30 Years of Reforestation Success

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Haiti Reforestation Partnership is celebrating 30 years of reforestation success.
    To learn more, please visit www.haitireforest.org

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  • @thelamegoat8035
    @thelamegoat8035 3 роки тому +68

    I have brought a 53 Acer farm in Tasmania Australia and iv planted 1000 trees and shrubs my plan is to plant 5000 native plants over a 5 year plan

    • @hdgzhvfrujve9986
      @hdgzhvfrujve9986 3 роки тому +7

      Keep going you make our world to a better place

    • @Mr.Mister420
      @Mr.Mister420 2 роки тому +7

      Same I bought 19000 acres is Brazil ..
      I plant around a 100 trees regularly

    • @thelamegoat8035
      @thelamegoat8035 2 роки тому +4

      @@Mr.Mister420 good on you plant more trees growing back the forest

    • @Mr.Mister420
      @Mr.Mister420 2 роки тому +3

      @@thelamegoat8035 thanks but I am just a kid I did that in Minecraft ..
      I'm sorry

    • @Mr.Mister420
      @Mr.Mister420 2 роки тому +1

      @@thelamegoat8035 but I will plant in future definately

  • @YBC-qf3ve
    @YBC-qf3ve 3 роки тому +52

    Reforestation with eucalyptus, although fast, will be problematic in the long run. In my region those trees are drying the land and causing fires every year.

    • @therealarchstanton3343
      @therealarchstanton3343 3 роки тому +20

      yes, need to be used only for transition. Harvest the timber, then slowly replace with local species

    • @atiyabacchus1208
      @atiyabacchus1208 3 роки тому +7

      YESSSS - they have t o replace them with all native species. Both vetiver and eucalyptus are foreign species.

    • @jkxjj
      @jkxjj 3 роки тому +7

      Yep. Very bad idea. Seen many native forests taken over by eucalyptus

    • @msdramamusic
      @msdramamusic 3 роки тому +2

      Eucalyptus also stunts the growth of other species. Get need more nitrogen trees.

    • @18booma
      @18booma 2 роки тому

      True. Robben Island (prison Island where Mandela was imprisoned) has been taken over by Eucalyptus. These trees and other invasive species have ruined the ground water table and indigenous plantlife. It's still beautiful as the Eucalyptus makes it's own forest, but in areas that are more arid I can't imagine how harmful it would be allowing it to get out of hand.

  • @melaniamonicacraciun9900
    @melaniamonicacraciun9900 2 роки тому +1

    Every time we find the strength to turn back, loving Mother Nature, She is always so grateful, giving back the satisfaction of life friends, there are not only trees growing up but these people of Haiti blooming like trees . . . wonderful action , hoping our invisible friends in the cyber audience will get involved, getting a new business partnership out there, the most beautiful adventure of life indeed. Hoping more people will decide to get back the symbiotic relationship with Mother Earth as we should... let's save the planet together friends

  • @patrickflynn6423
    @patrickflynn6423 3 роки тому +12

    All countries should have massive tree planting programs , children should be able to get involved as they will not forget that they are helping their country and the planet to reduce carbon as they are the future and they will be doing it for their children .

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      We are lucky that our Haitian partners work as a community and we also have a nursery at the local school so kids learn our methods.

    • @jasonsha6844
      @jasonsha6844 2 роки тому

      There is a billion tree planting thing going on world wide not shore who is running that but it is world wide

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      @@jasonsha6844
      Sounds like it should be more than that...

  • @gaius_enceladus
    @gaius_enceladus 2 роки тому +10

    Great stuff!
    Again, I want to point out that their former plight was not caused by "climate change" but by using land badly. As soon as *that* is addressed and changed, things get better!

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +4

      Yes, the original issue was the colonial rule and the lure of the hardwood trees. When they had cut them all down, none was replaced. That was centuries ago and became a long-standing issue to add to the list that reinforced the poverty and difficulties for Haitians. Reforestation does a number of things -- helps people; helps the economy; helps the environment; and obviously helps reduce the amount of carbon in the air instead by locking it back into vegetation. Thank you for your note!

