Genesis 4: The Fall Continues

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    Sources:
    Gerhard Johannes Botterweck - Theological Dictionary of the Old Testament
    Kenneth A. Matthew - The New American Commentary: Genesis 1:1 - Genesis 11:26
    John Walton - The NIV Application Commentary
    Gerhard Von Rad - Genesis
    Andreas J. Köstenberger and David W. Jones - God, Marriage, and Family

КОМЕНТАРІ • 464

  • @pghchaos
    @pghchaos 4 роки тому +178

    This is such a improved way of looking at scripture. I was taught too many times in a young age that the reason Cain was rejected was because he brought fruits and vegetables and not a lamb. American churches in teachings really seem to focus weigh too much on the literal words instead of finding the proper context.

    • @vaskaventi6840
      @vaskaventi6840 3 роки тому +15

      @@anahata3478 I mentally facepalmed just reading that, way too many people use that kind of logic.

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 3 роки тому +21

      True. God rejected Cain due to his arrogant attitude & lack of obedience in giving God the best (firstfruits) of his income/harvest... God only asks for a small fraction but He wants to know that He is First in your life... Thank You Lord for Your Revelation... I try to teach my kids this but they ask why should we tithe when churches or ministries won't help us. I told them God has a way of blessing us when we act in obedience in ways we sometimes can't tangibly understand...

    • @anonymous_man7
      @anonymous_man7 3 роки тому +7

      @@jamellfoster6029 just remember the old Testament tithe was for the leviticus priest and the temple service. Under the new covenant God loves a cheerful giver. Just be sure to provide for your family first my brother

    • @jamellfoster6029
      @jamellfoster6029 3 роки тому +5

      @@anonymous_man7 I'm a lady. And I give God my First Fruits & care for my immediate family. Other relatives (lazy adults who won't work) have to support themselves (I have a few loser siblings 30+ who won't work. I'm not doing a thing for them)....

    • @anonymous_man7
      @anonymous_man7 3 роки тому +1

      @@jamellfoster6029 i mean wisdom should be used in any situation but if you feel that they don't deserve any support then you might be right

  • @Ingridskates
    @Ingridskates 5 років тому +172

    I'm obsessed with this series of videos! Keep them coming! I'm binge-listening.

    • @moodyriver6673
      @moodyriver6673 4 роки тому +1

      Ingrid EyebrowLady Same here I’ve just stumbled across them 👍

  • @sjappiyah4071
    @sjappiyah4071 5 років тому +34

    I always believed the Stories in Genesis opposed favouritism towards the firstborn as well, but the way you tied it to Israel being God’s first born people and how God shows impartiality to them as well was mind blowing!
    Thanks again for sharing your insights with us, Can’t wait for the next episode!

  • @RagingBlast2Fan
    @RagingBlast2Fan 5 років тому +56

    This video is really crucial to the proper understanding of the fall of man. Most people think that man fell at one point in the garden of Eden. The reality is that the fall was a gradual process, by which people continued to fall further and further away from God's presence. We consistently chose disobedience over God's way. We fell from depravity to depravity until we could fall no more, and we became ripe for judgement. People were all unrighteous in those times, but they only continued to become more unrighteous. That is what starts in genesis 3 but doesn't end there. This is not to understate the act of man's primal act of disobedience to God in the garden, as that is what allowed and initiated the degradation of man, such that by Genesis 6:3 people had fallen even further than Adam and Eve's condition in the post fall world.

    • @eatfrenchtoast
      @eatfrenchtoast 4 роки тому

      Let's just remember this is all fictional fables. To take it literally is to misunderstand the story.

    • @a.t.6322
      @a.t.6322 4 роки тому +5

      @@eatfrenchtoast Well not all fables, the talking serpent certainly. Fables are moral stories with animals as characters. Many of the biblical stories are oral histories dressed in metaphors.

    • @eatfrenchtoast
      @eatfrenchtoast 4 роки тому

      @@a.t.6322 I agree. I think those writers wanted to teach a moral and make a symbolic reference and use an archetype and when possible make it prophetic. It's like how da Vinci has hidden paintings within paintings. The style of writing was deep back then. Especially after monks refine it for hundreds of years. It's very artistic.

  • @elijahgold9806
    @elijahgold9806 5 років тому +35

    This is quickly becoming my favorite UA-cam channel!

  • @Aaronbridges22
    @Aaronbridges22 5 років тому +61

    Hey guys! This guy has a patreon. It's a solid investment for those talents our master gave us!

