Respectfully, even though you haven’t experienced that problem others have. What is worse is that Leica knew about the problem beforehand and didn’t notify anyone until after videos started being made. That is unacceptable from Leica. I’m saying this as a former owner of an SL3 (which had a host of other issues not just the erasing of files) a current owner of a SL2, SL2S reporter, Q2, Q2M and an M11P. I love Leica but I can also be critical of the company and hold them to a high standard, a standard which they have themselves set.
@@TheJalbertstudios absolutely. I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I, again respectfully, would argue if we had to turn back time and go through 2020 once more, would we want to A) prevent said pandemic or B) wait till it’s a full blown pandemic before we blow the horns? I am a huge fan of Leica, huge, dare I say fanboy, but it’s my love that is going to make me be critical of items that feel like missed and step backs compared to their previous cameras.
All due respect, even if it were a handful of cases, which I truly believe it is more than that, a $7000 camera deleting files is simply unacceptable. I love the camera, and have been a long time Leica user and specifically an SL iuser. I had the deletion of images bug happen to me on May 6, meaning TWO MONTHS ago for a project that ended up costing me not only a bad reputation with a very important client, but also cost thousands of dollars in production costs. Downplaying this issue is irresponsible and Leica needs to amend the problem immediately.
That sucks. It’s like some of the Leica fanboys will make any excuses for Leica. Some of them would probably buy a leica even if you had to visualize the pictures to instead of getting them. To lose pictures is an unforgivable mistake by Leica.
I was shocked when I saw this was an issue as had just received my SL3 and have had no issues, but it appears to only happen when the camera is left on, is that correct.? If so, clearly a bad habit/laziness of the user to do that, have always been thought to turn off any electrical item with batteries before changing as could cause a short circuit etc….thus it has ever been. Similar issue with shutting down aero engines in a certain sequence before restarting, there is a process which you should follow. If you take the risk, you may have to pay the price. Sorry you lost your work sir.k
@@kenmonahan9924 wow. You are blaming the user! This shouldn’t happen no matter what! You are exactly what I’m referring to. A Leica fanboy who will make any excuse for a bad company. You should be able to leave your camera on as long as you want without picture loss. What of you are shooting a wedding. Ridiculous comment!
I come from the Canon 1Dx Mark II era but currently own a Nikon Z9 which I consider the best camera ever for speed and resolution. I recently bought the Leica 50mm f0.95 Noctilux and an adapter to use it on the Z9. HOWEVER I’m still getting the Leica SL3 because I consider it to be the most beautiful camera ever. I just want to own it for the sake of owning it. 😊
How do you like the ,95 lens? I bet it's amazing and with such a narrow focus. The Z9 is amazing, I try not to use anything higher then 6400 iso with it. I feel it is pretty noisy there and above. I have the 135 1.8 50 and 85 1.2 and they are the bomb! You will love the Leica SL3, it is a great camera but I just can't use it for speed. A tool for every job. Thank you for commenting and let me know how you like your SL3 when you get it!
It’s while the camera is in standby… and there’s no clear way of telling if you’ve set it to standby or off. Actually, the bug seems simple and simply fixed. Leica need to save the file name counter in long-term memory when entering standby, so it won’t be reset to an earlier number if power is lost.
I honestly do not know! I have to admit being in a hurry. I have done that kind of stuff myself, but I know it is not good on electronics regardless of the situation.
Good Points Made. No perfect camera and bugs have to be fixed in firmware. With the new Power Button if pressing it for 5 seconds or more You should see it powering off. Shorter time it goes to sleep. Most people forget this feature and are in a hurry in switching the battery while the camera is actually in sleep. I have done this in the past with other camera brands and the only thing that was deleted was the file I was recording at the time which I forgot it was on. It reset the camera settings also. I solved most of my battery problems with Dummy Batteries. Love the Leica one for my Q3, Sl2-S and maybe one day for the SL3. Cheers!
Losing photos in an assignment is a disaster, there is no sugarcoating it. It happened to me! I like the SL3, but I think too much was focused on eye candy than stability. I hope they learn from it and don't deliver a sluggish product. The SL2 was always great from the beginning.
I get that, I was fortunate, never knew of the issue and never had any issues, I did the firmware update last week. I have a new quick video coming with my 4 week take and some fun pics.
100% agree. Ive had my Sl3 since release and never had a frame being overwritten. And nice that they came out with a firmware update really fast once the potential issue was uncovered. But i love my SL3 and use it every day with M lenses and Sl autofocus lenses.
