I ended up falling in love with Mahjong because my mother was watching me play the game and saw me walk into the mahjong location for a story moment and immediately asked to play and she just showed me how to play without the tutorial now anytime I try to get the Mahjong achievements I play it side by side with my mother it's so fun
@@xStanyyx You'd be suprised where you can find them, I found mine by accident since they had a flyer up at a Dunkin I go to before work. Wouldn't have known otherwise
I really hated this game at first. Then like you mentioned, I studied several guides and learned a lot of the game's mechanics visually. It became something I dedicated two weeks of studying towards. Eventually, it became the way I made money in later yakuza games. What makes it really funny for me is my mom was floored when I was playing it. She said "Riichi Mahjong. That was your great grandfathers game of choice. He lost his entire estate from it. You inherited his curse." I DIDNT KNOW MOM I JUST WANTED TO BEAT THIS GAME SERIES 100%
What it comes down to is the fact that Mahjong is TOO BIG to be a MINIgame. There's no casual-gamer friendly way to incrementally teach and adjust players to play it to it's fullest extent. Personally, I only ever touch Mahjong and spam Peerless Tiles in Judgment, since it's tied to the friendships/substory progression.
I think that's a great way to put it. Mahjong is too big to be a minigame. I don't want to learn all the rules and terminology just so I can play a "minigame" enough to check off a box in a larger video game that isn't really about Mahjong. Invest all that time learning Mahjong just to clear the friend requirement in Judgment and then not play again (thus forgetting it all over time), or just stop playing Judgment and move on to something else. I'm gonna pick "move on" every time.
I remember brute-forcing it to get to Amon in Judgment (since one of the Friends requires you to win a tournament or something), and after a while, I started to notice some of the patterns of what would win and lose, and eventually I was able to get past it. …only to immediately forget all about it the moment I completed the Friend request 😅
I just bought the cheat item from the sp store. On a side note Amon in 3 is the only one I haven't beat because the bowling physics in the remaster. That is my eternal shame.
That is my only annoyance with mahjong and the mini games in the series, side quests and other activities locked behind the mini games, progression and platinum blocked because of this, I couldn't even platinum like a dragon Gaiden because of the stupid pool game and it's random janky physics 😡😡 I'm not good at mahjong and never will be, I'm not even good at western card games either, i've tried to learn but failed with how overwhelming the instructions are, it's like trying to read music notes on a sheet as a requirement or learning to play chess and not having a clue on how to progress with it.
this reminds me of a story about this one guy who's like a mahjong world champion or something like that, who started playing final fantasy 14 and all he did was play the main story for several hours up until he got to the golden saucer (I think? I don't know anything about ff14, it's an area with a bunch of minigames), all just so he could play mahjong because according to him it's the best way available to play mahjong online and it's not even close
@@chainsawplayin I think this probably was before mahjong soul released, also he was like an old guy who didn't play videogames except ff14 for the mahjong
They apperently used some popular mahjong software and put it in. You can get to the area pretty early and can even use it on free trial, so I can see why it's popular. Play a mahjong game and get a free dress up simulator attached lmao
I'm from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, growing up we play A LOT of card games, one of the games that I grew up playing with my uncles and cousins was a game called: Kan-Kan (كنكان). When I first played Mahjong in Yakuza0, it felt familiar, ... it's essentially the game I used to play but with tiles instead of cards!! You goal is to collect "KANs", group tiles together until all your hand is kans! Our game even had Riichi (we called it: Dawwar). Absolutely loved it, I didn't need guides to play Mahjong, I already was taught its basics since childhood, only needed to read the rules a couple of times.
Yes for both playing cards and solitaire mahjong I'm good at those but not these types that are in the Yakuza games, it's frustrating when they didn't choose the solitaire versions and kept it simple 😢
I can't wait for the next resident evil to have a giant mahjong piece that would follow the player around ,that would be stuff from nightmares for me 🙀
RGG and Mahjong Soul need to collaborate already. MS would get Yakuza's characters and, in return, Yakuza could finally implement a palatable tutorial (or at least a yaku list you can look up while playing)
And you don't even need most of the yaku most of the time. All-simples, Pinfu, Riichi with one Dora is like THE standard way to an 8000 points Mangan. Only outside of Yakuza I learned that in fact 95% of all yaku are just more unlikely ways your 3-3-3-3-2 pattern can look.
I try Mahjong in every RGG game only to have the same realization, I don't have fun playing it. I've watched the guides and got a basic understanding of the game, I can win a few hands here or there, I just don't enjoy it and don't have a compulsion to 100% these games so I just leave after loosing a few games and never come back. That's the great thing about these games, there are plenty of side content options that I can find a few to sink hours into and leave the rest in the dust bin.
That part of the video describing why newcomers are intimidated by Mahjong described my experience perfectly. I was playing Yakuza 2 on the PS2 and was so lost reading the rules, and I still didn't understand after watching video demonstrations of how things worked. It sucks because I needed to finish Mahjong related substories to fight Jo Amon. 😮💨
I was fortunate enough to live in a city where the city's best player, and an international competitor, has been giving free IRL classes to beginners. I went from Yakuza 0 to there and that's how I got the basics that I could apply to the Yakuza games.
I will never forget spending 8 hours doing mahjong in yakuza 0 for 100%. I promised i'd never do it again. But, my love for this series made me do it, and i am somewhat alright at the minigame. God bless CyricZ for his guides and streams. I feel the predominant factor detering people from the minigame is the ridiculous AI and the fact that the Riichi button is hidden. It took me 2 hours to realise this. Great video, and congrats on 10k
I learned Mahjong from the Yakuza games and I find it enjoyable now. I do feel sorry for people who started the series with either 0 or Kiwami because the RNG for every gambling game in these two in particular is brutal. You'd expect OG 2 and 3 to have the hardest AI-favored Mahjong but the one in 3 is actually pretty fair all things considered.
About the AI, it's me or the AI randomizer is always harder at the beginning? En each game when trying to go over the ranks the first lower ones are awful. But when you reach over 15, you are calling ritchie in one of two rounds in every match
Didn't find it to be any harder or easier. But Easiest gsme to win at. Casino games and the ones at the homeless camps are harder to get and just hope to get a good hand . Especially the dumb cat fight one Mahjong just win a cheesy hand and jap rules often boosts that to big hands
Ive literally always wanted to finally dive deep into Mahjong since Y0, and you described my journey and experience with it perfectly 🤣 and now you’ve also given me newfound motivation to finally give another try to Mahjong and see if it’s finally my time to slowly but surely, master it 🔥
I decided to learn mahjong because of Yakuza. I'm not that good yet but it's been really fun! You're spot on about it being RNG. There's ways to predict certain things but ultimately RNG controls the match. I love mahjong and I don't regret learning it.
