Don't Buy Lindberg N. O. W. Titanium Frames
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2019
- The N.O.W. Titanium collection is characterized by a design flaw that has been ignored by the Lindberg Company eventhough the negative feedback has existed for over 2 years.
The thin composite that makes up the front of the frame is 2 millimeters thick. To understand the defects, one has begin with how the prescription lenses fit into the frame.
The prescription lenses have to be grooved and installed using a cold mount method because if you use heat on the thin composite, it deforms.
When the cold mount method is used it begins to create micro fissures on the material. As time goes on and the eyeglasses are worn, these micro fissures expand and are soon viewed as cracks by the wearer.
The second design flaw is where the titanium temple and the 2 millimeter composite meet at the temporal edge of the front of the frame. Regular wear and tear caused by the natural opening and closing of the temple hinge causes the stress fractures that quickly turn to cracks at this meeting point.
Conclusion:
Yes, they have 4 different nose pads choices,
Yes, they are lightweight,
Yes, the Lindberg Company have designed genius frames,
Yes, Yes, Yes,
Bottom Line:
Do Not Buy the Lindberg N.O.W. Titanium frames.
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I went through three frames because of this issue. First frames had the micro-fissures that were immediately visible upon receipt of the new glasses. I didn't wait long enough for these to crack - I went straight back to my optometrist and they replaced them. Second set actually cracked - took a few months I think but they broke in the upper inside corner of one of the lenses. Third pair has been flawless and I am NOT careful with my glasses. I take them off with one hand, don't keep them in a case etc. etc. No problems at this point. I only found this video because I was searching for the right way to clean them.
Thank you for posting this video. I found it only after placing an order for these frames. I didn't know what to think, as it's such an obscure subject for a video compared to, for example, bashing the latest iPhone. I like them a lot and receive frequent compliments, but it turned out that you're entirely correct.
They must have been fine for a while, but after two years I cleaned them off and took a good look in the light. There were obvious cracks leading away from each of the nosepads, a few other noticeable cracks around the lenses, then faint stress fracturing around much of the frames and toward the temple hinges. I, like most people, spend these two years sedentary, so it's not like they were abused. I am now sending them in under the three year warranty, but I don't have high expectations for when I receive them back. On removing the lenses they did discover there were no grooves cut around the perimeter of them, as you mentioned, so that probably also contributed.
I actually met the Lindberg representative at my doctor's office, and she explained that this is ordinary wear for the material, alike wearing denim, and that it doesn't pose any durability concerns. I found the same stress fracturing in the corner of one of the demo pairs there. I don't know how they justify selling clear frames that can't perfectly stay that way over such a relatively short period of time. A pair of wholly titanium frames will last a lifetime, as could many standard plastics.
I been wearing the model 6528 for 2 years. I have been pretty rough for eyewear standards with them and still works amazing.
Hi, thank you for sharing the great experience you have had with these frames. Keep us updated.
I hope you have a great day!
Same here. For 3 years.
I've had a NOW frame for 3 years and I'm on my second one. On the 1st, I had the lenses replaced, and whoever did the work did not mount them correctly - one was crooked and left a deep groove in the acetate at the bottom rim trying to press it in, and in the struggle he/she also pushed the temple and left another groove where the temple meets the acetate (the 2nd design flaw that's mentioned). There were no cracks from what I could see, but it never felt right no matter how much the optician adjusted it. I ended up getting it replaced under warranty. I've been hesitant to replace the lenses in my current pair for fear of going through a similar hassle (plus I'm out of warranty). I'm 2 years in on my 2nd pair and so far no cracks, but I do see wear marks from the temple touching the acetate at the hinge. Overall I've loved these glasses as they're super light weight and haven't had any other issues. I'll likely not get another NOW frame as this video reinforces what I've experienced, but definitely will get another pair of Lindbergs from a different collection.
Thanks for the video.
Great video informing future customers of these defects. Aesthetically I love N.O.W since the composite front accommodates thick lenses well while stays feather light. But these defects do exist. Today my wife's frame broke part at the middle of the bridge after three years, and mine have been seeing minor cracks at one of the hinges.
I have them since 3 years and I use them everyday, for me they are the BEST glasses I ever own. Never had any issue with the quality.
This model that he mention? the N. O. W. Titanium Frames?
