A Sure Way To Spot A Fake Martial Arts School [Funny]
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2019
- McDojo's are a fascinating phenomenon that some people fall for. In order to raise our consciousness on how to spot a McDojo and how to avoid it in this Martial Arts Journey video we will take a look at a list of 40 points which distinguish McDojo type of martial arts schools.
It has been brought to my attention that this list was in fact created by Jesse Enkamp - a fellow UA-camr and martial artist, instead of the person that I credited this list to (unless there is a misunderstanding, which could be). The original list is here: www.karatebyjesse.com/93-sign...
Check out the more serious video which inspired this episode: • A Checklist For Fake M...
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Or check out the latest episode with one of the best MMA coaches John Kavanagh in his new UA-cam series, that I have a hand in creating :) • John Kavanagh On Failu...
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You’re a fcktard. There’s nothing wrong with having a phone number on the back of your dojo’s shirt it’s called advertising and marketing in order to gain new students.
Shane with fight tips will beat the fu*ck out of you don’t disrespect him.
That’s not a block fcktard he’s striking with his forearms but okay. Pretty sure a block has limited mobility and doesn’t require one to swing their arm across like a hook idiot.
Pretty sure there’s no fake martial arts schools that require you to compete because it’s honorable and you’re just making stuff up in that fcktard voice of yours but okay
You might find this story strange. I hyper extended my elbow practicing Karate, and the more I tried, the more painful it was, so that was the end of my Karate practice. My job at the time required a lot of rotational hand movements, and the nerve damage in my elbow made my life miserable. Constant pain. I attended a Kung Fu school, and the teacher showed me the opening movements of a Tai Chi form and the breathing associated with it. In two weeks, my elbow pain was gone and never returned (still have the injury some 40 years later though). I still practice those movements as I am way too old to be still trying to fight (talk about ridiculous). Can you learn how to fight using that Tai Chi movement? I would have to say not at all considering the current state of the art and how it's practiced. Can you get some pain relief and help heal injuries? Yes! You seem to think that fighting ability is the sole criteria for judging martial arts, yet the vast majority of the practitioners never get into fights or do any actual fighting while sparring. I was always told that Kung Fu was for health, exercise, and lastly to learn some self defense. I was told that Karate was a means to perfect one's self (and I would say that it works as it has helped me be more focused and goal oriented). In my Kung Fu practice I was told that how good you are at the self defense part depended on how much fighting you did. Not a strange concept considering if you want to be good at tennis, you actually have to play. I'm actually happy for all those fat, old, out of shape people in the video actually putting down the french fries and trying to do something. Are you actually going to put the artificial standard of fighting ability on them and their practice? They are too old and out of shape.
What I hate is those belt colors on them, and the very low standards that mark achievement. It's the instructors that issued those belts that are the problem, not the students, but that problem is the commercialism of the art, and not necessarily the art itself. I really wish everyone would just stop placing the totally artificial standard of fighting ability on whether a martial art is "good" or not. Not everyone doing martial arts can be, should be, or even desires to be a fighter. At the same time, the traditional martial arts need to be honest about what market they serve and what they can do for the practitioner. You can laugh at Chi gung all you want. There's plenty out there to laugh at and I don't care if you make fun of it, but I will say it's helped me considerably.
My teacher, who was an actually very experienced kung fu man, once dismissed class by “showing us how to handle four opponents at once.” He has us come at him, knocked one guy down and then ran past him and out the door, got into his car and ran away. It was absolutely hilarious, but he made a great point.
ha ha love it
Lmao! What was it like the next time you guys met him? Or was that really the end hahah
Next class he just thanked us for cleaning up the room and closing up for him, we just proceeded normally the next day. He was a really goofy dude.
Mine did the same. He said if you’re not close enough to grab me I can run the other way.
Actually realistic, more than opponent requires bitch fu
I spoke rudely to my grandmaster and he struck me with the Dueling Red Dragon Fist in the chest. The gentle blow destroyed my Chi energy and will result in my heart failing in 70 -80 years, which gives me a long time to think about my transgression.
Only a true warrior deserves a quick death.
Michael
Beautiful!! 😂
Oh man that sounds serious you'll never be able to learn that one glowing invincible first technique my master teaches at gold belt and it only costs $99.99 per hour to learn sucks to be you
Michael 😂
If my students talked that way to me, I'd bonk them on the head gently. We are one big family. Sounds like this "grandmaster" is stuck on himself.
I’m fucking weak
Never related so much to a video. I attended a McDojo throughout my teens and bought into all of it, didn't realise it was all fake until I found a real boxing school years later. The false sense of empowerment felt like a real betrayal as a teen with low self esteem.
In particular;
1. The instructors spoke all the time about certain "Dim Mak" techniques that were only available to the red belt masters.
7. We regularly stood in a circle doing "chi breathing techniques", then slapped our palms together, then pulled and pushed our palms together to "feel the Chi ball forming between them". And we all believed it, fully.
9. Even though we trained with foam bats with steel rods inside, I always went to school the day after with bruises on my forearms, but when I mentioned it seemed stupid to block a bat with your arm, the instructor said we were "building callouses" which were "basically bone armour". I thought this was cool, and totally bought it.
10. This was my class all over, we all stood in a line, in belt rank order, while one person faced us. We approached them one by one in rank order, punched towards their head, stopping just short, then stood there, still, while the person did X number of combo attacks on us.
11. We were constantly told our arm would break if we resisted, so we should just fall to build the partners confidence.
12. Both instructors were overweight and sat on a chair in the corner while we sweat our asses off in the warm up.
13. We had to bow to both of them and address them as "sensei", without question.
15. Both instructors were "too deadly" to perform themselves, so the lower dan Black belts did the actual teaching.
16. The instructors both had semi-mythical status and it was assumed they would annihilate us in a basic sparring match.
20. Both admitted they had never had a real full contact fight, but that this made them better because they were "wise enough" to avoid it, and practiced their chi instead.
21. This one was hilarious. Our McDojo had a technique called the "Nidan Flick". Only taught to 2nd Dan Black Belts. There was so much reverence and mysticism around this move, you would think it unleashed a tidal wave of destructive chi. Turns out it was literally making a claw with your hand, and running it backwards across the opponents face, hoping a finger might hit their eye and disorient them. The cringiest moment I remember was when a 2nd Dan performed this Nidan Flick, backhanding his opponent across the face, and yelling UUSSS! as he did. The guy leapt backwards as though he were kicked in the chest, and "couldn't see" for the next hour. And we were all completely awe struck ._.
