Halloween 6: Defending An Enjoyable Yet Messy Entry
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Every big horror franchise has an entry hated by fans, and though it seems Halloween has more than a few, Halloween: The Curse Of Michael Myers has always been near the top of that list. But considering that this entry has more than a few good kills, a decent leading cast, a snappy pace, and an actual threatening Michael Myers, maybe we can admit it is not as bad as it gets credit for.
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Halloween 6 on opening night when I was just a kid is still a memory I hold dearly to this day. I see past all the flaws. I absolutely love it to this day
Same here. Not opening night, but the next day. I was 15 at the time.
If you see past those flaws you should get vision checked 😂
Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best film in the franchise and the only one that made sense! And everything after six has sucked! Wish they had done the sequel planned for it as it sounded epic!
Saw it opening night too and loved it, still one of my favorite movies in the series
@@kevenfinley2809 It is actually the last Halloween film I have seen in theaters. WHen the ones after it started coming out I would hear they were not as good so I would wait and get them free at the library later on or see it some other way and was always glad I did not spend a dime on them. Now i dont even watch them for free. They are just so awful now
As messy as part 6, I always enjoyed it. I love the fall vibes of the movie, and I really like how brutal Michael is. This Michael is really similar to the 2018 timeline Michael, IMO.
Fun story (or maybe you'll think it's boring...i dunno im not a freakin mind reader!)
I have a HUGE soft spot for this movie due to the circumstances surrounding it's premiere in my little city. I was 13 years old when me & 4 friends went to the theater opening night for the 8pm-ish showing. For some reason they oversold the movie for that time, so when we walked into the theater I kid you not it was completely packed, to the point there were around 2 dozen extra people just making camp in the aisles and using the big plastic garbage cans as seats! The only open spot we could find was bottom left of the screen sitting on the hard ass floor IN FRONT of the first row! The view was utter hell on our necks, but it didn't matter cuz the atmosphere was literally insane!
Everyone was so hyped, that the moment Michael makes his first kill sticking the nurse to the spike in the wall the entire theater erupted in wild cheering lol.
That went on for every. single. kill in the entire movie! It was just so cool, especially for a 13 year old kid.
Remember this was yeeears before any Marvel movies and back then other than laughter here & there, nobody was cheering or clapping for scenes in a movie.
The craziest part of the whole thing was about halfway thru, the smell of weed permeated down to us, and as we looked around we eventually saw a group in the middle literally casually passing around a joint lmao.
Being 13 we weren't smoking weed yet (give it maybe 3 more months 🤷♂️) but we smoked cigarettes, so a few of us decided to take our chances and light up right there in front. The teenage ushers (who were also constantly popping in & out to watch the movie themselves) didn't rat on anybody or tell anyone to stop doing what they were doing, so it was this almost cool little community vibe, ya know?
Anyway, that's the reason I'll always love this movie, because I have such fond memories attached to it 💖
One of the most memorable kills in the series. The Dad being eltorocuted till his head exploded
I agree, although it is something that feels more like a Jason kill, considering it is so over the top.
Cheers from Canada
I enjoyed the foam coming out of his mouth before his cranium blows up. I like when he uses the guys head to open the iron gate too. He was savagely brutal in part 6.
All the Halloweens had good kills except H20
The creepier thing in the movie is not Michael Myers but the fact that Paul Rudd still looks the same.
The guy doesn't age!
He will go the Bill Murray route. Not age for 50 years and then age all at once.
@@SerlingPictures Exactly
@@SerlingPictures well Bill Murray just looked old for his age until he didn’t lol
😂 n weird as hell he did too much.
I have always loved this movie he's the meanest most brutal Michael we have ever had and scary one as well and it was my first Halloween movie I went to go see in theater
I think RZ’s Michael is the most brutal.
@@PuertoRicanBoi127oh yeah I for got about part 2
I always felt that Dr Loomis said it best in a line that never made it in the theatrical cut,
"I always knew what he was, but I never knew why."
They should have kept it that way.
kinda inspires dr sartane in 2018 icl.
