This was the beginning of (IMO) the four greatest years in Crossmen history. They had some fabulous years. But this was a solid four+ years. That staff that created that show. Ruocco, Delucia, Krempanski, Thurston, Kitcherman... man I wish I could remember who did the guard work. One of the all-time great DCI staffs. Jack Meehan creating that great Crossmen brass sound in 1990 and 1991, putting them on the map. One of those great moments in the activity.
Chohesive writing, drill and POWER. This is what is missing in DCI now, in the guise of chasing scores. I know the kids are crazy talented today but it doesn't mean play a million notes just for the sake of placement. I'd rather watch this show than most all of the modern shows of today. This is way more entertaining and digestible.
You get slaughtered for saying this on current forums. "They play songs now" but as you say, it's not cohesive. It's also not clear on first read what they're doing. It's just "wow that was great but I don't remember a thing".
holy shit i haven't listened to this show in a few years and just remembered how many times i used to listen to (and rewind) that intro, especially the portion 35 seconds in. one of my favorite shows to listen to on tour in the mid-2000s w/memphis sound, magic, & the bluecoats. i want to sample that (and maybe other parts too) and turn it into a beat someday.
Actually, I believe that during this time period, they were actually using Bb concert tubas that were modified (blocked out third valve, marching leadpipe and extra tubing in the slides to bring them down to G) hence the "horizontal" pistons and odd grip on the horn. I'm not real sure why they did this rather than use stock G contras though.
Yeh, I was on tour with Spirit Of Atlanta that year (as a guest/helper) and we shared a school with Crossmen about 2 weeks before finals, I'm pretty sure it was Hornell, New York (It pisssed down with rain on that show and Crossmen actually won it, beating the Madison Scouts on that night. The Crossmen performed a repeat performance in a static set up in there civvies(no uniforms, just normal clothing)). Me and my mates noticed the contras and got talking to some of the players, who let us know the details. There was a mixture of instruments there. Some were 2-valve G, DEG or Dynasty I guess, but some were converted Yamaha Bb 3-Valve tubas, with, as you rightly said the 3rd valve removed/blocked off and I guess some sort of tuning slide modification to make them into G's, the valves were still in the Tuba orientation (front facing, when used as a Contra) which you can see on the video. If you watch the video closely you can see the two different types of Contra/Tuba. Jeez, my memory is just full of useless information, 31 years on and I still remember that stuff!
That's because it was in those times that rotaries were still used and the G horns were still around. Most corps couldn't afford all three valve horns and there were few companies around that supplied them. I belonged to a division 3 corps during that time and we still used rotaries for that reason. But, two years later we had mostly 3 valve G horns.
It was probably before you were born, too. You have no clue and this was a G bugle horn, making it sound different. It WAS a clean solo. I know because I played solo in my drum corps in that year with the same horn.
I got to play this in person at a crossmen camp and it was breathtaking
This was the beginning of (IMO) the four greatest years in Crossmen history. They had some fabulous years. But this was a solid four+ years. That staff that created that show. Ruocco, Delucia, Krempanski, Thurston, Kitcherman... man I wish I could remember who did the guard work. One of the all-time great DCI staffs. Jack Meehan creating that great Crossmen brass sound in 1990 and 1991, putting them on the map. One of those great moments in the activity.
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1990s Crossmen was 🔥! I loved their shows so, so much. (I'm still grooving to 1992's The Rainforest. 😁)
The Spirit of Santa fe springs, '96 ❤❤❤❤
If it ain't "baroque" then don't fix it! (sorry -couldn't resist)
Chohesive writing, drill and POWER. This is what is missing in DCI now, in the guise of chasing scores. I know the kids are crazy talented today but it doesn't mean play a million notes just for the sake of placement. I'd rather watch this show than most all of the modern shows of today. This is way more entertaining and digestible.
I certainly agree. These were the times I marched drum corps. 1990-1994.
show's today are a massive sensory overload. They really do need to dial it back
@@veot.2869 90-94 was drum corp at its peak
You get slaughtered for saying this on current forums. "They play songs now" but as you say, it's not cohesive. It's also not clear on first read what they're doing. It's just "wow that was great but I don't remember a thing".
Jazz and Latin flavors like Samba, Rhumba and Tango have all but left the stage. Nothing like this.
holy shit i haven't listened to this show in a few years and just remembered how many times i used to listen to (and rewind) that intro, especially the portion 35 seconds in. one of my favorite shows to listen to on tour in the mid-2000s w/memphis sound, magic, & the bluecoats. i want to sample that (and maybe other parts too) and turn it into a beat someday.
ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE GUARD UNIFORMS
AN UNBELIEVABLE CLASSIC!!!!!
this is cool
One of the best soprano solo's of all time!!
Naw. I wouldn't go that far. There plenty in the 70s, 80s, and 90s that would beat that one. But, it is a nice one, though.
Definitely not. Good one though
Bloody hell.. I just noticed those contras are actual antiques! Amazing sound though
Actually, I believe that during this time period, they were actually using Bb concert tubas that were modified (blocked out third valve, marching leadpipe and extra tubing in the slides to bring them down to G) hence the "horizontal" pistons and odd grip on the horn. I'm not real sure why they did this rather than use stock G contras though.
Yeh, I was on tour with Spirit Of Atlanta that year (as a guest/helper) and we shared a school with Crossmen about 2 weeks before finals, I'm pretty sure it was Hornell, New York (It pisssed down with rain on that show and Crossmen actually won it, beating the Madison Scouts on that night. The Crossmen performed a repeat performance in a static set up in there civvies(no uniforms, just normal clothing)). Me and my mates noticed the contras and got talking to some of the players, who let us know the details. There was a mixture of instruments there. Some were 2-valve G, DEG or Dynasty I guess, but some were converted Yamaha Bb 3-Valve tubas, with, as you rightly said the 3rd valve removed/blocked off and I guess some sort of tuning slide modification to make them into G's, the valves were still in the Tuba orientation (front facing, when used as a Contra) which you can see on the video. If you watch the video closely you can see the two different types of Contra/Tuba. Jeez, my memory is just full of useless information, 31 years on and I still remember that stuff!
Cainan High Brass right?
@@chimparse yes
@@definitelynotcainan3353 Cool. Thought so, hows it going pal?
That is a *nice* solo! 😁 👍
Wish they had whole show , Moondance was great!! DCI doesn't have to many archives anymore
ua-cam.com/video/EwMVkyjFBIE/v-deo.html
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE POST THIS WHOLE SHOW, SOMEONE :)
I just want to see "Now or Never" one mo 'gain.....so bad-ass.
i have the audio file if you need, i know it's not the same though
ua-cam.com/video/EwMVkyjFBIE/v-deo.html
Nice!
Would love to see the full 1990 if anyone has it to post.
i have the audio file if youre in need
ua-cam.com/video/EwMVkyjFBIE/v-deo.html
Classic bones!
The soprano solo sounds very, very "bugly" - almost like the valve-rotor bugles of the early 1970s.
That's because it was in those times that rotaries were still used and the G horns were still around. Most corps couldn't afford all three valve horns and there were few companies around that supplied them. I belonged to a division 3 corps during that time and we still used rotaries for that reason. But, two years later we had mostly 3 valve G horns.
Great!
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Bill Kellerman!!
That Solo was Dirty
It was probably before you were born, too. You have no clue and this was a G bugle horn, making it sound different. It WAS a clean solo. I know because I played solo in my drum corps in that year with the same horn.