@@ragon747 I am a dispensing technician myself, and I own a pair of Lindbergs, and I have recently ordered another pair; the N.O.W. series. I've had experience edging and fitting lots of Lindbergs; the NOW series, Spirit, Strip, Buffalo Horn, Precious, etc, and the bottom line is, it all comes down to the way the lenses get edged. The lenses really need to be edged to meticulous precision, and unfortunately a lot of lens labs who need to pump through hundreds of jobs a day, dont have time for that effort. If you purchase a pair of Lindberg from an optometrist who has their own lens edging equipment in store, and a dispensing technician who has had proper training in fitting lenses into these, there will not be issues. I spend the time resizing the lenses in 0.05mm increments until I have cut the lenses the correct size, measured with an electronic caliper, take in many consideration such as patient's prescription, lens thickness, groove placement, etc, and I dont have issues with the frames. The N.O.W. material is a relatively flexible material, but admittedly, quite weak to expansion force, so correct lens sizing is essential. Most NOW frames that have stress fractures are either due to customer's mishandling of the frame, or the lenses being cut too large (yes, 0.1mm too large will be a problem), and Lindberg does provide specific instructions on lens fitting procedures, and if not followed, unfortunately that does become the fault of the lab, or the shop, because hey, the lenses weren't cut according to Lindberg's recommendations.
Thank you for your feedback. I intend to buy some Lindberg NOW because I really like the model. So, this kind of clarification is very important for me.
@@salvare938 not only the cracking, but where the arm hits the frame when you open up the arm, that part of the frame starts wearing down and you see a groove on it now
@@caes44444 possibly, I have definitely seen such instances with customers that are a little more rough with their glasses, or people who have chosen NOW series frames that are a bit narrow for their face, and more common with the 802 temple design. My personal pair has yet to encounter any issues, and I guess if we start nit-picking, I can go on forever about all the other brands too! NOW series is great provided decent care is taken from the lens fitting process up til customer handling, but otherwise theyre prone to be headaches.
I 100% agree :
First time I noticed the fracture lines on the inside of the frame, I recognized the pattern to be stress fractures (I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering). They replaced it
Second time: it came back and they said it's my fault
third time where the titanium meets the composite cracked and disconnected. They replaced. Only reason I bought because I thought they will last for years
Is it possible to convert now frames to framless?
Hi was thinking was getting the NOW tiatanium glasses. After looking at this video, really thinking twice. Any advice on maintenance?
Is it possible to get the arm changed to a different style at any opticians? Thanks!!
i have a pair and noticed fairly quickly the composite frame wears/deforms where the titanium hinge meets it. after a few years i see a crack through the frame now :(
I bought my Lindberg n.o.w. 6541 on October 2018, and now May 2021 the frame cracked in the front without me putting in pressure in the glasses or doing something wrong. Of course it is our of warranty so my store can't do something, and I'm in contact with Lindberg to ask for a replacement.
Totally agree! I’m on my second pair of NOW and it’s days away I think from a stress break. Shame as they are so light and comfortable! How would you rate ic Berlin in comparison? They’re twice as heavy for starters …
Hello, thank you for such very interesting and useful information , do you know any problems with Rim Lex
Transparent range as I have planned on ordering a pair .
Thank you.
The Lindberg Rims have been great for 25 years!
I am about to get a second pair of Lindberg N.O.W frame but hesitant. My first is custom made . I have had it for about 3 months and worn it only several times. Yesterday, I noticed there were fine brownish spots on the side of 802 temple arms. They look like rust. My guess is the arms are not fully titanium. My Silhuoette SPX has not shown any apparent sign of wear. I have had it for nearly 4 years now and worn many times more.
I Have one for three and half years. the frame was broken at the joint where the nose holder meeting the frame. of course it is out of warranty and no optical shop is willing to fix it
Hi, I have talked with my optic centre here in Aarhus, Denmark. What I have been told is basically:
- Regarding the first issue: This should be absolutely obvious to all the opticians selling those frames. Lindberg is clrearly sending instruction of how to mount glasses to those frames. If an optician used heat for such frames it means that he or she did not do the basic thing before starting to work with any frame from any company - research how to work with them;
- Regarding cracking issues: Lindberg did acknowledge the problem. They changed the composition of the frames a few years ago, so the material is more resistant towards any cracks when taken care of the frames (or handled) properly;
I spoke about those problems also with my optician who took care of my glasses before and who said that the first issue more represents the professionalism of the optician. There is no way he would ever try to use heat towards the "slim" category of the frames.