@@cbawitlife oh, absolutely
I prefer to think of Michael as a mortal, but very crafty and motivated serial killer - certainly a cut above the most, as he seemingly survives situations that would kill most, but he's not a zombie, or evil incarnate. I like Loomis dwelling on that, though, because like Captain Ahab or Victor Frankenstein (a nod to the first film) his long term experience with Michael has made him world weary, clearly suffering from PTSD. The whole thorn-thing really ruined the franchise.
@@matthintz9468 Only problem is Michael getting stabbed in the gut neck and shot in the face yet still being fine in the original movie. Kind of ruins the "mortal" thing that.
Not to mention all the very blatant "subtext" about Michael's supernatural qualities in the original.
Or the writers saying they intended him to be superhuman.
Or all the Halloween folklore they link to Michael as early as the original but very explicitly as early as Halloween 2.
Ignore all of that and yeah, "thorn ruined the franchise".
Michael is legitimately my favorite in this one. It remains my second favorite behind the original.
yes!
2 and 6 are tied on my list. I really like the fall vibes in this movie.
@@dashpellegrinidepaur1527 Yes 2 was awesome as well!
I love Halloween 6..It had spooky fall vibe to it and Micheal was just brutal.
I love The Curse. It gets a bad rap but Michael's mask is one of the best and the scene in the lab at the end has Michael looking downright scary.
I remember seeing the first trailers on Dumb and Dumber and The Crow when it was called Halloween 666 The Origin of Michael Myers. Then when it was released the name change happened and a lot of people had no idea why. A lot has changed since the mid 90’s even with movie leaks abound on every movie now. This feels like the MTV generation’s Halloween. I personally love it. Probably my 3rd favorite behind obviously the original and then Part 4.
This is such a great video. Halloween 6 is one of my favourites and I’ve always thought it was misunderstood. Keep up the great work
What do you think is misunderstood? I mean Michael impregnating Jamie and being controlled by a cult is pretty straight forward nonsense.
Yes, it does look much better than "Halloween 5" very apparent summer look.
I liked this video before even watching it just from the title. I was so happy to see you defending my favorite entry in the franchise I got ahead of myself. It is absolutely a sloppy mess, but that is what makes it so entertaining to watch and Michael is 100% at his best (worst?), well, definitely most menacing, in it.
This one is bad but it's so damn entertaining for some reason. Michael also has a pretty decent look in this one too. I also love that Michael gets blood all over some sheets and literally puts them in the washer and does the laundry lol
Right? His look is refreshing and the mask isn’t bad, only thing I don’t like is that he has a Dad gut lmfao. Its actually pretty dark and they made him kind of scary again
I always liked 6. Not sure why but it always felt more fall vibe oriented and scenic. Plus Paul Rudd adds xp
It’s was the first one I saw in theaters.
This was the first and only Paul Rudd I knew until like 2007 I didn't watch anything he was in so I had no idea he was funny. But now that I know he's funny makes how he's acting in Halloween 6 kind of funny
Halloween 6 is worth a watch for the intrique surrounding its troubled production and the rumor-turned-real Producer's Cut. And I also love Michael's mask in the movie. It looks like it was made of granite or stone, as immovable and enduring as the ancient evil controlling him. Though I do wish his coveralls were darker. the light blue doesn't work so well for a stalking killer who lurks in the shadows and the dark of the night.
So happy to have found my people. This movie is one of my absolute favorites in the franchise despite all the hate it gets. The atmosphere and the aesthetics of it are unmatched, and imo it also has the best version of Michael since the original
Yes I took a hit because it is indeed my thing. This is a very underrated Halloween. Not for the convoluted story but for atmosphere, good kills, better mask compared to the previous and following masks. Watched it in theaters as a 6 year old with my 3 and 2 year old brothers and my single mother at night. I was scared the entire cab ride home. Watched it many times with them on VHS. I miss them.
I remember seeing Halloween 6 in the theater and loving it.
The crowd clapped when Myers pinned that female doctors to the spike on the wall and his theme played.
@@Filthy_Larry It was the same when I saw it. People were ready to see Michael again. Plus he's pretty cool looking in 6.
@@Filthy_LarryI remember that! It was great
The Curse of Michael Myers and why I like the film: This is only from the theatrical version.