  • @ActuarialNinja
    @ActuarialNinja 5 років тому +17

    The quality of these vids is becoming ridiculously good :)

  • @selectiveroots
    @selectiveroots 2 роки тому +11

    i still love this series. you also have a very listenable voice and your insight is note-worthy

  • @gibrantrejo9193
    @gibrantrejo9193 2 роки тому +17

    This content is pure gold. May God bless you even more with wisdom. I have been very blessed by your work. Thank you!

  • @paszmung
    @paszmung 4 роки тому +11

    I wish this series continues not only to Genesis; but to the other books also....
    Salute your hardworks and patients. Eagerly waiting for the next one...

  • @nilanthisaroja861
    @nilanthisaroja861 3 роки тому +4

    Never stop this channel

  • @anthonyschuh2775
    @anthonyschuh2775 5 років тому +19

    Keep fighting the good fight, IP

  • @wjckc79
    @wjckc79 5 років тому +26

    Your insights are as valuable as they are humbling.

  • @americanlostinvietnam3721
    @americanlostinvietnam3721 2 роки тому +3

    The editing on your stuff is good. You also have a good natural narrative voice for this.

  • @Dennis1
    @Dennis1 5 років тому +9

    Thanks for sending this video, Michael.

  • @adamjoskowicz9895
    @adamjoskowicz9895 5 років тому +4

    I am so grateful for this video series. Mind blowing and NECESSARY for ALL Christians to see. Thank you for your contribution to the Kingdom!!!!

  • @Heytheremrsky
    @Heytheremrsky 5 років тому +5

    Great job with this series so far! I just discovered you the other day while watching similar videos on the history of Genesis. While most videos on this subject are subjective and contain varying degrees of shared information with some new knowledge, your presentation is wondrously watchable in comparison. And when the presenter is clear about how the information is applicable to their worldview and beliefs like yourself, it adds sincerity and strength to your videos. Thank you for not trying to present a wishy washy or completely unbiased narrative like many do to broaden their audience. It always comes across as a PowerPoint of regurgitated facts which lack humanity. Looking forward to the next one!

  • @ActuarialNinja
    @ActuarialNinja 5 років тому +4

    Please keep doing what you are doing! I've been following your vids for years, and they help strengthen my faith, and I'm definitely not alone thinking this.

  • @dennisalwine4519
    @dennisalwine4519 5 років тому +14

    Speaking of scholars, Michael Heiser explains how Second Temple Jewish teaching was that the Fall came in three events, not just one: The rebellion of Adam, the sin of the Watchers (Gen 6:4-6), and the disaster at the Tower of Babel (the Gateway to God).

    • @chkn-littlerebuking7168
      @chkn-littlerebuking7168 4 роки тому

      False teaching. There is no way to link Jude or Peter to the Genesis flood except out of rebellion being punished. Also it states in Genesis 6 what and who the rebellion is accounted to. Strive with man. Man, men or mankind mentioned numerous times in Genesis 6.

    • @dennisalwine4519
      @dennisalwine4519 4 роки тому

      @@chkn-littlerebuking7168 question-begging.

    • @chkn-littlerebuking7168
      @chkn-littlerebuking7168 4 роки тому

      @@dennisalwine4519 I am sorry I didn't see any ? in my statement.

    • @teresachase354
      @teresachase354 4 роки тому

      @@chkn-littlerebuking7168 why dont you just let ppl learn at their on pace?GOD knows how 2 do his job. N ifalse teaching. Y are u here

    • @chkn-littlerebuking7168
      @chkn-littlerebuking7168 4 роки тому

      @@teresachase354 Maybe I used the same excuse to voice my opinion as you did? 😱😒

  • @AlexanderosD
    @AlexanderosD 5 років тому +6

    Wow!
    This is a fantastic series friend.
    You honestly took me by surprise with that connection of Jesus referencing Lamek with "seventy times seven"!
    I'm currently about to undertake a New-Old Testament reference study and this one is going in there!
    I'll be praying for your work here with these videos.

  • @carbon273
    @carbon273 4 роки тому +7

    There’s correlations you’re bringing up that I’ve never thought of.🤯

  • @Harrytritt1
    @Harrytritt1 5 років тому +1

    Flooding Shepherd great job brother I cannot believe how well you communicate this is a 62 year old man that's been reading the Bible for over 30 years thank you brother

  • @xxxmmm3812
    @xxxmmm3812 5 років тому +3

    I know I said this many times but thank you for putting so much effort into your channel, there hasn't been a video of yours that I hadn't liked!

  • @NormanCalderon
    @NormanCalderon 3 роки тому +3

    Great work, really appreciate how you not only in a plain theological manner explain it, but with the true purpose of the Word. In this video the most important to observe abd understand is our hearts and the desires and manners of the heart above anything else. Excellent!

