These frames were made about from 1890 to 1905, the logo on the lid and the casework must be from 1905 or later, so it is something like a between model I would guess 1905. VIII is the Model. Here I made a comparison: ua-cam.com/video/aiG6zzQrYAE/v-deo.html
I do love your videos. Thank you for this one. What a gorgeous piano. (I love love love the Bosendorfer too - definitely my favourite piano make in general for their tone - not a fan of Yamaha though). I’d love it, but having just looked at it on your website realise it’s well out of my price range. I do have space for a small grand piano at one end of my living room, but have held back, partly because I suspect I’d get fed up with having such a large piano in the centre rear of the room and would be unable to move it for cleaning the floor etc, partly because I might have to downsize in a few years, and partly (as ever) because of cost. The other consideration is that the tone of my 85 key Kemble (which lives in my dining room and was inherited from my late mother who bought it new in 1987) is gorgeous - even the piano tuners wax lyrical over it. My sister in law has both an upright Grotrian Steinweg (for her son) and a Yamaha U3 (hers) in her house, my daughter in law has a beautiful Kawai - and I still prefer the tone of my little Kemble (a Kemble Cambridge model?) over them all. I’m currently (at well past retirement age) studying for ABRSM grade 3 (grade 1 passed last year, grade 2 this) and it is so lovely and such a joy to play - keys easy to depress, and very stable too. Just wish it had castors on it so I could move it to access the black hole behind it! Could definitely be tempted though if I could find a reasonable small grand to rent that would fit in my living room that I could give a try for a while.
I have pictures of that exact style of frame on an 1892 211cm and a 1907 189cm Grotrian, but I've seen it used as late as 1911, by which time the simpler Art Nouveau style was more the norm. As you say, the legs have almost certainly been changed, and I believe the music stand may have been, too. That style of stand is more in keeping with Grotrians made about 1913. I've seen the same style of logo on the fall on a 1908, a 1909, a 1910, and a 1911 170cm Grotrian.
Clara Schumann's favourite make of piano, apparently. My G S is a Model 192 purchased in late 1989 as a special order and like this one is finished in mahogany .
My 1911 170cm (#25151) has VII Y 72 cast on the frame, so I don't believe it corresponds to date. Mine had the knuckle style of shank, too, though it's now got the rollers. Interestingly, it's very common on Grotrians of this era to have the ribs glued and screwed to the soundboard. A tuner tried to tell me that someone had done this during a restoration, but I've seen enough Grotrians around this age with this same feature to know it is original!
These frames were made about from 1890 to 1905, the logo on the lid and the casework must be from 1905 or later, so it is something like a between model I would guess 1905. VIII is the Model.
Here I made a comparison: ua-cam.com/video/aiG6zzQrYAE/v-deo.html
I have Th. Steinweg #5015 from 1882 and it is totally constructed the same as your 1885 concert grand Steinweg which you demonstrate in another video.
Wow! Looking at the fine details in the harp, there is no question this piano is the highest quality.
I used to have a piano shop and I had at least 2 of those big Grotrian Steinweg grands. They sound amazing.
I love Grotrian Steinweg and also Schimmel pianos such fine quality and tone. I see the pin block is varnished, that seems unusual.
I do love your videos. Thank you for this one. What a gorgeous piano. (I love love love the Bosendorfer too - definitely my favourite piano make in general for their tone - not a fan of Yamaha though). I’d love it, but having just looked at it on your website realise it’s well out of my price range. I do have space for a small grand piano at one end of my living room, but have held back, partly because I suspect I’d get fed up with having such a large piano in the centre rear of the room and would be unable to move it for cleaning the floor etc, partly because I might have to downsize in a few years, and partly (as ever) because of cost. The other consideration is that the tone of my 85 key Kemble (which lives in my dining room and was inherited from my late mother who bought it new in 1987) is gorgeous - even the piano tuners wax lyrical over it. My sister in law has both an upright Grotrian Steinweg (for her son) and a Yamaha U3 (hers) in her house, my daughter in law has a beautiful Kawai - and I still prefer the tone of my little Kemble (a Kemble Cambridge model?) over them all. I’m currently (at well past retirement age) studying for ABRSM grade 3 (grade 1 passed last year, grade 2 this) and it is so lovely and such a joy to play - keys easy to depress, and very stable too. Just wish it had castors on it so I could move it to access the black hole behind it! Could definitely be tempted though if I could find a reasonable small grand to rent that would fit in my living room that I could give a try for a while.
So beautiful. Would love to bring it home. 🏆🎹
I have pictures of that exact style of frame on an 1892 211cm and a 1907 189cm Grotrian, but I've seen it used as late as 1911, by which time the simpler Art Nouveau style was more the norm. As you say, the legs have almost certainly been changed, and I believe the music stand may have been, too. That style of stand is more in keeping with Grotrians made about 1913. I've seen the same style of logo on the fall on a 1908, a 1909, a 1910, and a 1911 170cm Grotrian.
Beautiful
Clara Schumann's favourite make of piano, apparently. My G S is a Model 192 purchased in late 1989 as a special order and like this one is finished in mahogany .
My 1911 170cm (#25151) has VII Y 72 cast on the frame, so I don't believe it corresponds to date. Mine had the knuckle style of shank, too, though it's now got the rollers. Interestingly, it's very common on Grotrians of this era to have the ribs glued and screwed to the soundboard. A tuner tried to tell me that someone had done this during a restoration, but I've seen enough Grotrians around this age with this same feature to know it is original!
They don't make pianos as fine as that any
Me too
Lovely piece at 9:30, is that yours? Evan
No it's actually the piece that the previous owner is most well know for, called "Ladies in Lavender"