Cheers.
EDIT: I did some edits to the style of the comment (mainly typos).
Thank you for sharing your experience. The audience appreciates your input.
I don't think I had these issues with my frames. But after a while the arms got loose and it's been ridiculously difficult to find someone who knows how to tighten them. The shop I bought from (in France) actually offered to ship my glasses to Switzerland to do it. But this would take too long.
Any advice?
You can try shipping the glasses to Switzerland to fix them
Please make a review about marchon airlock 2001 216. Thank you
We had exactly the same bad experience. I can't believe it still exists!!!
I just bought 9703, are they NOW ?
Howdy, could you suggest any Danish or other frame manufacturers with similar design style to Lindberg?
The design of using plastic as the part of the frame where the orbital resides is a bad idea.
Bad ideas are the cause of the inferior design.
Buy frames that either done have a frame around the lens or a frame that uses acetate, or metal.
There are plenty to pick from even within the Lindberg brand.
Thank you so much for this review! I fell in love with their glasses when I had my yearly eye exam today. I didn't buy them, and now I am glad I didn't. I hope to find similar frames like these, but will last years, not just 3 years as you mentioned. If you have any suggestions for a better frame that are light with translucent colored frames, please let me know!
Other series of Lindberg is still a very good option for you, strip titanium, rim series, are are very durable as long as you don’t throw them around in the house😅
Hi I would like to buy n.o.w Lindberg 6517 model, and my prescription is -3.50 with 0.50 astigmatism, optician suggested that going beyond 1.60 would be risky and lens may be broken. Do you think buying 1.60 index is good enough for this frame? Or I should not buy them and go on with a model where I can choose 1.74 index?
To my mind, you should go on with a model suitable to 1.74 or 1.67
Planning to buy the ace titanium collection is it ok?
Thanks for this video. Unfortunately, I found it while waiting for my 6612's to arrive from Denmark at my local optician in California, so now I'm a little bit nervous. I bought them in the matte brown color, so hopefully any cracks won't be so obvious.
This will be my third pair of Lindbergs, the first two were the 1020 model, and just like the 6612. But the 1020's hinge connections to the frame were always problematic. Great idea conceptually but suboptimal in real life.
I get the sense that Lindberg glasses are designed for people who have 6-8 sets of glasses, and are engineered accordingly. Phenomenal aesthetics and nice flash, but lousy durability for normal people life, like a Bentley or Louis Vuitton. That said, I work in professional services, and even (especially) for a guy in his 50's, youthful aesthetics matter, and I get compliments on my 1020's all the time.
Thanks for posting this video - you got a subscribe and a thumbs-up from me.
Bro can buy lindberg air titanium rim morten. Thanks
My dealer also told me not to buy the NOW collection they even took them off the shelf, so I bought a RIM. But as an Asian, although the frame looks delicate and weighs very little, the overall comfort isn't much higher than my regular frame, maybe the nose pads are a little bit short and the tilt angle of the lense is too large😟
I hope they add Asia options to all their frames which have longer nose pads and smaller tilt angle of lenses for better Asian fit
Hi, and Thank you for sharing.
The same issue I have with the RIM!!
what about the thintanium?
After owning a pair of these for just under 2 years, I'm afraid I agree with this video 100%. One of the arm hinges on mine has just broken. No repair possible according to the optician, who pointed to precisely the flaws raised in this video. It's a great shame, because I love the look of the glasses and have worn Lindberg for over a decade. But there is definitely a design issue as this video outlines.
100% agreed. I have a pair of NOW that i really liked, but within 6month i found a crack at the edge, i.e. the second issue you mentioned. what a shame
I took a chance with these frames, and I can see why they would very easily crack. I am having an issue with the frames constantly sliding down my nose. I would love to get your advice on how to fix this.
Hi, thank you for joining us.
When the glasses are sliding down your nose, the end of the temple pieces that wrap around your ear must be adjusted.
Please take them to the opticians near you and and have them curvy just a little sooner little by little until you're able to shake your head and they do not slip.
Please let me know how this works, and I can walk you through further adjustments.