  • @VierthalerStudios
    @VierthalerStudios 5 років тому +21

    I never clicked on a video so fast in my life!

  • @brucehaggerty6298
    @brucehaggerty6298 5 років тому +4

    Keep it up!!! May God bless you and your work for his glory!!

  • @lolomimi4410
    @lolomimi4410 5 років тому +2

    Amazing page, only just found it yesterday guided by the Holy Spirit here. Thank you God for these people who made these videos. I pray you continue to bless them. Great page by the way. I'm hooked

  • @whoislikegod3812
    @whoislikegod3812 Рік тому +2

    This series is great. Awesome how you bring in the ancient culture

  • @user-mq3vy6ov8e
    @user-mq3vy6ov8e 2 роки тому +1

    I love your teachings.

  • @mandolinJo
    @mandolinJo 4 роки тому +1

    Your teaching is excellent >>and needed >>>GODs Peace be with You and the brethren >>

  • @manuelmatias2983
    @manuelmatias2983 Рік тому

    Very good. Informative and useful for edification of the Church. Thank you IP.

  • @samucancld
    @samucancld 19 днів тому

    This is amazing. Many thanks, GBY.

  • @poseyperspective3591
    @poseyperspective3591 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for doing these!

  • @Nexus-ub4hs
    @Nexus-ub4hs 5 років тому +2

    Excellent, good teaching. God bless

  • @malvokaquila6768
    @malvokaquila6768 5 років тому +1

    Great video. I really appreciate your channel.

  • @annoyingdude76
    @annoyingdude76 5 років тому +9

    these videos have contributed more to Christianity than 99% of today's preachers

  • @gleasonparker1684
    @gleasonparker1684 5 років тому +2

    This is a good context specially in the lead-up to Genesis 6. Well done.

  • @AidanAshby
    @AidanAshby 5 років тому +6

    Are you planning to go through the whole bible one chapter at a time? Lol
    I've appreciated your videos for years, by the way. Find we're on the same page in many areas but you always give me something new to chew on.

    • @zhihanlim3500
      @zhihanlim3500 5 років тому +1

      No I think the series is only from Gen 1 to 11 priemieval history

  • @buckroger6456
    @buckroger6456 4 роки тому

    Just found this channel and wanted to say I'm loving your work. The way you break everything down is just so amazing. Keep up the great work 👍

  • @patricmichael7522
    @patricmichael7522 5 років тому +1

    Thank you for the quick commentary on polygamy. I had that come up as an issue in a debate and I told them I would have to look into it more. Now I know where to look for more answers. Thank you, man!

  • @shirleynartey6519
    @shirleynartey6519 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this video

  • @terrencejones5748
    @terrencejones5748 5 років тому +4

    This was awesome Good Job.

  • @leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498
    @leonarduskarolusiuliustant7498 5 років тому +3

    Do you plan to make a video on the Five Ways of Saint Thomas Aquinas? I find them some of the best arguments for the existence of God (and, if further developed, specifically of the Christian God ).

  • @gleasonparker1684
    @gleasonparker1684 5 років тому

    Visuals are what make this channel worthwhile and easy to follow. When we can see things and hear things at the same time about the same things is much easier to understand especially when it comes to deeper things in the Bible. I saw a discussion by John Walton and I read his books but when he does a talk with no visuals it is just not worthwhile or beneficial.

  • @mera3666
    @mera3666 5 років тому +8

    alright! i have a test tomorrow .....but studying can defenitly wait!

    • @MrChaosAdam
      @MrChaosAdam 5 років тому

      It's saturday tomorrow...

    • @mera3666
      @mera3666 5 років тому

      @@MrChaosAdam so?....

    • @MrChaosAdam
      @MrChaosAdam 5 років тому

      @@mera3666 So you are not writing a test on the weekend?

    • @mera3666
      @mera3666 5 років тому +1

      @@MrChaosAdam
      oh i don't live in the states!.....saturday isn't a weekend in my country.

    • @MrChaosAdam
      @MrChaosAdam 5 років тому +1

      Awww, my autism failed me :'(

  • @benjaminbethel5640
    @benjaminbethel5640 5 років тому +4

    Nice vieod Ip. When finish genesis and eventually the old testament, are you going to do revelation?

    • @zhihanlim3500
      @zhihanlim3500 5 років тому

      Not sure his series is abt Gen1-11 for the time being

  • @vibrantphilosophy
    @vibrantphilosophy 5 років тому +2

    Hey IP, was wondering if you are going to do a response to Pinecreek’s new video where he attempts to respond to your video on judas’s death.