I haven’t even gotten to Amon because they gatekeep a substory behind the gold minigame where you have to do par or better. From what I read, winning or losing the golf substory doesn’t matter, but still, I couldn’t 100% yakuza 3 substories because of it 😞
@@AndrewTheUA-camCommentator Ooof, that one. I was lucky enough to achieve it without that much of a trouble. I actually enjoy the golf minigame. Bowling substory, on the other hand... 8-10 fucking hours. Y3 Amon needs all substories, IF-7 and Kamuro Castle sidequest. All of them. He's a pussy in the actual bossfight and one of the easiest in the franchise, but my man, I get PSTD from hostess club music because of the mandatory dating of 10 HOSTESSES. 10. ONE PER YEAR IN THE JOINT. It's no wonder why Sayama left. Don't give up and you will get there eventually, but it's insanity at its finest. May RNG be with you, my friend.
I didn’t understand at all how to play it and got soft locked from even continuing the main storyline because I didn’t know you have to hit the ball a million miles away
This video was enlightening, I normal brute force Mahjong and just go with it whether I win or lose, but honestly this video has got me considering giving it a shot. As while there are many exciting mini games to play with the series, I'd honestly like to give some of the more slower paced like Majhjong and Shogi. Although I'm more of shogi guy but haven't really committed myself to ether one as I've not read the rules thoroughly. But I think I might give them both a chance again after watching this video. Got say this was an informative video. Also the thumbnail is hilariously perfect
Hah. Definitely a good way of emphasizing my time with this minigame. Speaking as someone who’s marathoning the series currently, it’s fun to finally know what I’ve missed out on & working through the good and bad moments. All my time at Mahjong I’ve felt I was peeking at the menu/rules more often than the actual tiles lol. Funny enough, my first game was Infinite Wealth cause a friend was playing it & it peaked my interest in a series I was meaning to look into anyways; afterwards took HUGE advantage of the sales to get the rest. Definitely provides a unique experience through the story going from the end, back to the beginning (for the timeline at least) with 0. Currently for mainline, I finished 5; then went to Ishin (later realizing they use characters I haven’t technically met yet, oops lol) which I’m almost done & will jump into 6 right after. Back with Mahjong, I didn’t like the game, but it was a case of me not understanding it; the ruleset definitely didn’t help with me learning the nuances. Ironically going to Y0 made it worse cause of the hand requirements for completion & some games not having translated tiles, just didn’t help me as someone that WANTS to learn it; happens when you go backwards to play a series hehe. Despite that, I was glad I felt my playing got better as I continued the series & even at the beginning still found ways to think how to make it easier to remember. Thanks to a specific hand in Y3, it gave me a good example to show a post to ask how it lost & I learned WAY more about the game & in a result helping me understand how to play it better. Where in Y4, where I am planning on using a Peerless Tile after a test run, I got the point requirement on my VERY FIRST RUN! Of course, not perfect & frustrating moments will ALWAYS occur, nothing new for some minigames; however I was glad that this game gave me a new perspective on games I likely wouldn’t have much opportunity to try out, even including some of the other games like Koi-Koi, Cee-lo, etc. Also, side note to end things, was glad to know my hatred for the Hostess Maker ‘game’ is declared a ‘right of passage’; that got a great chuckle out of me. I actually liked the one in 4 WAY more (even if it goes from an F to a D-), cause at least the hostesses felt like actual PEOPLE during the game & had an end result for other characters.
As somebody who plays Mahjong online a few times per week (Gold ranked on Mahjong Soul), I do find the Yakuza implementation rather frustrating. AIs _frequently_ call Ron while on a closed hand without declaring Riichi first, way more than humans do. And the sound design when you get ronned on feels like a jumpscare. But moreso, most games require you to get 1st place too much, so there's no incentive to play if you're not ahead. My playstyle turned into "If I get ronned on during round one, or don't win by round two, quit out and re-start. Turtle through rounds three and four." Anything else probably wastes your time - there were only a few games in the greater RGG serious where there was a tournament mode where second place would let you go up the ladder a little. Any realistic measure of Mahjong skill takes about 100 games anyways; it's never supposed to be winning a single game that matters.
I dont hate it, but I dont know how to play it. I never learned chess, nor poker or most card games, I guess I just never cared to learn any of those games. But I think its a great thing that mahjong is in the game, since its more relative to their culture. I never encountered Amon ever while playing all yakuza games, back when I started last year, but I hope to learn mahjong, while I replay my favorites Ishin, 0,1 and 2 sometime.
same goes for shogi, koi koi, and the other games, i just end up doing black jack or poker. save scumming black jack for easy money is the best cheese i found in the game
I've played every game in the franchise but Kenzan and just started the PSP games and, yeah, mahjong... definitely haunts me the most. That and oichikabu/koi koi.
learning mahjong made the journey to my platinum for kiwami 2 a lot more memorable . but i'm still glad they toned down the requirements in more modern games . still haven gotten to completing the older games yet but one day i will.
Having learned Mahjong through Yakuza, it’s incredibly fun. I’ve enjoyed it so much that like you I am playing regularly in Mahjong Soul and also bought my own tiles to teach friends and family. After learning the basics, the game is fairly simple and I love that there’s much more complexity and advanced strategies to learn
I let my friend who's not much of a gamer but enjoys Mahjong do those mini games. Despite all the tutorials I tried to follow I just don't understand it. it's such a loaded game with too many rules. Yakuza did teach me how to play Blackjack and Poker tho
actually I happen to love mahjong. it seems insurmountable at first but once you learn the basics and get some wins, you get a feel for it. then it starts getting addictive. The main way to be good at it (at least against ais) is to not go for insane hands. go for pinfu and tanyao, with hopefully some doras and maybe double sequences or something.
I have watched so much Yakuza Mahjong guides, just for learning it in Final Fantasy XIV. I'm still stuck on stage 2 of the learning. But in the matches I've had against humans in 14 they've been a very welcoming bunch.
When I only improved at mahjong in any RGG game or Judgment because of Mahjong Soul. Ichihime teaches the basics very well to the point that its easy to understand.
Yeah. Remember grinding Mahjong like for 5 days straight in yakuza 0. I was sitting in discord with friends every evening, struggling to get any winning hand. But then I randomly found out how to Riichi, won a huge bet and got 8 points. The only thing was left is Riichi-Ippatsu and about 2 milion yen to win, which i did next day. It was exhausting, but still better than cat fight
It reminds me of how I feel about compulsory arts in school. I had no passion for plucking strings or drawing lines so I ended up treating it as what it was i.e. work, a chore to be completed. Ultimately they don't take no for an answer, they are still grading you at the end of the day, however at the same time they frame it as something you should be enjoying Later on my life I learned to appreciate things like music, art direction and writing I doubt I'll learn and enjoy mahjong anytime soon considering how many sour memories this series has caused me to associate with it
I am in Yakuza Kiwami 2 doing the platinum and the fact that you need to win 30 times with richi is genuinely the worst thing they could have done. The moment I started enjoying it i suddenly had to win 30 games using richi. I an 27 currently and the npcs just stop me from getting another victory. They stop me every time because luke you said they always declare richi the second i do. Also 1 thing many people hate is yhe fact that the richi command is hidden. You need to press the show buttons option and many beginners are confused because they followed the guide and richi still doesn't show up
i loved mahjong in these games i was actually happy to see it since i already knew mahjon from my favorite manga so i already knew how to play i actually played alot on my phone mahjong is like the best thing ever
I also enjoy mahjong. Granted, i got familiar with the game prior to getting into yakuza with games like Kemono Mahjong. My main complaint about it in Yakuza is how cutthroat the other players can be even on easy. That could just be bad luck or a skill issue, but I definitely notice it a lot more in this series than in other games.