23. There was a move they called the Half Shoulder Belt Throw, which only worked when the instructor did it, and took so long to set up your opponent would have to be asleep to carry it out effectively.
24. So relatable. Black belts would basically backflip themselves when thrown and scream dramatically, but white belts wouldn't move and the instructor would look at them annoyed and coerce them subtly until they fell in line.
26. Yeah, 2-3 years for a black belt usually, regardless of skill.
29. All gradings were 10-15 minutes.
30. Not one person I recall didn't pass, even the guy who literally couldn't pick me up for a hip throw.
31. I'll never forget those guy who got his Junior Black belt at 14, and then refused to join the senior class because he would have to start again at white belt. At 17, he was "teaching" the kids, throwing them round and feeling all powerful.
33. It was 3 months for your first belt, 3 months for the next, 6 months for the next, and so on, regardless of actual skill.
36. We would be made to repeat the same move for days to do it just so, even if it was useless.
38. The senseis would dramatically scream UUSSS when performing any move.
39. We were constantly told that our training would take longer and be more technical than MMA, but once trained we would "annihilate" any MMA fighter.
40. We often did a thing called the "gauntlet", where we would be surrounded by 6 attackers, usually all armed, but they would only attack one at a time, and also freeze after they almost made contact with you.
They also had white uniforms for students, black ones masters, and red ones for grand masters.
Luckily I found a great boxing school years later, no uniforms, no ranks or belts, no gradings, just turn up and spar and workout, built a lot of confidence and got in shape from the training there.
well you're really lucky.
Actually you can make your bones stronger by hitting them
But it may have risks like bone problems in the future if you do it too much
jujitsu aikido judo karate and bjj those are fake martial arts
@@michaelscofield3287 no they are not, just aikido is fake. The problem is that most of traditional martial arts have become a sport instead of a real practice to defend yourself. Karate for example was made in Okinawa with the purpose of make your body a weapon. But when it arrived to occident it became a sport. Now in most dojos they teach you how to fight with points systems and that is unrealistic. But Karate and all that things are not fake itself, just the sport version of it, or if is teached in a bad way. Bjj is used in mma and is very useful, if the fight is 1v1 and withouth weapons of course.
@@hasailard5472 I think all fake
I like the point about the "grandmasters." As a friend once said: "there are more grandmasters in New York City than there are in all of Japan." He also cited how some instructors were third dans when they boarded their planes to America, but became sixth dans getting off the planes.
I wouldn't be surprised if I found out there are more fighting schools in the US than Japan in general, because of our infamous insecurities.
@@googiegress7459Or maybe because our country is, oh, idk, like 10 times fucking bigger than theirs.
@@crupt1023 Of course you have a great point. The US is about 333m population and Japan 125m. I'm sure there are small US dojos out there that are in low-pop areas that serve few students, so our geographic size plays a part.
I still think the craziness of the general US population has a strong effect.
@@googiegress7459 also the fact that most martial arts arent japanese. of course the us would have more then japan also 3x population
"The techniques work perfectly against the black belts, but do not work against beginners, because the beginners son't know yet when they are supposed to fall".
The best description I have yet seen.
UpdateDotExe This was what pissed a lot of people off my first year on a wrestling team lol.
@@aidanmcwhirter2612 Though wrestling is actually a legit style xD.
Multi Meter Yeah but we were learning some not so legit moves and we had some not so legit wrestlers
The sensei of my aikido school put "traditionnal" in the name of the school, but his techniques worked on me while I was just a tourist player, so in what box do I put him ? ^^
Very painful technique at the time but I felt nothing anymore the following day, at least he seemed to correctly dose out the move.
@@lazyshoggy well did you try not standing still?
I learned how to make a man's head explode with my fingertips. Master Kenshiro says it's way too dangerous for the Octagon and should only be applied in a post-nuclear wasteland.
I can slice people up like ham using only my fingertips . We should meet up sometime
i can't make it through air port screening check points anymore because my whole body is now a deadly weapon
the death touch is legit, but dont expect awesome blood explosions
Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru!
@@robotjox77 you obviously watched baki lmao
I'd say the Tae Kwon Do I did when I was kid hits about 15% to 25% of these. To be fair, our instructor was pretty honest that the class was meant for exercise and self discipline. And given the emphasis on basic kicks, I'd honestly so it was closer to 'themed aerobic kickboxing'.
The self defense portion of the class was always about, essentially, avoiding dangerous situations, and if you did end up in a dangerous situation, finding a way to disengage and run. It was very much an 'after school activity' McDojo rather than a 'bullshit mystic arts' McDojo.
And I think as long as people know the difference, which I'd figured out by the time I was twelve, it can be a fine way to get some exercise.
That's not really a mcdojo though. That's why I say there are legit schools that do most of this..
This is my taekwondo experience too, I think it’s common
My Sensei - Si My Dong - says that our style is the deadliest.
Too fucking funny
HELPPPP OMG YALL TO FUNNY 😭
The saddest point to me is that there are, or at least were, some legitimate karate "masters" who's real dojo turned into a McDojo over time simply because it's easier to make $$$.
This comment is hitting me straight in the feels due to relativity
Gotta pay the bills somehow.
That's capitailsm for you, ruining everything is nice and good since the industrial revolution.
@@luisa146 I'm a big fan of capitalism, I'm just not all about people trying to shortcut their way to success.
Mickey Dickkener well, it's the capitalist system that compels and encourages people to do whatever it takes to make profits. Just throwing it out there, not looking to start a debate lol have nice day :)
*My sensei taught me*
That 100 push-ups
100 sit-ups
100 squats
and 10 kilometer run is the way to beat people
_WITH ONE PUNCH_
It's true but, fair warning, you'll lose your hair.
And lose all your passion to fight and improve
And never turn your AC on
@@pet-r120 you are absolutely correct! This is essential!
But you have to do it EVERY SINGLE DAY!!! or it won't work. :/
An old friend of mine was a brown belt. He once asked his wife to throw a punch so he could practice this new block he learnt and she knocked him out with a single upper cut 😂
At least, he learned a lesson ^^
He was expecting his wife to throw a slow straight punch and leave her arm in the air while he execute 5-6 combos with zero resistance
I’m sorry for laughing, how is he doing now? 😂😂😂
Hey, this sounds like she was just waiting for her chance to show him!!!!