  • @wordofourtestimony
    @wordofourtestimony 5 років тому

    This series is so essential for us to truly understand the message of the Bible. Thank you.

  • @austintucker394
    @austintucker394 5 років тому +1

    Ok knowing this and whst the next chapter is about and the simple fact your videos are cool I'm eager to see the next part of this series.

  • @reubenlyimo
    @reubenlyimo 5 років тому +1

    great video once again inspiring philosophy i was wondering once your done with this video series if your going to tackle the issue of the history women in the church since many seem to misinterpret verses in the new testament saying women cant` be preachers in church and fail to realise the historical context about the verses and that also paul worked with women apostles and teachers

    • @RagingBlast2Fan
      @RagingBlast2Fan 5 років тому

      I'd discourage you from trying to eisegesis too much of our own contemporary bias, according to which equality is defined not according to one's own intrinsic value as a human being, but by being able to serve the same role regardless of one's own sex. Women and men clearly have different roles in the bible. We cannot simply divorce the bible from the roles instigated by God in the beginning, and which continue to be the legitimate functions of persons in society regardless of the time in which they live. There is no getting around Paul's clear teaching that women are not to be teachers over men. If we take a flexible stance on biblical interpretation according to which any view in the bible which is frowned upon by the consensus of human opinion today, is to be understood as a mere reflection of the time, then any and all biblical teaching can be readily abandoned. God simply loves us as we are, and and we're all equal persons working towards the creation of a better world on our own. The gospel, which says that we could and cannot better ourselves on our own, and required our creator to become our savior, is made of no effect.

  • @katiejackob5405
    @katiejackob5405 3 місяці тому

    That’s wonderful I didn’t look at it that way God bless u

  • @brandonp2530
    @brandonp2530 3 дні тому

    Brilliant stuff mate

  • @spitfirered
    @spitfirered 5 років тому +1

    You understand and point out the truth, thank you.

  • @zhihanlim3500
    @zhihanlim3500 5 років тому +1

    Excellent content!

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo 3 роки тому +1

    The Book of Hebrews explains why Abel's sacrifice was accepted and Cain's was rejected. It is written, "By faith Abel offered a more excellent sacrifice than Cain..." (Heb. 11:4). Cain was doing his religious duty whereas Abel offered his sacrifice "by faith". When our religion becomes mechanical and unspirited, we offer an inferior sacrifice of praise to the Lord our God.

  • @iamthedaughteroftheking3704
    @iamthedaughteroftheking3704 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @DoloresJNurss
    @DoloresJNurss 4 роки тому +2

    I think I see an additional layer to the Cain and Abel story, of trying to extend self-dishonesty to one's relationship to God. Cain only offered God his sweet side--his fruit. Abel included in his offering his capacity to kill--that is to say, being conscious of it, he gives it to God to help him control it. Cain refuses to see that this side of himself even exists, though God tries to bring it to his attention, and so it sneaks up on him and overpowers him. Primogeniture tends to breed narcissists: each firstborn son is a child favored for no accomplishment of his own, but also burdened with an expectation of being perfect--or at least only showing others a perfect mask. Cain's response to his sin is not remorse, but an effort to conceal it, and a worry about how he will be perceived by others. So while the Mark of Cain saves his life, it also punishes Cain in a different and tailored way, striking at the root of the problem: he can no longer conceal his sinfulness. To a narcissist this is more painful than death, but it also points the way to healing, by stripping away Cain's mask so that, if he chooses, he can give his whole self over to God.

  • @ESPNOutofBounds
    @ESPNOutofBounds 5 років тому

    These are so good!!! Don’t stop

  • @lupita11alcantar
    @lupita11alcantar 5 років тому +26

    Leagues more insightful than Jordan Peterson's biblical series.

    • @MutohMech
      @MutohMech 5 років тому +17

      JP is great from a secular perspective, but now that I've converted (with a small help from JP's lectures 😉) then I sure can agree with you that IP is even more insightful!

    • @lupita11alcantar
      @lupita11alcantar 5 років тому

      @@MutohMech that's awesome man. Jordan is an intelligent guy.

    • @steffofflanders6597
      @steffofflanders6597 5 років тому +10

      JBP is a doorstep for people to rethink religion and the Bible. That is all. IP and others are the next step in returning to God.