That’s fantastic! I wish I had kept my M lenses but I really wasn’t sure I was going to get fully vested with Leica! I’m glad you are loving it as well!
I use the X2D, M11, SL2 and Q2. Flawless images all four. Leica user for 63 years. Totally satisfied and have not experienced the issues complained about. The digital file is what I want, and Leica lenses get me there. The XCD lenses are amazing too.
Well, I am late to the game! I got into Laika when my brother passed away, we used to tease him all the time because it took him forever to take a picture lol he had the M8 and the M9 and the M9 had a lot of issues with it The chip was bad and like a said, it could not be fixed. So I ended up buying an M10 R. And that got me into the game.
You made me laugh when you made the statement about Kodachrome. I use to shoot 64 back in 1977/78. I don't get all the excitement about Fuji's film simulations. But I agree with you if you can't afford or don't like Lecia just buy something else. Hope you see may more healthy year.
Thanks for making this! Those comments and videos …I’m thinking of one in specific with a hog “warning” thumbnail. He didn’t even experience the issue himself… Very well said …great video!
I've owned many Leica's over the years from film to digital starting with the M9, M9 monochrome, SL, SL2, M10 and loved all of them. No camera is perfect although the M10 is damn near perfect which is why I still own mine. The only 2 I've ever just hated and returned were the M type 240 and the SL3. The SL3 just had too many issues to warrant the price some of which were serious downgrades from the previous model including the overall built quality and the ibis which is tragically bad. I returned mine and got an sl2-s since I had sold my SL2 to buy the SL3 and then ended up returning it. I will say the SL2-S for me thus far has been a better camera than the SL3 which is crazy to me...even the color science is better to my eye. People were loving the SL3 upon its announcement they sold out quickly I had to wait months for mine and I ordered it day 1...people got it in their hands and were simply disappointed. If it was a great camera that wouldn't be the case.
Truthfully, I ended up selling it. Do I regret that, yes I do. I guess the one that I had had some issues with it and I really didn’t know but I may eventually pick up another one! The new lenses paired with that camera really was nice.
My good buddy shoots interiors and lost tons of images on a project, unacceptable on any camera especially on a 7k camera. BTW he didn't even pull a battery out
Well, I am sorry to hear that and yes, that is correct. It should never be but as I said, I had never experienced anything like that so I guess I’m fortunate
@@TheJalbertstudios you said people shouldn’t complain about this camera or not buy it because not everyone loses photos on it. 😂 im not wasting time listening to it again. You’re opinion isn’t as important as you think it is.
If you are a Canon shooter you hate Nikon. If you shoot Nikon You hate Canon. You shoot Fuji you hate Sony. You shoot Sony you hate everyone. So easy to bash. learn your camera and what it can do. Takes more than 2 weeks to learn a new camera.Learn your camera shoot what works and who cares if I prefer my Leica cameras
It all boils down to the photographer. People blame gear, they think if they get this new gear they will be better. I have shot with all of them and they all are good in their own ways. I have taken pics with my iphone that paid for the phone 2 times over. The best camera you have is the one that's on you.
first thing right of the bet I gave thumb down . cause name was deceiving . notwithstanding whilst paying attention - couldn't agree more with the guy. btw huge thank you for bringing up x2d issue . I own Leicas top brass , before ive had all there is top tier of other brands. I am sick of hearing of H real like colors meanwhile suffering with shittty leica magenta and cool cast that make images without working on WB suck . ive heard before about H H2s quality issue and awful support . although they do their best to keep it under rug . you caught me the very last moment before plunging into x2d100 with of course 2their best lenses . now I am assured to avoid H . all and all thank you - best of luck ! @georges_angeles
Respectfully, even though you haven’t experienced that problem others have. What is worse is that Leica knew about the problem beforehand and didn’t notify anyone until after videos started being made. That is unacceptable from Leica.
I’m saying this as a former owner of an SL3 (which had a host of other issues not just the erasing of files) a current owner of a SL2, SL2S reporter, Q2, Q2M and an M11P. I love Leica but I can also be critical of the company and hold them to a high standard, a standard which they have themselves set.
Thank you for sharing, I wasn’t aware
@@TheJalbertstudios absolutely. I agree with most of what you’re saying, but I, again respectfully, would argue if we had to turn back time and go through 2020 once more, would we want to A) prevent said pandemic or B) wait till it’s a full blown pandemic before we blow the horns? I am a huge fan of Leica, huge, dare I say fanboy, but it’s my love that is going to make me be critical of items that feel like missed and step backs compared to their previous cameras.
