit close to home, Eltingville's a joke but it's supposed to be an uncomfortable one, it's not about cuddly, cute, awkward fans, it's always been about the unsocial, self-absorbed, arrogant little tyrants that make fandom a less fun place, the idiots who make death threats to creators and r@p3 threats against women writing about sexism in the video game industry, who flip out about the casting of an actor playing a fictional character, who argue the most ridiculous points of trivia as if they honestly matter in the scheme of things, who put fantasy above reality and don't know how to behave like credible human beings and go bonkers if they're called on that behavior. Most fans aren't like that, but in all aspects of life the trolls are the loudest and the proudest and they really junk the joint up."
I know this might be a weird comparison, but I think of this and the Eltingville comics as the nerd/geek equivalent to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I mean, we have a small group of people doing terrible things, they always fight with each other, the whole point of the show is to laugh at how awful they are, and some of the terrible things they do in the comics (two instances of burning down buildings, abusing medication during the Twilight Zone marathon, the Comic-Con epilogue) wouldn't be out of place in Always Sunny.
Going off the tone of this episode, I imagine the show would've had a substantially more light hearted tone to it for the sake of a general audience. Well, light-hearted in comparison to the comic... A mean spirited show, but not enough for any of the boys to be hateable.
ngl, there are people who are like this. They don't show it in real life, by the way, unless they are in spaces where they feel they can let their true colors show. Treat the internet like you would going outside. Stay safe.
I think it’s bc Joe knows that they hang out with them, so he’d rather not have them there either. In the comics I think that Joe has a book on all his customers and how he cannot stand any of them and how he hates them all and all four of the Eltingville members are in there😭
I never saw the pilot, because even though I was only seven years old at the time, the only shows I would watch on adult swim would be home movies, aqua teen hunger force, and sometimes I would watch Inuyasha. But this pilot was actually hilarious. I really want to check out the comic book now since I read Evan’s other work, Milk & Cheese and really enjoyed it.
@@emanluca3753 I think more middle of the road would be best, like maybe Family Guy levels of swearing. Would let the characters let loose like kids their age without being over the top.
At risk of sounding like the very thing this show is trying to mock, I really appreciate the Slave Labor Graphics easter egg at 21:22. I love JTHM. I also saw that the original comic was published by them.
my boyfriend told me i was like jerry so i watched this out of curiosity and the very first thing i said after watching this was "jerry's just like me fr"
A shame that this never got a full series with either 2, 3 or 4 seasons on Adult Swim. This show looked really good with a lot of geek culture references.
@@maganashaker167 Considering how much tamer this is compared to the comic, maybe it wouldn’t have followed it to a T. I think the show was going to be more lighthearted and comedic instead of horrific like the comic and the characters would’ve been portrayed as just pathetic losers instead of heartless sociopaths like in the comic.
@thecollector4332 Exactly. This is SIGNIFICANTLY tamer than the comics. The comics have more let's say realistic dialogue and really convey the critique of the toxic side of nerd culture/fandom much better than this which focuses more on just being funny. Where it would go south today is it would inevitably have some snide subtext about muh white cis men that would ruin the subtlety of the comic.
@@thecollector4332 they probably, probably would have gone the big bang theory route of trying to make them seem misunderstood and reward them instead of showing and threating them like what they actually are: assholes....well except for jerry
I don't know, for the cartoon I could kinda see them "reuniting" well more like the nurses at their senior home, wheeling them to the same table, because they don't wanna deal with them,
It's kinda strange after hearing about Pete's fate in the comic whereas here he's basically an everyman alongside Jerry. Makes me wonder if they were gonna have him slide into being more and more of a pervert over time if this pilot got picked up into a show. Granted probably not since as far as I'm aware this all came before Dorkin ended the series. Right? I don't actually know.
@@RoninRenTrue. In the Eltingville comic, Joe the comic store owner says he doesn't sell any "anime/manga shit" in his shop despite those like Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, and Pokémon were rising animes back in the 90's.
Joe probably could sell that Boba Fett for $1000 easy today. Also, Pete was right about Boba Fett. It does make me wonder what they'd think about Star Wars now.
Before there was the Book of Boba Fett show, there were actual comics that the bounty hunter did got out of the Sarlaac Pit alive years before Disney acquired the SW brand
Not necessarily, except Star Wars, but they renamed a lot of IPs in the comic book store. But my guess is back 2002 a lot of people weren’t interested in toxic nerd culture as they are now. Nerds used to be individual we stayed away from, but now it’s become acceptable in modern culture. I should know, I used to get mocked for looking a total dweeb and bragging about beating Zelda on a broken N64 cartridge. I’m not saying it’s the sole reason but it could be part of the reason but I also know, the animation style used for this show isn’t cheap either because it’s the same animation as Clerk the animated series which was like a million per episode I believe. I know the budget for the animated series was pretty high because it was part of a tax write off (I’m not educated on that) but this is just speculation on my part.