    • @marvalice3455
      @marvalice3455 4 роки тому

      Having multiple perspectives is good

  • @Gorillarevolta
    @Gorillarevolta 5 років тому +1

    Have you done a video on 666 being Nero?
    It's crazy how it talks about not being able to buy or sell without it and how today there is a spirit that doesn't want Christians having a livelihood

  • @miamichi5
    @miamichi5 5 років тому +1

    Very good stuff... praise Almighty God & our sweet Lord Jesus...🙏!

  • @charachoppel3116
    @charachoppel3116 4 роки тому +2

    "Since Cain denies responsibility of a family, he is deprived of family" -- But he does have a family! "And Cain knew his wife and she bore him a son, and he built a city called Enos, after his son's name." Cain got children so he could fill a whole city!

  • @chrisgibson2106
    @chrisgibson2106 5 років тому +3

    That just really opened my eyes more to Genesis 4

    • @MutohMech
      @MutohMech 5 років тому +2

      @DJ no my man, Ham wasn't the ancestor of Africans, that's propaganda created by American slave owners to dupe blacks and whites. Ham was the ancestor of the Canaanites, who are already gone, don't ever let them tell you the curse of Ham extends to Africans. Africa was the cradle of Christianity, Africans were already Christians long before Europe converted. Ethiopia is one of the oldest Christian nations in the world.
      Don't bite white slave owner propaganda. Slave owners had to censor the book of Exodus from the Bibles given to blacks to prevent them from seeing a God that freed slaves. Open your own eyes.

    • @chrisgibson2106
      @chrisgibson2106 5 років тому

      @DJ ua-cam.com/video/ztVMib1T4T4/v-deo.html

  • @FishersofTheRemnant
    @FishersofTheRemnant 5 років тому +2

    Very insightful. Never thought about that with Lamech and him boasting about murder. Once you pointed that out about polygamy it makes good sense too.

  • @JohnsonOyeniran
    @JohnsonOyeniran 5 років тому +5

    Everything in the bible is overlooked, because we don’t share the same worldview in terms of having the same ancient near eastern mindset Israel did when Yahweh chose them to write the bible for us so that we could know him.

  • @prashantupadhyay5110
    @prashantupadhyay5110 5 років тому

    Invaluable, this is so wonderful, good, real manna

    • @Tugun87
      @Tugun87 4 роки тому

      This isn't the real story. Yes "Cain" killed his twin brother, Cain which isn't his real name was provoked when he offered all his Children(fruits) and they was rejected because they wasn't as beautiful as Ab'EL flock(Sheep). Ab'EL which isn't his real name than made fun and mock, taunted Cain to the point of rage. Ab'EL was proud and bold throw in Cain face how the God of Heaven favored him and his. The narrative of "Am I my brother keeper?" is a lie. Once Cain killed his brother he instantly morned and repented. Then he was re penned and given the Mark of Cain/Mark of the "Beast" from the God of Earth, the name Samu'EL. It isn't like they'er hiding these facts, its in the history of Babylon clear as day.

  • @acem82
    @acem82 3 роки тому +1

    First real issue I've found in this series. Lamech didn't "murder" anyone. He killed, yes, but didn't murder (in the Hebrew "slay" would be a good term for it). From what we can read, he defended himself. He was claiming that if Cain shouldn't die for his murder of Abel, then he certainly shouldn't die for killing someone in self defense.
    Later Scripture is very clear that all homicide isn't murder.

  • @annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239
    @annasthoughtsandmusicalpar2239 5 років тому +1

    This is so cool, I love this channel!

  • @s9523pink
    @s9523pink 3 роки тому

    Incredible, I never would have imagined any of this even though it was an inkling in the back of my mind!

  • @JuanLopez-rl7ry
    @JuanLopez-rl7ry 5 років тому +1

    Dr Jones knows his stuff very well

  • @pandajacket1598
    @pandajacket1598 2 місяці тому

    I would be curious how you reconcile the metal working of Tubal Cain with the old age of the Earth.
    Is the thought that the garden of Eden story would have had to have taken place shortly before the Bronze Age? Or is Tubal Cain maybe only referring to a specific culture’s emplacement of the technology?

  • @garabedo3
    @garabedo3 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @piratehqqker
    @piratehqqker 3 роки тому +1

    It seems like a common theme in the bible that God favors the younger son, such as Isaac and Jacob

  • @sr4836
    @sr4836 5 років тому +6

    Can u make a video on darkmatter2525 video's the one titled God's priorities

  • @georgiakritikos4955
    @georgiakritikos4955 3 місяці тому

    Excellent A+❤Sir,
    Genesis 4:4 brought me here, i study PASS THE BUCK MANY SIT AS DUCKS/>>for the Pick Pockets
    I study POLITICS on Economics for lifestyle ❤

  • @richardmason7840
    @richardmason7840 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks for this, I feel kinda dumb in that I never seen Cain as so un remorseful for the murder, he knew that he was wrong. GOD even warns him prior to his deed.
    Also ,Lamechs Murder ,I didn't see him as gloating, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured it was in self defense.

