Torque Converter Bolt Noise - 1998 Chevy k1500 (4L60-E)
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this video you can clearly hear the sound that seems to be caused by a bolt bouncing around inside the bell housing. It was not a bolt. In short terms, CHECK YOUR STARTER. After multiple hours of trying to figure out the problem and pulling stuff apart. We learned that the starter would not hold the drive pinion back causing it to bounce off the flywheel. This is why the noise was more noticeable while on an incline. Hope this information and video helps!
I would check the starter first! I spent so much time to get to the flex plate and it ended up being the starter that was tapping on the flex plate. This went on for like 6 months! Before you tear things apart I would recommend putting the front of the truck in the air (the noise will be more frequent) and then try putting the back of the truck in the air (the noise will be gone). This will help you figure out if it is the starter because when the front of the truck was up the starter gear wanted to fall back and tap on the flex plate making it sound like it was the bolt. This came to me because every time I would go to a friend's house with a steep driveway it would tick more frequently. But it wouldn't tick when I was parked on my level driveway. I would give this a try if I were you and you have this problem! :)
Dude, solid input. Just replaced the flex plate on my Tundra (it was completely broken), but my tick noise came back almost immediately.
did you replace the entire starter
That's it!!! same deal as mine is doing. Thanks for this video, this was driving me nuts. It only made a noise when i took off, tilted up or if I hit the brakes moving backwards, truck tilted up again.
Especially when I hit the break backing up. You're the second one to say that @Cole s
Did you replace the whole starter or shim it
Thank you Cole. We replace the catalytic Converter and the noise was still there. we inspected the starter and the Starter gear was sticking out. replace it and the noise was gone. 2005 Chevy Silverado 1500 5.3
That was the EXACT noise my 2005 Suburban was making. I put mine on car ramps and it did make the noise more noticeable. I then backed the vehicle onto a small steep hill. THE NOISE STOPPED. I pulled off of the hill, it started making the noise again. Backed onto the hill again, no noise. I REPLACED THE STARTER AS SUGGESTED, AND THE NOISE IS GONE. The only thing I can figure is that when the armature is energized it kicks out the starter drive to start the vehicle. But the internal spring that draws it back had weakened. REPLACE THAT STARTER. THANK YOU Cole for the suggestion in the fist place
Thanks for the great "noise" video Cole, I had an appointment to take my car into the shop because I thought the transmission needed to be dropped. After watching this video I was like "That's my noise!", replaced the starter and all is well again.
exact same thing just happened to me! i think this video just saved me hundreds LOL
Wow this vid is almost a decade old and it’s the first time I’ve ever had this type of problem
The comments really helped out on this one because I honestly was just about to get a whole new transmission. Thank you.❤
You guys just took the worry off my mind lol, I just put new Trans in last winter,, started making this noise today immediately I thought the same thing. Fly when or torque converter. I'll still be checking said bolts tho
Was it the bolts?
My 99 Silverado is making a similar noise, 5.3/4l60e, I’d like to think my problem is just a stater but I think it’s in the converter. I will check my starter anyway, thanks for the informative video. 👍🏻
So was it the torque converter
K5 blazer with exactly the same noise
It makes more noise going steeply uphill
I will pull the starter
Thanks for the post
I once found a 14mm socket inside of my 1998 Ford explorer transmission bell housing it would make a similar noise every couple rotations I was able to remove it and the truck ended up being a great vehicle for about 130,000 miles until finally the oil pump gave out best 700 dollar truck I ever had Rust in Peace my friend.Also a great noise video I've had flex plate bolts that walked out probably from not being torqued right can make awful noises.
my 96 k1500 with 4l60e making this exact noise. I pulled the inspection cover and swore it was the torque converter. looked closer after reading the comments YES it was the STARTER. I could easily move the starter gear in and out with a screwdriver
Thanks for this! My 94 GMC 1500 is making the exact same rattle noise. It's been driving me nuts trying to figure out what it is.