I always play it like poker trying to gather sets and checking all the time if I got hand. It works decent enough to do everything mahjong related in every game and have actual fun with it. Mahjong parlors are one of first places I check on my own when starting another game in series
Yakuza was the reason I picked up Riichi again during the pandemic. Now I play at tournaments! The game really gets deeeeep once you get into defense and efficiency strategies.
I remember when I learned how to play mahjong a little bit, the first thing I did when Yakuza 4 remastered came out was the 7 pairs achievement, good times
chitoitsu is kinda hard to get compared to other hands. i mean, its not as hard as getting a yakuman. but still pretty hard for a 2-han hand, plus because of its strictly closed hand configuration and it only grants a fixed 25 fu, chitoitsu with riichi and tsumo alone will not give you a mangan (requires at least 4 han 30 fu). You would need to further upgrade your (5 han automatically grants you a mangan). so unless you wanna flex or your luck at that time was good, pursuing a chitoitsu is often pointless. might as well aim for toitoi or sanankou (closed toitoi, getting tsumo will upgrade it to a yakuman - Suuankou) which is way easier and will also grant you 2 han. plus toitoi / sanankou is not as restrictive. congrats for getting it, though. You must had an insane amount of luck to ever get that hand once.
Well I can play mahjong badly now because of the yaluza series. Well enough to get the achievemnents but not well enough that I dont constantly have to check the hand guide.
My particular stumbling block with mahjong was the notion of making >2 Han winning hands. Knowing that you need a pair and 3 runs to win, then finding out your hand is worth basically nothing was frustrating.
Real Mahjong is all chance. Videogame Mahjong the AI can just give itself what it needs or deprive you of what you need. I haven't got up to Royal league because of that.
Maybe because I played chess as a kid, I like shogi in Yakuza (it is pretty similar game). However I found that game engine is pretty weak for true shogi player, when difficulty was too high for me I used shogi engine (yes, they exist similar to chess engines like Stockfish) to win.
even as a mahjong enjoyer i always skip completion list in every game where they require you to win with every specific hand. thankfully for the most part they moved away from it and you just have to win at every table which doesnt take that long. kiwami 2 has one of the best mahjong tutorials and thats where i started my mahjong adventure so it makes it even weirder thatn in LAD games they switched to worse tutorial where they dont mention some of the possible winning hands, or the order of dora for dragon tiles and then judgement is a pretty good way about learning about different winning hands by progressing that one friend bond that asks you to win with specific hand
I learned how to play Mahjong just because of yakuza, i knew it would appear in every game and i wanted to 100% them so i had to know how to play mahjong and now i love mahjong :)
@mrvenom88 you just actived it before the match starts, you are getting asked by the game if you want to use it. After that you draw and press X. Thats it. Auto win
@@xStanyyxThe problem is Judgement was ruined by microtransactions that let you buy in game money, so the economy is totally screwed in the game and making enough money is impossible. So you need to spend hours getting the free play tickets for the board game to grind enough money to buy the cheat item
I learned how to play this game in person after becoming a fan of the Yakuza series. I actually think the game is very simple BUT I had to have a glossary of hands in MY hands for the first several games before I understood what the heck to do. I think even a hand like all simples isn't very simple when you're first learning all the different tile types. I genuinely suggest, as stupid as it sounds, to have a physical set of papers with examples of the different hands while you play. The CPUs will still kick your butt for a long time but it will help immensely. Edit: This obviously doesn't go for people who are trying to get the platinum.. But I think a big key to the game is knowing when to give up on a hand to go for something worth less points.
Hahaha seems like there are a few of us. The Yakuza franchise is definitely the reason I sought out to become a moderately adept mahjong player, but I learned it not out of rage, but out of necessity as I ran out of cheat tiles and still had games to win
As someone who fell in love with mahjong after learning it to 100% yakuza, I still hate the requirements to get specific hands. Its just annoying having to go for a full straight instead of playing the hand optimally, and it slows down the other mahjong completion requirements.
@@theactualmasterbeef I know but any specific hand in Mahjong is like this. My suggestion is to start pushing for it as long as you start with 3 couples.
I learned to play Mahjong in Yakuza and absolutely love it. I'm not good, I'm sure that won't be able to play it outside the videogame cause I'm incapable of undestend the pointing system, but with the basic I still love it and don't understand the hate. And I don't get it at all when shogi is there, and after 10 years I'm still incapable of learning how to play it decently (all this reusing respawning and leveling just goes over the top for my silly brain). And I know how to play chess. Mahjong is not so hard and requires less time investment. People is soooo weird sometimes.
I had the same mindset with Mahjong. At first I had zero idea what the rules are as I'm playing this mini game. Until I read the rule book in-between pausing in match to have better understanding of game. I'm also no master at Mahjong but it's so addictive I can't stop playing it. Plus Mahjong is a great place to start in generating some cash for your character if you know what your doing.
mahjong always bummed me out for personal reasons too cause I have a friend who always wanted to show me how to play but we can never get enough people together. maybe one day🤞
Wait till completion ,, fans'' discover that mahjong is not even remotly close to being hardest part of any completion list. Fantasy Zone on Pc in 0, Catfights in 0, Eq grinding in Ishin etc etc. Only game where mahjong is actually stupid is Judgemnt but Judgment in general have crappy side content.
The only thing that I could see stumping someone is knowing all the hands or trying to go for trophies but the game itself is pretty simple. There are tactics to the game so it's not just RNG. I dunno maybe I'm just crazy. One game I want to learn to the same extent is Koi-Koi. I also want to play it irl but nobody in my area knows how to play. Last time I was in Japan, I was way too nervous to walk to a parlour. Heh...😅
I already liked mahjong, but being able to play it and other minigames with your party members in infinite wealth makes it way better. I dont want to listen to that lady ask where her breath mints are for the 1000th time
I remember my first exposure to mahjong was from mahjong soul, it was abit complicated but after reading it's guide book i sort of understood the game but at the same time didn't become competitive with it, however at least it does a better job at being fun for both people who play it for fun and people who are new to it, so when i got yakuza 0 i almost gave up on the mini game for 100% competition because of it, the text book doesn't do enough to help you understand it from a basic perspective and the a.i were horrendous, so i looked up a guide and people told me it was just rng based
I do have the fortunate luck of learning how to play mahjong way way before playing the Yakuza series. So when playing Mahjong in Yakuza, i just need to learn what is Dora & Red Dora. And yes i gotta admit, i do love playing Mahjong - unlike Outrun, Fantasy Zone, Pachiko But i gotta admit at times i can get rage & annoyed while playing the mini game as the video said - RNG. Lord knows how many times i lost as i gotten Richii. Not to mention when i win, its just a meager amount, while if the AI won either by Tsumo or other tile, it would win BIG. Worst case that happened to me before, after i discard my tile, ALL 3 AI's immediately declared Richii. So yeah.. i can understand why long time fans of Yakuza can hate this mini game that much.