He must be very happy to have a wife who can defend herself !
a distinction id like to make: in kung fu doing qigong exercises and other qi/chi related things doesn’t necessarily make the place you’re learning at a mcdojo, only if they say you can use it to do some shit like magical energy blasts against an opponent
it’s also a focusing exercise that actually works in a way but has nothing to do with chi: it’s about anxiety and attention on your technique, it’s calming you and getting you “in the sone” mentally
"Today students, we will be practicing HADOUKEN"
#deadlycranekick
@@FansFAX We laugh, but there are a couple of high-level MMA knockouts to it now. Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida have KOed opponents with the crane kick (mae geri).
@@elenchus mae geri isn't a crane kick. It's a straight front kick.
@@halenball-vant1772 the so-called crane kick (i.e. the fourth move in saifa) is just a different way to deliver mae geri. In English, we always called the jumping version a skip kick.
Self-taught over here!
⬇↘➡👊
How dare you insult Grand Master Uncle Joey.
*kicks bucket
😂😂
Don't fuck with Koko. Ask Sister fuckin Hyacinth
Oh please, he's not Steve Blackman!
Hey brother how are you is this a great dojo please
www.sskanz.com/
I want to learn shitoryu karate. i know i can review by looking at your critea of what goods or bad dojo but that will take time and want to knoe the answer fast as want to start asap. I get bullied 24 7 by co workers and others. Where is mental have to use mental thoughness if physical physical thougness
Thanks & regards
Nikunj Manoj Majithia
Huge respect for a dude who was able to see through the lies and begin training for excellence rather than an ego.
As a BJJ fighter, I find this absolutely hilarious. Not only are my coaches completely hands-on and don't tolerate laziness, but they're not afraid to hurt you, and even give you a heads up while we're practicing that yes, you will get fucked up sometimes, and that's just how it is. The exhausting warmups we're put through is crazy, and to know that some don't even do that is mind boggling.
Also yes, I am still a no-striped white belt, but in my defense, I've only been going for like, a couple months
BJJ is possibly one of the most realistic modern martial art, because it doubles as a combat sport. And one where you can go 100% in sparring, which is super rare.
My sensei taught me it takes 18 episodes to summon enough power for one spirit bomb.
King kai?
And i spend one night at the vodka bar for an awsome "spirit bomb"
I yelled for at least 2 hours duelling Kamehameha with my classmates
Hey brother how are you is this a great dojo please
www.sskanz.com/
I want to learn shitoryu karate. i know i can review by looking at your critea of what goods or bad dojo but that will take time and want to knoe the answer fast as want to start asap. I get bullied 24 7 by co workers and others. Where is mental have to use mental thoughness if physical physical thougness
Thanks & regards
Nikunj Manoj Majithia
Another point to add: the master has, at least once in his life, taught his exotic style to a VIP such as an actor, politician or another very influencing person...but he is not allowed to talk about it because it is secret and protected to confidentiality.
Good one
Especially if he taught Chuck Norris
2:41
LMFAO gold
truly makes me remember aikido as a 7 y.o. naive kid, where my teacher would push my hand, and I'll be like "???" untill he says "don't resist or I might break it"
Also in retrospective it sounds more like a threat rather than a warning
I remember once someone asked our sensei what was the deepest philosophy he knew,he answered.
"Mankind happiest feeling is happiness."
My mind is blown..
A true Ice-Cream Koan.
Ahahaha damn!
I’ve actually seen “Dojo’s” advertise
“Power Ranger training” and
“Ninja turtle training”
depending upon which is more popular at the time.
That gym must be the real deal...
Kun Fu panda
I have more respect for that than people fronting like they are actually teaching you something you can protect yourself with.
To be honest, even if it never says as much that's pretty much the type of person 80% of of TMAs try and attract: delusional people who want to become Ninjas/Power Rangers/Samurais/ Jason Bourne. Never underestimate the human animaks capacity for delusion.
I don't even mind that kind of stuff. At least they are so obvious, you could almost call it openly admitting they are not serious matial arts
Hey brother how are you is this a great dojo please
www.sskanz.com/
I want to learn shitoryu karate. i know i can review by looking at your critea of what goods or bad dojo but that will take time and want to knoe the answer fast as want to start asap. I get bullied 24 7 by co workers and others. Where is mental have to use mental thoughness if physical physical thougness
Thanks & regards
Nikunj Manoj Majithia
Dude, can you imagine a school that teaches how to actually fight like Ryu (hadoken and shoryuken and all), everyone calls it Bullshido, but then they release video evidence of fireballs and fire kicks destroying buildings?!
🤣🤣
Everyone quits because the hadouken and tatsumaki are techniques you learn later so they think it's a mcdojo and leave before they get the chance to learn it.
I'd quit my job and become Dan
That'd be funny!
@@ev5837 good luck with the hadouken
Where I taught Judo, there was a Jui-Jutsu instructor with a 6 year old black belt. He asked me if I would call the 6 year old Sensei!!?!? He had a certificate on the wall that he was a 10 degree black belt. He had so many 9th degree students, he HAD to promote himself to 15th degree black belt. At the end of the year, they let me go because I was only a 4th degree black belt!!?!?!😮😮😮😮
Everytime I watch this kind of videos I feel a certain self-shame for not dedicating fully and abandoning my Karate classes. I was young, 12-17 and like, having fun was more important and dedicating to a martial art IS hard and I didn't want to compromize, but everytime I see this McDojos and I remember my sensei, a 67 year old man, warming up with us, doing actual sparring, actually teaching us, connecting to us, treating us as almost family while maintatning respect and a healthy hierarchy, how great it felt when I finally learned a new Kata and how J felt even better when I finally saw I could do it well, but still had more to learn cause J was still not dedicating fully. I feel sad for people who fall into McDojos cause not only a true dojo teaches you ACTUAL self-defense, it also gave me true friends, very thrustable people and a healthy envrionment I should've never abandoned. I remember in all this time, I got to green belt, but I always felt like I wasn't "good enough" or "deserving" of it cause I wasn't dedicating myself as I should, not like in an unhealthy way, but it was such a good Dojo, I felt bad for not giving my all. Also, no black belts under 24 haha The only ones were a 26 year old who was training since like 4 and her father was a 50-ish black belt and the youngest with a high rank was a 13 yr old with a brown belt, which also had a 40-ish black belt mom and trained since 4 years old(The girl, not the mom)
If they claim to be too dangerous for the ring they're a McDojo.
What if they claim their martial art is not effective in a ring because most ofntheir techniques are forbiden in mma/kickboxing?
@@gingercore69 I would say they don't teach many fundamental effective fighting principles, skills, or techniques.