Mine to. I have a 92 chevy and its a tick and rattling noise. Im pretty sure its something in the torque converter.
You’re the best man thanks for this video! I will change my starter asap
thanks cole for actually telling us what the problem was because people will post videos on what is this and then never say what fixed it ... but i do have a question for all the 88-94 gm truck owners, has anyone experienced a sputter that will shut the motor off everytime you give it gas but when you let off the motor comes back on ... but it only does it sometimes
and it came up for a code that was tps sensor and i replaced it now it does it do it as much but it will still do it ... i do have motor work done but nothing too extreme just alittle here and there to get better perfomance but not enough to mess with the computer
Tps wiring to pcm
My converter make that noise like a bolt is loose but only park works none of the gears work ?
My 92 did the same thing. You give it alot of gas whe it low on gas it would shut truck off then turn back on itself. I replaced my fuel pump and problem went away
My 2005 Suburban sounds EXACTLY that way. Thanks for the confirmation.
man im so bummed,hey guys i know this is a old video but maybe someone reading can help,i have a 95 z71 ive had it since 2001 and so it was making this sound so i changed the flex palte and there wasnt a single crack in it,i crank it up no noise i was like yay but when i put it in gear and started backing it up on this small hill where i park it damn it started again,but only while in drive,i hate to be a parts thrower but looks like thats what i am,do yall think its the starter? i could pull the cover off the bottom of the trans and see,would there be a shiny new scratch mark on the new flex plate if its hitting the starter ? im tired im hurting and to top it off im disabled i got injured at work years ago really bad,so any tips would help,i never take my vehicles to shops because you cant trust them.i mean i have known two trust worthy mechanics my entire life,so if your a mechanic i mean no bad,ok well thanks
Hi. I've got a 1998 Nissan Pathfinder, 164,000 miles, 3.3L V6, 5 speed automatic transmission. When it's first started it knocks or rattles for 3 seconds. Then it stops. Once warm it will only do the startup rattle about 50% of the time. Exact same noise returns from about 1,800 to 3,200 RPM and then stops. If I'm going up a hill it won't do it 50% of the time unless I press the gas pedal and cause RPMs to sharply raise.
The noise increases with RPMs increasing.
The main bearings and rod bearings were changed. Looked good. No rod or crank shaft slop was noted.
Oil/filter is new and full. Same with transmission fluid.
I've narrowed it down to 4 things based on its part time occurrence:
1. Flex plate?
2. Timing belt tensioner failing (unknown when last changed)?
3. Torque converter?
4. Hydraulic lifters?
I have two short videos I recorded it and can share. Thanks!
Had the same noise on my 2000 Tahoe Z71 and it was not the torque converter. Its the starter teeth randomly hitting the fly wheel. Changed the starter and all gone. I initially thought it was the torque converter bolts or the stater shaft/clutch in the torque converter. After inspecting the starter it was still difficult to determine if the additional play in the starter teeth would cause this. I swapped with a known good starter from my suburban and random clanking was gone. It sounded exactly as this video, like a couple of rocks bouncing around.
Yes a couple rocks. Mine is still doing this. I changed my starter with a new one and it still does this. Wtf
@@seancurry5073 then it's probably your tranny or a warped flex plate sometimes the flex plate can be hitting the starter
Did it increases when you accelerated ?
great video , same noise I had on my 2009 silverado , it was the starter that was making that noise , thanks for the video you guys very helpful
Thanks ! This video help me to fix my 95 suburban myself after wasting my money to change flywheel and torque at the mecanic shop
So, what exactly did your problem end up being?
