Agreed! Ryan's new name, "Q"! With all the knowledge and expertise that man has, he dam near is Q anyway. Well, of the rifle/shooting and reloading scene anyway.. lol
Grandpa had more then one gun, but he only had one that he trusted. He had a old 30-30 he purchased when he first moved to northern MN half a century ago, he purchased a 270 because he wanted a rifle with a scope as he got older, missed a deer with it the first time he used it and it got put in the cabinet and he went back to the 30-30. Don’t think my other grandpa has anything other then his 30-30, except the obligatory shotgun and 22lr for farm pest control.
Would enjoy hearing your comments on a claim made by another scope manufacturer that an ideal scope setup is one where no more than one turn of the windage and elevation turrets should be needed to zero it. Assuming the scope left the factory with the crosshairs aligned with the optical center, it results in the crosshairs still being relatively close to the scope's sweet spot where images appear bright and sharp. The same source reported that the majority of the scopes that customers sent them for repair had their windage, elevation (or both) adjustments maxed out.
Yeah I’m sure this is true. And I’m sure broken scopes are frequently at the end of the adjustment range because the adjustments weren’t working. I’ve been there with two scopes that I had to send back.
11:00 if you can see the bullet hole in the target, without moving the rifle, you simply move the X on the reticle to cover the bullet hole. then fire again. that's how we did it in the military sniper schools i attended. 12:30 ok ... you covered it.
Do you recommend certain magnification on your scope for getting a 0 at a 100 yd. I like to have it maxed out but I know some people recommend not doing that.
You can use a sight in target designed for 100 yards at 50 or 200 yards. If 1 click is 1/4 inch at 100 yards that means 1 click is1/8 inch at 50 yards or 1 click at 200 yards will be 1/2 inch. Pretty simple.
Hey Guys, I agree about the methods you all talked about in regards to zeroing your rifle, meaning, mind, body, rifle & scope.. So I have some questions.. When your scope comes fresh from the box new and the dials are set to zero from the factory, does the scope come that way? set to zero meaning the scopes zero?..and if so does that mean your scope now has full designed mechanical adjustments available up down left and right? or is the scope adjusted to the scopes zero having some value on the dials out of the box and those values are the scopes zero? Also what is the scopes zero point? and what would that typicaly represent in relation to a typical rifles zero? or what the bullit would see. I guess what I want to know is how close is the scope to zero out of the box? can I reset the dials to zero when I get it dailed in? how much of the dials travel is used up to get it to the starting point? how much is left to use for shot adjustments? and how much or when am I forced to hold over typically?..I just do not know much about using scopes to their full potential english/metric ect. just get it close to iron sites set it and forget it with some kentucky windage is how I have done it sense a kid..I appreciate any help you could give me or direct me to a scopes for dummies manual :) !! Thanks and I really love your shows, T
I have watched several of your videos and podcasts and you guys keep talking about "the" ammo that a particular gun "likes". How do you find that specific ammo when there are so many variations to something like a 30-06 ??
Always remember your sight in bullet weight. If you ever run out if that ammo and end up using a 10 to 15 to 20 grain lighter your shots will be higher (typically). Heavier usually hits lower.
Hmm, I’m not sure this is always true. Regardless of the grain weight, if you change ammunition, you need to re-zero. Sometimes even a lot change in the same ammo can require a re-zero.
@@phild9813 i was mainly going off of my experiences with factory ammo. I know ot can still differ but yes, I agree on the re-zero. 9x out of 10 however, I can shoot at about 300yds in 223 and hit bullseye with each grain weight (typically dovetail) and I can just about have a perfect dope for each grain weigh shot and they all refect the above statement. It could just be me
07:12 cool idea to go to the Vortex zero the rifle event and I wish that I could go. Una problema - my work schedule and also, in Texas, rifle (general) season starts in the first weekend of November and I intend to be out there. Then again, even if you were doing this in September some time, I would still have a problem getting to Madison and then an uber or rental to where you are. Fun though it would be. Dang it, if only I was retired with too much time on my hands. I appreciate all the content that you do and all of my rifles have Vortex on them. It just works for me. The glass and reticle (EBR-7C) looks good to my eye. Edited to add: Hot dogs? Now, that is just designed to increase my envy.
It is so nice to live in a metric world. 😉 1/10 Mil = 1cm@100 Meters, 2@50 etc etc. Never understood why a mildot reticle would be combined with MOA click 2nd focalplane scope.
