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There's nothing to dislike about this young man. Nothing. His playing is absolutely flawless, fluid and impeccable. It's obvious it comes from his soul, not from a lesson, or a chord chart. Then to listen to him speak is nearly as wonderful as his playing. A modest well informed person. It would be worth the trip to London to go have a bite to eat with him, see him play and just talk guitars and music. What a cool young person. He's got my vote.
Well done.
Agree
Yuck
@@GabeCastle I'm sorry honey. Go find a crib and a baby bottle.
I think Chris lives in South Wales so he may be closer to you than you thought (?)
Was never really into solo guitar. Until Chris Buck
I was never in to tossing another man’s salad until……
How did you guess; Chris Buck
Only rythm? You dont wanna make it cry or sing?
Nice job on this Chris! And the playing? …memorable as always.
I always enjoy a discussion on one pickup guitars. Limitations breeding creativity and all that.
Well to name a few players that made it work, Billie Joe Armstrong on his Les Paul Junior or his "Blue", the late great Eddie Van Halen on his frankenstrat (the neck and middle were out of the circuit, just dummy pick-ups so people wouldn't be trying to copy his sound. And last but certainly not least Malcolm Young on his Gretch Jet. One pick-up guitars kick some serious butt
Always the sign of a great craftsman what they can do with minimal tools. Chris not only delivers but his fluency absolutely soars with one pickup two knobs arrangement.
One of my favorites is a single pickup 1950s Silvertone. Only a middle pickup. It limits you so much, but it has this *wicked* sound. Short scale with a single middle pickup sounds very fat. Cleans are really unique, too.
I feel like a goldfoil neck and a P90 brodge would make a KILLER combo 😍
Chris Buck is the best of guitar: talent, tone, dynamics, and an amazing ear for good guitar sound. But where he stands above ALL other guitarists: Intelligent, articulate, prepared, knowledgeable, all with humility.
That intro jam was so heavy. The world needs more of that,much, much more.
True!!
He amazingly is somehow better every time I hear him. This intro was Sick.
The sound of the gold foil pup is like taking a blanket off of the P90! Wowzer! Stunning.
It’s not the pickups. It’s not the guitar. It’s your playing. Holy shit dude.
Chris, there are two strains of vintage Gold Foils: Rowe-DeArmonds made in Cleveland, USA and featured in many Harmony, Airlines, and other guitars. These are the Dan Auerbach, St. Vincent, Jack White pickups with the midrangey tone. Teisco from Japan made its own version with a much sharper tone, as Japan was in the middle of a full blown Ventures obsession at the time and thus they wanted big surf tones; Ry Cooder uses a Teisco in his famous guitar. It seems most of the reissues are based on the Japanese version.
When you turn down the gain and all that amp modeling stuff, you can hear the difference.
You’re absolutely correct. I like both styles - but the two are noticeably different from each other. In my experience, the Rowe-DeArmond are high output pickups often in the 10k range & can hit the front end of an amp or pedals hard with a rich wide voice, while the Teisco MIJ ones tend to be much much lower output, but can be full of gritty, biting personality. Oddly enough they both tend to sound amazing on guitars set up for slide. I would say that this has to be due, at least partially, to the tendency that both have towards being somewhat microphonic :)
Vote is in. Decided to go with some bloke from Newport I'd never heard of. Might regret it - appears the guy may be an Arsenal fan!
Up the Gunners! 👍
Some gold foils use rubberized ferrite magnets and others use ceramic magnets. Opinions vary as to which "sound better", with preferences leaning this way and that. I have one with a ceramic magnet that I have been *very* slowly rewinding.
Perhaps the most salient aspect of the gold-foils is the baseplate. It is a soft iron structure, bent upwards on one side, to conduct the bottom pole of the magnet to "the top". The row of adjustable screws one sees on these pickups can make them look like a dual-coil of some sort, when you don't think too long about it. But they only screw into the bent side of the baseplate. There is NO coil underneath them. I once disassembled an Epiphone New Yorker pickup I had on a guitar (the pickup was since given to Mark Knopfler many years ago; don't know what he did with it), and found that it too shared the properties of *looking* like some sort of dual-coil mini-humbucker, with the row of adjustable screws close to one side simply going into an extended part of the baseplate.