@@mosthighchosen614 if you haven't figured itnoutnit is the starter . I got lucky went to 7 shops muffler , basic , transmission etc. Well finally stopped at a little shop I hadn't noticed sitting back off the Rd . The looked at it and it is the starter . It isn't engaging properly. Fixing it tomorrow . Think I will do a video as this has me so stressed and finding the problems saved me a few thousand . I was going to start with the catalytic converter as that was 5 shops diagnosis . $656 just for the direct fit setup . That I could do my self so no labor. The others all said flex plate / flywheel . I wasn't feeling confident that I could do that job and they were all saying about $1000 for the shop to fix . Starter is $326 and I can do . Any questions you can also message @ motodash2019@gmail.com. Best of luck
Mine is making the same noise! Going to change the starter today 😊
What was the noise? Converter bolts?
Good video but I'm still lost my 89 Cheyenne was making similar noise but when looking over,the torque converter was separated from flywheel so I rebooted it ,still noise and won't go into gear ,any suggestions
on a positive note it makes a cool drum line beat.
How do we fix the problem ?
So how did you diagnose the spring in the starter? My Astro is making a noise like this so I want to check out the starter but I don't know how to tell if the spring is bad.
I have a 96 Tahoe 4wd and it just started making the same noise sounds like loose bolts on torque converter. I just checked them best I could because in order to take inspection plate off I have to remove exhaust and I don't have that nice little access hole like yours. mine does it at idle and when I accelerate but not when coasting or at steady speed. did yours do similar. its funny that you said its the starter because mine wouldn't start or even click and i would wiggle the wires and nothing is loose but then it would start. now it starts no problem and this noise started. i watched the sprocket on the starter and it don't seem to be tapping on the flex plate. the noise seems to be coming from the area. im down to cracked flex plate or starter. it sounds like someone randomly tapping on metal with a wrench. can you please give me some feedback on how you figured out it was the spring in the starter. did you rebuild it or buy a new one. any info would be greatly appreciated.
let me know I have the same issue I'm trying to troubleshoot
+Joshua Clark it was the starter on mine. It would constantly engage
while it's idling tapping. my I'll fire up fine but continues tap
+Joshua Clark mine too it just taps constantly and under accel. The spring was broke in the starter sounded just like the video. don't seem like it would be that but it was I'd pull it and have it checked
My mecanic told me the I'm have to replace the shaft because a lot of vibration come out from the engine
Could I get some people's ideas I got a 05 chevy suberban with a 4l60e I can start it and drive it no noise as soon as it gets to running temperature it starts making a kinda knock noise towards the torque converter and also starts to slip in gears also any ideas?
Having the same issue did you end up fixing it?
old thread but sounds like two different things,as for the trans slipping,have someone do a pressure test on your 4l60e mine was slipping bad when i cranked it up just sitting there,i was like omg no,so it ended up being a cracked dipstick tube for your trans fluid,easy fix,so yea a pressure test for the slipping maybe it could be simple.
Great video without alot of bull,I've got a neighbors boys I've to fix making the exact same noise but is actually a Ford f150
so what exactly was it that fixed the issue ?
brian felix The problem was the starter. The spring inside the starter was broken, causing the starter drive to bounce off the fly wheel.
Why does mine start making a noise when I turn my a/c on? It starts to give a vibration and it passes through the drift shaft and when I turn it off noise goes away...
Compressor going out?
My 2017 Jetta makes this sound. Is this a serious problem and how much does it generally cost to fix?
My 80 makes a noise like this goes a away for a few days amd.comes back so idk it domt do it and high rpm
Mine is making that same noise , it’s a 2004 z71 4x4 I posted it on my page to see if I get any comments on it. Taking it to my mechanic today to see what the issue is.
What was issue?
Bro thanks. Sounds just like mine.
C10 Engine been rebuild n then it started to make this sound I’m please let not be rod nock. N after seen ur video n when under my truck n found out torque was bad n flywheel
Thnks dude
finko flame yea I actually bought a rebuilt 700r4 n bought new flywheel /flexplate n fix it
Changed my starter and it still does this any suggestions? Have a video on my channel
CoryCDS it needs a shim. Loosen the bolts slightly wile it’s running and the sound will go away. That’s how ya figure what side needs a shim. I used a washer to do my spacing lol
Torque converter is probably bad. And yes, shimming also. You should only have a 1/8 to 1/16 inch gap in between torque converter and tranny.