You so won't believe what I just found out: Corey Brill (Jerry), he and that lady from Duncanville who voices Jing, they're married. I guess that Finally answered my question on what's been going on with him. I grew up with just Tara Sands and Jason Harris' voices ya know...let's just say I was curious plus I wish the VA's for the main guys to play the characters I imagined someday
Wait, they formed a DnD party of only three fighter-type classes? I've never played a TTG in my life and even I know that's a really unbalanced team. No wonder they got slaughtered.
@@amelialonelyfart8848 I'm going to take your word for it, since like I said, I don't play TTGs myself. That said, this pilot (and the comic it was based on) is from the 90's/2000 era; I'm sure that would be a lot harder in older editions.
If this ever got made into an official series they'd need to do an Ep about "franchise fatigue" where movie theaters just seem to be outlets for producing established franchises, reboots of established franchises, and spinoffs of established franchises and they're the only people who're all for this and find it odd how the average consumer doesn't have the time to sit thru all this anymore. Like they're offended that people are now demanding unique original ideas instead of commercialized slop because they've been watching it with rose tinted glasses as obligation for the brand
There's a universe where this show got a lot of seasons while The Big Bang Theory never went beyond the pilot, let that sink in
We're living in the worst timeline
I dunno about a lot of seasons, the comic it's based on had a definitive ending.
@@Kytseo Even for a comic series, Eltingville had a dark as shit ending. lol
@@BenJPics9925 So I heard, not surprised, since it's such a massive critique on loony, entitled fans that it portrays a lot of the main cast as psychos
the hell does the sink want now
These guys are friends not because they like each other but, because no one else will tolerate them
That's a damn good point, really.
Misery loves company. Unless said company is completely toxic.
Idk the blond one seems chill
@@Imxel21 He is kinda right, in the comics all of them are quite toxic to a degree even jerry, but he is the only one that grows out of it, well pit ends up working on some adult films company
@@GrEEnF1Re1 yeah but if i remember correctly, Pete uses his position to exploit naive women...Jerry is the only normal one at the end and josh is more pathetic than evil by the end from what i can remember.
"I ain't no anti-Semite, I have every Spielberg movie on tape!" Holy shit, that line is gold.
Gold what? Goldschmidt?
Even his bad movies?
@@Launchpad05 Especially his bad movies.
@@Dilbert1999 I'd like to think that you can like Spielberg as A film maker, and still be critically objective of his filmography.
I feel like this show would have utterly changed people's perception of nerds and nerd culture
Ah yes, this shows the Ugly side of nerd culture.... I'd totally watch this.
Agree
luckily theres a whole comi book series about it!
Wait really?
it's geek NooT NeRd!!11
Who are u talking to
I would gladly pefer saying "Biddy Biddy Biddy" over "Bazinga" any day of the week!
Who say biddy biddy biddy?
@@tomedy_officialJerry!
No! Wait! Twiki!
@@reillymcwritingAlso King Ghidorah
@@reillymcwritingTOO LATE! TOO LATE YOU LOSE!! YOU LOSE!!! HAHAHAAHA
@@reillymcwritinggenius 🎩🧠🧐👌
after reading the full comic this pilot is insanely tame in comparison
is there anywhere i can find it online?
@@c4rm3n_gamingI second that
Bringing this back in 2024 would be amazing, imagine having episodes about moderating discord, my little pony, reddit, and animie
bruh this would print money
I’m manifesting it 😭
ngl, and not to harsh your joy but Eltingville was a product of its time, and I mean this in the perfect time capsule way, not outdated. Eltingville showed how the worst of western/American nerd fandom was like before nerd stuff opened up to girls into the 2000s because of stuff like Buffy to stuff like video games and anime/manga, and how these remnants were still around because of both society's ostracization because "going out and socializing means you're getting laid, and getting laid means you're a productive member of society because our king I mean society told us to fuck by societal standard so make more babies for the army because our world is sooooo perfect" and such bitter worse end insular groups thought of themselves as only a male's hobby space.
Not that you couldn't make a modern Eltingville. I could see a bunch of selfpitying chud incels along with a foil group of fake woke lib-hypocrites doing the Eltingville schtick. The anime fan is one of those "Japan is the last traditional place and is full of yellow cabs so that's how I'll get laid" assholes while his mirror counterpart is a bit more likeable but not by much because they say stupid self centered about how "Japanese need to be as liberal as the United States" shit that gets them just as much odd and ire drawing looks from the local Asian American community on the street while they ignore their own local problems that could use actual attention to solve.