If these are of some form of DeArmond origin, that would make perfect sense to me. I was given the task of rewinding a 1948 DeArmond pickup a couple years ago, and it had one of the weirdest magnet configurations I've ever seen. It had two separate bar magnets in line, with a brass spacer between the larger one for E thru G, the spacer under B, and another small bar magnet for E, plus a metal "tongue" that extended out from the E. That someone who designed that might also consider bending a baseplate upwards to shift the magnetic field would not surprise me in the least.
The P90 *also* extends the magnetic field, from the keeper bar in the middle, using two mirror-image bar magnets. The coil goes around the keeper bar, though, rather than around the magnet itself, as it does in a gold-foil. How much, or what kind, of a difference that makes is above my pay-grade. The bar magnets also extend the magnetic field outwards in *both* directions (neckwards and bridgewards). But, that aside, the bent baseplate transforms a gold-foil into something distantly related to a dual-blade pickup, with the field being between the raised/bent side and the top of the magnet, all the while remaining a single-coil.
Experts can feel free to weigh in, but my understanding is that affixing soft iron to any coil will change its inductance, hence pickup resonance. From that perspective, I suspect too much attention is focussed on the coil, to the neglect of what the baseplate does *to* the coil and ultimately the tone.
All of THAT said, I have never seen the inside of any gold foils that have their row of screws in the middle of the pickup, rather than along one edge, so I can't speak to what their internal structure is or whether they sound anything like the looks-like-a-dual-coil types. I have a bunch of older Japanese single coils with plastic bobbins and coils around a soft iron keeper bar, sitting atop a ceramic magnet. Wouldn't surprise me if that group of pickups also used gold foil for aesthetic reasons but behaved quite differently.
That was well worth reading you very " professional pickup nerd". Thank you for taking all that time to write such a informative piece of music trivia/fact. I love stuff like that.....Rock on till " ya fingas' bleed!"
Thank you very much !
Voted for you Chris, There was no other choice. haha
Love the A/B with P90 guitar, like a picture it’s worth a thousand words
I agree. Hearing pickups on clean tones is particularly revealing.
I've played guitar for almost 30 yrs and just discovered Chris Buck....apparently I've been under a rock! One of my top guitar icons right now! Love everything he does
I have just discovered Chris. After 45 years of playing guitar, Chris has invigorated my love of guitar. What a gifted and humble young man.
Dropped my vote for you !
I guess I just feel like I prefer Mayer, just to say..
But your well deserved votes MUST make labels company realize, through you, and your good job with Cardinal Black, that there's a lot to invest and bet on some guitarist on the tube. You are one of them. No kiddin' man ! And I hope this will open an eye on others fellas!
Dude Mayer is lame are you serious?!?
@@johnluhm5598 don't miss out the point, it's more important ! And I wrote "just to say"
@@johnluhm5598 Mayer is Lame?! You mean John Mayer who over the past few years has gone on tour with the dead to sit in for Jare Bbear?!
Waiter I’ll have a triple of whatever he’s having plus your best base to smoke through my new water bong!! NO NOT THE SCHWAG YOU BEEN SELLING HIM your GOOD STUFF THAAAANX!!
@@johnluhm5598 always the ones with full names and no pfps, huh?
Slowing your videos down to .75x speed really helps me to witness what’s amazing about your playing. Forget just the fretting hand, the way your picking hand really helps drive the tension and control of your playing is unreal. Well f’ing done….
Holy hell, that intro was sick.
A few years ago picked up an LP copy that someone had completely stripped, filled all the holes, slapped a trapeze tailpiece on it, and stuck a 60s Harmony goldfoil in the bridge position. I bought it for 70 bucks and was really just interested in the nice hardshell case and was just going to sell the pickup to get my money back, or so I thought. I grabbed it while in a hurry to get to a rehearsal and was a bit aggravated when I opened my gig bag and found that hideous thing where my Tele was supposed to be. Anyways, I plugged into the Silverface Princeton I was using at the time and Holy S&%t I was blown away. It has been my main guitar ever since. A few hundred gigs later and I cant put the dang thing down.
