What are the costs of refusing to join the Israeli military? | The Stream
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2024
- In Israel, military service is mandatory for most Jewish Israelis. In a highly militarised society, many consider it a rite of passage and a part of their national identity. But there are some teens who refuse to enlist on moral grounds. The so-called "conscientious objectors" say they do not want to be part of Israel’s war on Gaza or the oppression of Palestinians on occupied land. But the refusal to conscribe comes at a cost - the risk of imprisonment and the condemnation from Israeli society.
Presenter:
Anelise Borges
Guests:
Tal Mitnick - Human rights activist
Einat Gerlitz - Former conscientious objector
Nave Shabtay Levin - Former conscientious objector
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So good to see that there are serious, brave, young people in Israel who are prepared to stand up for what is right. Solidarity.
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I hate to rain on the parade, but he's still a Zionist. He refuses to serve in the military, but he believes Israel SHOULD continue to exist. He's basically said he believes in a Two-State solution, but that's simply never going to happen.
Thank you for standing up for humanity.
This is empty rhetoric sir. He's saying things like "we have to learn to live next to each other" and its like, no dude, you don't get to steal half of someones house, call it your own, and then say "ok ok, now let's just make peace and learn to live next to each other!". That doesn't work.
this person is truly noble. One of the Israeli youths was honest and said that for 70 years Israel had used the military as a tool of violence against civilians. be strong young man, you are not alone. all the youth in the world support your courage.
World support you
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Being a traitor to your people isnt noble by the way.
@@alirasheed3555agreed 💯
And we elders support you and are so grateful for your bravery ( from a Jewish American)
Having a clear conscience is far better than having a militaristic past you bear shame over.
No shame in protecting my people here Christine. Ex IDF Armored Division. Proud to have stood guard for my country. Shame on you for supporting Hamas.
@@jonstnr I do not support Hamas. I have two children by my Jewish husband. I cannot, like many Jewish people, condone Genocide. Hamas was wrong to commit the crimes on Oct 7. Israel has committed atrocities far greater. Do not assume because a person does not agree with the extreme military tactics that they are pro Hamas. The statement I made was to a young Israeli unwilling to fight a useless war. This is his right. Both sides committing terrorist acts should know what is morally reprehensible. If they had a healthy moral compass they would feel guilty for slaying women and children. My comment has nothing to do with backing Hamas. You have a narrow way of thinking. Try expansion of your mind. I respect the military. I married military men. I have had many military men in my family. Excuse you, for your narrow mindedness.
@@jonstnr Secondarily, is it your division that gets a charge out of running over recent graveyards and disinterring bodies in the process?
@@jonstnrshame on you!!! IDF are just like N a Z i s!!!!! You even use the exact same tactics that the nazis used on jews!! Shame on you!!! You have blood on your hands!!!
@@jonstnrget lost you savage Zionist criminal. I would not care if you Zionist criminals don’t suck up American taxpayers blood like me . America owes Israel nothing
Well done, young sir.
You have the courage and heart of a lion. It is a tough position but a noble choice you stand against, and trust, you're on the right side of history.
May God preserve and protect you from enmity.
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Those young are very brave, this time we have this kind of generation is given us hope in the future! Thanks thanks 🙏
Tal you are a hero. Remember that you walk the path of many figures in history who were imprisoned for speaking the truth. Stay strong
Yeah remember Mike Prysner?
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This is a Jew and not a Zionist. Like most secular people.
This is a human. Humans behave humanely and compassionately towards others.
The other labels you stick on people are useless and lead to conflict.
Amazing man. I wish you well. Keep standing up for your principles unlike the politicians who have no principles and only thinks of their power and lining their pockets
You're the bravest 18 year old in the world mate. I can't imagine how noble you must be for you to be able to stay so strong and focussed about your morals. When I have kids Id want them to be like you. I met some wonderful Jews in my life they were the most kindest and nice people I always remember. Amidst chaos, YOU give this life a meaning.
These are teenage kids, and they think like matured persons while their Prime Minister, over 70 behaves like a kid.
Keep it up guys. Who knows in the future you would lead an Israel that may peacefully coexist with Palestinians.
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You are a wonderful, truly good; intelligent and courageous young man ❤. As the mother of my two Beloved Sons, I want to re assure you that you are not alone. They are such good young men and will always exist for this. You are not alone. We are with you ❤
His voice counts as a betrayer. The kid doesn't even have a matured brain yet
These are misguided children being used by terrorists to push lies
The fact that the majority of Palestinians live peacefully in Israel has completely eluded your brain.