No need to measure anything. Bore sight your rifle at 50yds, take a shot holding dead center on target, hold your reticle dead center, move your crosshairs to where the bullet impacted. Fine adjust at 100yds. Done.
with with most scopes I use 1inch square riffle targets are perfectly fine. every click on the turet is .25 inches so if i'm 2 inches to the right i move redical 8 clicks left at 100 yards at 50yards its 16clicks and 200yards its 4 clicks and so on. not really sure why it people need to complicate it. once you 0 you can get your group. but if your all over the place like 3 inch groups you will never really 0 a rifle.
I always chase. Aim at bullseye, pull trigger, aim back to bullseye, move scope to hole. Simple stupid. Don’t need to know moa or radians or even direction on the turrets. It’s almost impossible to not be on the money in 2 shots.
So answer me this Vortex. How can Arken sale scope better than you for a cheaper price. This coming from someone who owes 9 Vortex’s and 3 of which are Razors. The Arken scopes are kicking your teeth out. My 5x25x56 Arken is clearer than all my Vipers and basically as clear as my Razors. So what’s your response
You all need to interview an A project appleseed senior instructor. Appleseed teaches IMC (inches/minutes/clicks). The program is a great learning oppertunity for a budding rifleman.
Mark your openers are gold!! 😂😂😂
“My pistols are always low left.” Comment is underrated.
It's the sights😂
Shouldn’t make assumptions, you’ll be the guy that actually gets a pistol with the sights way low and left lol
“Bring it back to me in one piece”
😂 Ryan is def Q in this group! Love the show guys keep up the great content!
Agreed! Ryan's new name, "Q"! With all the knowledge and expertise that man has, he dam near is Q anyway. Well, of the rifle/shooting and reloading scene anyway.. lol
Don’t want anything else to purchase like courses and instructional stuff. Experience is the greatest teacher above all else by a mile!
Grandpa had more then one gun, but he only had one that he trusted. He had a old 30-30 he purchased when he first moved to northern MN half a century ago, he purchased a 270 because he wanted a rifle with a scope as he got older, missed a deer with it the first time he used it and it got put in the cabinet and he went back to the 30-30. Don’t think my other grandpa has anything other then his 30-30, except the obligatory shotgun and 22lr for farm pest control.
Would enjoy hearing your comments on a claim made by another scope manufacturer that an ideal scope setup is one where no more than one turn of the windage and elevation turrets should be needed to zero it. Assuming the scope left the factory with the crosshairs aligned with the optical center, it results in the crosshairs still being relatively close to the scope's sweet spot where images appear bright and sharp. The same source reported that the majority of the scopes that customers sent them for repair had their windage, elevation (or both) adjustments maxed out.
Yeah I’m sure this is true. And I’m sure broken scopes are frequently at the end of the adjustment range because the adjustments weren’t working. I’ve been there with two scopes that I had to send back.
Was just at the headquarters today and was invited to the sight in sounds like a great pre season get together.
.35 Rem 10 min talk! Thanks guys another great video!
11:00
if you can see the bullet hole in the target, without moving the rifle, you simply move the X on the reticle to cover the bullet hole.
then fire again.
that's how we did it in the military sniper schools i attended.
12:30
ok ... you covered it.
Do you recommend certain magnification on your scope for getting a 0 at a 100 yd. I like to have it maxed out but I know some people recommend not doing that.
Can't wait to move back to the Midwest, with guys like these gents.
What's the maker and model of the MOA targets you use at Vortex to sight in your rifles at 100 yards?
Action Target sells them, SKU SPT-YV2.
shop.actiontarget.com/SPT-Y-Sig-Sauer-Academy-Sighting-Target.asp
@@VortexNation Thanks and keep up the great work with the podcast.
You can use a sight in target designed for 100 yards at 50 or 200 yards. If 1 click is 1/4 inch at 100 yards that means 1 click is1/8 inch at 50 yards or 1 click at 200 yards will be 1/2 inch. Pretty simple.
