"MULTISCALE GUITARS ARE DYING", STEPH CARPENTER TO KIESEL, NEW SLASH & RABEA GEAR || ASKgufish
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So is Line6 dead? I don’t hear anything about them or any products other than random variations on smaller, always scaling down versions of the Helix family.
Also have you tried a Knaggs?! I have a Steve Stevens model that crushes!
On the point about moving back to classic designs, I definitely feel that but I think it needs to be specifically classic designs with more varied or modern features. We’ve had enough 8 string guitars in black with active mount pickups in a strat style body. Let’s get a tobacco burst T style 8 string with passive mounting.
Hell yeah
Please! I played an EVH Wolfgang standard the other day and was blown away by the features on the neck. At $600 having a roasted maple neck with graphite reinforcement I’m baffled that those aren’t standard features on all guitars at this point. Pair that with Harley Benton’s stainless steel fretwork and that sounds like a great combination to me!
Check out Jericho guitars, they might have something for you
You can get a Kiesel solo made like that.
Doesn't have to be an either or proposition...
Strandberg probably would be considered the "standard". Ibanez QX series with "slanted frets" is actually an amazing approach being it isn't exactly a multiscale but plays amazing.
At first, I would’ve thought Ornsby would be the standard-bearer, but then if we consider the fact that Strandberg is also the standard-bearer for headless guitars and how popular headless multi scales are, I can see your point.
Frankly I’d like to see Steph and Deftones do more 6 string White Pony era stuff.
Nah. That would be too hard. Jk jk
Stef was using 7 string guitars for that album. Around the fur and adrenaline were the albums he stayed on a 6
I don't think multi-scale will die out since it has a legitimate & useful purpose plus it's super comfortable to play. It has definitely landed in its own niche area through the years though, and there are people like me who look at a traditional black or brown guitar & are completely uninspired, I'm a visual person 😂gimme wacky colours, designs, shapes etc and I'll pick that baby up!
Specialized niche, can’t wait to order my Keisel 7 multi scale!
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I've still yet to even PLAY a fanned fret instrument. However, for my own taste I can survive without multi-scale until I get typically get to the 8 string guitar range, super low tuned basses, and even 7 strings. I tune my 8 string down to Drop D#1 so if I was DARE to try and match that tuning of even F# Standard on a bass, I'd be crazy not to go after an extended scale bass. Like Dingwall or the new Ibanez BTB806MS 6-string bass.
@Dung Eater I've played guitar/bass for 20 years without needing them 😂 I'll grab a Dingwall or Ibanez multiscale bass in the future just to cover my low tuned grounds. Aside from that, I'm content!
I like seeing signature artists able to show off all their gear, because you know they use a TON of different gear on the stage and in the studio. I know I would never be able to stick with *just* Kiesel, Gibson, or Fender (I use a Hyperdrive, Les Paul Goddess, and Strat in my 80s band, and a CT624 and Les Paul Custom in my classic/alt rock band; I'd never be able to pick a single model as a "signature" because I use different guitars for different things).
Started to put this on and do other things, till I realized I was missing out on all the guitars you edit in, the work you put in doesn't go unnoticed, love the series!
Yeah multiscales are definitely a niche thing. A lot of folks round here in the east coast of Canada don’t flock to them in mass droves. Mostly V’s, single cuts, strata, teles. Even 7 or 8 string guys stick to Jackson or ESP/LTD stuff.
I'd love to have a slight fan on a fretboard, 7 string 26.5 to 25.5 would be awesome for me!
Bare knuckle pickups are awesome and theyre lovely folk too.
Another awesome uk brand of pickups is mojo, much smaller firm but the quality n sound is on point!
Great vid as ever sir :)
For me I was stoked to see Rabea announce his Music Man deal and upcoming signature, as well as the single coil set. Carpenter is the 2nd guitarist recently to announce a co-endoresment thing with Kiesel. Devin Townsend did the same thing with Kiesel and also for headless models. And he did it with Framus blessing.
I'm curious. Would you ever demo a Kiesel if they reached out to you?
I have Bare Knuckle pickups in 8 of my guitars, they are fantastic. And Tim, who runs Bare Knuckle, is always willing to answer any questions that I've put to him. How many owners of other pickup companies would do that?
Great video! I never really cared for the headless guitars but I've heard that you can get the lowest usable action on a headless so I might have to check them out sometime.
Music Recommendation, dope's new album is, well..... dope
Not sure if its typical, but i have a set of Aftermaths, but the guitar they came in doesn't have a tone control pot.
They sound great when you want only super aggressive, but the lack of control is...
Do they always get wired without tone control?
Devin Townsend also recently began endorsing Kiesel for his headless chill stuff, while still being mainly with Framus.