It's a shame this never took off, I enjoyed it
Yeah I agree
It was probably the anti semite joke
Is it me or does the orange sweater guy looks like peter Parker?
At least inspired Other creations. I mean who knows someone might do a retake of this
@@tomedy_official I know what I will say sounds silly but has anyone try to do a fan animation?
Can we all just agree that out of all of the members in the Eltingville Club, Jerry is the only good one?
real. hes silly
Very much so, granted, he’s still flawed, but at the very least I’m the Comic’s Epilogue he’s trying to be better than he once was.
Can’t say the same for the others, especially Bill.
He's the most normal and decent one in the comics and show
jerry is adorable bidi bidi bidi
In the comic, he's the most successful of the bunch when he becomes an adult. He's basically the Kenny of the group.
Fun fact: Dorkin ended the series when the internet showed that nerd culture was WORSE than anything he could have imagined the Eltingville Club doing.
I mean sheesh. From the snippets I’ve seen of the comics these kids can be nuts. But yea a ton of what is goin down now is crazy.
@kidmedianetworksofficial_USA is the comic that bad?
@@t_hetty1758the question is was it that bad FOR GIRLS ANS WONEN just trying to go to a sticky dark LCS with gatekeepers
Like ones with lived experience
We aren’t dead yet
@phunkycharmsu can find the comic online. I can link the site where I had read it if u want it
@@t_hetty1758it’s pretty bad, some of the stuff they say anyways. Especially the stuff that Bill or sometimes Pete says. There’s also a lot more sexual content in the comics.
It was a pure shame this never got a series because not only was it ahead of its time and be super relevant today picking at the toxic side of fandom/nerd culture, it’d fit the 2000’s Adult Swim brand like a glove along side Robot Chicken, Venture Bros, and Space Ghost Coast To Coast that reference and twist pop culture. Ontop of of that the AQUABATS made a outro theme too!? Missed opportunity, AS.
This is the most toxic group of TV friends I’ve ever seen. The South Park boys get along better than these guys do.
Even Kyle and Cartman get along better than this. They're even worse in the comics.
@@Batben90With the exception of Jerry.
its the whole point ....in the comic they even break up because of it
Isn't Cartman the only genuine bad apple in that group though?
@@thadmaster7 Yeah, but sometimes he and Kyle will put their differences aside for a common goal.
Well Pete was right about Boba Fett surviving🤣🤣🤣🤣
dont know why nobody said it, but this has the aura of newgrounds bleeding straight through itself
literally this would b a hit if some1 picked it up.... i.e smiling friends
" that stuff's worth more than your mother!" What a line!
The amount of hostility in this episode is NOTHING compared to what we get in the comics
And that’s saying something. Oof…
If only it got animated
From what I heard, in the comics, Jerry was the least toxic of the group.
He really is. Pete isn’t too bad compared to Josh and Bill but he’s still kind of toxic. Josh is just kind of pathetic in the comics.
Jerry is the typical example of good guy who was with the wrong crowd. Once he got away from them, he made it good. He lives as a pro magic the gathering player, makes podcasts and he even has a GF
@@littletroublegirl18i disagree, i think Pete is worse than Josh. Pretty sure Pete is a sex offender, while Josh is just really pathetic.
@@Yukooo333 i meant like toxicity wise. Obviously he does horrible things but like their
Toxicity in the friend group he’s one of the least toxic ones w Josh and Bill being the worse
i'd say it goes like this (least toxic to most)
Jerry
Pete
Josh
Bill
I feel like this pilot is going to be revived somehow since we're still talking about it.
Idk why I feel like everyone has been talking abt it these last weeks
Hope so. I want to hear Jason voice Bill again
*Monkey paw curls*
Would love to see it as like The Boondocks, but lambasts nerd/geek culture. So much you can satirize in modern nerd culture.
@@AlbinoAxolotl1993 I don’t trust mainstream media to handle it.
The fate of the character according to Dorkin:
-Pete dies of overdose after being arrested for a MINOR crime
_Bill dies from starvation after his family abandons him
-Josh dies from a heart attack due to his obbesity
-Jerome married with his girlfriend & kept being a professional roleplayer but he needed constant medication & atention due to his PTSD
Jerome? I thought his name was Jerry
@@SAMSONDODGEPRODUCTIONS in the last issue he mentions he stopped calling himself Jerry after highscool & start to use his fullname, Jerome
I feel kinda bad about pete because he didn't seem too bad, but I'd 100% be a caretaker for Jerry!!
@k3nnedy_drawzz oh my, Pete is awful in the comics, specially at the very end. No spoilers, but he's just as bad as Bill, if not worse.