Hey Guys, I agree about the methods you all talked about in regards to zeroing your rifle, meaning, mind, body, rifle & scope.. So I have some questions.. When your scope comes fresh from the box new and the dials are set to zero from the factory, does the scope come that way? set to zero meaning the scopes zero?..and if so does that mean your scope now has full designed mechanical adjustments available up down left and right? or is the scope adjusted to the scopes zero having some value on the dials out of the box and those values are the scopes zero? Also what is the scopes zero point? and what would that typicaly represent in relation to a typical rifles zero? or what the bullit would see. I guess what I want to know is how close is the scope to zero out of the box? can I reset the dials to zero when I get it dailed in? how much of the dials travel is used up to get it to the starting point? how much is left to use for shot adjustments? and how much or when am I forced to hold over typically?..I just do not know much about using scopes to their full potential english/metric ect. just get it close to iron sites set it and forget it with some kentucky windage is how I have done it sense a kid..I appreciate any help you could give me or direct me to a scopes for dummies manual :) !! Thanks and I really love your shows, T
I tell my rifle "Shoot straight or I will beat you like a customer who bought an IO Inc AK rifle." Micro MOA every time.
I have watched several of your videos and podcasts and you guys keep talking about "the" ammo that a particular gun "likes". How do you find that specific ammo when there are so many variations to something like a 30-06 ??
Ahhhh dreams jobs right there 🥹🥹🥹
As a Canadian I appreciate Ryan's Trailer Park Boys reference to Mr Lahey earley in the episode 😂
I'm good with the 3 shot .Get my grouping.
Always remember your sight in bullet weight. If you ever run out if that ammo and end up using a 10 to 15 to 20 grain lighter your shots will be higher (typically). Heavier usually hits lower.
Hmm, I’m not sure this is always true. Regardless of the grain weight, if you change ammunition, you need to re-zero. Sometimes even a lot change in the same ammo can require a re-zero.
@@phild9813 i was mainly going off of my experiences with factory ammo. I know ot can still differ but yes, I agree on the re-zero. 9x out of 10 however, I can shoot at about 300yds in 223 and hit bullseye with each grain weight (typically dovetail) and I can just about have a perfect dope for each grain weigh shot and they all refect the above statement. It could just be me
muzzle velocity being the reason why. Heavier rounds usually shoot slower
07:12 cool idea to go to the Vortex zero the rifle event and I wish that I could go. Una problema - my work schedule and also, in Texas, rifle (general) season starts in the first weekend of November and I intend to be out there.
Then again, even if you were doing this in September some time, I would still have a problem getting to Madison and then an uber or rental to where you are. Fun though it would be. Dang it, if only I was retired with too much time on my hands.
I appreciate all the content that you do and all of my rifles have Vortex on them. It just works for me. The glass and reticle (EBR-7C) looks good to my eye.
Edited to add: Hot dogs? Now, that is just designed to increase my envy.
Why isn’t Mark hunting with the 6.5BC?
At the moment, due to components and time to get testing and loading data. Hopefully someday soon.
It is so nice to live in a metric world. 😉
1/10 Mil = 1cm@100 Meters, 2@50 etc etc. Never understood why a mildot reticle would be combined with MOA click 2nd focalplane scope.
How about you talk about cold bore tuning, with ladder loads and shots. This is something I plan to do with my hunting rifle within a week or two.
No need to measure anything. Bore sight your rifle at 50yds, take a shot holding dead center on target, hold your reticle dead center, move your crosshairs to where the bullet impacted. Fine adjust at 100yds. Done.
with with most scopes I use 1inch square riffle targets are perfectly fine. every click on the turet is .25 inches so if i'm 2 inches to the right i move redical 8 clicks left at 100 yards at 50yards its 16clicks and 200yards its 4 clicks and so on. not really sure why it people need to complicate it. once you 0 you can get your group. but if your all over the place like 3 inch groups you will never really 0 a rifle.
Why 3 shots or less? So many videos on this, Am I the only one that enjoys spending time at the range?
I always chase. Aim at bullseye, pull trigger, aim back to bullseye, move scope to hole. Simple stupid. Don’t need to know moa or radians or even direction on the turrets. It’s almost impossible to not be on the money in 2 shots.
Let's try, do a podcast in ten minutes or less.😂😂
So answer me this Vortex. How can Arken sale scope better than you for a cheaper price. This coming from someone who owes 9 Vortex’s and 3 of which are Razors. The Arken scopes are kicking your teeth out. My 5x25x56 Arken is clearer than all my Vipers and basically as clear as my Razors. So what’s your response
First!
You all need to interview an A project appleseed senior instructor. Appleseed teaches IMC (inches/minutes/clicks). The program is a great learning oppertunity for a budding rifleman.