    • @evilchaperone
      @evilchaperone Рік тому +1

      Absolutely. Humans have been terrible stewards of the land and resources. Not just in the west, but globally. Don't forget, half of the worlds population died from the plague less than a 1,000 years ago. The population has nearly tripled in my lifetime to almost 8 billion. 100 years ago, when there was less than 2 billion people, resources seemed endless. Today, we know that humans are just overpopulation what is sustainable.

  • @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265
    @carmengloriamugaastudillo1265 3 роки тому +3

    PRIORIDAD para todos los países del mundo. Juntos podemos REFORESTAR árboles nativos para que VUELVA el ciclo de vida. Los árboles regulan la temperatura en la corteza TERRESTRE. No existiría el calentamiento global. No existiría el cambio climático. Nuestros ANIMALES nos necesitan.

  • @evagreub1908
    @evagreub1908 3 роки тому +1

    Das ist so wunderschön, nur mit der Natur gemeinsam kann leben gelingen. Ein grosses Herz für alle beteiligten.

  • @hiiii2849
    @hiiii2849 3 роки тому +2

    Thank God for Americans

    • @mynamejeff3545
      @mynamejeff3545 2 роки тому +1

      Well, not really, since it was America, along with France, who caused Haiti to be in this sorry state in the first place. Forcing Haiti to pay back billions to the French slaveowners for loss of property, massive embargoes, "foreign aid" with interest and strings attached, etc.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      @@mynamejeff3545
      That was a particular government regime, rather than 'Americans' per se...

    • @mynamejeff3545
      @mynamejeff3545 2 роки тому

      @@b_uppy If the collective action of the American government over the last 230 years, continuing to this day, do not define the American people, then neither do the actions of those few individual Americans who lend a hand to help protect its forests. Don't get me wrong, it's good that people in more fortunate circumstances are trying to help, but to say "Thank God for Americans" is like if someone burns down your house and business, refuses to pay back for the damage caused, then gets showered with praise for helping you plant some flowers once you're completely destitute.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      @@mynamejeff3545
      Well, considering that among other thingsthe US had a Civil War I think the takeaway is that Americans are changeable and working towards improvement...

  • @tedharrison4109
    @tedharrison4109 2 роки тому +1

    I would recommend including bamboo. They grow quickly , and have tremendous economic potential at the same time.

    • @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784
      @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784 2 роки тому

      Maybe, but it's better to plant native trees rather than plants that are not native. If they were talking about China then yes I would agree.

  • @rudolphmurphy1847
    @rudolphmurphy1847 3 роки тому +1

    I think it's key to use plants that fit the landscape, climate, etc, even if the process is started with other plants as some commenters indicate, fire problems, etc.
    I pray that these processes are positive and not just a popular fun thing to generate personal gains for as humans we do get off on such tangents... I trust God with all I do and hope you look for His blessings too. All the best.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +1

      Your concerns are justified given how difficult it is to balance the needs of nature and the immediate needs of the people in the area. That's precisely why the forests could never get started again because people were so poor and cut down any available tree for fuel. We are very very very lucky that our project weathered the first ten - then 20 - then 30 years. Part of the deal is that everyone learned that planting a tree is a FIVE YEAR affair because only after five years will it be big enough that it isn't easy to cut it down. So, the protocol for our partners, CODEP, is to plant and then watch and protect each tree. The more than survived and the more that were visible from the Jacmel Road -- the more everyone became committed to seeing this work. Thank you for caring and sending a note.