@bluesheep7 he's a complete psycho, manipulator & incitator, That's why in the comics he's the only character who has blank eyes, so Dorkin could show how lack of remorse he is
I like how Bill’s eyebrows are almost always in the angry position
There’s a word for it. “Furrowed”
RBF
Bill or Pete's?
That Boba Fett joke has aged pretty well
I wonder how those guys would react, now.
@@trasegorsuch5140 Seeing the state of Star Wars today, it would be devastating.
@@trasegorsuch5140just find any random rage baiter on UA-camr and you’d get the same thing
Context?
@@cranburrey pete and jerry were debating whether boba fett was still alive, because in star wars he was devoured by a creature named sarlacc. eltingville was made before boba fett was revealed to be alive and thats why the joke aged pretty well
i would KILL for a full show of this
You’re thinking like them now….
Out of all of them, Josh really looked like the most toxic of them all. He really couldn't feel like he's been seen as a loser. Bill is a close second what with his rage rivaling Josh big time. Pete and Jerry, while not saints given they'll steal from a kid, can have a civil discussion without resorting to violence or insults.
I'd hang out with Pete and Jerry.
In the comic Bill is waaaaaaaay worse
In the comic it's a different story. Josh seems like the most toxic at first, but as it goes on you see how sad and pathetic he really is.
Jerry is pretty much the same as he is in the pilot and even grows up to be well-adjusted by the end.
Pete is a lot more sadistic compared to the pilot, with him not being above committing arson and growing up to be a horror porn director that takes advantage of the women in his films.
Then there's Bill. Good god Bill. Much like Josh, at the start of the comic he's the same as his pilot counterpart (albeit a little cruel) only to become *extremely* toxic which divulges into pure sociopathy.
Bill is an absolute menace in the comic LOLL
@@JG-pt3xe thank goodness this show never got past the pilot bc i would've hated to see pete grow horrinle
They remind me of people I know
What I've noticed is how much more tame the characters are in the show compared to the comic, the swearing for example has definitely been toned down
And the rampant horniness 😭
i love the artstyle and character designs in this
This pilot was ahead of it's time, would totally watch this show every week for let's say 20 to 30 minutes a pop
Fun fact: The person who composed the background music for the Eltingville pilot is the same dude who composed the BGM for Recess.
Another Fun Fact: The pilot was Directed by Chuck Sheetz, who was the Lead director on Recess.
Be cool if it was in the same universe
@@Batben90didn't someone who worked on Kim possible help animate this or am I confusing it for clerks tas?
@@berniekatzroy they do have ethe same art style.
Neeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrd!
I was so impressed by this show and the animation looks so damm amazing
@YamiYugiMutoSternberger4268nah its way better you mustn’t be looking at your screen
That was one of the reasons it didn't go on, it would have been too expensive to keep this level of quality.
this is such a weird thing to find in 2024 lmao I have no words
this one is for the culture it belongs in the canon.
literally found this HOURS before 2025, starting off the new year well👌
11:26 the little asian boy is voiced by Tara Jayne Sands, the same actress who frequently voice acted for various characters in Pokemon, and actually still does to this day.
¿TARA SANDS?
¿THAT TARA _Circe from Generator Rex & Angel from TMNT_ SANDS?
@ArcTrooper269 Yes that Tara Sands who was also the host of Cartoon Network Fridays
@@oddball3264 Wow, what a cool fact to know 👌🏼
Now that's what I call RANGE
These kids probably grew up to think everything they dont like is woke.
I hate to say it but you're right
Especially Josh. He would definitely be an anti-woke grifter
You’re right! In the comics Bill grows up to be a raging sexist and racist, even shocking and horrifying the others.
I watched this pilot, and then read the comic.
Watching the pilot again, it's nice to see them in a friendlier state.
I can't help myself. I keep coming back! We lost a gem with this one.
Literally reddit/4chan if it had a show.... netflix should pick this bad boy up
Nerd culture compressed into one pilot. Now imagine this insanity with a 13 episode season.
one could dream
Nerd culture on pure display. We need more of this
specifically the mean side
This is exactly what nerd culture is now. This was far before it's time it deserves a second chance by real fans of this certified hood classic
@@lunebadru5997 Dude, nerd culture is WORSE than this. This is why Dorkin ended the series. He realized the real thing is much worse than anything he could come up with.
@@jordanloux3883Let’s just be glad he capped at this.
If I had to call any part of the Eltingville club cute, I think Josh yelling his friend's name with a smile was kinda cute, even if it lost him Boba Fett
i want this to be a show SOOOO BAD this needs to be a real show . wishing and hoping
adult swim shouldve picked this up, this is amazing
I lived in a world where this had many a season. Last night I was watching adult swim broadcast from the 2000s and this came on, I was very high and watched all of it and naturally assumed there was many episodes. I woke up and tried to find more episodes on UA-cam and had trouble then googled the name and quickly realised this was a pilot. From when I fell asleep to when I woke up this existed in multiple season. Rip
Toonami aftermath? Because same
@@amadoodle3597aftermath and was the shit
The fact this never became a show is criminal I love this pilot
Just about my only gripe is the arguing could have been condensed but for a pilot this is still really really good!