@@RicoMnc well, i dont know about that... No one doubts the LINE system works(since it has been used for decades by the US Marine corps on the battlefield and their new system includes everything line had but added basic mma stuff to make it less lethal(yeah, they added mma to have less violent options) because of how LINE was designed, almost nothing they trained was allowed in the UFC 1 rulesets... (since most lf their pre defined combinations had eye gougin or eye raking) so... The line version of 1-2 lowkick(basic kickboxing combination) was grab(the nuts) twist, pull(as in trying to rip the nuts off) and most of the techniques ended with a strike to the eyes, a lock to the arm, a kick to the head, a sweep and a stomp to the face... Im not saying mma is not effective... But from that, to claim that the main martial art of the marine corps for decades that they used in war is not effective is a little bit of a stretch...
@@gingercore69 "What if they claim their martial art is not effective in a ring because most ofntheir techniques are forbiden in mma/kickboxing?
"
Then they're either delusional or lying.
"No one doubts the LINE system works"
"The line version of 1-2 lowkick(basic kickboxing combination) was grab(the nuts) twist, pull(as in trying to rip the nuts off) and most of the techniques ended with a strike to the eyes, a lock to the arm, a kick to the head, a sweep and a stomp to the face... Im not saying mma is not effective... But from that, to claim that the main martial art of the marine corps for decades that they used in war is not effective is a little bit of a stretch..."
I can't really speak to whatever LINE is, but what you're describing wouldn't work in real life.
@@gingercore69 Most Marines are not trained to be hand to hand self defense experts. Their battle field strengths are in group cohesion, coordination and fighting with their battles rifles with air, artillery, and other support.
The average Marine with only his basic and combat hand-to-hand training would have a difficult time in the cage with someone in good physical shape who has trained at a serious MMA dojo for 6 months.
There are Marines and other soldiers who continue to train and participate in fighting competitions while serving, but that is beyond their initial training. Not all do this.
The Marine mythos is earned and to be respected and celebrated, but not all of it would apply in the ring or cage.
I'm sure an honest conversation with an actual Marine who has seen both combat and MMA competition would reveal this.
You forgot: it's permissible to wear socks during training
Good one
you can't forget those weirdos, the wrestlers. they even wear shoes *shudder*
What is bad about socks? Dont they protect your feets? (Non-MA-dude here)
@@updatedotexe slippage
Hey I wear socks when I train (to trick people into thinking that I'm a normal person.)
The "osu" one doesn't really apply to some styles like Kyokushin because it's literally part of the training, it's also present in japanese karate itself (though not in okinawan karate)
same, i feel like "osu", bows and other showing respect/greeting things add to discipline & vibe and are a good thing at the end of the day. would be hella confusing and just nod or say "mhm" when teacher tells you to do something
A contraction of the phrase “Oshi shinobu”, Osu was used in my dojo to make it clear you understood instruction, show respect to instructors and seniors, and encourage yourself and others to give your best effort. I’m 70, no longer train, but still say it.
In judo and BJJ is usual to hear that
Yeah, this was incorrect by the channel
@@rah938 At 69 and training for 52 years and counting, I still say it. It's my dog's command to pay attention.
My oldest son did get his black belt in shotokan at 16, he started at age 5 and trained hard to achieve. His certificate is a junior award .
How much did you pay until he turned black belt?
@@dotdotdotdotdash Why does that matter?
@@lrdisco2005 because it's ridiculous for a child to receive a black belt even if they practiced for 11 years, it's about what they truly deserve, not the time spent.
@@dotdotdotdotdash Says you, away and troll somewhere else. Let me guess you are at least 9th Dan.
@@lrdisco2005 No, I'm a bjj white belt actually, but what does that have to do with my argument? I just think it's ridiculous western martial art gyms to graduate students for the sake of their own gain, back in the old days you would be called a master when you were able to beat everyone up which required decades of practice and knowledge in combat, you would be a black belt when you actually deserved it and had the knowledge and skills for so. These days, on the other hand, the so called "masters" are fat dudes that only get out of the couch to teach class that probably never actually fought before. And the same goes for the so called "black belts", specifically in karate... ofc there are exceptions and a lot of karate dudes actually know their shit, look at Lyoto Machida for example...but if a child is able to achieve the title of mastery something is sketchy
Yes, the only legitimate and proper grandmaster is master ken from enterthedojo.
No other real person can do 200 hits in one second.
What about Jesse the founder and grandmaster of MMA (Mexican Martial Arts)???
Oss!
@@baragon_4409 There is no founder or grandmaster of MMA. It's a nebulous "style" and has been around for thousands of years.
@@elenchus yes Jesse from mexican martial arts
@@baragon_4409 "elenchus no stupid Jesse from mexican martial arts"
I don't think I could have reasonably inferred that from the mere mention of MMA. I thought you were trying to make an astute, albeit misguided, application of these how to spot a McDojo rules to the modern founders of MMA, people like Carlos Gracie, since that'd violate one of Rokas' rules.
Straight to the point?! No intro?? Respect man, thank you!!
Well, its his channel...
Yup, intros and watermarks are cancer!
@D core Shut up dickhead
@D core he made good points idiot.
OH LAWD! You included several of your own old videos. So much respect for your growth, sir. I'm proud of you.
I was once in a taekwando mcdojo but I was lucky enough that one day my future teacher came in and watched a few classes and He struck a conversation with my dad to get him to teach me instead of staying in the class. In the mcdojo I progressed 3 belts in a couple of weeks with one day a week classes while in with the real teacher I progressed one belt in 4 years with 2 classes a week. Teachers where even open minded enough to even teacher other forms of martial arts as well and sparred every week. I’m so glad that I got out of that mcdojo because it nothing more than for the teacher to get money and for the kids to get an ego
I remember seeing some small kid standing up to his bully back when I was in school. Said he practiced Kung fu or something. Got headbutted, taken to the ground and then pummelled by this hulking monster of a fourteen year old.
Props to the small kid for standing up for himself though. That took balls.
If you see Steven Seagal inside teaching, it is a McDojo.
And it probably sells actual burgers too
Or just a regular McDonald’s
Unless Anderson Silva is involved. In which case, it's just a comedy show.
That’s not true. He taught me how to toss a elephant yesterday.
Actually it is a CIA mission
The more I look at this video, the more I realise you are describing my Aikido class I used to take when I was like 9 or something... 10 years later and I still don't know why my dad wanted us to go to that dojo on saturday's... I went from a white belt to a yellow one in less than a year (because I wanted to quit before the end, started in like september but quit in april I believe).
