What does the departure of German troops mean for Mali? | DW News
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- Опубліковано 14 гру 2023
- For a decade German soldiers had been deployed to Mali as part of a United Nations peacekeeping force. But Mali's ruling junta demanded the end of the mission that was once created to help stabilise the country as it battled a jihadist insurgency.
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#Mali #Germany #Bundeswehr
The mission in Mali was not meant to last forever anyway.
non-African militaries leaving Africa means a chance for African independence.
A UN-mandated peacekeeping mission invited by a democratic government is being replaced by murderous Russian mercenaries ... and you call that independence?
Failed to improve conditions in Mali for a decade? You better leave.
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Spot on
I wonder what locals were doing for this decade 😂 Sitting waiting for improvements I guess🤣
@@jou3708 it is always interesting to note that so often those who make unintelligent, asinine remarks that wreaks of a lack of depth of understanding always seem to accompany their comments with laughing emojis.. hmmm. 👀👀.
@@bizhope007 He's right to. Locals are lazy they always begged.
If the mission has not improved with all time then you are useless there.
Good move by the German forces , let us leave Africa Nations to themselves and concentrate on our own nations wellbeing .
Its Namibia that forced them out because for decades no results shown instead more tensions increased so Namibia forced all of em out now they achieving bet5er results and the country is stabilized like central african republic
@@jonrena Good for them , has I said Europeans should concentrate on their nations and leave Africa continent to their own devices .
The Central African Republic has transformed from the most criminal place in the world in a few years into one of the calmest places. Wagner knows how to solve such problems.
It means Freedom and Independence for Mali 🇲🇱 .
more freedom and Zero money to mali..😂
@@ulihanel7078money for stolen resources??
@@ulihanel7078 And no thieves disguised as investors
@@ericwambua7210 yeah so your new friend Wagner is 😂
@@ulihanel7078 What freedom? Mali has a military dictatorship in power.
imagine if Namibia had the same courage as Mali
Imagine if Germany, Japan and Italy had the same courage as Mali.
how? these 3 countries are robbing poor countries, like it was christmas everyday@@Nastja3000
Its not others fault, Mali themselves failed to develop their own country during this long time of peacekeeping, and chosen to take underhand methods to manage their country.
@@starfalx9634 would they manage when thieves are there
@@user-bb6uh2kj8e what she mean is that amerikkkan military are in these countries, recall that these countries were defeated in ww2
There will finally be peace and tranquility in Mali.
Why are the UN TROOPS often go to countries rich in natural resources ?
Sand isn't really a valuable resource.
@@JennyeqTypical thing to say for someone like you who lacks the ability to see beyond what the media shows them.
You should ask the UN Security Council. Only the UNSC can authorise UN peacekeeping missions.
@Jennyeq
As a matter of fact, sand is a valuable resource...remember that next time you use a glass 🙃
...by the way, Mali is 3rd largest producer of gold in Africa. Now you know 😉
@@Jennyeqare you ok. Mali is rich in gold and lithium. Be quiet if you do not know anything
Calling Wagner a non state actor in 2023. Stunning.
Well its either that or stop saying Russia is a Mafia organization, you can´t have it both ways.
This is a big achievement for Mali. We want UN to leave Africa alone.
To put Chinese or Russian instead? 😂
It means Mali is now stable.
Mali, do not accept any more aid from anyone
@@nurulhudavijapurwala4936 If conspiracy theories could turn to gold, you'd be all set.
@@peabasewhat do u mean
Leave, not worth it, leave them alone
Absolutely. You say it with a lot negative energy but you are right. Stop stealing other people's resources.
@@bekisiphotshili2566 alright, let them sell themselves to Russia and China.
West will just continue to bring problems and try to divide as much as they can
France, EU are there to steal African resources.
Mali must reject the aid.