I think that compared to the comics the arguing is like heavily dialed back. But i still think it’s a lot as well but it also showcases their hostile behaviors towards each other well, more specifically Bill and Josh’s behaviors.
@@littletroublegirl18 wait?! This was a comic ooh! That’s so cool!
Yes! Some trigger warnings for the comic: theres some violence, a lot of swearing, some sexual content, and way more arguing than in the pilot. If u want I can link it so u can read it just the website has a lot of popups.
@@littletroublegirl18 sure! Thank you for letting me those know this, I think that’s super cool!
@@drawingfandome ur welcome!!
When you feel like Bill is kind of cute, so you look up the comic to see if he becomes a better person and...Well, I'm a Jerry fan now.
I still think Bill is cute, even after reading the comic, what do I do 😭
@@giornogiovannascumslut7828 Jason Harris Katz is to blame 😂😂😂 he made Bill sound cute ❤ He has a voice that hot since he voiced Chad/Numbuh 274 in Codename: Kids Next Door lol
@giornogiovannascumslut7828 Japanese ritual suicide.
It's Jason Harris's fault😂😂😂😂 His voice is sexy as all get out!
I still think he's cute😭 He's just more unhinged and way more of an asshole
I really hope this ends up in a Clone High situation. The bad part is that there's less animated (not comic) material about it.
i would be so unbelievably happy, especially since im also a fan of clone high LOLL
I would love for this series to get the support clone high got 😭
It’d be hard to make it since a lot of its humor and references were specific to the time period it was written in
Same, i was there when clone high was at its peak in 2020/2021 and i really hope the eltingville club gets the same treatment 😭
I imagine the lack of base content from the comic wouldn’t be too bad of a problem considering Evan Dorkin produced the pilot , so there would be a lot less filler and more story from the man himself :) i would hope haha
Seeing that the pilot is based on the actual comic makes me wonder what the other episodes could’ve been about. I think an episode based on the Twilight Zone marathon would’ve been cool to see.
The thing is, for the time the pilot air, there were only 4 issues
@ i’m aware! I’m just saying had they continued they could have done the 4 issues that had been made already. The one i’m talking about had already been published in 1997!!
@@littletroublegirl18 yeah, I know, as far as I read, they planned to change a lot from the source material, that's why Bill had a teenage sister instead of a baby brother, & also, a lot of the Twilight Marathon segments were present on this episode which makes me think if they would mix a lot of the issues to make the episodes if they produced the show
I want this kinda nerd culture for a show
Not...whatever Big Bang Theory is
The orange sweater guy reminds me of peter Parker.
@@easyparts-fj7mmFun Fact: in the latam spanish dub, Bill got voiced by the guy who made the voice of Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man in the Sam Raimi movies
@@tom.8709 oh cool
@@tom.8709 and josh ironicallly got the voice of harry from the same movie, now that's funny
@@tom.8709 We don't care about your sh1th0l3 dubs
"suddenly i know what pity is" i love that line
11:56 Bro looks like a teenage Pico.
Believe it or not, he's voiced by none other than Evan Dorkin, who created the Eltingville Club comic.
Imagine a show about modern fandom culture, instead of this they are a bunch of teens fighting about fandom discourse
I feel like a modern Eltingville Club could be so good. This show and the comic were so ahead of its time showing the mysoginy, pathetic, and frankly incel behavior that plagues a lot of fandom spaces. A lot of stuff before this would just showcase nerds as if they were these poor perfect wallflowers. I think with the new wave for randomization on Twitter and Tumblr you could show a whole new side of toxic fandoms in a revival. But I feel like it could very much the reboot route of hyperfocusing on modern commentary losing what made the original special
That would unironically suck (remember the Clone High reboot)
This show was both ahead of its time and it's a product of its time; from before geek culture became so commodified for the mainstream, when it was really just something for misfit teenagers and even worse adults, them acting toxic to one another had no real impact because their drama was kept in their insular communities (unlike now where some people reject engaging with certain works of media if they've heard their fandom is even midly toxic)
@@DeepWeebHit the nail on the head.
By some miracle stroke of luck most of the things referenced in this pilot are still relevant and remembered but Eltingville is still pretty dated.
Also OG Clone High is great but almost every single guest star has aged horribly.
Nerd culture is no longer niche and pop culture moves too fast for a show like this to be any good.
this is like south park if the main four were 300x grosser and more evil LMAOO
The blonde guy is (slightly) less evil than the others
Josh:“What’re you, a commie?!”