All due respect, even if it were a handful of cases, which I truly believe it is more than that, a $7000 camera deleting files is simply unacceptable. I love the camera, and have been a long time Leica user and specifically an SL iuser. I had the deletion of images bug happen to me on May 6, meaning TWO MONTHS ago for a project that ended up costing me not only a bad reputation with a very important client, but also cost thousands of dollars in production costs. Downplaying this issue is irresponsible and Leica needs to amend the problem immediately.
So sad! Thank you for sharing g
That sucks. It’s like some of the Leica fanboys will make any excuses for Leica. Some of them would probably buy a leica even if you had to visualize the pictures to instead of getting them. To lose pictures is an unforgivable mistake by Leica.
This sucks man
I was shocked when I saw this was an issue as had just received my SL3 and have had no issues, but it appears to only happen when the camera is left on, is that correct.? If so, clearly a bad habit/laziness of the user to do that, have always been thought to turn off any electrical item with batteries before changing as could cause a short circuit etc….thus it has ever been. Similar issue with shutting down aero engines in a certain sequence before restarting, there is a process which you should follow. If you take the risk, you may have to pay the price. Sorry you lost your work sir.k
@@kenmonahan9924 wow. You are blaming the user! This shouldn’t happen no matter what! You are exactly what I’m referring to. A Leica fanboy who will make any excuse for a bad company. You should be able to leave your camera on as long as you want without picture loss. What of you are shooting a wedding. Ridiculous comment!
I come from the Canon 1Dx Mark II era but currently own a Nikon Z9 which I consider the best camera ever for speed and resolution. I recently bought the Leica 50mm f0.95 Noctilux and an adapter to use it on the Z9. HOWEVER I’m still getting the Leica SL3 because I consider it to be the most beautiful camera ever. I just want to own it for the sake of owning it. 😊
How do you like the ,95 lens? I bet it's amazing and with such a narrow focus. The Z9 is amazing, I try not to use anything higher then 6400 iso with it. I feel it is pretty noisy there and above. I have the 135 1.8 50 and 85 1.2 and they are the bomb! You will love the Leica SL3, it is a great camera but I just can't use it for speed. A tool for every job. Thank you for commenting and let me know how you like your SL3 when you get it!
I agree with you 100% , I'm using sl3, and I'm over the moon ❤
Wonderful!!
Why are people removing the battery and memory card while the camera is ON????🤦♂️
It’s while the camera is in standby… and there’s no clear way of telling if you’ve set it to standby or off.
Actually, the bug seems simple and simply fixed. Leica need to save the file name counter in long-term memory when entering standby, so it won’t be reset to an earlier number if power is lost.
I honestly do not know! I have to admit being in a hurry. I have done that kind of stuff myself, but I know it is not good on electronics regardless of the situation.
Good Points Made. No perfect camera and bugs have to be fixed in firmware. With the new Power Button if pressing it for 5 seconds or more You should see it powering off. Shorter time it goes to sleep. Most people forget this feature and are in a hurry in switching the battery while the camera is actually in sleep. I have done this in the past with other camera brands and the only thing that was deleted was the file I was recording at the time which I forgot it was on. It reset the camera settings also. I solved most of my battery problems with Dummy Batteries. Love the Leica one for my Q3, Sl2-S and maybe one day for the SL3. Cheers!
Thank you for the info! I love learning things! You’ll love the SL3!
Losing photos in an assignment is a disaster, there is no sugarcoating it. It happened to me! I like the SL3, but I think too much was focused on eye candy than stability. I hope they learn from it and don't deliver a sluggish product. The SL2 was always great from the beginning.
I get that, I was fortunate, never knew of the issue and never had any issues, I did the firmware update last week. I have a new quick video coming with my 4 week take and some fun pics.
Perfectly said!
Thank you!
100% agree. Ive had my Sl3 since release and never had a frame being overwritten. And nice that they came out with a firmware update really fast once the potential issue was uncovered.
But i love my SL3 and use it every day with M lenses and Sl autofocus lenses.
That’s fantastic! I wish I had kept my M lenses but I really wasn’t sure I was going to get fully vested with Leica! I’m glad you are loving it as well!
100% agree.