It doesn’t mean anything, since nobody including the Malians, knew they were there in the first place. :D
True
You're just not well informed. MINUSMA has been the UN's second-most dangerous peacekeeping mission to date, and there have been quite a few.
Keep playing first-person shooters and don't mind the news.
Let UN go to Ukraine, Palestine and Syria. Why only Africa
The host country has to agree to a UN mission, Mali agreed to it before the military coup. In Ukraine, Russia would veto such.
Mali doesn’t need them.
Go Mali ❤
Yeah leave those ungrateful Africans on its own. It is best solution. Help em’ for their betrayal and back-stabbing. Let em’ enjoy and suffer from its new Wagner friend. And when they beg for help, just ignore
😂😂😂😂 They have been there for over a decade and couldn't get back the capital, Wagner got it back in 2 months, and Wagner is selling weapons to the government, un did not give the government any weapons, China is making a deal to give the people homes, Russia will provide food seeds and fertilizer, what does anyone need the un for?
Why is Germany in Mali anyway? What is the nature of their relationship?
MINUSMA. A UN peacekeeping mission. Quick, read up on it.
Blah blah blah to provide development aid for mali😂😂😂😂😂Shame on you
Why are you asking an Nigerian about mali 🇲🇱? The man doesn't know anything about mali. You asking a doctor about a county security
German troops should go to Ukrain to see if they have a better chance against Russia this time....
NATO vrs Russia you mean.
Its hard to get accurate numbers but somewhere between 20-27 million Russians died in WW2 and Russia was saved by the weapons donations from the USA
Trust me, you do not want this again.
As a sidenote, Germany lost around 6-7 million soldiers in the whole war. All frontlines combined.
@@gudnikristinn weapons can not save a country, we can see it right now in Ukrain. Moreover with all the sophisticated weapons Germans troops have the result in Sahel is ZERO.
@@gudnikristinnRussia lost 6 millions soldiers in WW2 and the USSR lost 11 millions. The 16 millions others were civilians
@@Gerrard_Pike2008 Russia at the time was just a region in the USSR, just like Ukraine or Poland(edit correction:Not Poland...lets say Moldova) etc It was technically 1 country with many states.
The Russian Federation was created as an independent country in 1991 just like Ukraine and many others .
Despite this many people see Russia as the late USSR, and that includes Putin, who historically feels that he has claim to Ukrainian land because Russia inherited most of what was the USSR, which he wants to recreate if he can
For 10years , what is the result?
Good luck Mali 🙏
Up to you good luck getting them to come back
Germany should send those soldiers to Bakhmut. That's where they are needed the most and not in Africa.
It means peace and tranquility returns to Mali 🎉. This is what the Malian people want and it must be respected. 🙏🙏
Mali initially requested a UN mission, then the (for Africa typical) corrupt coup leaders were bribed by a foreign power, usually it's China this time Russia, and went against a UN mission. Not a German mission, a UN mission.
Peace? With Wagner? Good luck with that.
@@terribrad24 So Coup leaders who want a better future for their people are corrupt?
@@terribrad24after 10 years in Mali what are the results of the western missions? Now Mali is effectively fighting against terrorism, thing the UN was unable to do... As usual. 20 years in the Congo and thousands of people are still dying. The UN is useless at best...
@@terribrad24after 10 years and accomplished nothing, that's like paying for a security that but still getting robbed... Wagner went there and got the job done in 2 months.
i need a thicker indian accent for my english western news it needs to be much thicker
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Indian English 😂
The people have spoken 🇲🇱
People are spoken means what. Replacing Wagner .?? Mali 🇲🇱 and other African countries cannot defend themselves. Shame on them centuries indirect slavery
@@Driver2724don’t worry about Malians or Africans
@@GrailArmattoe-2424 why not I am from Africa
There must've been a referendum in Mali about MINUSMA that everyone but yourself missed.
Let them go
What does the departure of German troops mean for Mali? Unlike Germany, a normal country would welcome the end of foreign military occupation.