@@d1edserg In a way yeah i was probably playing different style. Let me explain Ages ago, my friend taught me how to play mahjong in real life. So to save time and make it more simple, he just omitted some rules (including Dora i guess) After that, even when i played on Yahoo Mahjong or ipad, there wasn't any dora (when i think about it). It was only on Yakuza i saw the rules about Dora
Ever since learning it for Yakuza 0 I've loved mahjong and usually go down to play a round in those story moments where you "wait for _." I also have a group of friends who play yakuza and are of the 'I don't get it' or 'it's too hard' take, so one day I got them all together and we played Yakuza 0's online mahjong together, where the bots who complete hands in 5 moves wouldn't plague our experience and we could banter. Not only did they have a fun time due to the nature of just hanging out with friends, but since they weren't stressed they actually started learning a few mechanics and details about the game. I call that a win-win. Whoever you may be, if you're reading this I implore you if you can make a group of 4 people who like yakuza, go play Yakuza 0's online mahjong. All you have to do is hit the join game button at the same time and you're practically guaranteed to play together since it's incredibly unlikely for anyone else to be on.
I still haven't 100% yakuza kiwami 2 because over 30 hours have been spent trying to get lucky to draw tsumo. I hate it because I'm not bad at Mahjong; I do well at gatherings. But I can't play strategically, I have to get lucky 28 times (you get to cheat twice or something)
once i learned you can win by getting doubles and triples of the same tile this basic b*tch info was enough for me to finally start winning and no longer being afraid of majong, i still know very little about more advanced hands and ways to win but knowing triples and doubles is enough for me haha
1. Never pon a number tile or a wind that is not yours or table 2. Form any threes (ascending or 3 of the same tile) and a single pair to win To win at mahjong you just don't pon and chi anything you can, the end
IMHO going for open toitoi works pretty well in yakuza...consider just going for it if you have enough pairs/triples in hand the computer doesn't really try to avoid playing into it
Oh, I love Mahjong, at least the ones put out by RGG. I was basically forced to learn how to play it, alongside Shogi, back when Yakuza 2 came out years ago. It's now my go-to early money maker if there's nothing better. I personally love Judgment's version, introducing the Wareme rule. Double output when winning. :D
As any other strategy (gambling) game, you just need to know what probability you'll get certain tiles and keep an eye on everyone else's at the same time. Getting started at no knowledge whatsoever is always going to be difficult. This is like putting chess into its place, if you dont know how to play you'll have to learn how to.
(not) fun fact: It took me 6 years of playing yakuza to realise you have to press a button to check if you can call riichi. And I was wondering why I was losing so much, I was unintentionally only going for tsumo 😭
It can't be done, because there is "atamahane" rule in yakuza, like it happens in most IRL mahjong parlors. So even if two or more people will call "ron" on you, there still will be only one who'll rob ya
As I understand it just enough to luck through it even on the highest difficulty (without ever being good enough to consistently win), I don't hate it... unless they load up the completion list with a bazillion variations on Win, like Judgment did. At least it didn't just give up at presenting Asian mini-games like Sleeping Dogs did and just go "poker with mahjong tiles" for the dullest mini-game with the longest commute.
In kiwami 2 you will receive 2 mahjong cheat items in one playthrough. Maybe you don't believe me but I finished 7 new game plus just to complete mahjong trophy in K2 instead of learning how to play it.
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DUDE at least put a jumpscare waring
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Ron! 😂
Top 1 way to scare a yakuza gamer:
I ended up falling in love with Mahjong because my mother was watching me play the game and saw me walk into the mahjong location for a story moment and immediately asked to play and she just showed me how to play without the tutorial now anytime I try to get the Mahjong achievements I play it side by side with my mother it's so fun
n'awwwww. that is adorable. what a mensch
Wholesome bonding by boardgames.
That's so sweet!
playing yakuza with family nearby is something tho
@@majidshahani2437 *The price of an F-cup substory starts*
I got so pissed off at mahjong I went to my local mahjong club to learn it, now its a thing I play every sunday
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"local Mahjong club"
We all wish we would have them around the corner 😢
@@xStanyyx You'd be suprised where you can find them, I found mine by accident since they had a flyer up at a Dunkin I go to before work. Wouldn't have known otherwise
That is very kiryu of you
My college started a mahjong society, the Chinese version though.
Don’t mess with us Yakuza fans, we don’t get Mahjong
And we suck at OutRun.
Not me lol
And we're gay
@@Mr_toaster-hu7lg "we're"? Hell nah speak for yourself
@@tutor5391 Stage 1: Denial
@@tutor5391 Thats exactly what a gay yakuza fan would say
I really hated this game at first. Then like you mentioned, I studied several guides and learned a lot of the game's mechanics visually. It became something I dedicated two weeks of studying towards. Eventually, it became the way I made money in later yakuza games.
What makes it really funny for me is my mom was floored when I was playing it. She said "Riichi Mahjong. That was your great grandfathers game of choice. He lost his entire estate from it. You inherited his curse."
I DIDNT KNOW MOM I JUST WANTED TO BEAT THIS GAME SERIES 100%
New substory irl???
"Time to get that estate back!" Sub story started *Riff plays
Bro had a side story intro in real life
Majong is one of the most cheated games in history btw
Genuinely brilliant story hahahah
Thank you for sharing!
No one has the time bro
What it comes down to is the fact that Mahjong is TOO BIG to be a MINIgame. There's no casual-gamer friendly way to incrementally teach and adjust players to play it to it's fullest extent. Personally, I only ever touch Mahjong and spam Peerless Tiles in Judgment, since it's tied to the friendships/substory progression.
I think that's a great way to put it. Mahjong is too big to be a minigame. I don't want to learn all the rules and terminology just so I can play a "minigame" enough to check off a box in a larger video game that isn't really about Mahjong. Invest all that time learning Mahjong just to clear the friend requirement in Judgment and then not play again (thus forgetting it all over time), or just stop playing Judgment and move on to something else. I'm gonna pick "move on" every time.
@@mjc0961 yep, pretty much, I skip all card and mahjong related mini games with any Yakuza game I play and play the rest of it.
@@HUYI1 Koi-Koi basically plays itself though. It's not even hard to learn, the game just _makes_ it hard to learn.
I don’t play video games to work, I play them to distract me from work. Too many of these games involve something stupid, tedious and unrewarding.
and the same can be said about Shogi. Who thought it would be a good idea to put literal chess but bigger as a minigame?
I remember brute-forcing it to get to Amon in Judgment (since one of the Friends requires you to win a tournament or something), and after a while, I started to notice some of the patterns of what would win and lose, and eventually I was able to get past it.
…only to immediately forget all about it the moment I completed the Friend request 😅
And that's gonna be me soon, since I have a limited time to complete these games.
I just bought the cheat item for like 10k xp from the homeless guy because I could not be bothered to fucking play majhong
I just bought the cheat item from the sp store.
On a side note Amon in 3 is the only one I haven't beat because the bowling physics in the remaster. That is my eternal shame.
