Dan Heng is alive | Apocalyptic shadow 4, MoC 12 | Honkai: Star rail

[@samsemy6825]

insane Apoc Shadows gameplay!
I've never seen someone utilize Quid Pro Quo so perfectly in a rotation and Dan Heng's playstyle really leans itself into juggling energy and buffs WEIRDLY perfectly, I can't believe that a free launch character keeps getting more intricate and versitile with time!

[@mvi_lab]

@samsemy6825 well, that's true that it's hard to find good gamplay on youtube. But I'm definitely not the only one who can use QpQ or play around characters' mechanics.

[@Toasty-69]

​@@mvi_labwhat QpQ do?

[@Anass_M]

That Dan Heng doing more ult dmg than my Acheron 💀

[@slimstrait780]

If you can really take enough time to setup niche builds, they can often be better than the norm.

[@The_CodFish69]

Bro has an interesting Archeron build then…

[@zelf8]

​@SordidusFellatio?? They have uid in eu server?? Why did you say they do this in test server??

[@leonziedrich4093]

@@The_CodFish69RNG is shit so it’s understandable, I’ve been farming acheron relics since its release and I never got good pieces from it.
My Acheron is stuck with her 62:128 crit ratio lmao

[@The_CodFish69]

@@leonziedrich4093 wow that's actually impressively bad... my condolences 🙏
As for me personally I have 3.9 ATK and my CR/CD is 76:225 ( S1 outside of combat )
And If I had the E1 I could switched my CR body for a CD god roll and I'd be able to hit 3.7 ATK and 74:273 CV.

[@saskiazaaura]

This Dan Heng has better score than my DHIL 💀

[@JDavi-nl1rc]

I do feel like it's nice to have more wind dps options, I also can't really understand the "this limited character will make the other ones useless by just existing!" discourse, it's so silly to assume everyone will have the new character and it will render the other ones as just downgrades
Clean Dan Heng gameplay there, love to see people pushing the gameplay to a higher standart, keep up the good work!

[@mvi_lab]

@JDavi-nl1rc I'm afraid Dan Heng was labeled as useless long before.

[@moikha226]

I don't understand either , people care only about meta for some reason, and when I talk about meta and provide them with evidence that a character is still relevant and usable or that a top meta character is overrated they either stay silent and ignor me or provide some of the weirdest excuses.

[@mvi_lab]

@moikha226 Welcome to the internet. You will get used to it. :)

[@SmashTheAdam]

That's why I'm skipping Lingsha, no way is she gonna invalidate my E6 Gallagher, I still wish she was Physical though, she would have been perfect for Boothill, acting as the Gallagher of Boothill's team

[@mvi_lab]

@SmashTheAdam yup. There are no must pull characters. We can always fill free space with 4*s.

[@absolenGD]

Peak Dan Heng gameplay , no words 🙌

[@artransformeraqe5692]

I just want more enemies and bosses with Wind Weakness.
I missed using Dan Heng when he was strong early game for me; now it’s just hard to justify using him

[@moikha226]

Respect for wind DH and Blade mains, their mains are being trashes as hell by most people , DH is a day 1 4* while Blade still doesn't have a deticated support after all this time, this video proves that you can use ant dps you want as long as you have the right supports.

[@mvi_lab]

@@moikha226 respect them, for sure.
Waifu > meta

[@miyakofuyama]

@@mvi_lab dan heng is the best waifu, for sure!

[@arcaana547]

​@@miyakofuyamawell yes

[@elhant4994]

Blade bashing is baffling to me, considering how good and versatile he is despite not having a dedicated support.
Than again, 95% of player base don't understand this games mechanics to it's fullest.

[@zannax351]

​@@elhant4994Blade's fine, his damage output has just fallen significantly behind the newer characters

[@yoshiz9480]

I agree on this vid very good 👍. still people remember pull who you like not judge by whos better or whos worser every character are good if used right 😎

[@Yambiii]

Also remember, Ruan Mei is a must

[@danalynch118]

@@Yambiii not really. Only for ff and bh but she’s good

[@jaguh9069]

I hope we got a better relic set for wind dps when Feixiao comes out.

[@solarenity]

nah fr, the ones we got now only work for supports 💀

[@No.1_Reuniclus_Fan]

This is my sign to re tweak my DH build. I used to main him for a long time but I thankfully kept my build anyways. I just need to give him more crit dmg even if it means he doesn’t have the 97 crit rate.

[@longstaffshaman6129]

Dan heng comeback arc

[@xLolwat]

Oh man this is very cool, really clean gameplay!! I really wanna try copying that apoc clear but no ratio LC or RM e1... Or a 2nd DDD, I barely have one S4 😅 might just try it out anyway with DDD ting and MotP RM and see how it turns out!