Really cool to see artist getting co-endorsement deals like ESP being cool with Steph working with Kiesel. And of course James and Kirk being endorsed by ESP and them being cool letting them work with Gibson.
I've been moving back to basic guitar types. For example I modified an EC256 to have coil split/in and out of phase/series parallel all on push pull pots...was fun to wire up.... Anyway, removed it all and have 3 alpha pots with Duncan braided wire 59 in bridge and jazz in neck...basic.
It seems that the smaller companies are better suited to the extended range. Since it is specialized range of instruments. I prefer 7 string guitars because honestly because having another b string is appropriate to me. I like Jackson’s/Ibanez/Schecter the most. ESP Steph(Deftones)guitar I really like. 2:49 9:44
In my opinion the neutral fret on the 8th fret is the best, because the angle isn't too sharp to throw off open/barre chords and the lower strings feel longer.
My main guitar is equiped with Bare Knuckle Aftermath and they sound very nice
9:02 I liked his old set. I had a slash epiphone briefly, it’s one of my favorite set of pick ups.
Multiscale always seemed weird to me. Muscle memory would probably make me hate it.
I’m not that good but I had no problem getting used to it. It’s not hard at all.
@@KairuX32 I think that's the thing, to be honest. Was the same for me, consider me pretty average. No issues to adapt whatsoever. My guitar teacher though? Hated it. He's a capable shredder and fast runs just didn't line up with his muscle memory.
i thought so too but after playing nothing but standard scale guitars for years i bought a multi scale guitar and it’s far more comfortable then a standard scale one. 10/10 definitely recommend at least trying one!!
@@mophead7759 Next time I go to a shop I’ll see if they have one. Definitely gotta try one before ruling it out.
it actually doesn't change much at all
Love bare knuckle pups. Got a used Valiant and a UA-camr who had it took the bare knuckles out of it and put his own personal pups in it. So I talked to Bareknuckles and they recommended PeaceMakers. Love them!
I like those headless guitars that don't have the tuners hanging off the bottom. Think EART, Asmuse, ALP, Leo Jaymz, etc. If I did get one with the tuners hanging off like that, it would be an Ibanez Q series or a Harley Benton Dullahan, for sure.
Multiscale is definitely FAR from dying out...I was very much against multiscale until I bought a strandberg, and now I own 2.
Kiesel have also started working with Devin Townsend, while he is a Framus artist. I think it makes sense; You look way more gracious as a manufacturer if you can move aside to make space for someone bringing something different, you actually reinforce your relationship with the artist if you give them room to grow, and you dont have to start making a product outside your wheelhouse to suit their needs. Maybe this shift in mentality means that manufacturers could even start collaborating in the future, in the way pedal makers do.
Tried a multiscale 7 string in 2017, and aside from the guitar being horribly made (I hear Legator are doing a bit better these days), I didn't care much for the multiscale. I've had an 8 string with a straight 28" scale since 2018 and I'm perfectly fine with it. but I do tune down to DGDGCFAD for my music, so if I were playing in standard, I might consider 8 gauge strings instead of 9 gauge. It's not the 1st-6th strings that are the problem, light strings are easy to get to compensate for the long scale, it's getting strings heavy enough for the 8th string that's the problem. I use a 68 for the 7th string and a damn 95 for the 8th string. XD
I'm actually a pretty big fan of multiple guitar brands working with artists at the same time, because for me, the ESP Alexi is the absolute ultimate V, but as for single cutaways which I use just as much, while I love the Eclipse, nothing feels quite as good as a Les Paul
Needed this in my life ❤️
For Multiscale, I REALLY don't understand strandberg. 25.5 on the bass strings? is there even a point to it?
I bought a multi scale bass, and it’s so comfortable, but having the 37” low B is really nice.
my E-II came with Aftermaths, so I can say that I experienced the BK-magic; they're incredible.
Devin Townsend is also playing a Kiesel Headless but is still with Framus says he will endorse both, i guess Framus is cool with it? Either way my 2cent is the Kiesel Vader is the sweetest guitar i have ever played aside from that one Vigier that was just as sweet lol, i have 3 Vaders all killer!
Any update on the yin and Yang Sonex builds?
Idk if multiscales are dying out but I like em and just finished building my second multi scale headless guitar
Funny that Both Kirk and Steph are not only working with ESP but with another guitar company, maybe more companies should do that.
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Does it mean we won't be getting 7 string dullahan? :(
When it comes to Kiesel, i dig my zeus to the lvl where i have DC on order and when you're ordering during a promo they really hard to beat imo even though the prices gone up pretty badly over the course of apst few years. Yet thats the problem for the entire industry. Jeff Kiesel himself is huge fan of Deftones and Carpenter so i'm not surprised they anounce that deal, especially few weeks back same happened with Devin Townsend.