Thanks for the upload. I jave a 1999 Yukon SLT. Just saved me a lot of money. I think I will start with the starter first and go from there. I will also double check the bolts on the flex plate to make sure it's not loose. Mine just started this sound 2 days ago. About how long do i have before it tears anything up? Thanks again for the upload.
That's what mine is doing to same thing like you said start with starter and work my self around till I find the prob good video lots of help
@@jeffcombs1669 my motor started knocking from the bottom shortly after I posted that. I still have it in the back yard now. I started parting it out and then will take it to a scrap yard. I tried 1600 on the top half of the engine just rebuilding it. Then it started knocking from the bottom.
Thank u solved my months off looking. I was going banana every time I look it will go away lol.
My 05 Chevy Tahoe is making a weird noise down there I wonder
Did you figure it out
Yup transfer case
How many miles on the car during that noise?
150000 miles
@@TILEROB thanks for the info. I'm mixed on could be's. I need to check on things.
my 2009 ram just started doing the same noise even in that same pattern. everything works fine starts right away and runs the same. just makes that damn clicking sound but only when I'm not moving but as soon as I take off it goes away.
Jeeze, well look at the starter first if it sounds the same because I ended up removing the transmission and it ended up being the starter not the flex plate... But I only noticed that noise when I was parked up a slight slope causing the starter to bounce off and on the flex plate.
@@HuntingCole mine is making this noise too. And if I pull up my sloped driveway and stop it makes the noise louder, but in park at idle it will barley do it if I Rev it just slightly, I'm preying it's just the starter.. I did have like 3 issues when my starter wouldn't even click, and after turning the key 50 times it would finally start.. this noise just started out of no where, it wasn't something that hot worse with time.. I'm preying it's just the starter not returning all the way after starting.. very bad timing right now...saposta snow 5 inches tomaro in Michigan.. it's fricken April 26th, SPRING!
Starter noise, the Plunger is no holding the crank and his the Flywheel, replace the starter, that's it
Make damn shure you are in your bloomers and having a pizza and chip day while checking for this ..
I thought mine was rod bearing on my 01 f-150 but this is the exact same noise
Check your bolts on the torkconverter one is loose...been there
It was actually a broken spring that holds the gear back in the starter. At a slight inclines, the gear would keep bouncing off the flex plate.
mine sounds like that but its a stick shift
Lmao anyone hear the music the bolt makes
Yeah its a good rythym too 😂
It sounds like some odd time signature jazz you can snap to. Lol
Sounds like arab music lol
I did! As a drummer it sounds like an Indian tabla rhythm. ua-cam.com/video/ObEmrvWTuak/v-deo.html
thanks i have this on my 99 tahoe . they tried to sell me a new engine
2013 silverado with a 5.3 and 6L80E. Same noise
How did you fix it?
It actually was a bad spring in the starter.....
Cole This comment right here just saved me a ton of work on my 2003 Tahoe . I was going nuts trying to track down this exact noise, I was worried cracked flex plate, or torque converter going out... I Pulled the Starter off and the spring was shot so the rattle was coming from there but could only be heard coming from the inspection hole. Thank you, sir!
Great job... problem and fix... thanks for sharing..
So I need to change my starter or can this spring be replaced?
This is the best video that I have found with the clearest sound thank you
I had the same noise in my 1992 chevy silverado. I fucking yanked the motor out thinking it was the motor. You could here it in the back of the engine so i figured it was a bent valve or something internal. I put a built old school 350 4bolt in. 286 cam 10 to 1 compression, aluminum heads etc. Broke it in on the motor stand, couldnt wait to hear it in my truck. Finally get it in my truck. When i fired it up, the fucking noise was still there. When i take that piece of shit torque converter out, im going to fucking incinerate the fucking pile of shit.
Intermittent tapping!
Trans starter problem