Tal Mitnick speaks more mature language than many experienced politicians of the world. ❤❤❤
Very excellent episode and I say "thank you" to all three of you, plus to Al Jazeera for providing this opportunity. I am quite tardy, for the publication date for this video says "3 week ago" and it is now Feb. 19th. I listened to a few Israel dissenters about the IDF during the 2000s, and that included a young Jewish Israeli woman who refused right away, while I believe to recall that the other two had enlisted in the IDF, became sickened, say, by it, quit and became conscientious objectors. But, this Al Jazeera video is an excellent update and reminder, though not that I had forgotten about the other 3 referred to in this comment. The young Jewish Israeli woman I just referred to and if I recall correctly said that refusing this conscription could mean being ordered to serve a one year prison sentence ; but, she certainly seemed to be happy to having entirely refused this conscription. Those three interviews and these new two interviews are excellent to listen to. God bless all of you. Your words are definitely uplifting for me. I learned during the 2000s that not all Jewish Israelis approve of the criminality of the Israeli government, and that is not really surprising, for, f.e., plenty, maybe not the majority, but nonetheless plenty of Americans also don't approve of the criminality of their federal government in Washington. Anyway, bravo/cheers!
This young boy Tal Mitnick stands on solid ethical ground.
THIS YOUNG BOY IS VERY CORRECT HE DONT WANT TO KILL ANY BODY GOD BLESS YOU
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THAT IS EXACTLY HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO LIVE ❤
If RUSSIA has a right to jail, abuse and ridicule men to serve and die in Ukraine, then Israel has every right like Russia does.
If you support Russian laws to force men to fight then you must back Israel. Are you a hypocrite or not?
@@remogatron1010 oh no sir you make mistakes Russia is not ISREAL
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Remember Mike Prysner?
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These teenagers are the nxt leaders and we hope to see a better world for a peace & humanity esp for Israel n Palestine. Keep the golden heart beating and stay blessed.
no they are not. no one will vote for them unfortunately
IS TOTAL UNJUSTICE FOR THIS YOUNG BOY IS RIGHT HE IS NOT GOING TO WAR IS HIS RIGHT
Million tons of love, respect and salute for bright people like Einat, Tal and others.
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My heart is really melting after seeing maturity of these brave teenagers
This kid is a hero and inspiration 💓🕊️😢🙏🏽👏🏽
Thank you young man for standing up for humanity.
I want to salute this brave, pure and sensible soul out of respect ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well done, young brave man❤ keep it up
brave? did he risk his life doing this?
All my support to you young people.
A heartfelt salute to these brave fellows who possess wisdom at very young age.
An experience many South African conscripted men had in apartheid South Africa. We had the ECC (End Conscription Campaign) to assist them. Our young men faced exactly what you are facing. You are a brave man and I congratulate you for your commitment
Thank you Aldjazira for your great job the information is very important after hearing this young brave Israeli they are not inform about the Palestinian suffering from the occupation and the war Thank you young man and women I'm sure you guys will create a peaceful state for IsraelI and Palestinian nothing wrong with that having one state for all equal rights for all
THESE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY RIGHTOUS ISRARELIS:::I AM ON YOUR SIDE:::BE STRONG AND MAKE YOUR WAY WITH HEAD UP
So proud of you guys!! SO PROUD!
Young people being forced to fight old people’s battles
while old people are enjoying Doha Plaza
I love these young people . They are pure personifications of the key to our our children’s future . 🙏♥️
Young man of correct convictions, don't let anyone change them for you
Thank you all b
Many blessings to you all
What an amazing human being, so brave, so awake, so right, so courageous, such an inspiration. Just wish that his brave stance could be the start of something bigger...whereby a movement is created towards peace and reconciliation, moving towards a One Democratic State (ODS).
Not joining War must be praised. we humans are not beasts, but the system wants to create beasts from people like you.
I admire you.
Good on u mate
I’m so proud of you guys ❤️❤️
May Allah guide you to the right path young man.
Know Thy Self, be true to Yourself! A human being treats other human beings with respect!
Brave. Get him out of there so he can lead with peace. 🙏
I am Muslim, I wish these kids were safe, I believe these kids are the bravest in the whole present world. We don't hate Jews, it is the Israeli oppressive behavior that sparked the conflict. These kids are always welcome to my house and be my family.
So brave ,i hope They Will be safe ❤
Right On LITTLE BROTHER!..FREE PALESTINE!
😂😂😂😂 Palestine isn't a country, it's an area and it's owned by Israel. 😂😂😂
@@tclanjtopsom4846*Illegally occupied, as defined by the United Nations international legal charter, legal code.
@@tclanjtopsom4846 really where did you get Israel from?
God bless you!
Bravo Tal ✨👍🏼
Un homme grand qui deviendra un Grand Homme
Staying strong young man ,you will be the future to lead.
*You best settle in, everyone who supports Palestine. That will require a lot of time on your part just standing there.*
That’s a smart kid.
Very commendable
Thank you for your work and courage🙏📚🕊✝️☪️✡️🕊🇵🇸🇮🇱🕊
You all are exceptional human beings. It’s difficult to stand up and go to jail for your beliefs. Be strong….
So much respect for you.Thank you for humanity . A lot of the world also supports you. Stay strong.
Very human 👍👍👍
اللَّهُمَّ ارْحَمْنِي ، فَأَنْتَ خَيْرُ الرَّاحِمِينَ ، وَارْزُقْنِي ، فَأَنْتَ خَيْرُ الرَّازِقِينَ ، وَاغْفِرْ لِي فَأَنْتَ خَيْرُ الغَافِرِينَ ، وَانْصُرْنِي ، فَأَنْتَ خَيْرُ النَّاصِرِينَ
NO need to serve!