@@eyewearrepublic9820 Thanks! I really appreciate it. Do the ends of the temples just need to be curved more, or do they also have to be angled inwards as well?
@@jonlock5705 shape them to the shape of the back of the head. I don't let the end pieces touch the ears. You are correct, bend them slightly inwards, as well.
@@eyewearrepublic9820 Thanks again!
This is why i stopped wearing rimless, way Too fragile, i do running and rimless would easily fall off and break
Thanks for this video, finally someone who confirms what I thought, the same thing happened to me with three frames, I also wrote to the company who gave me totally unconvincing answers, I would have expected a free exchange and instead I was very disappointed , I will no longer buy Lindberg frames, for such high prices they are not worth it. I hope that other frames from this company do not have the same defects.
Hi, I wish to buy Lindberg spirit rimless but they feel as if they’re going to break in my hand or if I exert little pressure. I’ve read many bad reviews saying it’s VERY fragile and breaks rather quickly. What do you think? Is there any other brands with an identical design to the spirits but more durable? Thanks, your comments will be appreciated!
Lindberg Spirit is ok.
Be careful, but it's ok to buy
Eyewear Republic thank you for your quick reply. I’m an amateur in eyewear since it’s going to be my first time purchasing glasses so is there any other reputable brands with ultra thin frames which are durable?
@@AEssak96 too many out there.
Eyewear Republic I understand my question is broad. I heard Kazuo Kawasaki MP634 is good but could you name a few brands which you’ve had experience with? Once again, I appreciate you taking your time out to help me!
@@AEssak96 No to kawasaki.
I have had lindberg including NOW for decades. The only one that I had to replace was the one I stepped on and crushed it.
I don’t know if mine were a NOW frame or not but they cracked after a few years of wear. I took very good care of them and was disappointed. So expensive and the frame just broke one day while I was just sitting watching TV. Shame on Lindberg.
How about spirit titanium ? Thank u
Lindberg Spirit and Lindberg Rims are great. These are not
I like the glasses you wear right now. Which glasses are that?
Matsuda
thx for advise us！
Thank you for your video ! It's really helped that I was considering what should I have to choose. But can I ask kinda bit more simply why we can't(don't need to) buy N.O.W. frames please? I'm Korean who is leaning English these days. It's kinda hard to understand so😂😂 thank you anyway from South Korea! 😀
Because these frames are defective
간단히 말하면 테에 렌즈를 끼려면 (제조사의 지시서대로) 열을 가하지 않고 그냥 테에 일반뿔테처럼 힘으로 밀어넣어야 하는데, 그 때 미세한 실금이 생기고 사용하면서 그 실금이 커져서 결국 테 자체가 깨지는걸 막을 수 없으니 자기가 보기에는 애초에 설계부터 결함이 있는 안경이라는 내용입니다. 나우테 자체가 렌즈를 정확하게 세공하는 것 부터가 까다롭고 취급하기도 까다롭다보니 ㅅ ㅓ 양넘드른 그른 손ㅉㅐ주가 읍써서 째대로 시공을 모태서 버러지능 일잉데 그거능 스리슬쩍 빼노코 그냥 우기능 내용이네용 무시하시공 써울에 링드버그 전문적으로 ㄷㅏ루는 곳 가서 만드시면 문제가 즌혀 읎어버리지라. 이 계정주인이 답변해둔게 너무 거만하고 성의없고 꼴보기싫어서 해석해드렸어요. 참고로 린드버그 자체가 렌즈가공이 까다로운 테들만 내지만 그 중에서도 나우는 난이도가 정말 높고, 다른 린드버그 안경들보다 내구성이 좀 더 약하긴 해요. 대신 그만큼 가볍고 말랑말랑하고 편안하기도 합니다. 미국에도 오래 살아봤지만 한쿡안켱사들 손째주는 코쟁이들이랑은 기냥 레베루가 달라부립니다. 저 코쟁이의 의견은 귀신의 씨나락을 까먹는 소리라고 생각하시면 됩니다.
@@SuperJwk thank you joining the discussion. I don't understand other languages, but I still want to thank you for taking the time to write a comment.