No. Just a tax dodger.
Adult swim:ending series early
Also Adult swim:doesn't pick up the best show
This is one of the best pilots I ever watched. My only lamentation is that they should have focused more on why geeks bond together.
I think they made it clear. They hang out together because nobody else wants them.
@@jordanloux3883 True lol and I read the full comic after watching the pilot and good lord are the characters monsters in that. Cartoon Pete & Jerry (of course) come off as chill nerds though.
I enjoyed the pilot and I only got into the comics as of late. I don’t know how to explain it but animated Pete looks like he doesn’t belong, he looks like he’d bully them 😭
i don't like how well this has aged 💀
Netflix would print money with this
@@System-ly6deas good as this pilot is i am GLAD it’s just that and i want it to stay that way bc i know the fandom would be filled with dudes who miss the part that this is making fun of them
@@seasaltcosmos bruh in this age.... this could b the new Smiling Friends
Honestly, I don't like Josh's answer for the "Who were the Ents?" question.
"The trees from Lord of the Rings" doesn't cut the mustard for me. They are living and sentient creatures that closely resemble trees, but they aren't trees perse.
At the very least, I would have asked for more detail.
you'll fit right in as the fifth member of the club.
@@gary7867naah, his comment was too nice to be like those losers
@@mendigocomfebre7620 if jerry can fit in with these dicks than so can he
Geek alert.
(I meant it in a funny way)
Also he didn't specify which fritz the cat he was asking about, I would have answered ralph bakshi because he made the movie adaptation but not the comic book
I enjoyed this pilot, but I honestly dont think that I could stand to watch those two arguing with each other for an entire season.
I concur, that would be unbearable
I’m really surprised that these four are still friends given that they fight and argue about fandom all the time. If I had friends that fought like the Eltingville boys, I would have cut them off.
The What a Cartoon podcast talked about this in their episode on the pilot. Back at the time the comic the episode is based on was written, you really didn't have the luxury of picking friends as a nerd, so the only people you shared interests in were, nine times out of ten, people you honestly kinda fucking hated.
@@zerodollarbird that's fucking hilarious tho
Yea, truth be told I always wondered about that as well, granted I think the closest answer is because of the stuff they "lend" each other, but in all likelihood there was this quick chapter where Josh and Bill, basically drove a guy into quitting his job with their toxic fandom nitpicking,
@@zerodollarbirdwhere can I find this podcast?
@@desuretard8654 What a Cartoon is on Spotify and I was also able to find it on the app I use, Podcast Addict.
welcome to eltingville was the best adult cartoon i had ever liked since beavis and butt-head. sometimes i'm pissed off at stupid cartoon network for never giving that show a chance to become a series, since one episode was never enough.
20:06 bro Pete just predicted the fucking future since it's canon that he survived.
Yep he sure did although I think the guy who created this knew that already. Just like Jango Fett was actually proven once and for all to have been a mandalorian
5:44 A Facial Expression of a rule 34 Artist
type in remert on there
Especially Josh, Pete, and Bill. Jerry looks like he's on LSD
Those are the faces of r*pists………!! 😳
5:41 Now That's What I Call reaction. 😎👍👍
@@mgsgamer8340 bruh, where do you find this shit
6:53 Josh, you are literally eating garbage.
But they were still good
This show was lit. It's messed up looking back at it now, but everything was messed up when we were kids so it felt pretty tame to us back them lmao.
Still. for anyone balking at the tone, that was literally the point.
"Dorkin has received both praise and backlash from readers over his description of comic book readers and the geek fandom."
"Of Eltingville's humor, he has stated that "The humor is supposed to hit close to home, Eltingville's a joke but it's supposed to be an uncomfortable one, it's not about cuddly, cute, awkward fans, it's always been about the unsocial, self-absorbed, arrogant little tyrants that make fandom a less fun place, the idiots who make death threats to creators and r@p3 threats against women writing about sexism in the video game industry, who flip out about the casting of an actor playing a fictional character, who argue the most ridiculous points of trivia as if they honestly matter in the scheme of things, who put fantasy above reality and don't know how to behave like credible human beings and go bonkers if they're called on that behavior. Most fans aren't like that, but in all aspects of life the trolls are the loudest and the proudest and they really junk the joint up."
Is it weird that I keep coming back to this everyday?
I just want it to be a full show so bad 😔
@@ThriftedFaithSame, dude, same...
@@ThriftedFaiththat won’t happen. This show makes fun of nerds that applies to a massive spectrum of them they won’t like it
Saw the trivia fight on TV when I was 6, I've been waiting 22 years to figure out what this is. Finally, I can fucking die.