If there is somebody who can play a Gold Foil pickup, that is Chris Buck.
I humbly go for a Tex Mex. Hehehehe.
Crazy suggestion: make a humbucker with two single coils side by side, say, two Fender 69 or two Texas Special... or mix them up. The combinations are endless, including parallel and series wiring.
With some poetic license, the Chris Buck pickup could be called the "Chris humBuck". Hehe.
Cheers, Chris!
Vote cast... very easy vote for you. Best of luck with it... well deserved!!
True gold foils sounds godly! So much clarity
You got a vote from Terra Australis Incognita, Chris; and I'm a Nile Rodgers freak to boot. Good luck with the voting - u rock properly deadly bra, gr8 stuff this channel.
Far too much guitar is nowhere near enough! - Keep up the gr8 work, from a permanently mentally-guitarded guitarcheologist guitarasaurus since 1979.
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Chris your right hand work is a thing of beauty. So great to hear you express the way you do. Awesome.
You got my vote Chris, keep up the good work!
Prefer the P90s but they do sound great! Though your playing is mostly responsible for that.
I agree. I slightly prefer the P90, but the gold foil does have something cool going on
What p90os Chris using in his revstar?
@@physiciansassist1 i believe they are Yamaha's own P90s (VP5 p90s i think they're called)
Goldfoil, hands down for me. Know nothing about them, but they really sounded better than the p90 to me.
The gold foil definitely has more clean clarity and defined top end. I still like P-90’s for that dirty and gritty overdrive tone.
Buck's in da house!
Uh, Bucks Da "Man".
My favourite pickup by far, I picked up a set of mojo Firebird sized goldfoils to see what all the hype was about and I'll never look back.
0:25 switch was smooth and flawless!
Dude this is wild I was just doing some personal research on these pickups and you came to save the day. If you see this try them with slide they are amazing Slide pickups...
That ending solo was something else! I honestly don't understand how Chris isn't more well known!
That solo at the end. MY GOD MAN. The OG solo was killer, but something else came through on that one. Definitely more high end. Playing as good as ever. And most importantly, it sounds like Chris Buck
You know the unfortunate thing about watching your videos is that inevitably I have to try whatever you unique thing you're demoing on any particular week hahah. That and I find myself attempting to quasi mimic parts and pieces of your style in my home playing and live playing hahaha. That is to say that I am in no means doing them justice. But I along with all of your followers do appreciate your very comprehensive reviews and truly appreciate that you do the historical research on these items. Golf clap for you from all the guitar nerds out there. We appreciate you Chris!
Very nice sounding pick-up. The whole instrument has become closer to the original 1969 SG. I mean that we can destinctively clear hear how guitar wood sounds like. The best runs of Gibson and Fender are famous for this. That is great!
This is the blueprint for a good pickup comparison!
I have 2 DeArmond Rowe goldfoils in my 1960 Harmony Stratotone. This is a short scale hollow body.... Chris' comments about the wild harmonics are correct, and the effects are are amplified in the Stratotone by the loose arrangement of a wooden bridge and a trapeze tailpiece! Also the strings tend to pop out of the bridge slots because of the shallow angle causing pings and creaks if you play it hard - it's a lot of fun!
That ending solo, daaaaamn.
I am a big fan of these pickups. I've put them on three of my guitars, including a baritone. The delicate high end is very musical. The sound is very scooped, with almost no mids, and a smooth and deep low-end. It blends marvellously with instruments that emphasize the mids.
YAY! Thanks for another great edition of Friday Fretworks! Gold Foils are cool. I’ve combined them (in the neck position) with some other string-through Lollar pickups (in the bridge position. Totally amazing.
Bloody hell the clean sustain on both those guitars!
Superb as always - voted for you in the poll too👍
Voted for Chris. Literally one of my favourite guitarists of all time. One of the best things about UA-cam has been finding Chris, Matt Schofield and Dave Simpson. Insane guitar players.