Michael Myers is scary in in the movie. The mask is the best since the original film. I know the same mask was used in the second but Dick Warlock’s big head made the mask look odd in the second film. The movie has a great soundtrack. Donald Pleasence gives one final performance as Dr. Loomis. The movie is darker and scarier and does a good job of building up tension. The scene where the house wife, Debra Strode is in the house by herself and she’s terrified is a great part of the movie because it is so relatable. Who among us hasn’t been home alone and scared at some point? The biggest jerk in the movie and maybe even in the franchise gets electrocuted and his head explodes in a practical effects spectacular.
I’ve heard Paul Rudd’s performance criticized but I don’t get why. He is playing a character that is weird because he went through some very traumatic stuff as a child. He character isn’t normal, he is awkward and socializes differently than most people. I think Rudd nails the performance.
Could the movie have been better? Sure, but I think the idea of a cult forming around a famous killer is a good concept. The cult could have attributed their own meanings to the killings by Michael Myers and they could have tracked Michael and used tranquilizers to subdue him and transport him places in their efforts to control him. But I think the movie would have been better had the message of the movie been more clearly defined as being that you cannot control evil. Michael does kill the cult members at the end but I think it would have been better had Michael never appeared as a willing participant of the cult unless made more clear that he was using the cult as a means to an end.
And it’s also never established what the green stuff is that Tommy(Paul Rudd) injects Michael with a few times. Seeing how it didn’t seem to have much effect, I’m going to assume it was the Re-Animator fluid and just kept Michael going…So the ending is a bit weak but Michael wasn’t killed by a beating with a board, he did survive as we hear him get to Dr. Loomis at the end. But at least Tommy continued to hit Michael when he was down instead of doing the normal horror movie trope and thinking all is well once the killer is down.
This was just my opinion on a film that I quite enjoy and rank second on my list of Halloween films.
This one is still great and looks like a masterpiece compared to what they make today. Paul Rudd brought a lot of credibility to that character and made the explanations about Michael seem believable. The first movie handicapped itself and the sequels because Carpenter and Hill humanized him too much and even had him driving. Michael just magically learned to drive? Was Haddonfield just a straight shot from the sanitarium? Did he know how to find addresses? How did he know his own address? Everyone likes to pretend that the first movie was flawless and didn’t introduce a lot of problems, but it did.
This was the first one I ever saw (theatrical), so it'll always hold a special place in my heart. Is it dumb in the overall picture? Yes, but the kills are amazing and Michael is scary as hell in this one.
I used to hate Halloween 6, now I love it! The rock version of the soundtrack, the dark atmosphere, and the vicious vibe from Michael Myers!
I still hate this film but there are some enjoyable things I liked about Halloween 6
@@scottwarnick5126 Yes!
This is the first Halloween I saw in theaters I was 11 and loved every minute of it,now as an adult I still enjoy it,definitely love the kills and Michael's brutality was a Jason level of brute force
Fact: Howard Stern was going to play Barry Simms but was busy filming Private Parts.
The mask from Halloween II is the very same mask that was used in Halloween, the only reason it looks different is because there is a different actor underneath it. Dick Warlock who portrays The Shape in 2 had a different shaped head (rounder) to Nick Castle from Halloween 1 thus the mask looking a little different. Also, between movies, it was kept in a shoe box under Debra Hill's bed and suffered smoke damage as she was a heavy smoker.
I love part 6 but i prefer the theatrical version
I like parts of the Producers cut, but WTF were they thinking with the Incest angle?
@@molasorrosalom4846 yeah I know
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For me 6 is the most unique film and had scenes that I really see as the best in the franchise. The only huge negatives were Danielle Harris missing, the weird rituals which weren’t needed, the weird story of the baby & the ending.
This was the first one I saw in the theatre. I actually rented and watched each one from Blockbuster in Totowa NJ right before this one came out to be all caught up bc I had never watched them before. Good times Lance
Same here bro. It was awesome on the big screen.