I know this might be a weird comparison, but I think of this and the Eltingville comics as the nerd/geek equivalent to It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I mean, we have a small group of people doing terrible things, they always fight with each other, the whole point of the show is to laugh at how awful they are, and some of the terrible things they do in the comics (two instances of burning down buildings, abusing medication during the Twilight Zone marathon, the Comic-Con epilogue) wouldn't be out of place in Always Sunny.
Big bang theory meets its always sunny
No that's a very apt comparison.
@@mdalos0624 yuck, Big Bang is superficially nerdy. Like the opposite end of the spectrum from Eltingville.
Makes you think if the show was picked up their endings could have been better
Netflix should pick this up
No wonder it didn't get picked up, the animation is WAY TOO GOOD for TV.
Going off the tone of this episode, I imagine the show would've had a substantially more light hearted tone to it for the sake of a general audience. Well, light-hearted in comparison to the comic... A mean spirited show, but not enough for any of the boys to be hateable.
this show is a banger
ngl, there are people who are like this. They don't show it in real life, by the way, unless they are in spaces where they feel they can let their true colors show. Treat the internet like you would going outside. Stay safe.
I've always been curious to why Pete and Jerry were also thrown out of the comic store when all that time they've been on the sidelines.
I think it’s bc Joe knows that they hang out with them, so he’d rather not have them there either. In the comics I think that Joe has a book on all his customers and how he cannot stand any of them and how he hates them all and all four of the Eltingville members are in there😭
@@littletroublegirl18 the only reason he didn't banned them is because they blow most of their allowances on his business.
'Guilt by Association' is a bitch sometimes.
@@666kingdrummer it really is
I never saw the pilot, because even though I was only seven years old at the time, the only shows I would watch on adult swim would be home movies, aqua teen hunger force, and sometimes I would watch Inuyasha. But this pilot was actually hilarious.
I really want to check out the comic book now since I read Evan’s other work, Milk & Cheese and really enjoyed it.
The comics are alright too, but other than color i think (it's probably the voices and animation) the pilot just has more charm ngl.
Totally. The Comic is good, but it does gore and swearing for the sake of shock writing. This seems so much better.
@@emanluca3753 I think more middle of the road would be best, like maybe Family Guy levels of swearing. Would let the characters let loose like kids their age without being over the top.
Characters are too grotesque on the comics, the animation is definitely more enjoyable imo
color can do a lot of heavy lifting, so i prefer when an artist can compose a scene purely in black and white
At risk of sounding like the very thing this show is trying to mock, I really appreciate the Slave Labor Graphics easter egg at 21:22. I love JTHM. I also saw that the original comic was published by them.
Oh now how dare you notice an easter egg! We must mock you now!
THAT
THAT'S WHAT IT WAS
I SAW THIS ONE TIME - IT WAS THE POTION OF UNFREEZING FROZE SCENE AND I'D NEVER SEEN IT AGAIN
Who would guess that Pete was right, Boba wasn't dead after all
Its a crying shame this show never went any farther
Pov: neckbeards and fedora wearers in the early 2000's.
my boyfriend told me i was like jerry so i watched this out of curiosity and the very first thing i said after watching this was "jerry's just like me fr"
Dark Scott the Woz timeline
Maybe it will be made today hopefully. Knowing how everything nerdy now is popular
Possibly into an indie UA-cam cartoon tho. We've already got a bunch of indie toons. Why not add The Eltingville Club into the mix?
Make this a show that i will tune into. I havent watched AS since you recasted r+m.... Its so bad. This is GREAT!
A shame that this never got a full series with either 2, 3 or 4 seasons on Adult Swim. This show looked really good with a lot of geek culture references.
Bill my man. I don't care if he looks and acts like he was born in hell.
this comment is so real
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BAAASSEEDDD OH MY GOD 😭😭❤️❤️❤️
Fr I love pathetic incel men
These guys fight non stop and they're still friends at the end of the day.
Imagine if this was made in the era of cinematic universes and live action Disney remakes.
This is genuinely hilarious, such a shame that it never became a full animated series.
Ever since this first aired, i still now and again say "suddenly i know what 'pity' is". Really useful line to use XD
This would be great today as a full series but I can easily see it going south
It missed the best time to be published, but it would be unlikely to go south since the comics are completed source material
@@maganashaker167
Considering how much tamer this is compared to the comic, maybe it wouldn’t have followed it to a T. I think the show was going to be more lighthearted and comedic instead of horrific like the comic and the characters would’ve been portrayed as just pathetic losers instead of heartless sociopaths like in the comic.
@thecollector4332
Exactly. This is SIGNIFICANTLY tamer than the comics. The comics have more let's say realistic dialogue and really convey the critique of the toxic side of nerd culture/fandom much better than this which focuses more on just being funny.