[@mvi_lab]

@@xLolwat you don't need 3781 scores.
3300 on each side are enough.

[@xLolwat]

@@mvi_lab haha yeah thanks! Just want to do my best for my man 🥰

[@user-wf5jm2nc1h]

I already have e1 sparkle, so I gotta get that additional eidolon on rerun. I also wrote off Robin in the beginning, so I’ll get her too. Harmonies are too stronk

[@mvi_lab]

@@user-wf5jm2nc1h yes, more Sparkle!
I'm also saving for her rerun.

[@cronoluminara6911]

Great job just to show support and skill is the key max skills

[@AloyImpact]

LETS GO DAN HENG LETS GOOOO

[@arini_arini9]

My first husbu in star rail

[@Mocchi-]

I love green Dan, do you think it could be possible to do a 4 star only run with him? Also watching this video gives me the idea to raise my 5 star supports so I can use characters like Arlan and Destruction MC.

[@mvi_lab]

@@Mocchi- not current MoC. :)
In Apoc, most likely.

[@MrSocrates_]

Waiting for the Dan Heng vids from my favorite 4* only troupe!

[@animalpetdrakenstar6598]

I forgot that AS Cocolia had wind weakness ngl, very nice

[@Ryan-wx3ck]

Do you recommend the 4pc quantum set or something else like 2pc/2pc diver+atk?

[@mvi_lab]

@@Ryan-wx3ck pioneer.
Or 2+2.

[@MozeFan]

Interesting... Okay, let me do this run now. :))

[@mvi_lab]

@@MozeFan you have my permission.

[@43z24]

They haven't released pure unga bunga Hunt DPS since Seele lasts 3 of them are 2 FUA 1 Break and my future proof worldwide-effect Seele's LC can't be use on anyone LMAO

[@mvi_lab]

@43z24 Seele isn't pure unga bunga. And her LC would be better for DH. 🤔

[@43z24]

@@mvi_lab i don't know how to describe that word but what i meant is normal dps
Like u press skill u deal dmg something like that not like special type like fua or break

[@Sloth-tr7bd]

The term you're looking for is "Crit Dps". That's the quo on quo normal dmg dps that isn't FUA, BE or DoT.

[@BailuGaming]

@@43z24 Ratio is a normal dps, you press skill and he does damage, you ult and he does damage. There are just some extra conditions for his skill to do damage, but essentialy he and JY are conventional DPS'. FuA is a damage type, not allways a playstyle.

[@eclik9908]

Thx for video, now im sure that i need feixio

[@ffcmobilelegends2825]

Damn, cool dan heng!

[@oyfum2638]

Base form Dan Heng better then his glow up form 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@solarenity]

alright bro ur buggin

[@Sloth-tr7bd]

Well, as someone who wants to show some love to their wind Danny again, this is neat. I invented a lot in my DHIL(e2s1 with 70/199 ratio) and he brute forced so much stuff for me. So I thought why not treat wind Danny as well, since he's my favorite char anyway. Though I'm not sure what set to invest in, I thought of changing Wind set to Pioneer since I can proc the effect with Danny, Mei and Aventurine/Gallagher. Is the quantum set actually better? I also plan on getting Seele's LC for him when she re runs. Is it still better on him or should I try for Ratio's LC when he possibly gets re run in 2.5?

[@mvi_lab]

@Sloth-tr7bd 1. Don't use quantum set on him, I don't have other sets.
2. Seele LC is his bis, I don't have it.
Wind or Pioneer? Hard to say. Both should be very good.
I'd use Eagle because this set is more fun. But it contradicts his E4.

[@Sloth-tr7bd]

​@@mvi_lab Alright, big thanks!

[@raimcm3257]

Is there a significant loss of DPS when using Cruising in the Stellar Sea LC and Meshing Cogs (on Tingyun)?

[@mvi_lab]

@raimcm3257 yes. It's not a problem for Apoc, but in MoC you should compensate it, like: replace Sparkle with Robin.

[@danalynch118]

Have we even gotten a feixiao (hope I spelled that right) gameplay showcase/leak? No? Then we don’t know smh

[@mvi_lab]

@@danalynch118 I haven't seen yet.
But we have her picture. That should be enough.

[@danalynch118]

@@mvi_lab But it’s not? How will we know if she power creeps anyone at all w/ogameplay. Until I’m proven wrong I’m saying no

[@mvi_lab]

@danalynch118 I explained in the video why she won't: 0:04. This was 99.9997% accurate conclusion.
But if she is your type (which you can say from the picture most of the time), she is better without any doubts. Because lvl 90 character can powercreep lvl 1 character.