  • @alberpajares4792
    @alberpajares4792 3 роки тому +4

    We are in touch echo-partners.., ♥️

  • @rudolphmurphy1847
    @rudolphmurphy1847 3 роки тому +6

    I have dreamt of doing this and wondered why no one did but now I see there are many dreamers, well done. I thought of making low earth dams in the lower areas to slow down runoff and trap silt, forming an oasis like environment as a start. The water table will be raised and growth accelerated so there is a catalyst in every convenient place for growth to expand from. Australia has a similar success story to share ideas from... All the best.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      We are a volunteer organization and this last year has been very hard -- so, apologies for not acknowledging this at the time. It is, yes, all about the water shed areas. Locking down the soil is so important -- and only then will trees thrive and the cycle will begin that is healthy and protected. We start with vetiver grass as the first steps in holding the soil. Best wishes.

    • @rudolphmurphy1847
      @rudolphmurphy1847 2 роки тому

      @@HaitifundincOrgCODEP I see easy solutions with the right land and equipment. A good watershed with flat land to build a delta by making a large, low earth dam, let erosion bring soil and water to you and trap it. This sets up an oasis to start the process easily and allow it to progress as naturally as possible. There are accidental forest examples like this... I dreamed of reforesting the landscape when I flew over and saw the contrast in the 80s... May God bless your efforts. All the best.

  • @vivekprabhu2651
    @vivekprabhu2651 3 роки тому +2

    Wonderful. Hope Miyawaki forest method might increase the forest cover on those mountains.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      We hope our methods are noted, learned and used. It helps when the forests are now so visible from the Jacmel Road up and over the mountains. People notice, talk, and ask about it.

  • @seaniiiykashanian114
    @seaniiiykashanian114 4 роки тому +6

    We need to do more

    • @mikediffey1217
      @mikediffey1217 3 роки тому

      You need to do more.

    • @Mr.Mister420
      @Mr.Mister420 3 роки тому

      I need to do more

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +1

      Yes. We can join in solidarity with these 750 Haitians who are the backbone of this work. Much of their time is volunteered -- and think of that, given they are impoverished and often short on food these days in the political and economic turmoil of the country. Yet, they plant those trees faithfully. What we can do is donate to help them. www.haitireforest.org The good news is that this is not a flash in the pan or something that is a promise (not an accomplished fact.) If you give to anything, consider Haiti Reforest because it is real and good and a model.

  • @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784
    @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing this 🙋🏼‍♀️ please keep up the good work 🌲🌳🌴🏞️🌎🌍🌏💚

  • @RonaldL.MAngela.vaught17HH
    @RonaldL.MAngela.vaught17HH Рік тому

    I like annd recommended pepper trees too.

  • @joaopaulocosta9554
    @joaopaulocosta9554 2 роки тому

    Todos temos que ter esse desejo de reflorestamento senão nosso futuro será muito ruim. Agrofloresta nos ensina que dá pra produzir alimentos sem agredir a natureza

  • @sheetalbhalerao8192
    @sheetalbhalerao8192 3 роки тому +3

    Very good. Keep up greening. Haiti.Also plant other plants such as jamun ,Jackfruit(vegetable meat),Lichi ,badam,dates etc /,Ritha, shakekai,for soap,for medicine neem ,shatawari, kadamb,palash ,karanj ,babool/banyan, peeple, umber r shelters,food giving trees for birds, animals, .

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      Yes -- once you get started, there is so much that can be done.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      Morning, too.

  • @concordrajpushpa
    @concordrajpushpa 3 роки тому +2

    Nice idea

  • @mikesorensen1981
    @mikesorensen1981 3 роки тому +1

    This is wonderful to change the culture and planting trees! The soil does not look fertile, next step is fixing the soil. They are hardworking people and need a purpose to help rebuild their country🌴🌴🌿🌞

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      You are absolutely right. The soil is the first priority because it is like a moonscape -- so denuded. But the amazing thing is that our Haitian partners have hung in there for THIRTY YEARS -- slowly building the soil, protecting the seedlings, and watching the growth. And it has happened and now shows everyone that it does, indeed, promise a better future for the children.