Memory reallocation moment
That is my only annoyance with mahjong and the mini games in the series, side quests and other activities locked behind the mini games, progression and platinum blocked because of this, I couldn't even platinum like a dragon Gaiden because of the stupid pool game and it's random janky physics 😡😡
I'm not good at mahjong and never will be, I'm not even good at western card games either, i've tried to learn but failed with how overwhelming the instructions are, it's like trying to read music notes on a sheet as a requirement or learning to play chess and not having a clue on how to progress with it.
this reminds me of a story about this one guy who's like a mahjong world champion or something like that, who started playing final fantasy 14 and all he did was play the main story for several hours up until he got to the golden saucer (I think? I don't know anything about ff14, it's an area with a bunch of minigames), all just so he could play mahjong because according to him it's the best way available to play mahjong online and it's not even close
He didn't know about Mahjong Soul...
@@chainsawplayin I think this probably was before mahjong soul released, also he was like an old guy who didn't play videogames except ff14 for the mahjong
theres a popular image guide to the various Yaku in mahjong and its from ff14 players
They apperently used some popular mahjong software and put it in. You can get to the area pretty early and can even use it on free trial, so I can see why it's popular. Play a mahjong game and get a free dress up simulator attached lmao
I'm from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, growing up we play A LOT of card games, one of the games that I grew up playing with my uncles and cousins was a game called: Kan-Kan (كنكان).
When I first played Mahjong in Yakuza0, it felt familiar, ... it's essentially the game I used to play but with tiles instead of cards!! You goal is to collect "KANs", group tiles together until all your hand is kans! Our game even had Riichi (we called it: Dawwar).
Absolutely loved it, I didn't need guides to play Mahjong, I already was taught its basics since childhood, only needed to read the rules a couple of times.
I prefer Mahjong when you're matching tiles on a little built-up puzzle board.
Gotta love how Mahjong Solitare is all the way on the opposite side of the learning difficulty scale of standard Mahjong.
Yes for both playing cards and solitaire mahjong I'm good at those but not these types that are in the Yakuza games, it's frustrating when they didn't choose the solitaire versions and kept it simple 😢
Basically any Westerner: MAHJONG SUCKS!!!!
Asians: Slightly different from my country ruleset, but BRING IT!!!!
tbh I learned riichi mahjong rules before our local rules because of Suchie-pai
I can't wait for the next resident evil to have a giant mahjong piece that would follow the player around ,that would be stuff from nightmares for me 🙀
Mahjong causes great damage to the human spirit without a single benefit.
RGG and Mahjong Soul need to collaborate already. MS would get Yakuza's characters and, in return, Yakuza could finally implement a palatable tutorial (or at least a yaku list you can look up while playing)
And you don't even need most of the yaku most of the time. All-simples, Pinfu, Riichi with one Dora is like THE standard way to an 8000 points Mangan. Only outside of Yakuza I learned that in fact 95% of all yaku are just more unlikely ways your 3-3-3-3-2 pattern can look.
@@FoxGhost7 That's the biggest reason why I prefer zungjung over riichi. You're encouraged to get the more expensive hands if you can in zungjung.
Even the hint systems from clubhouse games: Tiles to tenpai, and just show 2 or 3 achievable-ish yakus based on your current hand.
I try Mahjong in every RGG game only to have the same realization, I don't have fun playing it. I've watched the guides and got a basic understanding of the game, I can win a few hands here or there, I just don't enjoy it and don't have a compulsion to 100% these games so I just leave after loosing a few games and never come back. That's the great thing about these games, there are plenty of side content options that I can find a few to sink hours into and leave the rest in the dust bin.
games like mahjong are only fun if you learn them with real people or friends.
That part of the video describing why newcomers are intimidated by Mahjong described my experience perfectly. I was playing Yakuza 2 on the PS2 and was so lost reading the rules, and I still didn't understand after watching video demonstrations of how things worked. It sucks because I needed to finish Mahjong related substories to fight Jo Amon. 😮💨
I was fortunate enough to live in a city where the city's best player, and an international competitor, has been giving free IRL classes to beginners. I went from Yakuza 0 to there and that's how I got the basics that I could apply to the Yakuza games.
I will never forget spending 8 hours doing mahjong in yakuza 0 for 100%. I promised i'd never do it again. But, my love for this series made me do it, and i am somewhat alright at the minigame. God bless CyricZ for his guides and streams. I feel the predominant factor detering people from the minigame is the ridiculous AI and the fact that the Riichi button is hidden. It took me 2 hours to realise this. Great video, and congrats on 10k
I learned Mahjong from the Yakuza games and I find it enjoyable now. I do feel sorry for people who started the series with either 0 or Kiwami because the RNG for every gambling game in these two in particular is brutal. You'd expect OG 2 and 3 to have the hardest AI-favored Mahjong but the one in 3 is actually pretty fair all things considered.
About the AI, it's me or the AI randomizer is always harder at the beginning? En each game when trying to go over the ranks the first lower ones are awful. But when you reach over 15, you are calling ritchie in one of two rounds in every match
Didn't find it to be any harder or easier. But Easiest gsme to win at.
Casino games and the ones at the homeless camps are harder to get and just hope to get a good hand . Especially the dumb cat fight one
Mahjong just win a cheesy hand and jap rules often boosts that to big hands
Ive literally always wanted to finally dive deep into Mahjong since Y0, and you described my journey and experience with it perfectly 🤣 and now you’ve also given me newfound motivation to finally give another try to Mahjong and see if it’s finally my time to slowly but surely, master it 🔥
Samey hard-to-memorize symbols on playable pieces is a number one reason for me. It's hard to play it even with a bloody guide for dummies.
I learned to read some Japanese so they're just numbers but I can understand just giving up
Mahjong 🤝 Shogi
Cockblocking 100% completion
I mean at least with shogi you can pull up an online engine to beat it for you
Yeah, I wish the game would teach Shogi better. As a mediocre chess player I thought I could figure it out, but nope!
Sadly i have a condition when i play yakuza call diehjong where if i play mahjonh then i perish from this plane of existence truly a tragedy.
i LOVE rng based minigames in my mostly skilled based action game. totally not frustrating at all
I decided to learn mahjong because of Yakuza. I'm not that good yet but it's been really fun! You're spot on about it being RNG. There's ways to predict certain things but ultimately RNG controls the match. I love mahjong and I don't regret learning it.
Next video should be “Why we hate Yakuza 3 golf”
I haven’t even gotten to Amon because they gatekeep a substory behind the gold minigame where you have to do par or better. From what I read, winning or losing the golf substory doesn’t matter, but still, I couldn’t 100% yakuza 3 substories because of it 😞
@@AndrewTheUA-camCommentator Ooof, that one. I was lucky enough to achieve it without that much of a trouble. I actually enjoy the golf minigame. Bowling substory, on the other hand... 8-10 fucking hours.
Y3 Amon needs all substories, IF-7 and Kamuro Castle sidequest. All of them. He's a pussy in the actual bossfight and one of the easiest in the franchise, but my man, I get PSTD from hostess club music because of the mandatory dating of 10 HOSTESSES. 10. ONE PER YEAR IN THE JOINT. It's no wonder why Sayama left.
Don't give up and you will get there eventually, but it's insanity at its finest. May RNG be with you, my friend.