Or in the case of Dave Simpson, simply insane 🤣🤣 mad as a box of frogs 🐸🐸🐸
Whoa!!! That intro jam was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘🤘
I voted for you. Why? Because there's a reason behind your solos. It's not all flash nor is it intellectual noodling. Back in the day, I could listen to Jeff beck on "Wired" and sing along with improvised solos. Same with Paul Desmond on sax with Dave Brubeck Quartet. And I'll bet if I listened to your solos, I'd be singing along with them after a few plays. There's a train of thought, a coherent stream of consciousness going on. I'm 60, a guitarist and no noob. Kudos.
You just got my vote! Cheers!
Voted for you mate, Love all the UA-cam vids you make too !
Everything you do on your channel is AMAZING!!! I voted for you. And certainly deserve the title. There are many great guitar players in this world. Chris Buck is not only on that list? He’s on top of it!!! 🎸👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
that riff should be definitely added to a song Chris... hell.. Royal Blood-ish ... SUPER COOL
That intro tone reminded me instantly of Focus - Hocus Pocus
Great playing Chris! Your phrasing, and the notes you play are at least equal to, if not better than the most revered guitar players of our time! BTW, 44 gauge wire is extremely thin!
Heck yes I voted. Great session as always - I've had or have humbuckers, various single coils, P90s and... yes .. "hi gain" pickups but never a gold foil. Whether it's Cooder or Isbell however they do have a fascination for me - sounds spanking in that Revstar "junior" (I regret selling mine... alas). And curse you and the big hands capable of the thumb low e walk down ... was trying to think how I could manage that and the answer is I can't...
I guess I'm your mirror universe copy, because I can do the thumb walkdown, but not anything else he did!
That custom Revstar is beautiful
Fantastic! Bonus bit of Cardinal Black - Warm Love at the end too. Can’t wait to see you guys at The Patriot in a couple of weeks 😎
My word! That was a fine solo at the end! Great tone too.
They sound awesome! Better than the P90s
I have a vintage Harmony H75 with gold foils. I tend to think of them as being more closely related to Gretsch pups than anything else. But then, not quite.
Me too! What's the serial number on your H75? Mine is 1337.
@@cuankorsten Sorry, my mistake. Mine is an H72.
Chris, your playing is simply amazing….I love every video you post. Thx!
You've got my vote!
Thank you for all the music and content. Love it, Keep it coming
I’ve got a Teisco, in fact the same model briefly shown in this video, with three goldfoils. The tone pot works in reverse, which spooked me when I first plugged the guitar in. “This thing sounds like mud!” 🤣 They do have an airy high end combined with a dark-ish midrange. I like ‘em!
Hey Chris, I voted for you man! I've never played a gold foil pickup guitar but I am now intrigued. Sounds great
Well,....in a weird chain of events in my guitar journey,....I've had several experiences with gold foils. It was early in my guitar playing days I owned several guitars in row,.......with gold foils. A Hohner Deluxe (basically a 335). A weird MIJ Aria Pro hollowbody (model unknown). And finally a very nice 70s DeArmond Archtop. Now,...for me,...it was a feel thing more than a huge difference in tone compared to other pickups. Dont get me wrong,..they are different in many respects tone wise. But I found that they often sounded extremely similar to single coils and P-90's. That said. Under the hand of a great player such as yourself ??? Well let's just say they are an inspiring pickup and that's where they real shine imo. Great demonstration though Chris. And yeah brother. You definitely got my vote. Take care.
P.S. where can a guy get one of those single pup Revstars brother??😍😍😍 I need that in my life. Really bad. I heard that scary word "custom". I hope it's not priced as such.😬
You should also cover Lace pickups to complete your analysis on different pickups topologies ...
That freakin' solo!
you are awesome man. even Santana just do what he likes, don't care much about the theory of pickups
Just voted for you, my man. You totally deserve it!
I did vote for you, but it hurt not to vote for St Vincent...or JM, of course.
You know, I can play the exact same chords, notes , etc. In the same order, pick hand , etc. And it just won't sound like that. He has that touch. That only a few really have.
I love Lollar pups, but I gotta say, the Guitar Fetish ferrite single coil goldfoils sound incredible, and are dirt cheap! They’re very similar to the ones on my ancient Teisco. They also sell ‘humbucking’ versions, which I’ve never tried, though I am a little curious, though I am mostly a single coil (and especially P90s) guy.