I love the guitar riffs in the theater cut
I hated the guitar riffs. It's amazing how two people can like and dislike something. The guitar riffs it what initially turned me off from the movie. I warmed towards it in recent years
@@hshawn00 actually I hated it back in 95 but its grown on me over the years
@@Hero11170 I completely understand. The whole movie has grown on me over the years.
So much thorn in that cult.
It's also the only Halloween in which Michael Myers runs, if only for a few steps.
I loved it!
I love your videos! The way your narrate and introduce actors as their characters. I was about to sub, then I realized I already was. This movie deserves a rewatch. What a ton of fun! And yes, this mask looks so much better. The shoulder pads were always such a weird move.
Really appreciate that. Thank you
It's always been my favorite. Ordered it on ppv in 1995 , I was 13 . Perfect time
Halloween 4 and 6 nailed the look as far as suburbs, but they also both showed the country as where Jamie got killed in part 6 and the intro to Halloween 4 which was just fire.
being from the midwest i confirm this 100%. i can drive 15 minutes south and find scenery just like the opening of part 4.
@@markmac2206 exactly I live in Ohio and it's just like that
This was the first Halloween movie I saw in the theater. Reduces cut is more coherent, but I still love the craziness and gory schlock of the theatrical cut.
Same here. I was 10 years old. Michael is pissed in this one.
The producer’s cut of Halloween 6 is a better film, and much more coherent. The ending was an interesting twist
Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best film in the franchise and the only one that made sense! And everything after six has sucked! Wish they had done the sequel planned for it as it sounded epic!
Personally I love Halloween 6 even with its flaws it's a nice little time capsule of a movie that captures the look and feel of the mid-90s and throughout it has this Dreadful oppressive atmosphere that just doesn't let up
And my preferred cut of this movie is neither the theatrical or producers cut my preferred version of this movie is actually a fan at it that's a hybrid of both versions that leaves out the twist with the revelation of the father and Michael being defeated by stones
🔪I remember watching this in the theatres and everyone groaned at the end when hearing Loomis scream. ☠️
Omfh this video awesome BECAUSE OF THE MANCOW! ! OMFG
JESUS DUDE THAT MADE MY MONTH!!!
THIS IS Y YOU'RE MY GO TO FOR HORROR!
You are far too kind!
After watching “Ends”, I’m all for defending Curse.
When he takes out that whole room of doctors one of the best scenes in any Halloween movie in my opinion.
Halloween 6 was a very great movie I went to the show and watched it
Halloween 6 Producers cut is by far the best film in the franchise and the only one that made sense! And everything after six has sucked! Wish they had done the sequel planned for it as it sounded epic!
When I saw this at the theater opening day...after 6 years since 5..I was entertained by it and felt it did an ok job of tying up the mistakes of 5. I still like it
This was the only scary one I remember as a kid. That hospital slaughter scene was 🔥.
It's weird you mentioned Mancow in this because I saw Halloween 6 with my friends after one of us somehow got free tickets from his radio show.😝
I commented on your "WTF happened to..." of this movie, but feel obliged to comment again. I had a "Demo Tape" VHS version of this film when i was young horror fan and aside from the wacky stroyline, i still feel like Michael Myers was horrifying in this. The atmosphere and vibes from certain scenes still gives me the creeps just thinking about them now.
If they reboot Halloween again or need to figure out where to go with the franchise, they should try to figure out a way to make a few movies that try to link all these different continuities together. Halloween has always been the worst compared to the other horror franchises with continuity.
This movie (the theatrical cut, I hate the producers cut!) has a place in my heart for being the first one I saw. I saw the original shortly after.
the only thing about the PC is theres more Loomis, i wish they kept a few more of his scenes in the TC.
I kept rewinding the part of the dad ....had me cracking up....just watched the producers cut Monday....wow......these are my faves ...
H6 is either my number 2 or 3 favorite. I have a lot of fun when I watch it.
My parents took me to see this when I was around 5 or 6 because they didn’t have a baby sitter lol I remember being terrified and since my brother worked at the theater and I was too scared I chilled in the lobby with him and got nachos,popcorn, and soda lol was a good memory
1:53 😂 😂 😂
7:42 LOVED the Mancow reference.