  • @ivailomaksimov4665
    @ivailomaksimov4665 5 років тому

    Continue to do those series on Genesis. I`d really love if you do it on most of the bible books or on those you do find awesome. After finishing Genesis u can aim for another.

  • @danigan9564
    @danigan9564 Рік тому

    Lord have mercy on us

  • @raycosmic9019
    @raycosmic9019 3 роки тому

    Able brought the first of his flock in offering, while Cain brought whatever was handiest at the moment. The Heart evaluates, determines value. Therefore, guard well the Heart, for from it all the issues of Life emerge.

  • @si9007
    @si9007 5 років тому

    Hey IP. I just watched your debate with Vegan Gains. While I do agree with your stance, I was curious how you would respond to the objection that “If christianity did not exist to begin with, these prejudices and wrongdoings that result from the misinterpretation of the a bible would not occur either.” It seems like in that case, the atheist would have a valid point that if Christianity did not exist, these prejudices would not happen, whether it is from a true interpretation or a misrepresentation of the Bible. Keep up the good work 👌🏼

  • @barry.anderberg
    @barry.anderberg 5 років тому

    Good stuff, I'm glad to see this video is a little shorter.

  • @annb2586
    @annb2586 Рік тому +1

    Wow. I didn't catch how lamech was bosting. It makes me see this passage really differently.

  • @carlfoulkes5023
    @carlfoulkes5023 5 років тому

    Wow what a series! I've only been a Christian for 12 months and most of the my research in apologetics has come from answers for genesis and RC Sproul. This obviously contradicts A4G!
    If you. Don't mind me asking what would your belief be on where/how humans began if A&E were not physically created by God?
    Regards
    Carl

  • @tedetienne7639
    @tedetienne7639 3 роки тому

    I’ve been studying the story of Cain and Abel for a while. I’m still not convinced that this is a story of justice. Cain gave of his fruits - it wasn’t the first fruits like Abel’s, but it was still a gift, one that has no precedent. Nobody had ever given God a gift before. God could easily accept both gifts while noting Abel’s better efforts. He didn’t need to reject Cain’s completely.
    But the second part is even worse in my view. Cain is disappointed with God’s response. Who wouldn’t feel poorly in that situation? If a child gave their father a drawing, and the father crumbled it up, saying “That wasn’t your best effort, who can blame the child for crying? But then, the Genesis story (and other Bible authors) retroactively blame Cain - He MUST have been evil even before God’s reaction. That’s a cop-out; nothing is noted about Cain’s supposed dark emotions until after God’s rejection. This story remains for me a tale of blame shifting and rewriting history, to make excuses for God’s error.

  • @matthewoborne1649
    @matthewoborne1649 3 роки тому

    Making offerings goes back as far as we have known written records. It merely shows religeons had a concept of giving gods things they thought they wanted. the obvious silliness of it was the edible offerings were often eaten by priests afterwards.

  • @alanguages
    @alanguages 3 роки тому

    If Cain were afraid of other humans, that means there were other humans that possibly were banished. They were his siblings, or not of Adam and Eve.
    This raises a lot of questions, that is difficult to answer.

  • @slaveofYAH
    @slaveofYAH 5 років тому +1

    This is a really good video

  • @archangel01MT
    @archangel01MT 5 років тому

    Great Video!

  • @obcane3072
    @obcane3072 5 років тому +2

    1. Were the people that Cain was afraid of the people from Genesis 1?
    2. Did Adam and Eve become priests to these people when they were banished? Or where they to keep away from them? (This would explain how their sons were able to have children without resorting to incest)
    3. If he was banished from this land, was he afraid of the new people he was going to be encountering or from his family (which are not mentioned) or the people in the area of the family?

    • @LairdScott
      @LairdScott 5 років тому +1

      @OB CANE What Moses taught and wrote purposely excluded the pre-Adamic peoples as it was too hard to convey to the laymen in those days. The creation in Genesis 1 predate Adam and Eve, and so did the times of the "sons of God" mating with those peoples. The offspring had an incredible mutation of genetics creating the nephilim and also was against God's plan. They eventually balanced out to normal size but were of a fallen nature. These are the Nodites who dwelt in the land of Nod, and were forbidden fruit for which Adam and Eve to "eat" from. Eve's fall was mating with one, Cain's father, and Abel who was from Adam, taunted Cain to the point of killing him. Cain feared the Nodites, but eventually married 1 and helped to build a city. The priestly mission of Adam Eve was to set the original peoples back on straight after the first team of designated "priests" had rebelled and took the daughters of man as mates. Adam and Eve had a genetic upliftment plan too, but Eve's sin derailed that, and she was deemed mortal by God for defaulting.