Tobad we're in 2022 now. I would have voted for you sir. Funny , Ijust put one on the neck place on my Tele.
One of my favourite kind of pickups! I have an Eastwood Airline H74 DLX set up as a baritone and that thing is an inspiration machine!
Man, I can’t even find a Revstar in stock and he’s got a sweet custom with a single pickup design lol. Love the playing and the insight, as always.
I'm guessing that the "custom" pickguard is covering the hole for the neck pickup.. 🧐
I know of not one but 2 currently for sale…. Your firstborn son for the location. I’ll be sending my imp friend RUMPLEMANS OVER TO CLAIM him if you TAKE THE BLOOD DEAL! Muahah’!!
Put a GF at the bridge when I built my bass in '66. I mix it with the neck pickup (early 60s Kaye speedbump) when I want more overtones from the flatwound strings. Yes, old school for sure.
Voted! Good luck from Prague!
I voted for you Chris, you deserve it mate
Could be due to listening through pc speakers (still good speakers, actually) but... I hear much more an extended low-end rather than hig-end, in these pickups!!!
(Great review and playing, as usual)
Excellent playing as always. Loved the tone too.
Hope you’re feeling better
With Myles Kenedy......... well done, great stuff, one of my all time fav singers..... really looking forward to hearing some of that.
All the best from Rome👍🇬🇧
I recall my first experience with an overdriven tone was on a cheap Tiesco solid body guitar back in 1973 or so, this had the gold foil pickups and 'push button' tone controls - the pickups are interesting and provide more options for the curious player
The into and outo were epic Chris, i have to try one. Love the tone of these pickups
You get my vote Chris, great playing.
Informative, interesting and musical as usual
Once again a very interesting and intelligent video 👍. PS ..You got my vote 😁
Sometimes his leads remind me of Tim Pierce. Got his own mojo for sure. Smooth transitions and all that stuff I can’t do…cheers! Vote for Chris!
Vote is in. Love the custom Revstar in this video, however still waiting for the CB Signature Revstar.. What’s the hold up Yamaha? 👍🇦🇺
I agree, I’m wanting a P90 guitar but sort of waiting on this one.
I hadn't heard of these before, but I love the sound of these.
Got interested in the Gold Foil pickup through the new Harmony range. Be going down to the guitar shop to test one out tomorrow! Thanks for the useful info and you got my vote!
Came for the playing, stayed for that custom Revstar... Yamaha really has to sell some runs of these artist builds...
Hi Brian, actually this is just a stock Black Revstar 502T with a custom plate covering the neck P90 rout, and some Grover tuners....works really well though.
Chris - I can see you soon hanging out with the guys at Radio Shop and experimenting and winding your own sets of pickups. You are becoming almost as bad as me when it comes to analysing magnetic gauss rates, Henries, resistance, wire gauge, varnish on the wire, structural engineering on pickups etc. My original guitar teacher had a solid guitar that had these big bar magnet pickups that I've still not identified - they must have been good because he was doing gigs for BBC Saturday Club. It's a fascinating subject and holds most of the secrets to those bygone guitar sounds.
Bit of a coincidence Chris, I had a HSH body lying around doing nothing and less than two weeks ago I remembered I had a couple of gold foil mini humbuckers I'd picked up to try then forgot about
Put them in with a lipstick in the middle and damn I love the guitar that's turned out to be, what surprised me about them is they handle crunch type tones extremely well, also work very well in positions 2&4 with the lipstick
I also have kind of a Nashville tele I did with filtertrons at the bridge and neck with the same model lipstick in the middle and that was my favourite 'not run of the mill' guitar, now though I'm torn between that tele and the gold foil HSH guitar for that title
Dunno if you've already done videos on filtertrons and/or lipsticks, maybe something for future Friday Fretworks episodes if you haven't?
Interesting article, sweet pickup for sure, great playing as always.. voted!
The high end of the gold is so open in comparison , much more dimensional .
insane style
Intro was F*****G RIDICULOUS
Love gold foils. At least Harmony and DeArmond.
I like all the extra harmonics and artifacts.
I never pause i Chris Buck video… unless it’s to cast a vote for him…