So all UN peacekeeping missions equate to military occupation in your book? You do know, right, that Germany wasn't at it alone? About a third of all the countries in the world were "occupying" Mali.
@@peabase haha, I am glad you find an excuse in military occupation. May you enjoy being under other country's thump.
So you prefer Wagner's murdering mercenaries paid by a military coup dictatorship, to a UN-mandated peacekeeping mission invited at no cost by a democratic government? Stunning.
@@chengavitch10 *Thumb. I'm not German, silly. It's funny how you jump to conclusions like a girl playing hopscotch.
It means now they will party in the name of Russia I guess.
And so????if u are not needed somewhere just leave!!!period
Why would Germany or Denmark love Mali so much than Ukraine? Why don't they send their troops in Ukraine? Answer : NATO likes cheap and easy wars. They are quick to come to Africa. They should dare Russia, or China😅😅😅😅😅😅
They did nothing but stealing the gold
Let them please leave.
If they really where they for peace and prosperity..they would have had it ..but they where they to server European interest... For those decades
Jihadi sponsors are leaving it means stability. With Russia's help Kidal was recaptured, Russia is effective and democratically loved by Malian people
Which referendum are you referred to? I must've missed the whole thing.
@@peabase The voice of the people was the referendum, Jihad sponsors are leaving that's y Sahel region is becoming stable
@@Daniella162 So there's no credible evidence behind your claim that Russia is "democratically loved by Malian people [sic]". You made it up, in other words.
@@peabasewhat are u saying
@@Daniella162long live bro
Germany that csnt even protect itself but has part of its country occupied by usa...this world and wonders
"Occupied" by what? A logistics battalion and a hospital? By this logic, Germany is currently occupying France, India is occupying Nepal and the Netherlands are occupying the USA.
They shouldnt have been there in the first place. Money better spend at home.
No more recursus pa brancus
Congratulations UN's WORLD 🌍
Africa has to try Russia and China. Enough with the west.
Boy if you think the west was underwhelming just way untill you meet the ccp and oligarchs 😂
,,,,, a thief telling others look at those thieves?
@@rafael_lana,,, a bandit saying oh others are more banditry.
As long as they dont ask for money from the west, thats fine
@@rafael_lanaI can show a lot examples of the west destroying countries the claim they are allies with, I can't find that in Russia nor China.
Zero impact 😮
The Tuareg people declared the independence of Azawad from Mali and Burkina Faso.
But got overran by Al-Qaida. At that time Islamists was a threat to Europe so the French went in.
Now they're all replaced by Russians it seems.
No the strategic objective of france was to cut the north of Mali from the south, creat a fictive state and then take control of the fresh water under the northern desert, oil, gold and uranium. The malians were more calm rational and calculative reason they outplayed france. Germany had to take its shear once the loins tooth had been removed and made useless.
Get out 🎉
Yes, bye 👋
And the second facemask of U.N e.g U.S. means that section tools will be installed
I hope these African governments realise that changing masters is not a solution but stand on their self development. Use them all for the benefit of African people
There's nothing you can teach these african states. Because mentioning "master" implies a lack of national initiatives.
Sorry but Africans can't be taking advice from those whose masters are in Washington. Funny how Germany is 'peacekeeping' in Mali while leaving their own security to US.
If soldiers fight terrorist more than two years then something is wrong
They still have to learn military skills from somewhere tho
@@TravisGunderson-ge9nhthe people who are teaching them, where did they learn? Who taught them? They need opportunity for their people.
Yeah you guys get out. We shall invite Ugandan forces that have fixed Mogadishu and now we see USA, UK and all superpower countries based in Mogadishu are there because of our brothers from Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi
Soon, the Sahel Juntas will provide support for Russia's SMO with fresh troops & other resources.
Russia has tried that already, offering to pay mercenaries from CAR and Libya to fight in Ukraine. Not a success, it appears.
