i've heard of ocean spray but never used it. when i use natural shoots i use "arrow wood" a viburnum, "red willow" , wild "cherry", and cane. with the exception of cane these other shoots can be perfectly straightened with out heat. i bundle my shoots but each day i will straighten each shaft with finger pressure and an arrow straightening tool . then re-bundle them. by the second week the shafts begin to respond and hold some straightness. if you do this every day you can straighten the shafts perfectly in about a month if you store them in a dry area. i used to use heat but about 20 or more years ago i began to just straighten them as just described. it's much easier and takes less time. i made my first heat straightened arrows from choke cherry shoots when i was around 11 years old, i'll be 72 in a few months. i've made a lot of arrows. try it and see for yourself.
Nice work on the arrow shafts and points! Your trade points are almost identical to some I made and hunted with 2 seasons ago! Good video as well, and love the fact that you are spending time with your kids while making archery gear! I do the same with mine and it is definitely worth it! God bless!
Been building my own gear since I was 4 1/2...(1957)..you did a good job! I like to shoot in my 1967 ( stick bow), around 485 grain arrows... Thanks for sharing !🧙♂️👍!
I believe I tempered these in the oven at 400*F for 2 one hour cooks. Just make sure to use olive or veggie oil in stead of motor oil during your gardening quench so it doesn’t smell up your house when you bake (temper) them.
When you wrap with the sinew are you dabbing glue on them to hold it together, or just putting a knot ? Also what type of thread are you using, is it artificial sinew?
Yes, this was artificial sinew. I started the thread with a dab of super glue, then spread a thin layer of glue over the finished wrap. It holds very strong.
@Making Traditional thanks mate. Do you just use normal super glue or wood glue or do you believe heated pine resin will work to hold the artificial sinew?
I used regular super glue on these. I think any of those would work. Pine pitch would offset the artificial sinew and give you a more primitive result. Thinned wood glue would work too.
Great job, but how do you deal with inconsistencies in weight and still achieve proper spine? This is a big deal, and not adequately accomplished by most people, with this type of shaft from shoots of anything. Generally accurate shafts are definitely achievable, but anything better requires a better explanation of process.
Yes! I was wondering what kind of metal work that the native Americans were doing? The plains natives in particular. Like where it was sources from? And if it was things like steel barrel braces or wagon wheel rims? How would they go about breaking it down Into smaller usable pieces ? I know that the natives on the east coast were heavy in to working copper.
I've made primitive arrows both ways. With machinery and with primitive stone and fire only. It makes no difference on how it feels to complete an arrow. Machinery just makes it cleaner, and faster process.
Traditional and primitive archers should thank the price gougers for causing us to reexamine the viability of traditional materials. I took was caught up in all the latest greatest whatever craze that causes you to part with a lot of money for very little. I have never harvested any kind of game over 25yds and all things considered I do not need some engineering nightmare to do what people have been doing for many thousands of years.
Hard to argue with proven primitive methods! It’s a skill that is getting lost though. People have some relearning to do, myself included. Thanks for watching!
3 feet long is generous for anyone's shaft. I think he's just bragging at this point. He's not wrong about having to straighten the shaft often though. You should straighten your shaft at least once a day. Another good archery tip I got from Game of Thrones is stick them with the pointy end. We are still talking about archery aren't we?
good looking arrow heads, and nice wrapping on the feathers.
I appreciate it!
Damn. They worked pretty good. Looked like they flew good from where I’m sitting.
Nice Build I'm impressed for sure 😎👍💯🇺🇲
Really liked that video man, Nice looking arrows and bow.
Thanks Matt, it was a fun one to make!
i've heard of ocean spray but never used it. when i use natural shoots i use "arrow wood" a viburnum, "red willow" , wild "cherry", and cane. with the exception of cane these other shoots can be perfectly straightened with out heat. i bundle my shoots but each day i will straighten each shaft with finger pressure and an arrow straightening tool . then re-bundle them. by the second week the shafts begin to respond and hold some straightness. if you do this every day you can straighten the shafts perfectly in about a month if you store them in a dry area. i used to use heat but about 20 or more years ago i began to just straighten them as just described. it's much easier and takes less time. i made my first heat straightened arrows from choke cherry shoots when i was around 11 years old, i'll be 72 in a few months. i've made a lot of arrows. try it and see for yourself.