Oh whew. None of these apply to my dojo. My dojo has a big yellow neon “M” in front the dojo building. Its legit.
I went to a dojo that did several of these when I was a teenager. Refused to spar, taught more theory than application, you weren't allowed to question the instructor, and discouraged MMA. Glad I saw through the bullshit quickly and left.
jlotus100 same also since I put up a challenge against the “sensei” he threatened to break my nose (I’m a football player for my school and I try to be gentle in order to learn more technique than just straight up lifting and slamming which I did after he threatened to break my nose cause I asked a few quistions about the technique anyways he was overweight and few of us warmed up by stretching her he never did the week and a half (3 days cause Tuesday and thursdays)I was there. Ok so looking back at this made me vent a little anyways I joined wresling team and point is to this story is never let one bad experience ruin some the funnest things to do for sport
Ezekiel Phillips the sensei in my dojo talks about mental toughness and he tells us to do 10 squat kicks, 10 push ups, 10 sit ups etc..
I trained at a McDojo. The Sensei was a total fraud and con-man but I didn't realize it. Early on in my stay, there was a perfect confluence of people like me, about half a dozen of us, that wanted to train, wanted to learn how to fight, wanted to do the work and willing to do what was necessary to get good. In essence we gradually made the place a legitimate training facility. The wannabes fell away and were replaced with real students that were more attracted to the practical training they saw us doing than the "traditional" crap the Sensei was doing. So we basically took over and the Sensei became a prop, an empty figurehead that signed diplomas.
@Dr Diablory Yes, your assumption is correct. I was a novice when I signed up. As to your point, some of it was us teaching each other. One fellow had some boxing training, another had a black belt in Judo. So we would train what we had, then try it out on each other. We kind of cheated a bit too by going to the fraud sensei's instructor directly, who actually was supremely well skilled and a good fighter. Not all of us could get to these places so it was all brought to the place we all could go and more or less trained each other. It was a lot of trial and error and a lot of hard work. But also a lot of fun!
@@InformationIsTheEdge So he earned money and you guys did the work. Lmfao you guys are chumps.
@@deltan6212 I'm sure that is the message you got. At least you're trying.
@@InformationIsTheEdgeyeah, no ones gonna be impressed by the lack of critical thinking your glorified group of ballerinas has.
You can be as legitimate as you think you are, but you're still paying McConman for use of his building
@@deltan6212 You would have had a LOT of fun playing ballerina with us. Well, we with you, at any rate.
No intros no explaining no nothing, straight to the point I love it
A kid that was probably about 13 or 14 came to my local MMA school a few days ago. There was some light sparring at the end and, to put it gently, he didn't do well at all. I thought it was just because maybe he was new to martial arts. Turns out he had gotten a black colored belt from a korean daycare. I almost felt bad for him when I heard that.
I used to train in certain Japanese martial art and about 80% of these points apply to that art and school lol.
You missed out the best one which is "MMA isn't realistic because I'd just kick them in the balls."
tbf: no martial art or self defence system is truly realistic because you are not afraid of being killed if you fuck it up. that doesn't mean a trained MMA fighter wouldn't be able to absolutely murder 99% of opponents tho
Oh man, I used to train at a karate school like this 😂 I'm glad I found a great community with the Kickboxing and BJJ guys.
@@wilkeesia7710so you left karate for karate without the te
bjj and kickboxing is amazing but there are karate classes that are 100% serious I mean the Wonderkid and GSP are karate black belts@@wilkeesia7710
I love when the powerful grandmaster tries to show you a special technique and when he tries it fails, then he stares waiting for your acting
@@utoepius4577 let the kid have some fun on the internet
I'd move to a legitimate martial arts school.
when I was in pre-school, I signed up for the Judo class (past school time) and we spent the entire year "practicing" the same grapple and boys weren't allowed to take down girls. I became a gray belt in the end of the year... didn't bother signing up in first grade, even I could tell something was WAY off with the method
I'm absolutely shocked that none of this applied to my ATA dojo. (Former)
Took me 6 years to get my first Black Belt.
Our teachers were very casual and hands on.
They encouraged taking other martial arts and doing tournaments. We did full contact sparring and how well you did was accounted for in your belt test. A belt test took well over an hour.
Overall they were just good teachers. Very soft spoken and liked to give nicknames. But during demonstrations it was like they were possessed by demons. My dad once told me, "Jesus. I didn't think kicks could be useful in a fight. . . I think she could split me in half with that one"
i still do ATA, and with the fact that ATA uses camo belts i hope it’s not a mcdojo 😭
My sensei taught me how to kill a person in 1 second
It works!
Tho i need an item/weapon we call a "gun"
Your sensei is a weakling. My sensei taught me a lot of techniques that kill a person without using any weapons. But I can only kill myself with those.
....and a good lawyer
I use a glockchucks it basically nunchucks with glocks. Thrice as deadly as your so called “gun”
Hahahaa
Never heard of such a weapon. Sounds very powerful though if it can kill in 1 second.
I Disagree with your video, I'm a "17th degree master" I currently hold 3 belt's and working on the "golden belt" which is a senior level instructor master, also I was required to register as a "69° tactical grand master of chaos" I also created and instruct the "AH SO TECHNIQUE" which is related to the ancient "SHANGHAI MOVE" of the 19th century
Funny
That's the kind of boasting seen in the back of comic book advertisements, along with the" Atlas bodybuilding system"..lol
What're you a cartoon character?!
How many episodes of dragon ball were you in?
@@victoriablack355 He on the whole Frieza saga
I'm 30 dan , I have 3 10dan black belts belts that came from my basement
My instructor was this massive strong black guy who's palms felt like rocks. He used to be a bodyguard for the rapper Yelawolf. He used to make us do knuckles push-ups for misbehaving even when we trained on the asphalt and were 8 years old. My older brother trained for 6-7 years and won half a dozen tournaments and was still 2 belts away from a Black belt. I think it was a pretty good dojo, I miss going there 😢😔
The cross training one made me think of an older karate school local to me loooooong ago.
I was pretty much shamed and told I couldn't become a returning student because I went to a Hapkido school for some time (I was only a teenager trying to figure out what I was into most).
1:07
You fool! He slowed it down massively for demonstration purposes. In a real fight he'd be moving at mach 10 or higher.
no, he actually was moving at mach 10, but the camera was in super super super slow motion
@@skkadoot9533 bruh that technique so powerfull
LOL
@@iklavyagaming8843 LOL you mean the pointless dance awkwardly around the opponents crotch technique?