I talked to Netanyahu and his son will be back from holidays soon. The son was a little bit preoccupied with beach bunnies on the beaches of Florida. But he will be in Gaza son and occupy it by himself!
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Respect for staying in peace in your heart.. ❤❤❤❤
So proud of Einat
. and Nave .Thank you for your courageous stand and for you humanity
amazing, tones of respect
What a brave young individual. Well done mate and you have the worlds support.
Hello Thal, you are brave and our Hero! (greetings from the soldiers at the front!)
I said the following elsewhere:
Tal, you're in good company! I'm one of some 6,000 US men who have federal felony records due to our civil disobedience against the Viet Name Conflict in the 1960s and 1970s. Welcome aboard! 🌹
Stop on War and step on peace ✌️
living to gather peacefully and beautifully With all Good Manner and perfection
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If my country has fought and been at war for 70 years continuously- I will reject the enlistment too . Why?? Because if for 70 years it hasn’t brought peace , why must I join??
Not all Jews are bad ❤❤❤
Shalom brother❤🙏🏾
HE IS AN HONOUR TO HUMAN KIND AND A GREAT HUMAN BEING! ALL MY RESPECT AND ADMIRATION!
GOD BLESS YOU FROM THE EVIL RULER
Stay strong may God almighty bless you and keep you safe and you are doing the right thing don't go and do genocide that is a crime you Stay strong and pray there is a God and if you believe miracle happens slowly but shortly God gives miracle
May you get reward for making wise decision. ❤️
You are very brave! Thank you for humanity!
Brave how exactly? Did he risk his life?
I always proud for anyone who Stand for Humanity and seeing others like us .Brave these people.
He's one of the few good one kudos to this guy
This young man will be on the right side of history.
This kid is smarter and more mature than 90 percent of adults I know!
Love and respect for Nave ❤❤❤❤❤
These teens have more guts and COURAGE than the entire IOF put together.
These guys bring so much hope for peace ☮️
Brave and beautiful
Damm, future looks bright after hearing these teens.god bless you all and please Allah guide these wonderful minds to be the leaders of our future.
Wonderful Guy!!❤❤❤ honor to these youngsters that refuse taking part to a genocide❤❤❤ God bless you all be safe guys 😊
It's difficult to follow the path of the prophet Ibrahim. Only a limited number of people can do that, his one of them.
I am a Conscientious Objector as well..Thanks for your story
Thank you for been so brave ❤
So proud of these principled heroes.
It's hard enough here to support Palestinian human rights even in Canada.
These brave young people speak for so many who are silenced by fear of being accused of treason for speaking against the endless cycle of violence perpetuated by Bibi and the IDF
They have a human brain and they are right because peace and stability come through negotiations but not through force killings and suffering and never happen in history
Name one country that was created through "peace and negotiations" LOL. I'll wait.
Compared to those old bags in the Israeli government who just care about power and influence, this young Israelis is a more responsible and logical thinker. Imagine if he were to become prime minister of Israel in the future without the far-right extremists politician.
Trust me brother, as a human being with a good conscience, you would have found it a thousand times harder to live with yourself had you chosen the other way. May you be blessed. Ameen.
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This youngster provides great hope to the Youth of the World and by illustrating he is sustained by his human values and supported by people from every corner of the World.
It’s important that the media explain the meaning of conscientious objection which demands strength, tenacity and determination. These. Youngsters have experienced extremely demanding situations and threats and faced this irrational warmongering culture with very strong degree of courage.
They are magnificent examples of messengers of Peace and Solidarity.and will become the leaders of a future Palestine where the Zionist will have no place.
He’s got common sense beyond his years god bless you young faller
This really is strange ! These kids sound like sanity because when I hear a lot of them speak it shows biases but these kids should be honored because they are down to earth and kool ...stay strong for the good of the world and mankind ❤❤❤❤
These are the future real leaders of Israel. They represent the true salvation and future of Israel. God Bless.
Thank you
After all is not all lost. Like Mohammad Ali, remember him? He had the courage to say NO, and that takes courage and and the heart of a lion and you are lucky to have those in you.
Thank you
Congratulations to these youths : you are the future !!
where's bibi son . why is he not in jail.
Bibi's son is fighting in Gaza, same applies to the son of Israeli 's minister of defense
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? Really?? 😅
He is in the U.S.A. . What are you talking about?
The son of the Minister of Defense is also in the USA?
I missed the draft for the vietnam war by a few years. Still, I was out there protesting it while I was too young to serve.
Brave young fella I am proud of you 👏
We need leaders like these youth that represent Israel. Fair, lovable, and stand by choosing the right.
Respect and love this man from Pakistan 🇵🇰❤️
Tal, you have the support of millions of people from all backgrounds . Thank you for standing up for peace and justice
The youth are tired of fighting wars they didn't start.
Tal is a legend in the middle east, brave to stand up against his own state.