@@lyricsghost2547 whoever decided in the remaster that you needed to complete 10 hostesses really needs to get backhanded
I didn’t understand at all how to play it and got soft locked from even continuing the main storyline because I didn’t know you have to hit the ball a million miles away
I absolutely love golf games, Neo Turf Masters, Everybody's Golf, the PS2 Tiger Woods games... Yakuza 3 golf just feels off.
This video was enlightening, I normal brute force Mahjong and just go with it whether I win or lose, but honestly this video has got me considering giving it a shot. As while there are many exciting mini games to play with the series, I'd honestly like to give some of the more slower paced like Majhjong and Shogi.
Although I'm more of shogi guy but haven't really committed myself to ether one as I've not read the rules thoroughly. But I think I might give them both a chance again after watching this video.
Got say this was an informative video.
Also the thumbnail is hilariously perfect
Hah. Definitely a good way of emphasizing my time with this minigame. Speaking as someone who’s marathoning the series currently, it’s fun to finally know what I’ve missed out on & working through the good and bad moments. All my time at Mahjong I’ve felt I was peeking at the menu/rules more often than the actual tiles lol.
Funny enough, my first game was Infinite Wealth cause a friend was playing it & it peaked my interest in a series I was meaning to look into anyways; afterwards took HUGE advantage of the sales to get the rest. Definitely provides a unique experience through the story going from the end, back to the beginning (for the timeline at least) with 0. Currently for mainline, I finished 5; then went to Ishin (later realizing they use characters I haven’t technically met yet, oops lol) which I’m almost done & will jump into 6 right after.
Back with Mahjong, I didn’t like the game, but it was a case of me not understanding it; the ruleset definitely didn’t help with me learning the nuances. Ironically going to Y0 made it worse cause of the hand requirements for completion & some games not having translated tiles, just didn’t help me as someone that WANTS to learn it; happens when you go backwards to play a series hehe. Despite that, I was glad I felt my playing got better as I continued the series & even at the beginning still found ways to think how to make it easier to remember. Thanks to a specific hand in Y3, it gave me a good example to show a post to ask how it lost & I learned WAY more about the game & in a result helping me understand how to play it better. Where in Y4, where I am planning on using a Peerless Tile after a test run, I got the point requirement on my VERY FIRST RUN! Of course, not perfect & frustrating moments will ALWAYS occur, nothing new for some minigames; however I was glad that this game gave me a new perspective on games I likely wouldn’t have much opportunity to try out, even including some of the other games like Koi-Koi, Cee-lo, etc.
Also, side note to end things, was glad to know my hatred for the Hostess Maker ‘game’ is declared a ‘right of passage’; that got a great chuckle out of me. I actually liked the one in 4 WAY more (even if it goes from an F to a D-), cause at least the hostesses felt like actual PEOPLE during the game & had an end result for other characters.
I cried while trying to get the platinum on kiwami 2 because of mahjong
I literally new game plus the game over and over (roughly 30 times) to get the cheat items in the lockers for mahjong. I DID NOT want to do mahjong...
@@zerparadoxx9458 What was the Mahjong criteria for Platinum? Because to my knowledge, there are only two Peerless Tiles throughout the game.
@@heartlessangel2910 Beating every table in every parlor and getting 20 winning hands iirc.
@@heartlessangel2910 It was related to the completion list.
Also that one substory where you have to win the game from only 1000 points, that shit straight up cheat item check
As somebody who plays Mahjong online a few times per week (Gold ranked on Mahjong Soul), I do find the Yakuza implementation rather frustrating. AIs _frequently_ call Ron while on a closed hand without declaring Riichi first, way more than humans do. And the sound design when you get ronned on feels like a jumpscare.
But moreso, most games require you to get 1st place too much, so there's no incentive to play if you're not ahead. My playstyle turned into "If I get ronned on during round one, or don't win by round two, quit out and re-start. Turtle through rounds three and four." Anything else probably wastes your time - there were only a few games in the greater RGG serious where there was a tournament mode where second place would let you go up the ladder a little.
Any realistic measure of Mahjong skill takes about 100 games anyways; it's never supposed to be winning a single game that matters.
I dont hate it, but I dont know how to play it. I never learned chess, nor poker or most card games, I guess I just never cared to learn any of those games. But I think its a great thing that mahjong is in the game, since its more relative to their culture. I never encountered Amon ever while playing all yakuza games, back when I started last year, but I hope to learn mahjong, while I replay my favorites Ishin, 0,1 and 2 sometime.
Because we didnt grow up playing it like chess, checkers etc...
same goes for shogi, koi koi, and the other games, i just end up doing black jack or poker. save scumming black jack for easy money is the best cheese i found in the game
see, I love mahjong and loved learning it, but I would not inflict learning mahjong from yakuza for anyone
I've played every game in the franchise but Kenzan and just started the PSP games and, yeah, mahjong... definitely haunts me the most. That and oichikabu/koi koi.
Riichi is basically calling uno
Its the worst in the dragon engine games when you get ron'd everytime you call richii despite looking at other discards 😂
learning mahjong made the journey to my platinum for kiwami 2 a lot more memorable . but i'm still glad they toned down the requirements in more modern games . still haven gotten to completing the older games yet but one day i will.
Having learned Mahjong through Yakuza, it’s incredibly fun. I’ve enjoyed it so much that like you I am playing regularly in Mahjong Soul and also bought my own tiles to teach friends and family. After learning the basics, the game is fairly simple and I love that there’s much more complexity and advanced strategies to learn
I let my friend who's not much of a gamer but enjoys Mahjong do those mini games. Despite all the tutorials I tried to follow I just don't understand it. it's such a loaded game with too many rules. Yakuza did teach me how to play Blackjack and Poker tho
actually I happen to love mahjong. it seems insurmountable at first but once you learn the basics and get some wins, you get a feel for it. then it starts getting addictive. The main way to be good at it (at least against ais) is to not go for insane hands. go for pinfu and tanyao, with hopefully some doras and maybe double sequences or something.
I have watched so much Yakuza Mahjong guides, just for learning it in Final Fantasy XIV. I'm still stuck on stage 2 of the learning. But in the matches I've had against humans in 14 they've been a very welcoming bunch.
When I only improved at mahjong in any RGG game or Judgment because of Mahjong Soul. Ichihime teaches the basics very well to the point that its easy to understand.
Yeah. Remember grinding Mahjong like for 5 days straight in yakuza 0. I was sitting in discord with friends every evening, struggling to get any winning hand. But then I randomly found out how to Riichi, won a huge bet and got 8 points. The only thing was left is Riichi-Ippatsu and about 2 milion yen to win, which i did next day. It was exhausting, but still better than cat fight
It reminds me of how I feel about compulsory arts in school. I had no passion for plucking strings or drawing lines so I ended up treating it as what it was i.e. work, a chore to be completed.
Ultimately they don't take no for an answer, they are still grading you at the end of the day, however at the same time they frame it as something you should be enjoying
Later on my life I learned to appreciate things like music, art direction and writing
I doubt I'll learn and enjoy mahjong anytime soon considering how many sour memories this series has caused me to associate with it
I’m so glad I learned Mahjong outside of Yakuza
I am in Yakuza Kiwami 2 doing the platinum and the fact that you need to win 30 times with richi is genuinely the worst thing they could have done. The moment I started enjoying it i suddenly had to win 30 games using richi. I an 27 currently and the npcs just stop me from getting another victory. They stop me every time because luke you said they always declare richi the second i do.