  • @b_uppy
    @b_uppy 2 роки тому +2

    They should plant tree seeds, in their yards, at every opportunity. Less effort, faster growth, and nearly everyone could do it...
    An emphasis on food crops and coppicing opportunities for livestock feed/timber would add economic value to a nation with a poor state of resiliency. For example many trees produce edible beans such a locust trees and mesquite. They encourage nitrogen fixation and the leaves can be fed to livestock...

  • @Raeeee100
    @Raeeee100 3 роки тому +1

    💚

  • @josephmarrero5373
    @josephmarrero5373 3 роки тому +2

    AWESOME

  • @evilchaperone
    @evilchaperone Рік тому

    Great work. Humans have been terrible stewards of the land and resources. Not just in the west, but globally. Don't forget, half of the worlds population died from the plague less than a 1,000 years ago. The population has nearly tripled in my lifetime to almost 8 billion. 100 years ago, when there was less than 2 billion people, resources seemed endless. Today, we know that humans are just overpopulating what is sustainable.

  • @kristinangelicatubig6680
    @kristinangelicatubig6680 3 роки тому

    sanaol

  • @bencrawshaw1227
    @bencrawshaw1227 3 роки тому

    Yeah trees will be putting the world right long after were gone.

  • @Nick-vl7lk
    @Nick-vl7lk 4 роки тому +8

    Did you/they do any watershed development? For example leaky dams and berms?

    • @willm5814
      @willm5814 3 роки тому

      I was wondering the same thing - water catchment is critical I didn’t hear anything about swales - the key piece in permaculture design - also didn’t hear much about the food forest concept - they certainly are doing a lot of good though !

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +2

      We are so short of volunteers, we are not responding as we should. Many apologies but let me answer now. They do terrace the hills very carefully so that the upper levels are deep ditches that can capture water which then supports seedlings further down the mountain. No dams. The improvement -- 30 years and 15+ million trees -- is clear during major storms. During Matthew a couple years ago, our rivers down to the bay did not wash out any roads. All the others did. It was remarkable to see.

    • @Nick-vl7lk
      @Nick-vl7lk 2 роки тому

      @@HaitifundincOrgCODEP Thanks for replying, very glad to hear you are seeing results. Hope you find volunteers soon and good luck with the work.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      Planting in zai pits would be a clever way to overcome some problems...

  • @Flumstead
    @Flumstead 3 роки тому +2

    May biochar restore your land.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      You can increase soil carbon other ways. Certain wastes headed for the dump may be the most practical and effective way to make biochar otherwise. Rice hulls make a superior biochar to biochar from trees.

  • @nurgarciaterrassa8593
    @nurgarciaterrassa8593 2 роки тому +2

    @Ecosia check this!

  • @guybartlett9587
    @guybartlett9587 Рік тому

    Subbed

  • @truthlove1114
    @truthlove1114 3 роки тому +1

    What a great project. We need more of this globally

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      You are talking to the believers here in Haiti. We had to show that it works but now with over 30 years of "proof" people are noticing. Our job now is to share the story.

  • @culbinator
    @culbinator 3 роки тому +8

    Trees are the answer to a better world. We should be worshipping trees

  • @sheetalbhalerao8192
    @sheetalbhalerao8192 2 роки тому

    Hariyali hai jaha. Kushhali hIi waha means nature's wealth is ours health

  • @catherinemartin6258
    @catherinemartin6258 3 роки тому +2

    👏👏👏👏👏

  • @valeriec.4756
    @valeriec.4756 3 роки тому +2

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏

  • @rudolphmurphy1847
    @rudolphmurphy1847 3 роки тому

    What I have found is that if soil is secured, even in small areas and a process begins, nature takes over as birds drop seeds and insects move in with their own things to add and an ecosystem develops naturally that can then be enhanced and guided for best results. Bless.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +1

      We apologize for not acknowledging this when you sent it. We are a small volunteer organization helping our partners in Haiti and so our priority is Haiti focused -- we always vow we will do better with our social media communications. However, your comments are absolutely right on. This is what we know and believe -- let the forests get to a point they can regenerate and the birds will return!