I use the X2D, M11, SL2 and Q2. Flawless images all four. Leica user for 63 years. Totally satisfied and have not experienced the issues complained about. The digital file is what I want, and Leica lenses get me there. The XCD lenses are amazing too.
Well, I am late to the game! I got into Laika when my brother passed away, we used to tease him all the time because it took him forever to take a picture lol he had the M8 and the M9 and the M9 had a lot of issues with it The chip was bad and like a said, it could not be fixed. So I ended up buying an M10 R. And that got me into the game.
You made me laugh when you made the statement about Kodachrome. I use to shoot 64 back in 1977/78. I don't get all the excitement about Fuji's film simulations. But I agree with you if you can't afford or don't like Lecia just buy something else. Hope you see may more healthy year.
I almost cried when kodachrome went away! The fuji E6 was so saturated and so are their digital cameras. Thank you!!
Thanks for making this! Those comments and videos …I’m thinking of one in specific with a hog “warning” thumbnail. He didn’t even experience the issue himself…
Very well said …great video!
I've owned many Leica's over the years from film to digital starting with the M9, M9 monochrome, SL, SL2, M10 and loved all of them. No camera is perfect although the M10 is damn near perfect which is why I still own mine. The only 2 I've ever just hated and returned were the M type 240 and the SL3. The SL3 just had too many issues to warrant the price some of which were serious downgrades from the previous model including the overall built quality and the ibis which is tragically bad. I returned mine and got an sl2-s since I had sold my SL2 to buy the SL3 and then ended up returning it. I will say the SL2-S for me thus far has been a better camera than the SL3 which is crazy to me...even the color science is better to my eye. People were loving the SL3 upon its announcement they sold out quickly I had to wait months for mine and I ordered it day 1...people got it in their hands and were simply disappointed. If it was a great camera that wouldn't be the case.
what happened to your X2D Hasselblad? I am considering that rig to pair with a SL2S.
Truthfully, I ended up selling it. Do I regret that, yes I do. I guess the one that I had had some issues with it and I really didn’t know but I may eventually pick up another one! The new lenses paired with that camera really was nice.
My good buddy shoots interiors and lost tons of images on a project, unacceptable on any camera especially on a 7k camera. BTW he didn't even pull a battery out
Well, I am sorry to hear that and yes, that is correct. It should never be but as I said, I had never experienced anything like that so I guess I’m fortunate
Love mine but I can name 3 things I would like to change so what I can say the same about any car Ive ever bought….
True! Maybe on the next one!
People lost their photos! Make every excuse you want but it’s perfectly understandable if people don’t like the cameras you don’t.
I like all cameras, but I don’t trash cameras that I don’t use or haven’t used or used for a week. Try to listen to the video again.
@@TheJalbertstudios you said people shouldn’t complain about this camera or not buy it because not everyone loses photos on it. 😂 im not wasting time listening to it again. You’re opinion isn’t as important as you think it is.
Neither is yours. Thanks for stopping by
@@TheJalbertstudios I think you’re a little too sensitive for UA-cam. Good luck 🍀
Maybe, sorry
Love it!
So glad!
If you are a Canon shooter you hate Nikon. If you shoot Nikon You hate Canon. You shoot Fuji you hate Sony. You shoot Sony you hate everyone. So easy to bash. learn your camera and what it can do. Takes more than 2 weeks to learn a new camera.Learn your camera shoot what works and who cares if I prefer my Leica cameras
It all boils down to the photographer. People blame gear, they think if they get this new gear they will be better. I have shot with all of them and they all are good in their own ways. I have taken pics with my iphone that paid for the phone 2 times over. The best camera you have is the one that's on you.
I have had lots of cameras over 40 years but, Ricoh gr3 and gr3x are probably the ones I have actually enjoyed the most.
@@r423sdex my brother loved those cameras as well! In fact, I have one of them, but I have never used it
I love how Leica users are turning on Leica and devouring the brand.
Not this guy
first thing right of the bet I gave thumb down . cause name was deceiving . notwithstanding whilst paying attention - couldn't agree more with the guy. btw huge thank you for bringing up x2d issue . I own Leicas top brass , before ive had all there is top tier of other brands. I am sick of hearing of H real like colors meanwhile suffering with shittty leica magenta and cool cast that make images without working on WB suck . ive heard before about H H2s quality issue and awful support . although they do their best to keep it under rug . you caught me the very last moment before plunging into x2d100 with of course 2their best lenses . now I am assured to avoid H . all and all thank you - best of luck !
@georges_angeles
Enjoy