Where it would go south today is it would inevitably have some snide subtext about muh white cis men that would ruin the subtlety of the comic.
@@thecollector4332 they probably, probably would have gone the big bang theory route of trying to make them seem misunderstood and reward them instead of showing and threating them like what they actually are: assholes....well except for jerry
I don't know, for the cartoon I could kinda see them "reuniting" well more like the nurses at their senior home, wheeling them to the same table, because they don't wanna deal with them,
It's kinda strange after hearing about Pete's fate in the comic whereas here he's basically an everyman alongside Jerry. Makes me wonder if they were gonna have him slide into being more and more of a pervert over time if this pilot got picked up into a show.
Granted probably not since as far as I'm aware this all came before Dorkin ended the series. Right? I don't actually know.
That would have been cool to watch, a light hearted satire slowly becoming a dark tragedy reflecting the worst aspects of entitlement and nerdom
Like Moral Orel with religios fundamnetalism.
Wish their trivia-off had a question related to Sailor Moon...
They weren't weebs, they were nerds. They didn't even really have access to any of that anime shit either, as shown in the comics.
@@Evnv…But Bill mentions Digimon
@@RubenGuzman69 true
In the comics they made references... (actually they were a combo of a fantasy sequence and women cosplaying as the character)to Sailor Moon
@@RoninRenTrue. In the Eltingville comic, Joe the comic store owner says he doesn't sell any "anime/manga shit" in his shop despite those like Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, and Pokémon were rising animes back in the 90's.
Joe probably could sell that Boba Fett for $1000 easy today. Also, Pete was right about Boba Fett. It does make me wonder what they'd think about Star Wars now.
Before there was the Book of Boba Fett show, there were actual comics that the bounty hunter did got out of the Sarlaac Pit alive years before Disney acquired the SW brand
I think the reason they didn’t accept the pilot is because it might require a lot of liscencing from a ton of IP.
Not necessarily, except Star Wars, but they renamed a lot of IPs in the comic book store. But my guess is back 2002 a lot of people weren’t interested in toxic nerd culture as they are now. Nerds used to be individual we stayed away from, but now it’s become acceptable in modern culture. I should know, I used to get mocked for looking a total dweeb and bragging about beating Zelda on a broken N64 cartridge.
I’m not saying it’s the sole reason but it could be part of the reason but I also know, the animation style used for this show isn’t cheap either because it’s the same animation as Clerk the animated series which was like a million per episode I believe. I know the budget for the animated series was pretty high because it was part of a tax write off (I’m not educated on that) but this is just speculation on my part.
Main reason was likely cost. This pilot cost the aame as an entire season of Sealab or SGC2C.
I need more and I know there’s not gonna be more. I’m gonna actually cry even though it’s really cringe. I love it.
Even though Josh is a teenager, he looks like a middle aged man.
I really like this short It just goes to show how far nerd culture has come in cartoons and reality
happy 1st anniversary of your video ! i hope we have to pray that the Eltingville series might be announced to watch on Netflix :D
I respected the nerd culture , Merry early Christmas to you all !
You so won't believe what I just found out: Corey Brill (Jerry), he and that lady from Duncanville who voices Jing, they're married. I guess that Finally answered my question on what's been going on with him. I grew up with just Tara Sands and Jason Harris' voices ya know...let's just say I was curious plus I wish the VA's for the main guys to play the characters I imagined someday
this show is kinda perfect
I wish this pilot gotta full show there's barley any content and it's my new hyperfixation
True pain, I understand.
LITERALLY SAME OMG ITS TORTURE
Real
I agree
Have you read the comics though?
Wait, they formed a DnD party of only three fighter-type classes? I've never played a TTG in my life and even I know that's a really unbalanced team. No wonder they got slaughtered.
It's actually not super uncommon tbh. I've had plenty of martial-only games, mostly in Pathfinder and 5e.
@@amelialonelyfart8848 I'm going to take your word for it, since like I said, I don't play TTGs myself.
That said, this pilot (and the comic it was based on) is from the 90's/2000 era; I'm sure that would be a lot harder in older editions.
It kind of shows their selfishness and inability to work as a team.
I mean judging by the way they fight with each other over just about anything, it's not surprising all three of them would be in the same class
If this ever got made into an official series they'd need to do an Ep about "franchise fatigue" where movie theaters just seem to be outlets for producing established franchises, reboots of established franchises, and spinoffs of established franchises and they're the only people who're all for this and find it odd how the average consumer doesn't have the time to sit thru all this anymore. Like they're offended that people are now demanding unique original ideas instead of commercialized slop because they've been watching it with rose tinted glasses as obligation for the brand
5:46 That's the hair bear bunch Hanna Barbera cartoon! 11:25 😂