    • @rudolphmurphy1847
      @rudolphmurphy1847 2 роки тому

      @@HaitifundincOrgCODEP thank you, God bless.

  • @nicklomas6017
    @nicklomas6017 3 роки тому +4

    Fantastic work
    Do you apply regenerative no till farming worm bins, compost toilets etc
    It seemed soil conditions could be improved
    Plant food forests to help economy of the poor
    Keep ground covered, chop and drop etc.
    The work and achievements are fantastic
    Nick Lomas
    England

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      We do not - yet. We are small/volunteer and our Haitian partners are stretched just to do the nurseries and seed planting and protection. We're hoping that by spreading the word, more people will learn about this fantastic project and offer support. WE have so many many ideas of other good things to do now that the reforestation work is better embedded in the culture.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      Add solar ovens from recycled chip bags, too...

  • @seaboltd350
    @seaboltd350 3 роки тому +35

    I like the intent but I have to be critical. I just wish native trees of Haiti were used and not eucalyptus. Eucalyptus trees with their oily leaves are worst thing in a fire.. You do not want forest fires to be on the list of disasters in Haiti. Pinus caribaea or some tropical hardwoods would be a better choice like mahogany. Native trees will bring back wildlife and maybe some tourist.

    • @josecarvajal6654
      @josecarvajal6654 3 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing. At the other side of the border (although very few and threatened) we still preserve some native forests from different altitudes and ecosystems, wich I think should be replicated all around the island

    • @wolfganghuss3352
      @wolfganghuss3352 3 роки тому +1

      yes of course !! the right way (today up to date) is perma+urculte !!
      this what we do in hungary ..3-5 x more fruits ... look to our kanal

    • @abundantlyhealthyforever1419
      @abundantlyhealthyforever1419 3 роки тому +3

      Eucalyptus sucks up all the ground water and should be used only in marshy areas. Wrong choice of tree here in this region.

    • @allgodsnomasters2822
      @allgodsnomasters2822 3 роки тому +3

      reforestation not using native trees isnt reforestation at all its coloniapism

    • @nepthaliegloria8666
      @nepthaliegloria8666 3 роки тому

      adding several varieties of fruit trees can make difference

  • @guybartlett9587
    @guybartlett9587 Рік тому

    She fell in love with what? I couldn't understand it

  • @pawanjindal4286
    @pawanjindal4286 2 роки тому +1

    great work

  • @bernadettemccluskey2812
    @bernadettemccluskey2812 3 роки тому +1

    What a great achievement and it's wonderful to find a reforestation project that's 30 years and going strong. Good going! I wonder whether you've heard of the Akiro Miyawaki method, perhaps some elements of it might be useful to you. Results on very dry land in India using the method are amazing.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому

      Many apologies for slow response. We are all volunteers and our first priority (and this year has been quite demanding) is to support our Haitian partners as best we can. Good to know about this method. WE'll look into it. Our "CODEP METHOD" includes some ditch digging at the top of the terracing efforts in order to trap more water. That's been quite useful and repeated now for a couple decades. Thank you, Bernadette.

  • @AM-zk7pj
    @AM-zk7pj 3 роки тому +3

    Forests should be planted with many species.. not just fruits

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +2

      We completely agree and we plant a couple dozen types of trees. We tend to plant the fruit trees on the edge of the planting areas so people eventually can walk by and have something to eat. There is such a delicate balance between the long term forest building and the immediate needs of hunger and poverty. Our full list of trees is on the Fact Sheet on the Website: www.haitireforest.org

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому +1

      Food and animal forage trees are important to building interest and increasing local resilency...

    • @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784
      @hrhprophetessofdarknesssex5784 2 роки тому

      Absolutely 🙋🏼‍♀️ but they do plant a diverse range of native trees.