Also 1 thing many people hate is yhe fact that the richi command is hidden. You need to press the show buttons option and many beginners are confused because they followed the guide and richi still doesn't show up
I pity the fools who wants to platinum yakuza games
@@dranzerjetli5126
I pity not the man who wants to platinum Yakuza games but the man who has platinumed Yakuza games
30 times with Riichi? You don't need riichi but yeah, the yakus are needed otherwise. On the other hand those open rii wins from Judgment...
i loved mahjong in these games i was actually happy to see it since i already knew mahjon from my favorite manga so i already knew how to play i actually played alot on my phone mahjong is like the best thing ever
I also enjoy mahjong. Granted, i got familiar with the game prior to getting into yakuza with games like Kemono Mahjong. My main complaint about it in Yakuza is how cutthroat the other players can be even on easy. That could just be bad luck or a skill issue, but I definitely notice it a lot more in this series than in other games.
I always play it like poker trying to gather sets and checking all the time if I got hand. It works decent enough to do everything mahjong related in every game and have actual fun with it. Mahjong parlors are one of first places I check on my own when starting another game in series
It took me over 12 hours straight to win at mahjong after watching a 3 hour video learning it. Never attempting mahjong again.
Yakuza was the reason I picked up Riichi again during the pandemic. Now I play at tournaments!
The game really gets deeeeep once you get into defense and efficiency strategies.
Hope i could reach tournament level mahjong skills in future. I'm only playing it for 3 months now, but I'm very passionate about it
I remember when I learned how to play mahjong a little bit, the first thing I did when Yakuza 4 remastered came out was the 7 pairs achievement, good times
chitoitsu is kinda hard to get compared to other hands. i mean, its not as hard as getting a yakuman. but still pretty hard for a 2-han hand, plus because of its strictly closed hand configuration and it only grants a fixed 25 fu, chitoitsu with riichi and tsumo alone will not give you a mangan (requires at least 4 han 30 fu). You would need to further upgrade your (5 han automatically grants you a mangan). so unless you wanna flex or your luck at that time was good, pursuing a chitoitsu is often pointless. might as well aim for toitoi or sanankou (closed toitoi, getting tsumo will upgrade it to a yakuman - Suuankou) which is way easier and will also grant you 2 han. plus toitoi / sanankou is not as restrictive. congrats for getting it, though. You must had an insane amount of luck to ever get that hand once.
I learned playing Riichi Mahjong due to wanting to plat Kiwami 2. Thank you RGG :3
I've never really engaged with mahjong in a Yakuza game yet but I think I'm ten times as likely to do that eventually than I am to get into shogi.
Well I can play mahjong badly now because of the yaluza series. Well enough to get the achievemnents but not well enough that I dont constantly have to check the hand guide.
My family plays Hong Kong style so learing the Japanese style only took a small adjustment.
I like mahjong but if I went for 100% I would be so annoyed especially in Yakuza 0
My particular stumbling block with mahjong was the notion of making >2 Han winning hands. Knowing that you need a pair and 3 runs to win, then finding out your hand is worth basically nothing was frustrating.
Real Mahjong is all chance.
Videogame Mahjong the AI can just give itself what it needs or deprive you of what you need.
I haven't got up to Royal league because of that.
Mahjong prevented me from getting Platinum in Kiwami 1, so I just gave up on all trophies anyway
Maybe because I played chess as a kid, I like shogi in Yakuza (it is pretty similar game). However I found that game engine is pretty weak for true shogi player, when difficulty was too high for me I used shogi engine (yes, they exist similar to chess engines like Stockfish) to win.
even as a mahjong enjoyer i always skip completion list in every game where they require you to win with every specific hand. thankfully for the most part they moved away from it and you just have to win at every table which doesnt take that long.
kiwami 2 has one of the best mahjong tutorials and thats where i started my mahjong adventure
so it makes it even weirder thatn in LAD games they switched to worse tutorial where they dont mention some of the possible winning hands, or the order of dora for dragon tiles
and then judgement is a pretty good way about learning about different winning hands by progressing that one friend bond that asks you to win with specific hand
I learned how to play Mahjong just because of yakuza, i knew it would appear in every game and i wanted to 100% them so i had to know how to play mahjong and now i love mahjong :)
Mahjong is why I couldn't get all the friends in Judgment and I will never stop disliking it for that.
My guy Judgement has cheat items for Mahjong
@@xStanyyx If you find mahjong indecipherable (as I did) cheat items don't help because *how do you even use them*
@mrvenom88 you just actived it before the match starts, you are getting asked by the game if you want to use it. After that you draw and press X. Thats it. Auto win
@@xStanyyx Oh! I assumed it'd be like the other cheats (a significant boost of some kind) a literal match skipper is probably warranted.
@@xStanyyxThe problem is Judgement was ruined by microtransactions that let you buy in game money, so the economy is totally screwed in the game and making enough money is impossible. So you need to spend hours getting the free play tickets for the board game to grind enough money to buy the cheat item
I learned how to play this game in person after becoming a fan of the Yakuza series. I actually think the game is very simple BUT I had to have a glossary of hands in MY hands for the first several games before I understood what the heck to do. I think even a hand like all simples isn't very simple when you're first learning all the different tile types.
I genuinely suggest, as stupid as it sounds, to have a physical set of papers with examples of the different hands while you play. The CPUs will still kick your butt for a long time but it will help immensely.
Edit: This obviously doesn't go for people who are trying to get the platinum.. But I think a big key to the game is knowing when to give up on a hand to go for something worth less points.
I had started a little with 6 and Kiwami 2 but I swear I left it for a while before seeing Majsoul streamers.
I have no problem with mahjong but I refuse to engage with the stupid batting cages ever
Hahaha seems like there are a few of us. The Yakuza franchise is definitely the reason I sought out to become a moderately adept mahjong player, but I learned it not out of rage, but out of necessity as I ran out of cheat tiles and still had games to win
im making a mahjong tutorial in arabic btw
As someone who fell in love with mahjong after learning it to 100% yakuza, I still hate the requirements to get specific hands. Its just annoying having to go for a full straight instead of playing the hand optimally, and it slows down the other mahjong completion requirements.
Fair
Yakuza 4 is the WORST for that. Being forced to get seven pairs for an achievement is so frustrating because it can often come down to luck.
@@theactualmasterbeef Seven pairs is not that bad
@@diegogionta7475 It is a lot of luck. If your starting hand is too poor or the game is sending the right pieces your way, you physically cannot win.
@@theactualmasterbeef I know but any specific hand in Mahjong is like this. My suggestion is to start pushing for it as long as you start with 3 couples.
Baseball mini game is so much fun to
I learned to play Mahjong in Yakuza and absolutely love it. I'm not good, I'm sure that won't be able to play it outside the videogame cause I'm incapable of undestend the pointing system, but with the basic I still love it and don't understand the hate.
And I don't get it at all when shogi is there, and after 10 years I'm still incapable of learning how to play it decently (all this reusing respawning and leveling just goes over the top for my silly brain). And I know how to play chess. Mahjong is not so hard and requires less time investment. People is soooo weird sometimes.