I first saw a fan fret guitar on an acoustic played by a phenomenal player named Don Ross. I think it might have been around 2009?
I think a guitar player that wants a multi-scale guitar is a rare animal. As a bassist, I think MS works well, especially for the extended range guys tuning to F0.
I was alarmed to discover that Bare Knuckle makes a few humbucker sized P-90 solutions (think Duncan Phat Cat) for 7 strings. I just wish they weren't so expensive lol.
I have 4 multi-scale guitars (1 is a bass). I love them all. Not dead at all.
I honestly am torn on the whole "classic designs" thing. The guitarists who made want to start playing guitar in the first place were all playing Paul Reed Smith, and I am STILL a massive fan of Paul Reed Smith.
That said, I am VERY MUCH a Jazzmaster guy, and a baritone guy. Yes, my main is a Baritone Jazzmaster.
If multi scale guitars are less common it’s probably because people have realized that the hype is bigger than the purpose. The purpose is valid, just not needed for most players.
I stopped playing extended range because I realized I needed a baritone or multi scale and id prefer to stick to the boomer guitars, american fenders and gibsons are all I own now
The way I'd put it is, the multi-scale market isn't dying out, it's leveling out. Most of the people that were interested have tried it and made up their minds whether or not it's for them.
I'm hoping the slash 2.0 pick ups are coming out as a response to songs like hard skool and hopefully signaling new GNR music soon. The guitar work sounds next level for slash and I think we might hear the most complex music from slash we've ever heard
Not a big fan of these multi thousand dollar guitars, but I was drooling all over myself at that PRS multiscale with the blue flame top.... She was simply stunning, just wow, but I already know that I'm not gonna drop that kind of $ on a guitar...
After owning/return two high end multiscale 8 strings, while they totally make sense, in my experience, they don’t really work out. In my case, half the strings are way too tight. I’d rather just use a baritone.
The 3rd batch of AJ sigs. from Epiphone have apparently caught up with demand, as I see multiple online retailers showing they have them in stock. Why is Hunter saying they're all sold out again? Personally, I don't think these girlyman art editions will do as well. Maybe for collectors it's all the same? When did Epiphone say the plain back ones would be unlimited? This is wishful thinking. The price will be the same regardless.
Seems to me that fanned frets are losing visibility since extended range guitars are too in general, most of the bigger acts right now are playing baritones
A lot of mainstream companies half assed it and made awkward or weird looking multiscales. Strandberg nailed it…not much reason to stray into other scale length options just to be different for the sake of being different.
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I don't remember the main tonal differences between traditional single coils and P90s, but I think one is hotter than the other.
I kinda think Evertune replaces the need for multiscale haha. 25.5 inch scale on my 7 string, and Zero pitch drift chugging open drop A because Evertune lol.
People are flipping out, but Stef didnt “move” to Kiesel. Hes friends with Jeff and likes Kiesels guitars so he’s playing them live too. Not quite like the deals we’ve seen with like Kirk and ESP+Gibson. Also, there HAS been word that those are not signature models and specifically the white one won’t be available to the public as is as they won’t commercially offer the painted fretboard (Jeff stated all this on the livestream they did together). You can however get his Fishmans in that layout since they have the CNC programming for it and they are already partnered with Fishman. So outside of the painted fretboard, you can spec either of those guitars if you want as there’s nothing inherently “special” about them other than that.
TLDR - Stef isn’t a signature artist with Kiesel and there’s no plans right now for a signature model. He’s just friends with Jeff and likes their guitars so he’s going to add them to his live gear.
I’m actually looking to trade my 8string Ibanez for a multiscale 6 or 7
Oh no!
I love headless and multiscale BUT, they have their uses. I don't like multiscale on 6 strings, only on 7 and 8 and I prefer headless for in studio and practice because of ergonomics and ease of use. Constantly smacking a headstock on my desk is annoying. Still prefer a head when playing live.
Slash has been playing Magnatone amps lately, did he leave Marshall???
Every single experience I have had with a Kiesel has been sub par at BEST...
I hear great things about them.... but I guess they ship all the lemons to Australia...
As for Multi-scales, they better not be going anywhere they have changed my life..
I need Rabea’s signature in Sterling form
As much as I love hunter I feel l8ke he's just putting out askgufish eps
Damn what a bummer
multiscale guitars will go the way of 3D movies - seemed an interesting idea at the time
Idk man 3D Mario was actually great
Disagree. 3d movies are dumb while multiscale guitars are pretty genius
Dude, they've been making 3d films since the early 1920's, they ain't going nowhere, neither are fan frets...