  • @johnwhitehurst474
    @johnwhitehurst474 2 роки тому

    I applauded any planting trees! What most do not get is the drive to shut down Fossil fuel? Ok What do the people cook and heat with? Give it some thought answer TREES and that has denuded many places on the earth. Think 7 Billion people need to heat and cook, no fossil fuel ??? Do not give me the Battery crap. Where does the Electricity come from to recharge Batteries? We are moving to fast getting off Fossil fuels is the point.

  • @maple494
    @maple494 3 роки тому +2

    i want to plant my own forest but 75% of my country's land is forest so it's hard to find unforested land

  • @baldbollocks
    @baldbollocks Рік тому

    It would be a paradise island if they took all those Africans back.

  • @pk-pj4sz
    @pk-pj4sz 3 роки тому +1

    at the same time 10 times as much acreage just got cut down

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      Cutting is okay as long as we are replacing more than is cut. Coppicing is a way to fill wood needs while keeping the trees, too.

  • @deepthikandadi
    @deepthikandadi 3 роки тому

    Why isn't miyawaki forest concept not tried here .. ?? Any dependencies??

  • @projectplantationbylipasro8018
    @projectplantationbylipasro8018 3 роки тому

    I'm targeted my aim . ONLY PLANTATION DO NOTHING

  • @shadetreader
    @shadetreader Рік тому

    France owes the people of Haiti reparations.

  • @karfomachet7265
    @karfomachet7265 Рік тому

    the French did not chop down all the trees and the French are not there now so they can not be blamed for what Haitians do now like chopping down trees

  • @lmiajoseph8650
    @lmiajoseph8650 3 роки тому +1

    Why are you still cutting. This is the problem. The age of a tree matters.

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому +1

      The roots are securing the soil. What needs to happen is education about work around, such as copppicing trees, planting directly into the ground with seeds, tree hay, planting food producing trees, etc...

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому +1

      Additionally, if they cut the eucalyptus, it's a good thing...

  • @chip63us
    @chip63us 3 роки тому

    They don't look to happy,strange

    • @b_uppy
      @b_uppy 2 роки тому

      Yeah, is this merely a propaganda film? Where is the planting occuring?

  • @CharlieSpencers
    @CharlieSpencers 3 роки тому

    1:30: Blaming this whole issue on the French as if the modern Haitians didn’t come there with the French centuries ago and what’s going wrong in their independent nation isn’t their responsibility.

    • @mynamejeff3545
      @mynamejeff3545 2 роки тому +1

      The French forced the freed slaves of Haiti to pay back *21 billion* to the French state for their own rebellion. The last debt was paid in 1947. In addition, Haiti was embargoed by the US and France immediately after its independence, for the sole reason of ruining the free state economically: an island where freed slaves lived in peace and prosperity, without white slave-owners, was a massive threat to the idea of white superiority and neccesity of slavery. Haiti was made an example of. And an example they became, after over 150 years of economic sabotage: a broken, deeply impoverished nation, dependent on "foreign aid" from the same nations that tried to strangle it in debt.
      Believe it or not, a country's history has an impact on its present. There's almost no coming back from a past like that, especially with the frequent natural disasters.

    • @HaitifundincOrgCODEP
      @HaitifundincOrgCODEP  2 роки тому +3

      We try not to get into the discussion of blame. The reality is that the folks we work with in Haiti want nothing more than to have skills and pride and results. The wonderful thing about this project is that it is over 30 years old and the 750 "CODEP" (name of organization) folks have developed and refined a very disciplined process for planting and nurturing trees. The results are years in the making but we now have forests that you can see from space! All this is to say that whatever the devastation, the recovery is possible and this story is testament to that. They are now training interns -- younger folks -- to become the next leaders of the project. It is so awesome.

  • @user-ib7ee1gl3b
    @user-ib7ee1gl3b 6 місяців тому

    Feliz navidad 2023 saludos felicidades,la flor plateda venta de plantas ,arboles frutales cuentan con mis suscripciones de porvida talcual una colegiatura. 811