Best Halloween atmosphere along with 4 and original/2
Give me that Producer’s cut any day
exactly
This could've been summed up as:
Halloween 6, it's not Buster Rhymes or Zombie...so there's that.
There’s a guy who works at a grocery in town who absolutely loves the Halloween movies, and quotes one of them whenever I’m in there,
And one thing I alway say when I see him is
“Doctor Loomis…. Thank Goooodnesss your heeeeere”
Part 6 was actually one of my favorite in the series. It definitely wasn't as bad as so many others pan it out to be in my opinion.
My best to worst in the original film Series is: Part 1, Part 4, Part 2, Part 6, Part 5, Part 7 (H20), Part 8 Resurrection, Part 3: Season Of The Witch.
All others: Halloween (2018), Rob Zombie's Halloween, Zombie's Halloween 2, Halloween Kills.... And I haven't seen Halloween Ends yet but from what I've heard it would most likely be at the end of all others combined.
Still my 2nd favorite in the franchise! I understand why some don’t enjoy it, but the thick, Fall atmosphere, dark, edgy vibes, full-on Boogeyman-mode Myers, cast, kills; this is just a total-package slasher for me. One of my favorite 90s horror films along with Event Horizon and Scream.
3 guys played Michael Myers
First was George P. Wilbur played The Shape In The Producer's Cut, but when reshoots happen, A. Michael Lerner Played Michael Myers & Make-Up Effects Artist & Actor Brad Hardin Played Michael Myers In A Couple Shots with 2ND Unit doing pickup shots, Before Lerner was in for the day.
Halloween needed Halloween II since Carpenter felt that Michael's story wasn't definitively wrapped up with the first entry. There was a passing reference to his rampage in Haddonfield over the radio in Season of the Witch, but that was going to be it for Michael since Carpenter wanted each successive Halloween movie to be different, standalone stories with a Halloween night theme. Fans of Michael Myers booed Season of the Witch since he wasn't present and demanded more Michael and Carpenter stopped directing the film series and abandoned his intended vision.
This is the first Halloween movie I saw when it came on TV in '96. I had no history with the franchise at the time, and I wasn't too into it. H20 was the first one I saw in theaters, and then my brother got the first one right after in vhs, and then I worked my way up to 6 (it was a pain trying to find 2-5 at the video stores in those days).
Looking back at this movie, yeah it was a mess, but I will give credit where credit is due. It was my introduction to the series, so I guess I'll stand by it today. I'm glad I picked up the box set of all the movies, so I was able to watch the producers cut after it was released. It was better to watch on my TV instead of on UA-cam where the footage was choppy from bootlegged copies.
I know I'll catch a bit of flack for this, but this movie was pretty much better than the Blumhouse trilogy that came out. Even though 2018 wasn't too bad, to be honest.
I loved this one! I want to see that producer cut ✂️ 🤡 🎃
Always wanted the witch cult to be the same as the season of the witch
Halloween Unforgiving ties all together! 🎃 Myers Legacy Ends
Why doesn't Paul rudd talk about this more? I feel like he'd go all in on making fun of it. "Yeah. I just beat the hell out of him with a pipe. Wasn't even hard. I dont know why more people don't just try that. It worked really well. Pipes are like his kryptonite."
The begging and the operation room was good
Scariest version of Myers
indeed!
Know your history: Debra Hill (I can't remember her exact connection to the Halloween movies) is from Haddonfield New Jersey. The concept of, "Haddonfield" is ever so real.
Michael is scary asf in part 6. One of the reasons its one of my favorites it genuinely spooks me sometimes. Batshit story line thats kinda goofy but Michael is terrifying
I still have yet to see either cut of this one. I saw it in a video store when I was younger and had no idea where it fell in the series since there was no 6 in the title. It's even worse because I saw 4 and 5 on TV a lot as a kid and always wondered what happened next lol.
I have to agree with I there. This episode and part 4 ranks best for visuals and the atmospheric feel of what Haddonfield should feel like. Creepy and electric
I'm not going to lie back when I was 10 this movie creeped me out
One of my favorites in the franchise. Gets way too much hate.