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Who ever runs the Evertune social media confirmed they plan to scale down the bass Evertune system which uses single saddles to install into multiscale guitars. I doubt they would invest in that endeavour if market research suggests multi scale is dying.
Devin Townsend is doing the same thing is Steph Carpenter from my understanding? I think it's a sick idea!
I wish Gibson would make a multiscale guitar. An Explorer or V would look killer!
Im currently diggin Bea up from the disgusting 😂
I think multi scale guitars I think have reached their plateau! The people who wanted to try them tried them and those who took them up are the ones still buying them
Nothing is dying out except the idea that there is only one genre needing one kind of guitar. Add to that we know have players with no intention of playing live. Others that collect guitars that decades ago what have collected postage stamps or coins. Some genres are growing enough to be noticed by makers who know that 100% of a niche market can be bigger than trying to be to be all things to all buyers. In short another thousand builders making a Strat clone have finally accepted the glut. Still other makers like Ibanez are making specific niche guitars for most genres.
Multi scale basses are changing the game 100%
I think multi scale will probably be around forever for bass, it makes a lot more sense for bass than guitar
I’ll get a ridge wallet when there’s an Agufish edition
focus went on vacation? :D
I actually think multiscale / fanned frets don't really work in the way that is often claimed they do (which is basically how it ultimately 'should' be more comfortable to play). And why do Ibanez guitars come in fanned frets versions but also normal frets when the concept would be flawless? And what about guitars with frets that are angled the opposite (dare I say 'wrong') direction? The reality is, most people don't like it at all. And you do need to physically play differently on such a guitar. It requires relearning stuff people don't want to put time into I'd say. I own an Ibanez QX52 BKF and honestly kinda regret buying the one with angled frets. It's a great guitar in terms of sound and features. But playability just isn't completely flawless. Having tried it myself, I'd say it's mostly hype and much less so true innovation that works. I'm sure people can argue Ibanez simply 'got it wrong' with their version. But even conceptually the whole 'long string short string' stuff is actually unnecessary for guitars with the string gauges we generally tend to play. Especially on a regular 6 string or 7 string guitar. Guitars already come with custom strings for each string position. You can change them out for something else you prefer.
I didn’t need to relearn anything. It takes 5 mins getting used to and then it feels pretty normal 🤷♂️
The only BKP I’ve played that didn’t impress me was the VHII set, which is to say it was only pretty good, not great.
Kiesel are killing it lately by getting players that are already endorsed by other big brands. Devin Townsend plays a headless T type along with his Framus Stormbenders, Steph Carpenter just got one, and they have a list of "endorsers" on their site that probably aren't exclusive artists. I don't see a problem with this. It's cool that brands are ok being in open relationships.
Multiscale. The 3D of guitar design.
Moving from ESP to... Kiesel feels like such a self L like why would you do that
I really hope multiscales stay in production, I just played a schecter silver mountain 7 ms two days ago and it was pretty nice
He didn’t “move” anywhere. He’s still a ESP signature artist. He’s friends with Jeff Kiesel and likes their guitars, so he’s just going to be playing their guitars live alongside his ESPs.
Well, they shouldn't be.
Multiscale isn't new its been around for a along time the only reason its not bigger is cost
Multi scale is definitely not dying lmfao 🤣
My thoughts on multi-scale guitars. Most guitarists may not be a “fan”, but them disappearing is nothing to “fret” about either. 😅
@@agufish A laugh from the man himself! My work is done. 🤘😁
Multiscales will probably settle more with the basses.
ESP seem to be unafraid of other companies. If Gibson isn't shaking them up with Kirk being a dual guy (he is...) I don't think keisel is gonna scare them.
Team 24 Karat Gold 🙌
Carpenter tone = his perception of Earth.
I feel like most multiscale users are at most doing that prog djent demo stuff, and that community is getting eaten away at by all the Thall Humanity’s Last Breath and Loathe fans who are getting baritones and Digitech Drop/Downtune VSTs instead.
Multiscale is more of a bass thing than on guitar. On guitar it's mostly a gimmick.
multiscale is not dying. i just bought a dinky!
"Triptych, someones been playing Elden Ring"
Idk if that was an obvious joke, but that made my blood boil 😅 using a screenshot of Harry Potter and name-dropping Elden Ring, even tho they are only in GoW.
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Damn dude, I love your channel. And especially your response to complete useless morons chatter. ❤❤❤😊
You say you don't like headless guitars yet you love Gibsons.
(I kid)
lmao, that's a violation but I'll allow it 😂
@@agufish 30+ years of playing and I've still never had a Gibson with a headstock break.