    • @obcane3072
      @obcane3072 5 років тому

      @@LairdScott That's a lot of info to assimilate. Interesting regarding the forbidden fruit.
      Could you share your sources?
      1. How did the fruit get into the garden?
      2. Why was it placed there? (Or are you saying there garden was placed in the land that was shared? )
      3. Do you believe that God breathed his Spirit into Adam which the preadamic race did not have?)

    • @LairdScott
      @LairdScott 5 років тому

      @@obcane3072 There is a lot to assimilate. Been studying my main source over 11.5 years.
      Adam/Eve's "priestly mission" was not to be the first humans, as that was done already in Genesis one. They came to oversee man's development, and upstep the genetics of man by having a huge number of offspring who were to go out and mate with the races that God created earlier. Adam/Eve existed in a heavenly realm beforehand and needed earthly bodies created for them to interact with earthlings. They were immortal and required eating from the tree of life to sustain their spiritual currents, as well as eating food to sustain their earthly bodies. A location was designated and created for them to operate out of, and was in close vicinity of some peoples already on earth. The Nodites from the land of Nod were descendants of the nephilim, and their "family tree" or genetics was the forbidden fruit, off limits from Adam and Eve, eating of their tree(having sex) defaulted their mission and were downstepped to mortal(surely they will die). There was a previous implantation of a "priestly mission" to oversee the development of the races, but the Lucifer rebellion messed that up and is recorded as the Watchers, Anunnaki, and the fallen angels stories as well as Greek and Roman mythology. Parts of both of these missions have been confused and interchanged in the records which were taken from to created Genesis. Moses being raised by a Pharaoh had privilege to ancient Egyptian writings passed down from Mesopotamia, and he tried to simplify things in teaching people of his day. The Hebrew priests in Babylonian captivity had access to multiple authors, including Moses, when they constructed Genesis, and Gen 1 is clearly from a different author than Gen 2.
      I've studied from multiple sources but the main one is a revelation known as the Urantia Book, Urantia is the name of our planet and the revelation in this book is from celestial beings under God, not channeled from extraterrestrials as naysayers who have not actually read the information have claimed. The automatic reaction from fundamental Christians is the say it's the work of the devil, because they have been conditioned to do so by their institution. It's impossible to understand what the 2000 pages really say skimming thru a few paragraphs, it's hard to really understand at first because God is HUGE, Great and His creation is so complex for a mere human being, this revelation requires years of study like a university course, however you can start understanding things after you get used to the terminology and how concepts interlace. It's not for everyone, but if you are hungry and dis-satisfied with the answers fed to you, I encourage anyone to check it out, but like I said, it's hard to grasp in the first few paragraphs. There are lots of readers and study groups around the world willing to help a new reader. Here's the main index and each of the papers(chapters) included a playable file as well as the text. www.urantia.org/urantia-book/read-urantia-book-online

    • @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד
      @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד 5 років тому

      @@LairdScott There are no Pre-Adamites that's false doctrine it's even racist at times.

    • @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד
      @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד 5 років тому

      @@obcane3072 1. The people in Genesis 1 were later descendants of Adam & Eve, there is no such thing as Pre-Adamites.
      2. Yes there was incest it wasn't wrong and when Adam and Eve was kicked out the Garden, they lived somewhere else. I guess West of Nod.
      3. Cain feared his sibling i.e. other people. Because he didn't want to be murdered either.
      4. The Most High put the fruit in the garden.
      5. It was placed there as a test and the only law... don't eat it.
      6. There are no Pre-Adamites and yes The Spirit was placed in The Most High.

  • @PortCanon
    @PortCanon 5 років тому

    Well done!
    Another new subscriber, here.
    Will share.

  • @marcusdub07
    @marcusdub07 3 роки тому

    But why did God accept gifts, what is the use or purpose for him? Was it more of a ritual to give us satisfaction that we were praising him? The sacrifice aspect of it all is what I need to learn more on.

  • @nicholaswheeler507
    @nicholaswheeler507 5 років тому +1

    Very interesting. Do you think that Moses obtained the information from Abraham or was this before the practice of oral tradition?