Ok, I must admit that I am truly amazed!
Nice work!
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Nice
Thank you!
Nice work on the arrow shafts and points! Your trade points are almost identical to some I made and hunted with 2 seasons ago! Good video as well, and love the fact that you are spending time with your kids while making archery gear! I do the same with mine and it is definitely worth it! God bless!
Thanks my friend!
Been building my own gear since I was 4 1/2...(1957)..you did a good job! I like to shoot in my 1967 ( stick bow), around 485 grain arrows...
Thanks for sharing !🧙♂️👍!
Awesome! So satisfying to build your own int it?
Been building my top of the line equipment since I was 2 years old. Take that you moron.
Making primitive arrows, with a machine?😂
Very nice 👌❤️
Thank you!
Wow
Nice!!!!
Love those trade points I’m going to give them a try myself! How long and at what temp did you temper the points?
I believe I tempered these in the oven at 400*F for 2 one hour cooks. Just make sure to use olive or veggie oil in stead of motor oil during your gardening quench so it doesn’t smell up your house when you bake (temper) them.
@@MakingTraditional Perfect thank you! Can’t wait to try it out, Love all your content man keep it up!
Very nice! Next time try single bevel. Easier and better. Did the impact split the shaft at all?
When you wrap with the sinew are you dabbing glue on them to hold it together, or just putting a knot ? Also what type of thread are you using, is it artificial sinew?
Yes, this was artificial sinew. I started the thread with a dab of super glue, then spread a thin layer of glue over the finished wrap. It holds very strong.
Sin•YOO.....NOT Sin•ooh
Indians didn't have three or four months they were on the warpath
Were u using artificial sinew?? And does it dry and harden at all?
Yes this was artificial. It doesn't act much like natural sinew at all. Its mostly aesthetic, the super glue holds is well. Thanks for watching!
@Making Traditional thanks mate. Do you just use normal super glue or wood glue or do you believe heated pine resin will work to hold the artificial sinew?
I used regular super glue on these. I think any of those would work. Pine pitch would offset the artificial sinew and give you a more primitive result. Thinned wood glue would work too.
Great job, but how do you deal with inconsistencies in weight and still achieve proper spine? This is a big deal, and not adequately accomplished by most people, with this type of shaft from shoots of anything. Generally accurate shafts are definitely achievable, but anything better requires a better explanation of process.
Is it really a primitive arrow if you use modern-day equipment to build it😅
Yes! I was wondering what kind of metal work that the native Americans were doing? The plains natives in particular. Like where it was sources from? And if it was things like steel barrel braces or wagon wheel rims? How would they go about breaking it down Into smaller usable pieces ?
I know that the natives on the east coast were heavy in to working copper.
I've made primitive arrows both ways. With machinery and with primitive stone and fire only. It makes no difference on how it feels to complete an arrow. Machinery just makes it cleaner, and faster process.
Traditional and primitive archers should thank the price gougers for causing us to reexamine the viability of traditional materials. I took was caught up in all the latest greatest whatever craze that causes you to part with a lot of money for very little. I have never harvested any kind of game over 25yds and all things considered I do not need some engineering nightmare to do what people have been doing for many thousands of years.
Hard to argue with proven primitive methods! It’s a skill that is getting lost though. People have some relearning to do, myself included. Thanks for watching!
3 feet long is generous for anyone's shaft. I think he's just bragging at this point. He's not wrong about having to straighten the shaft often though. You should straighten your shaft at least once a day. Another good archery tip I got from Game of Thrones is stick them with the pointy end. We are still talking about archery aren't we?
Eliminate the background music. Makes it difficult to hear you talk,!!
Unable to get ocean spray in illinois… ? Cost to send a doz shoots for me to try
Wait??? Your making a primitive arrow witha band saw??? Really. Get out
It's not a primitive arrow if you don't use flint arrowheads