I had the same mindset with Mahjong. At first I had zero idea what the rules are as I'm playing this mini game. Until I read the rule book in-between pausing in match to have better understanding of game.
I'm also no master at Mahjong but it's so addictive I can't stop playing it. Plus Mahjong is a great place to start in generating some cash for your character if you know what your doing.
mahjong always bummed me out for personal reasons too cause I have a friend who always wanted to show me how to play but we can never get enough people together. maybe one day🤞
RON!! Kokushi Musou! 32000!
Mahjong is a funny way to spell Shogi.
Wait till completion ,, fans'' discover that mahjong is not even remotly close to being hardest part of any completion list. Fantasy Zone on Pc in 0, Catfights in 0, Eq grinding in Ishin etc etc. Only game where mahjong is actually stupid is Judgemnt but Judgment in general have crappy side content.
PC? I was playing 0 on PS4 and Fantasy Zone was still a hard part.
The only thing that I could see stumping someone is knowing all the hands or trying to go for trophies but the game itself is pretty simple. There are tactics to the game so it's not just RNG.
I dunno maybe I'm just crazy. One game I want to learn to the same extent is Koi-Koi.
I also want to play it irl but nobody in my area knows how to play. Last time I was in Japan, I was way too nervous to walk to a parlour. Heh...😅
I already liked mahjong, but being able to play it and other minigames with your party members in infinite wealth makes it way better. I dont want to listen to that lady ask where her breath mints are for the 1000th time
Can you really play mahjong with your team? I just bought infinite wealth but didn't played yet
@d1edserg yeah, it will be one of the options when you start a game. You can play any other gambling with your party too, like koi koi, poker, etc
I remember my first exposure to mahjong was from mahjong soul, it was abit complicated but after reading it's guide book i sort of understood the game but at the same time didn't become competitive with it, however at least it does a better job at being fun for both people who play it for fun and people who are new to it, so when i got yakuza 0 i almost gave up on the mini game for 100% competition because of it, the text book doesn't do enough to help you understand it from a basic perspective and the a.i were horrendous, so i looked up a guide and people told me it was just rng based
I don't mind Mahjong. I don't enjoy watching streamers and let's players do like 3 hours of it.
My 639th attempt at getting 7 pairs trophy in yakuza 4
I do have the fortunate luck of learning how to play mahjong way way before playing the Yakuza series. So when playing Mahjong in Yakuza, i just need to learn what is Dora & Red Dora. And yes i gotta admit, i do love playing Mahjong - unlike Outrun, Fantasy Zone, Pachiko
But i gotta admit at times i can get rage & annoyed while playing the mini game as the video said - RNG.
Lord knows how many times i lost as i gotten Richii. Not to mention when i win, its just a meager amount, while if the AI won either by Tsumo or other tile, it would win BIG.
Worst case that happened to me before, after i discard my tile, ALL 3 AI's immediately declared Richii. So yeah.. i can understand why long time fans of Yakuza can hate this mini game that much.
How did you played mahjong before without knowledge about Dora. Were you playing different style mahjong?
@@d1edserg In a way yeah i was probably playing different style. Let me explain
Ages ago, my friend taught me how to play mahjong in real life. So to save time and make it more simple, he just omitted some rules (including Dora i guess)
After that, even when i played on Yahoo Mahjong or ipad, there wasn't any dora (when i think about it).
It was only on Yakuza i saw the rules about Dora
Ever since learning it for Yakuza 0 I've loved mahjong and usually go down to play a round in those story moments where you "wait for _." I also have a group of friends who play yakuza and are of the 'I don't get it' or 'it's too hard' take, so one day I got them all together and we played Yakuza 0's online mahjong together, where the bots who complete hands in 5 moves wouldn't plague our experience and we could banter.
Not only did they have a fun time due to the nature of just hanging out with friends, but since they weren't stressed they actually started learning a few mechanics and details about the game. I call that a win-win. Whoever you may be, if you're reading this I implore you if you can make a group of 4 people who like yakuza, go play Yakuza 0's online mahjong. All you have to do is hit the join game button at the same time and you're practically guaranteed to play together since it's incredibly unlikely for anyone else to be on.
I still haven't 100% yakuza kiwami 2 because over 30 hours have been spent trying to get lucky to draw tsumo. I hate it because I'm not bad at Mahjong; I do well at gatherings. But I can't play strategically, I have to get lucky 28 times (you get to cheat twice or something)
once i learned you can win by getting doubles and triples of the same tile this basic b*tch info was enough for me to finally start winning and no longer being afraid of majong, i still know very little about more advanced hands and ways to win but knowing triples and doubles is enough for me haha
1. Never pon a number tile or a wind that is not yours or table
2. Form any threes (ascending or 3 of the same tile) and a single pair to win
To win at mahjong you just don't pon and chi anything you can, the end
IMHO going for open toitoi works pretty well in yakuza...consider just going for it if you have enough pairs/triples in hand
the computer doesn't really try to avoid playing into it
I learned how to play Mahjong and Hanafuda thanks to Yakuza: Like a Dragon, love both!
Oh, I love Mahjong, at least the ones put out by RGG. I was basically forced to learn how to play it, alongside Shogi, back when Yakuza 2 came out years ago. It's now my go-to early money maker if there's nothing better.
I personally love Judgment's version, introducing the Wareme rule. Double output when winning. :D
I never once thought I'd have a change of heart when i learned mahjong
I actually love mahjong. I'd take it any day, any time, instead of HOSTESSES and CATFIGHTS.
As any other strategy (gambling) game, you just need to know what probability you'll get certain tiles and keep an eye on everyone else's at the same time. Getting started at no knowledge whatsoever is always going to be difficult. This is like putting chess into its place, if you dont know how to play you'll have to learn how to.
(not) fun fact: It took me 6 years of playing yakuza to realise you have to press a button to check if you can call riichi. And I was wondering why I was losing so much, I was unintentionally only going for tsumo
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This video had to happen eventually 🤣🤣 Well done!
Thank you! Hoping to see another mahjong stream on your channel in the future 😄
I have two states of Mahjong playthrough.
"Haha, I am the triple Dora king!"
"Tripple riichi, just rob me entirely."
It can't be done, because there is "atamahane" rule in yakuza, like it happens in most IRL mahjong parlors. So even if two or more people will call "ron" on you, there still will be only one who'll rob ya
I love mahjong! ❤
WEAKNESS
Couldn't have said it better myself 🥂
Also thank you for the shout-outs! *^_^*
As I understand it just enough to luck through it even on the highest difficulty (without ever being good enough to consistently win), I don't hate it... unless they load up the completion list with a bazillion variations on Win, like Judgment did.
At least it didn't just give up at presenting Asian mini-games like Sleeping Dogs did and just go "poker with mahjong tiles" for the dullest mini-game with the longest commute.
In kiwami 2 you will receive 2 mahjong cheat items in one playthrough.
Maybe you don't believe me but I finished 7 new game plus just to complete mahjong trophy in K2 instead of learning how to play it.
you guys can shit-talk mahjong all you want but the real estate minigame in 0 took 58 hours of my life away that i will never, EVER get back...