Get out and stay out
And now russia and china can financially support the junta too
No more stealing resources?
Mali is very poor in resources. The total gold mined in Mali can't even fund the UN mission.
@@fidelistq that's cause, they've already mined majority of it completely empty.
All foreign troops must leave Africa. All foreign military bases must be closed in Africa.
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lies lies lies. create a problem and pretend you're the solution lol
It means they are free. Those forces were leeches, and couldn't defeat terrorism; plus they undermined the sovereignty of Mali itself
Free at last !!!!
Funny how you seem to think that trading UN peacekeepers for Russian mercenaries that are already on record for committing war crimes against African civilians is somehow an improvement. Because Moscow has such a good track record of respecting other countries' sovereignty. /s
@@ddshiranui don't believe that garbage of civilian rights disregard by Wagner's by western media . It is garbage. On the contrary, as a sovereign country, they can call the shots. Their military cooperation with Russia is better than the entire west. Russia is a rational actor, and respects human rights more than the entire west. Did you see the bombings of civilians by Israel; how about Afghanistan by the west, Iraq ...? The list goes on. Compare the calculated special military operations by Russia with minimal civilian casualties with those of the west
IMMER diese Bevormundung... Mali hat das Recht selbst zu entscheiden mit wem sie kooperieren will.... Diese Arroganz..!!
Deswegen ziehen die Truppen ja auch ab? Zu glauben, dass die Junta der Armeeputschisten auch nur annähernd so für die Bürger von Mali spricht wie die demokratisch gewählte Regierung davor klingt allerdings ziemlich naiv.
Russia has its own minerals. Most resource really ch country in the world.
It's long over due, UN France and Germany troops must leave Africa now enough is enough
We need Russia and China, they did not colonised us, they don't kill Africans and they don't interfere in our governance system, we want to adopt their system of governance
You haven't heard of the Aïgbado massacre, have you? To name just one example of what those Russian mercs are doing in Africa.
Danish-German-Dutch Police arrest eight over a suspected terrorism plot, including members of Hamas!
-Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen at a meeting with EU leaders in Brussels: "This is extremely serious."
"For a number of years now, we have seen that there are people living in Denmark who do not wish us well. Who are against our freedom and who are against Danish society, with all that it entails!"
-Flemming Drejer, PET chief superintendent: "The investigation has revealed that a network has been preparing a terrorist act!"
-Police said they had kept their terrorist alert level at 4 on a scale of 1-5, reflecting a "significant" threat.
-The three arrested in Denmark would be charged under the terrorism clause of the criminal code.
-Dec 5 Capitol Hill hearing meeting regarding open borders and accepting mass foreign students without security checks: Wray, FBI director: "I've never seen a terror threat to the US at an All-time high, even before Sep 11! Blinking Red lights are everywhere on US soil!"
Bo sai na África
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It means Russia is winning, the French colonist are losing.
Is the end of European rule
Essau is all over
africa, and african must play their part and contribute to this end, we were greatly affected by them.................
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Billions wasted again.
Great move...they can redeploy to Ukraine
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Crooks stealing gold and children
I think a lot of people want the west out. That should be respected, i pity the people for what comes next. It shouldnt be so hard to spot what happens to nations who embrace western help ( South korea, Japan, Germany, Malaysia, Qatar, emirates, China, etc etc etc... While China shifts course economically now, its not hard to spot what happens to countries that depend on anti western forces either. lol
The problem is that these same people will, in 2 seconds, turn around and make a deal with an American, European, Chinese company to extract resources or build a road and pocket 10% of the contract.
@@cdialphalet them do what they think is best for them. Their countries today now lead in the top fastest growing economies. Let them decide what is best for themselves.
@@EstaJeanette-nk7fj You must not know what corruption is.
@@cdialphathey were stuck while Europe was draining their resources 😂 let them be currupt.