@@Enkarashaddam ur a fool! that technique is insane, he actually hit him 8000times but it was so fast. the guy's legs was shattered and his dick fell off after
They do nothing but forms/katas, sparring is too dangerous, size doesn't matter if you learn our style, you can't modify technique because old masters did it that way
Good ones
Size matters, my ex-girlfriend made that pretty clear :'(
@@emilianozapata127 Ouch! Or... was it ouch to you, or ouch to her... :'P
@@finnishfatman Suffice to say that it was like parking a golf cart inside an airplane hangar. She left saying "I need someone to broaden my horizons"
@@emilianozapata127 😂
I studied at a useless dojo once. I was there 6 months
About 3 months in, a ex Ukranian military guy taught me some sambo techniques. I spared with my sensei's most advanced student (his brother) and he had no idea how to counter some holds i learned in three 2 hour sessions. I was told the moves were "too dangerous" and not to use them. I then realised the class was useless and stopped wasting my money
Btw, the only reason I stayed as long as I did was because friends did it with me. It was a Karate and Aikido class.
I ended up switching to wrestling and boxing, but id like to try judo and jui jitsu.
I always hate when a teacher says they can't or won't spar bc it's "too dangerous" if you're THAT good you should be able to control it.
There is no shame whatsoever in being an instructor, sparring with a student, and that student catching you with something, in fact I'm thrilled if a new student catches me in an arm bar or gets a good hard leg kick in on me bc
A.) Reminds me not to be too cocky
B.) Shows me they are picking up the skills effectively
Ex we had a new student come in who was a wrestler all his life and I could NOT take him down for the life of me, so I made it a point to train with him as often as I could bc he not only learned our stuff but I learned how to handle people who are good at wrestling
Don't ever let your instructors ego get in the way of development for you or your students
hey no pain no gain, you spar getting swing by a foam covered stick, learnt to catch it and endure the pain
#9 makes me chuckle. When I was like 7 or 8 I took a karate class and the teacher asked one of the students "What do you do if someone comes at you with a bad" and the student put his arm up to block and the teachers response was "No dummy. You get the hell out of the way."
I love how there's is 0 bullcrap in the begonning of the video like "hello guy's today we will be going over blah blah blah".he understands that we read the title and know why were here. No sponsorship. No bullcrap. Straight into the video. 0 time wasted.
The begonning? Is that before or after the beninging?
It's the benginging
It’s also most likely a McDojo if there are “Hulk Hands” used in the training equipment.
Oh god hahahahahahahahaha!!!
I actually _saw_ those at one “McDojo”. I noped out of there.
I love my Taekeondo dojo. I recently just had my first sparring match and it was against my instructor and he was teaching me through the whole thing
0:58 That is the funniest shit I've ever seen! Does he really think his opponent is just going to stand there and wait for him to finish all his cool moves?
It's like he's linking combos in a fighting game. 🤣😄🤣
He is doing some "cool stuff" but none of that shit is going to stop/hurt your opponent... You'll just do 1 or 2 of that until you get a knee to the head
Don’t worry he’s using Za Warudo
I showed up at a Korean daycare with my friend during sparring day...I ran a double leg on a 7th dan black belt and got kicked out
Not every hero wears a cape
Lol
@@neshotsharif773 You're right, they wear rashguards, lol
Korean daycare? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jo Quin - most likely he’s referring to a MA “school” which mainly exists for parents to be rid of their kids for a few hours...
*The 12th dan shit pissed me off.* My father helped to train me and I'm barely a beginner but I remember him telling me that people are usually given 10th dan when they die honorably for their art. These are the old founders of their traditional styles or their close students.
This list speaks to me on a spiritual level.
I've been in SO many McDojos.
UA-cam recommendation on point 👌
I'm happy to report that I scored a zero on this checklist. After 26 years of training tkd and now running my own school these past 4 years, I try to mix in what works from all the practical styles (bjj, boxing, Muay Thai, etc). I'm a little guy and maybe not the toughest or best teacher out there, but it's comforting to know that I can honestly say none of these apply to the way we train.
Yay.
i got a 2, one because no one fails testing (my instructor makes sure everyone is 100% ready to test before they do) and 2 because im going to receive my black belt in 4 years (worked my ass off an was able to 540 kick by green)
the whole chi thing can actually be useful…just not in the way claimed by these owners: take away the dramatic claims and it’s really just calming exercise that you get the kids focusing their anxieties on learning and not on being hurt or hurting others or anything else.
It’s so to click on a video and the video goes straight to the point! Thanks for that.
this just solidifies what the organization is that I didn't notice till a year before I quit!! thank you for posting this!!
Number 24 actually makes a lot of sense in videos of these McDojos. You never see anyone below a black belt in demos of these “forbidden” techniques
Also the clip during number 26 is just…something. I practice Changquan and our gym/group would occasionally have demos at our local mall. If we moved even the tiniest bit out of sync or if someone even so much as wiggles by adjusting their footing, our coach would make us repeat it over and over again. And that’s just our green belt group, and we have audio cues to help guide us when to move. The other groups above us don’t have that helper.
Seeing those “black belts” perform just disappoints me for some reason. Like, it’s hilarious to watch but like it’s also sad that these men and women spent money on training that teaches them nothing.
3:25 This little dude has more skills than any one in this video! 🤣
That's why I always challenge the master before joining.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 😂😂😂😂😂 nice one 😂😂
@D core youv gotta lot tu lern abowt anglish.
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@@philojudaeusofalexandria9556 lol
@D core noob
2:55: No. 26: it was either starting a middle-aged hockey league, or this. We have no regrets.
No intro, no outro, no explanation, just straight onto it, instantly subscribed.
This is a great list. On #15 - "The sensei never teaches hands-on, he has assistants for that", I have seen this not necessarily in a McDojo. If you go to a more traditional taekwondo school run by a Korean master, especially the WFT/Olympic style, it is not unusual for the top guy to hang back while his highest-ranking black belt leads drills. Normally their model is the master only teaches his top guys, and they teach the rest.
Often he won't even speak English even if he is fluent; he'll give instructions to the leader in Korean, then the black belt would be like, "Ok, he wants us to do x-y-z..."at least that has been my experience. Maybe they are not ALL like that.