@@SuperJwk 하하하 역시 뒈환뮌꾸욱 솰람들만 이해 할 수 있는 뿌뿐쩎 뮨쫭들이 윘뉸 쓰엔쓔에 감탄하고갑니다 ㅎㅎ
@@SuperJwk 모쪼록 많은 도움이 되었습니다 대단히 감사합니다
thank you for your honest advice.
how about air titanium rim?
@stayangrystayfoolish The Lindberg Rim Collection is great. The collection has been well designed for two decades. People have run them over with cars (accidentally), and most times they turn out fine.
They are much stronger than they look.
Thank you for asking about the Lindberg Rims. You're the first one that has asked.
I would like to also add (about the Lindberg Rim collection) that they are also fairly priced. They are pricey, but they are worth the money. When buying Lindberg Rims, ask for extra nose pads and extra silicone temple covers because you will go through many of those. The opticals get them for free, so don't be shy. Ask for extras.
@Eyewear Republic wow thank you.
may I ask one more question?
Do hinges in rim collection become loose over time?
The hinges are not a problem in the rimmed collection. Over time they'll need the temples to be adjusted and please take care of the bridge. The bridge area where the bottom part of the frame goes over the bridge to create the nose pad area is where I have seen most breakages. It is not a defect, just wear-and-tear.
Hi I would like to buy n.o.w 6517 model glasses and I have -3.50 with 0.50 astigmatism, my optician said any index higher than 1.60 would be risky and may break easily. Do you guys think it is ok to buy 1.60 index zeiss? would it be unaesthetic because of high thickness for these frames?
They crack been there done that.
Interesting. Just got my pair and I have to say I absolutely love them like no other. I will see how they go. Personally not too concerned about a little scratch or crack if I cannot see it in my peripheral, I feel this video is way too aggressive towards not buying them. I'll return though in a few months and let you know my feedback as it's been almost 3 years since this vid.
its been about 10 months how has your experience been with them?
@@The_kRazed My favourite pair. It’s funny you comment now as I rolled over them in bed only 2 weeks ago and bent the side, however I’m due a new prescription and I will simply be repairing the same pair. The frame itself is still in great condition. Currently wearing the tom ford private edition which are 2.5X the price, but i would take Lindberg over these any day
In 30 anni che porto occhiali Lindberg in titanio e non ho mai riscontrato i difetti descritti nel video. Il primo occhiale Lindberg in titanio l'ho acquistato circa 30 anni fa, dopo ho cambiato montatura sempre Lindberg in titanio e lenti e ora lo sto portando senza che sia mai accaduto nulla di spiacevole, posso garantire che lenti e occhiali hanno una incredibile resistenza.
i problemi pare si presentino sulla montatura dei modelli descritti, che non è in titanio
U R. Talking about the ,ore recent Ones with a 3 year warante
The glasses are very comfortable and stylish but the durability is simply not there. I have owned two pairs of Lindbergs and each broke at the bridge after 3 years. For such expensive frames, this is simply not acceptable. The titanium arms are strong, but the composite material holding the lens is highly susceptible to breakage, especially where the frame has been drilled for the nose or arm housing.
Sounds as though you are misinformed.. if the lenses are cut by the specifications Lindberg provides, the durability issues you mentioned cease to exist. To tell people, explicitly, “DO NOT BUY THE LINDBERG NOW TITANIUM FRAMES” is robbing people of the opportunity to buy the frames they really want because of issues that really lie in the hands of your optometrist and their expertise. I’m glad I didn’t see this video before buying mine, I’m very happy with them.
i strongly disagree, even though we had some breakage in this series it has been replaced by lindberg and for the volume we have sold the ones we got back where only around 8%.
Most of the problems occur with the way you mount the glasses, inexpert mounting is mostly the cause of breakage, also methylated alcohol is never to be used on the frames, although i agree it is not the strongest one in the lindberg line i think it is still a good frame and worthy of the lindberg name
Thank you for your opinion and for participating in this discussion. It is always important to hear from all sides and points of view. I hope you have a great Thursday and a great rest of the week.
agree!
GFO
Lindberg are absolute junk. I am now on my fourth pair because the first three failed in various ways. Overpriced and underperform.
Lmao this video is so uneducated. Lindbergs are AWESOME as long as you use an optical with skilled opticians and lab techs.
Agreed! I have had my Lindberg NOW glasses for 5 years. Just bought another pair.
Also had my lenses changed three time within the 5 years.