[@danalynch118]

@@mvi_lab OHHHH THATS WHAT YOU MEANT. MY BAD I MISUNDERSTOOD

[@gohassj]

Can bronya be a good substitute for RM on apoc?

[@mvi_lab]

@@gohassj ua-cam.com/video/Wk5xZRZT0ZM/v-deo.htmlsi=DQhMekVcAm27J6gH

[@user-rc2dm1qn9f]

Даже на фоне 4* Дань Хэна - тот же Блейд, облепленный гармонистками еще меньше импакт внесет, вот где грустно

[@mvi_lab]

@user-rc2dm1qn9f no comments.
I don't have Blade, but I've read too many comments about this character is weak, this character can not do anything.
And every time I saw gamplay or tested the character myself, it appeared to be skill issue: the character was simply used wrong.

[@LittleDevil._.]

Open UA-cam and watch a bunch of videos about how Blade goes through content. There is even a video where he closed Moc in 0 moves. There are no weak characters, there are crooked hands and an unwillingness to think :3

[@WeiForever]

Ok, you convinced me to build my Huohuo, Sparkle, Ruan Mei. 😌Is Robin better than Sparkle in this case? edit: you already answered it 😅
I think this is how HSR manages power creep (tldr: dps from v11.0 will only be twice as strong as the dps from v1.0 with good supports):
*example*, weakness & buff are still very important aspect
Version | damage dealer | support scaling
1.0 scaling 1 11
2.0 scaling 1.1 12
3.0 scaling 1.2 13
....
11.0 scaling 2.0 21
v1.0 damage dealer with v11.0 support: 21
v11.0 damage dealer with v11.0 support: 42
adding one more so you see the bigger pic
v11.0 damage dealer with v1.0 support: 22

[@mvi_lab]

@WeiForever is that so? Hmm, maybe you are right. Can't say for sure.
Yes, I'd expect Robin to be a better partner for DH. As you can see, Sparkle barely changes DH's spd. Advancing is a big part of her contribution. If I didn't have E2 Sparkle, I would use Ruan Mei.
But RM is also not that good for DH. He has his own res ignore and he is very fast. So, Robin has to be best in slot.

[@WeiForever]

@@mvi_lab saving for Robin rerun and dancex3 lc rerun

[@Mariengrad1648]

What about hyperbreak Dan Heng?

[@mvi_lab]

Vs. who?
I thought about it in Apoc, but didn't test. I need Tingyun and RM to kill pillars ASAP (i think I wouldn't have enough damage without them). I doubt MC would be better, but, again, didn't test.

[@mattyplus101]

Sampo seems like a much better choice

[@Mariengrad1648]

@@mattyplus101 I don't have Sampo.

[@djsalty3799]

Waiting for people to write off this video for using 5* limited LC and E2 sparkle xd
Great showcase, people are too quick to write off some characters

[@mvi_lab]

@@djsalty3799 yup, we are not supposed to use stellarjades.

[@Kaktus796]

Are those things supposed to be insignificant?

[@djsalty3799]

@@Kaktus796 Considering the fact that the Apoc team got 3781, yeah that's insanely good when you need an average of 3300 for each side. Yeah, mvi has a e1 ruan mei and dr. ratio LC but getting 481 extra AV is no joke. I am sure that mvi could still get a 3300+ score using an e0 ruan mei and 5* stellar sea LC instead, and that the team is not "carried to passing" just because of those two factors. Mvi's point that dan heng is still a solid wind dps in his own right still stands, with him being the solo dps of the team as showcased. I don't take tier lists that seriously, but the fact that dan heng is clearing well when he is considered a low tier character speaks for itself.
The real "carry" of the team is the fact that mvi is piloting the team well and the good relics that mvi has taken the time to farm and invest in. Relics are the main source of your team's dmg, which are rng to make it harder for you to reach any team's "theoretical dmg ceiling", at which point breaking set bonus is more viable than most players think for dmg. Plus, mvi's talents aren't even maxed so more dmg is possible.
As for the e2 sparkle MOC team, mvi's notes for the section are listed there and using the dang heng team for this MOC and still getting 5 cycles is solid considering the "handicaps" on the team's performance.

[@djsalty3799]

@@Kaktus796

[@thehosdadal4542]

Can he win in pure fiction?

[@mvi_lab]

@thehosdadal4542 sure, with some support from Jade. That 30 spd is very important.

[@rineqe]

yes, we need another wind hunt cuz i dont want to play male char

[@JhonniexCwalk]

Sorry but i pull for waifus

[@mvi_lab]

@@JhonniexCwalk I forgive you.