It has been brought to my attention that this list was in fact created by Jesse Enkamp - a fellow UA-camr and martial artist, instead of the person that I credited this list to (unless there is a misunderstanding, which could be). The original list is here: www.karatebyjesse.com/93-signs-of-a-mcdojo/
Sorry Jesse for the confusion, no bad intentions were intended!
Yes, this is an article from my website (www.karatebyjesse.com)
If I am doing taekwondo and they want me to compete, is that a bad sign? Moreover, we take the crap out of us in each sparring session. They have good kickers as far as I see it. They also have 14 years old black belts that started training at the age of seven. It takes 6 years to earn a black belt. Another thing is that our masters don't want to spar with us but they are supervising our sparring. And they want to be called "sabom". I am in the itf style.
@@KARATEbyJesse what I love about this guy (subscribe to him too) is that he's humble and he spars with his brother who practices MMA.
Hey Jesse! I'm really sorry it turned out this way :( I honestly believed the person who told me it's his list and gave me permission to use it :/ Can I make it up to you somehow? Is it enough that I leave the links to your source everywhere possible?
Eze Meza, sounds suspicious...
great video!!!
Thank you Nick! It's good to hear from you and I'm really glad you liked the video
If the defense techniques can't prevent a mosquito from harming you, it's probably a McDojo.
A few from my own experience-
your instructor is overweight and has a ponytail.
your school has a demo video, or drools at other school's 'demo' videos.
your instructor tells you every other branch of your style is incomplete and 'watered down'.
every month your instructor complains that there's not enough money for rent and so you always try to give a little extra to help out so that the gym doesn't close yet you always hear you instructor bragging he just bought some new miracle cure or magic beans.
everytime a new student comes in the instructor goes through *the exact same* choreographed demo with one of the instructors.
any sort of wrestling is referred to as 'rolling around on the ground playing grab ass'.
your martial art is "complete" and doesn't need anything added to it to be able to defeat all other martial arts.
when you ask your instructor how to get out of a position, he tells you not to get into that position in the first place.
Yup, been there ;)
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Seems to be a correct statement
Thanks! I needed this!
I was taught at hurricane kickboxing by Ian hollet for 9 years and one difference is that lessons don’t always follow a specific plan, it changes to fit the students and if you ask to spar during a sparring lesson he will flatten you, no matter what your age is😂
3:00 I was wondering why Ryu’s theme started playing, then I saw the Hadokens. Very cool.
Hunting Hunter TBH I thought it was Doom music at first for some reason...
Sorry for being a nerd, but that’s Ken’s theme...
I'm a karate practitioner and I can agree with this list. Its sad and hilarious at the same time because some of these sound ridiculous but they are true. I have sat in and watched other karate classes in the area around my home to see what they are about and you see this stuff alllllll the time. Like he said, if you spot 3, 4 or more and up walk away from the school.
I completely agree. While it's funny, it's crazy that actually when you've been around such places, as funny as it is, it's true
So straightforward! love it! respect
I very much appreciate you jumping straight to the point!
Will you ever do: "How to spot a real martial arts school? (Not funny)" :)
He doesn't know how to judge that.
@@themaverickblackbelt8054 Well it seems that very no people do, since all the videos I could find is how Martial Arts don't work, there aren't any videos for the ones that do.
@@Kentchangar If I made one, would you watch it?
@@themaverickblackbelt8054 Off course . To be precise, I've watched several already, but they don't show those martial arts in action, they just say they're good. While there are a lot of videos showing bad martial arts.
@@Kentchangar boxing and kick boxing work 100%
Hold on.. I just got a 14th dan off the internet on a 1 week program.. did I just waist my 100$?
No, you're just really good. Also, nice pun!
Also, thumbs up for the pun! Dunno if you intended that, even better if so lol
Buying a 14th Dan online for $100 is still more worthwhile than attending some actual martial arts schools lol.
Definitely a * waist* for that belt..
Yes
0:56
Let me show you the dance of my people!
Had a buddy who was a transplant from vietnam. His inside crescent kicks were fast and powerful. He sent a bully spinning like a top before hitting the pavement.
Great list. I agree with all of your points. One I would add is to watch out for a dojo who asks for a large upfront payment or insist on buying their overpriced uniforms immediately.
Yes yes, also just having something printed on or patches sewn onto the uniform is a red flag for me. Or a weird uniform color that nobody else uses.
A "black belt program" where you sign a long contract to get an accelerated training course.
A lot of Kyokushin karate gyms and some BJJ gyms use osu a lot! I don't think that makes them a McDojo :o
Fun fact... In Japan they don't say Osu that often or use it excessively...
@@vincentlee7359 Unless you're in the Navy :-)
@Follow the howl Exactly. We get in trouble in my dojo (that's in Japan mind you) if we don't say it enough. It's probably the word the most said word in a dojo from a student's perspective. You answer, say hello, say you understand, etc with just Osu. It's called 押忍の精神 in Kyokushin and its variants. Some of you have never trained in Japan or let alone in a karate dojo but yet come on here and spout foolishness.
Well in our dojo we say it osu at the opening of the session and at the end . ( some of our student say that as a " yes " sometimes )
OSU comes from two words "Oshi and Shinobu which means to push and persevere against everything life throws at you. Therefore when we say OSU in Kyokushin etc that is what we mean
haha man you are awesome, you have some captures of you on Aikido days.
Wish you all the best
“To block their bodies balance you press your fingers into the pressure points in their arm, do you feel it? I’m using both my thumbs to make your left arm submit to my will. It’ll make you feel uncomfortable and in pain allowing me to bend your arm and be thrown.”
*I tuck my arm in instead of letting them bring it up and out.*
“You aren’t supposed to do that. Your arm realistically should twist outwards.”
*I put my free arm on their head, to show everyone that this technique exposes their head to my free arm. As the sensei tries to do the same move again.*
“Maybe you’re doing it wrong.”
And then I got kicked out.
Number 5: "A camouflage belt"
😂😂😂
: ATA
Hey I only heard of a black belt that'll take you several years of training and experience, but a camouflage belt?! That's some McDojo bullshido right there!
I think you heard of that karate place called victory right
@@seijin4426 McDojo Bullshido 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
@@seijin4426 Dude you made my da 😂😂😂😂😂😂.. Thank you!!
Is it really a big deal if i call my sensei, sensei? I mean it literally means teacher.
Indeed in my dojo that is the only thing on the list that does happen so
@Michael Taylor interesting
We say every move or roll in japanese, we count in japanese etc so maybe that is why.
@Michael Taylor wow much you really did a lot of effort for my insignificant post thx really interesting how it is also as a form of pride for the Japanese.