Love these videos. Keep up the awesome work 👏
Hell yeah. Taking a hit and having a pour. Hindu purple kush and Barton’s 1792 small batch
Part 2's mask is Part 1's mask. It was just warped, worn out and stretched in the three years between films.
This used to be my least favorite but now, I absolutely have a change of heart, so much better than “Ends”.
After reading a number of the reviews on Halloween Ends, The Curse and Resurrection may have some company atop that throne. At least you get to see Myers more often in the two latter flicks. I still remember seeing Rudd in Clueless that same year, who would have thought he'd blown up like he has, something good came out this flick at least.
but why on earth could none of these movies ever get that mask right!
@@GisherJohn24 lol I know right... I think Halloween 5 might have had the worst one, subjective of course. The old adage, if it's not broke, don't fix it. The Shatner mask in the first movie worked, simple, easy to see in the shadows from a viewers perspective and had enough creep to it.
@@MacMc691 it's like all the people in hollywood after Halloween 2 knew nothing about the importance of the mask! His shapeless identity was mostly due to that original mask. Did you see the flashbacks in halloween kills? That's how you bring back the classic correctly. Watch the flash backs of Halloween Kills and you'll see the mask in all it's glory. Looks perfect.
@@GisherJohn24 I loved it. They did a great job making the set look like it did in the original and the mask was spot on. Even the set guy, or whoever he was that played Loomis, looked enough like Pleasence that it felt like you were back in the original. Myers' mask is synonymous with Halloween, do it right... lol
I love the producers cut and this will always remain one of my favs in the series. The only thing I wish they changed was the incest angle. So out of place should’ve just used Danny as the sacrificial lamb
The first video I watched that got me into joblo was awfully good movies: Halloween 6. I haven't stopped watching since .
Jesse is the man!
It is good that there are people who say that despite its flaws it is not as bad as many say. Halloween 6 is my favorite of the whole saga and I don't regret seeing it
This has the slick editing, rock music, and atmosphere for us 90s teenagers at the time.
I always liked this entry of the series. After the original 2 (I don't count the third one.; it's great, but not a Michael Meyers film), 6 is my favorite.
I will defend H6 till the end of time. It does not deserve anywhere near the amount of abuse it receives. Sure, when we consider it alongside the previous films and the original, we have context for its flaws. But it's easily the scariest Halloween movie and it's the most intimidating Myers IMO, shit still creeps me out to this day.
Can you explain to me what was going on the film?
I really enjoyed Curse
yes!
I still believe it to be one of the better entries. Entertaining, dark, violent and visually interesting. Great cast too.
Michael with an axe is my favorite thing ever need an ultimate neca Halloween six lol
Hell yeh
I'll tell you one thing that makes Halloween 6 look ten times better!
Halloween Ends
Barry was, in fact, based on Howard Stern. They even tried to get Stern for the role.
The script for the shock jock was originally for Howard but he declined
Great video with a great argument for Curse. I still can’t on board, though. For all its positives that you bring up, I can never get past that story. Revenge & Resurrection are tied for worst of the whole series in my book, but even they had stories that made sense and could be followed.
I actually enjoyed H6 more than H5. They had to work with the silliness, mysteries, and questions that were left in H5. I like the atmosphere, feels like a Halloween (season) film, this is the best mask since the original/II For me, The kills were brutal and you can feel how in raged Michael is in this film despite his blank and mute nature.
It does have a good halloween vibe 1467 best hal,Owen vibes just saying my favourite lol
Honestly needed a pallet cleanser after Halloween Ends 😅
You should have been an attorney you actually convincing me this movie isn’t awful
I thought 6 was done very well! 👍. Paul Rudd playing Tommy Doyle was excellent!! And I felt it was a really good send-off for the Dr Loomis character. It's actually my second favorite one aside from the original.
the atmosphere and setting are good .. but my pick will always be 4 that opening montage in 4 masterpiece not only for halloween but for any movie .. I like the idea of a more rural haddonfield but 6 is a close second in the setting/atmosphere dept
the emo/gothic vibe in this movie is actually fire and his mask is cool too. this whole movie feels somewhat like a syfy film and it had potential.