    • @InspiringPhilosophy
      @InspiringPhilosophy  5 років тому +5

      No, I think there were oral traditions handed down.

    • @FreeRadical7118
      @FreeRadical7118 5 років тому

      @@InspiringPhilosophy Isn't that also evidenced by the account of Noah, as he was gathering animals to take aboard the ark? How could he have known what was "clean" and "unclean", prior to the Exodus, unless it was oral tradition?

    • @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד
      @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד 5 років тому

      @@FreeRadical7118 Adamic Law thats how

  • @bella-bee
    @bella-bee 2 роки тому

    You missed the bit at the very end, that people began to call upon the name of the Lord. I find this fascinating. They knew Yahweh’s name, or they understood who he is at least, and what did Adam and Eve do that they had forgotten , that now people began to call, as if they hadn’t before? I’ve also read some people think this is not “began” but “profaned”. Thankfully, Dr Michael Heiser explains it for us, that these are two homonyms of chalel or halel , words that are spelled and sound the same but have different meanings. Eg “bored” in English. One halel means “began”, the other is “profaned”, or similar, but to say “they profaned to call” doesn’t make sense, so it must be the way we have it in the Bible, “they began to call on the name of the Lord”. Well, only a few did, sit seems. The rest were on their way to deserving the flood! Perhaps they were profaning too, in the way they spoke of God. I notice the first commandment Moses receives is exactly to prevent us doing this - do not take the Lord’s name in vain! Fascinating.

  • @alg11297
    @alg11297 5 років тому +1

    Where did the brothers get the idea of giving an offering to God? There is no record of Adam giving an offering or even thanks. The could be a devise plot to create friction between the brothers. Also, there is a missing part of the text where it says and Cain said to his brother. There is nothing recorded. Is that a copyists error?

  • @danielmiller2886
    @danielmiller2886 Рік тому

    How did God communicate to Cain and Able? There is specific dialogue here between Cain and God that indicates a level of communication suggested here that is far beyond what anyone since the garden has experienced, when adam walked with God. Appearances like the burning bush or answering Job from a whirlwind indicate a visible interaction with God. I would love to hear your thoughts.

  • @dawnemile4974
    @dawnemile4974 4 роки тому

    I have a question regarding Abel herding flocks at that time. Why did he have flocks? The Bible seems to indicate that people did not eat meat until after the flood. Also, did Abel kill animals in the past? When did sacrifing animals start and why were the fatty pieces important before the laws given to Israel? Just a few questions that I haven't had an answer to for several years. Why did God not foebid slavery as in Hagar. When did slavery start? Also, Hagat seems to have been a sex slave since Sarah could just give her to Abraham to have a child. Why did God not intervene as he did in other instances? Still curious. Otherwise, good info.

  • @hegel5816
    @hegel5816 5 років тому

    Absolutely brilliant....

  • @voidwalker7774
    @voidwalker7774 4 роки тому

    The land of nod, is phrase like, the land of confusion. It means a state of unrest. And as by note, the names itself bear a meaning itself.
    for example:
    adam => ['man', 'man of soil', 'beginning']
    kain => ['spear', 'political leader']
    henoch => ['inaugurated', 'trained']
    irad => ['city of witness', 'fugitive']
    mehujael => ['destroyed of god', 'smitten of god']
    metuschael => ['man of god']
    lamech => ['strong man', 'for humiliation']
    The names become a crude story of itself. Cain would be the prototypical narccessitic political leader. This a quite a common theme throut the whole bible, that the political or priest cast always things, they know best. Reminds me of our current political situation.

  • @justin5801
    @justin5801 2 роки тому

    Hey IP, I'm struggling to understand what verses 20-22 mean. And it seems like Tubal-cain must've been from the Iron Age, but that doesn't add up given when you date Noah's flood.

  • @folklorelover13
    @folklorelover13 5 років тому +1

    I love your videos!!! Can you do one on the Bible and slavery!? I am reading through the Bible as a former atheist and got to Exodus 21 and now I am feeling stumped again. How could a loving God promote such a thing? 😰 Also I sometimes feel as through the Old Testament and New Testament God are two completely different Gods!!

    • @sr4836
      @sr4836 5 років тому

      Yeah and killing children to ask about that aswell

    • @folklorelover13
      @folklorelover13 5 років тому

      s r what verse are you referring to?

    • @sr4836
      @sr4836 5 років тому

      @@folklorelover13 it's in sumuel

    • @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד
      @שמעיִשראליהוהאלהינויהוהאחד 5 років тому

      @@folklorelover13 There is context behind the slavery, it's not talking about American Slavery which is very different from Biblical Slavery.