Yeah my school/family is very traditional and still uses the Cantonese terms and titles for teachers. But many of our teachers are actually still Chinese, it hasn't been totally Americanized.
Also 'oss' 'osu' comes from 'onegaishimasu' which translates as 'please practise with me'. So Just cause these are used it should not necessarily be a McDojo.
Easily your best video. I really enjoyed it maybe too much! You forgot that the first day you enter the dojo the master demands for you to kneel!
''grandmaster rarely teaches stuff hands-on'' dude I feel that, but on the opposite side. My karate dojo really focused on sparring and even incorporated a lot of boxing, making a distiction on training katas from training fighting. So we had like 15min of traditional techniques, mostly for apreciation, and people that wanted to compete in kata competitions could practice it and the rest would spar with pressure and learn some boxing principles. So the grandmaster was 70 years old and he hit like a damn brick, and did sparring with everyone at least once teaching spacing and striking. I know karate is not the best form of fighting, but he teached us how to approach fights and the basics which was extremely valuable, if anything for the 2 years I stayed there
It was a actually funny, most people think that in aikido you are told when to fall, but I actually fell on purpose once and they got mad at me😂
Well, your biggest enemy is the ground, so why meet it on purpose? 🙏😇
Some levels of Bullshido McDojos are worse than others.
Many TMA schools in our area, especially TKD, are marketed toward suburban families with kids. They get a good workout, and practice good techiniques with mostly Kata , Bunkai (sequencing drills), or point sparring, very little contact fighting.
I wouldn't say this is worthless.
Some of my friends and their kids who received black belts there in 3-4 years couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag alone if you left it open, but they stayed in relatively fit, healthy shape and learn to move their bodies with discipline and purpose, along with participating in a group journey into martial arts.
Others have graduated on to other styles and schools with more practical and applicable fighting skills pursuing their love of martial arts which would never have existed without this initial exposure and training.
I think there are gradients. I've long maintained that decent karate and TKD schools get a bad rap. They may not produce the next MMA greats, but they will probably make you appreciably better than you were when you started--assuming, of course, that your individual school isn't a McDojo
Sorry, it is just you said "many" and that is a bit of a fallacy because I know you haven't travelled enough to make such a statement. I have seen TKD schools that where the opposote muself.
@D core No, largely the style. It's very clear that the style(s) you do is extremely important. Some styles are basically disqualifies from MMA success.
The "it's the fighter not the art" thing was just an excuse generated by various TMA factions to pretend like there weren't incredibly clear trends of success (or failure, depending) coming out of certain styles. People that do a combination of boxing, wrestling, jiujitsu, kickboxing, and Muay Thai just straight up are better fighters than people who don't do some combination of those five styles.
Now just knowing the best styles isn't enough to make you an MMA great, it's more like not knowing a combination of the best styles means you are incapable of even becoming a successful amateur.
@D core I didn't actually (not much of a combat sports fan in general), although I'm vaguely familiar with the fighters. As I recall Usman is a jiujitsu black belt + wrestling guy and Colby is more of a wrestling specialist.
Edit: just watched a recap. Interesting, two grappling specialists basically decide just to have a boxing match lol
@D core The styles were hugely important in that fight. If one of them wasn't also a master at grappling, the fighter that was really good at wrestling and/or jiujitsu would have just taken him down at will and either GNPed him or to a TKO or or submitted him. I can't say why both opted not even to attempt a grappling-based win, it might have been to increase the action in the fight, it might have been because neither was confident in their ability to out-grapple the other, but the fact that they both resorted to another of the big five MMA styles, boxing, also shows how important each of these styles are. Neither of them went to aikido or baguazhang, for instance.
They're both MMA fighters, and they're both going to be regularly training boxing, Muay Thai, kickboxing, wrestling, and BJJ, even if they specialize in only a small number of those styles. The lack of competence in any of those areas will make you far too vulnerable even at the lower levels of MMA.
I was taught years ago and I have been a 3rd degree black belt for years now. I have been in actual fights in and out of the ring so my skills isn't fake otherwise I wouldn't be writing this. Thank God. Now I am training my kids.
I was very relived to find that my dojo doesn't fall under any of these categories (with the exception of one or two 15 year-olds as black belts that have been there forever and had to go through rigorous training). We don't even call it a dojo lol, we just call it a studio. They teach us how to actually apply our skills from multiple attack angle and one of our instructors sometimes has wrestling matches with the higher ranked students at the end of class to practice bjj.
Five more to add if you do another list :)
1. Establishing as many franchises as possible.
2. Focus is on quantity over quality.
3. Copyrighted techniques.
4. Compulsary to wear matching uniforms.
5. Doing things a certain way because "that's the way it's always been done".
Just thought of five more!
6. A rediculously long belt system.
7. A rediculously short instructors course (learn to teach self defence in one day, no prior skills needed!)
8. All focus is on money and profiting from others regardless of outcome.
9. Kids classes that are basically crèches under the banner of martial arts.
10. An instructor that says he's knows everything there is to know.
So any gracie bjj course then.
I think you'd have to patent a technique, or maybe make it a trade secret
@@elenchus where would people then stand in terms of fair use? 🤔
@@AlexanderGent There's no fair use exception for patents and trade secrets are only protected so long as they aren't public and haven't been stolen via espionage, which is to say, if you happen to figure out a technique on your own, it would invalidate the trade secret.
Now, I don't know if there's any precedent for this, but I think you COULD copyright a kata/form/poomsae because it's arguably a choreographed dance. Because techniques, at least in theory, practical, they'd fall under patent law, if anything. But that would get into a very interesting discussion of whether kata is practical or is it a form of expression.
Maybe I should call up the USPTO next week and see if there's any precedent for that.
The place I trained never failed a student on the grading day if they finished the grading, but: we had mandatory pre-tests a week out from grading day which ran for an hour and were always much harder than the actual grading. I did fail a pre-test once and had to re do it a few days later. The pre-test was where your technique was closely scrutinised, notes were taken and you received written feedback and you either passed or failed and this seemed to act as a filter to determine whether you were eligible for promotion. I strongly suspect that the pre-test was the actual grading day and the “official” grading day was to showcase the students who passed the pre-test to the public knowing that they’d already demonstrated the required competency days prior. Grading days always had large audiences of family and friends of students and seemed to be a PR recruiting drive. I don’t see any problem with this model if it is the case.
There is a Kung fu gym in my area that’s called Mastery Martial Arts (MMA) 🤣 🤣 🤣