@@alexanderyoung6934 no tf they weren't being helped... They were being drained for centuries, that's why they have been at the back for so long, if that is what western help look like then they are definitely better without it.
Let them go to Ukraine
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If mali becomes an anarchy mali will look up to europe again,or blame europe
If? And it's both most likely, but one privately and the other publicly.
Yes, the UN hasn’t being transparent and honest with Africa however embracing Russia’s Wagner mercenaries made up of bunch of criminals is not the best way forward.
Let’s brace for corruption at its peak and worst leadership in Africa with Russia’s influence.
Africa can also be great with no external influence. Africa’s core problem is our leadership!
I pray for change in Africa, Long Live Mama Africa and peaceful world 🙏🏾
No need to brace for anything...corruption and dictator propping has been the order of the day since the days of the Berlin Conference in 1884. In other words, it won't get any worse under Russia than it has been under Europe. At least the Russians were invited
get out thieves
Let's face it - Mali is going to the dogs though not entirely sure the dogs will want it
КОЛОНИЗАТОРЫ, УБИРАЙТЕСЬ ИЗ МАЛИ!
Putler Kommt.
Westerners never really leave... they will just change the shape of their influence.
When they put you on your knees story is changing to-you see that you need us again
God is the one who owns the world, not Europe
Maybe our leaders should stop being corrupt and then blame it on everyone else.
Off to Palestine now thanks!
german troops flee from Afghanstan. They flee from Mali. Generaly speaking they flee
Russians don't agree
The UN mission ended. But I don't think a Ruzzki bot understands what that means.
UN troops from a total of 66 countries are "fleeing" Mali as a result of MINUSMA drawing to an end, just like Germany's. You had better check that yours aren't among them, or it will be really embarrassing.
Germany cannot even secure itself let alone provide security in Africa. Usnt Germany occupyied by US? Lol 😂😂😂
Germany is unexperience, Wagner are capable in combat case close..
And now again in proper English
Wodka ist Geil, Da?
Bye, Bye west! We love Russia and President Putin!!!🐒🍌
When will US and its NATO allies withdraw its troops and close its base in Iraq, Syria and Kosovo?
US and its NATO are not there to protect the nation but to protect its interest. Just like here in the Philippines, the US forces are not deploy to give flowers, chocolate or any help. They have their own agenda and its very obvoius is to counter China growing influence. Or maybe they need more additional troops coming from the Philippines. Because they have recruitment problem and people are very busy on its LGBTQ activity.😆😆😆
Then why did you invite the Americans back? They politely vacated Clark and Subic Bay when Corazon Aquino asked them equally politely. You can't seem to make up your mind about whether you want the Americans in or out.
Correct me if am wrong, but isn't there a common interest in stemming Chinese expansionism in the South China Sea? Could it even be so that the Philippines' interests outweigh US interests in this respect? After all, the US isn't losing territory.
@@peabase everyone knows how US works. Just like EU they dont have sovereignty. Politicians are controlled by US. Same with African nation which are controlled and funded by France and thats the reason Sahel region coup.
Philippines cannot purchase an helicopter from Russia because US CAATSA and they blackmail us with Sanction.
@@peabase like what happened in Ukraine. Under Secretary Victoria Nuland said, US funded Ukrainian coup with $5 billion and install its people a pro-US.
u should move to russia. I'm sure you'll love it there!
Great RUSSIA led by beloved President Putin bring peace, prosperity and development everywhere they come. Russia will develop Africa to new unseen heights and give Africa free corn and other tasty food! Thank You, President Putin!❤💪🕊🥰
Just leave African soil thanks
They are headed to ukraine
That means Africans are free of niocolonization. ✊️
Nah. Now they have the Russians
Can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not
That is military leading mali ..Russia will only be strategic ally mali leader womt make that mistake
@@cdialphawe will take our chances ! Thanks
@@adineatha9766 Russia never enslaved nor colonized Africa nor Africans
UN Troops. Exploitation Troops.