I took this class with Scott in 2022 and really enjoyed it. I immediately incorporated Scott's techniques like the "4 P's", his grip, the "wave"/12 o'clock descending sight, stabbing down on the gun in the holster, etc. I still use the "stab" technique on the draw. Then Ben Stoeger, who I really respect in terms of his skill, concepts, and achievements, started up Instagram drama (as he unfortunately likes to do...) mocking some of Scott's techniques and teaching strategy. Grandmaster Matt Pranka hosted an IG discussion between Stoeger and Scott, and I was so surprised to see Scott unable to back up the "why" behind some of his techniques. For example, Pranka pointed out that if you see the dot dropping from 12 o'clock, then by the nature of that act you're being inefficient because the sight is purposefully put over the target so you can then bring it back down. I think I've heard Scott say that "you may not even see the dot drop from 12" which makes more sense, but the possibility exists that many students like myself misunderstood that, thinking we have to SEE it happen, which would be an inefficiency. I would think Scott has made changes in either how he explains his techniques or has changed some of the techniques that he teaches since 2022. Regardless of what you think about Scott or his techniques, he is a very competent shooter and better than 99% of us. Just thought I'd give my personal experience.
Thank you for sharing I have watched all your videos with handgun combative and every video with MSP. I got lucky and get to train with Scott next year in Ruskin Fl I am looking so forward to it. Your videos are very informative Thank you Sir.
Thanx so much for putkting up this video. I took Jedi's class early this year, and this video is a great reminder of all of the little important things that i have a tendency to overlook during practice. This video will help a ton!! 🤙
Thanks for putting this up. It definitely helps! I understand that a video is no substitute for going to a class but these little nuggets of wisdom are definitely appreciated!
The Thinar and the MCP or metacarpophalangeal joint are the two markers of the shooting and support hands that must be mated to each other to control the handgun.
@@Tier1Citizen so you push your suport hand Thinar up and back in to the firing hand to close the gap? If i do that i need to slightly push forward in beavertail with firing hand.is this corect? Thank you
My grip is different than most others because my hands are so huge. My support hand is canted forward and my trigger finger has to be backed off a bit otherwise it makes contact with the inside palm of my support hand.
@@jesseclausse6208 I’m with you, I really like his philosophy. I only mention him because he doesn’t get into the technical pieces of the grip per se, but rather focuses on grip pressures. I love how he talks about feeling to pressure in your forearms rather than your shoulders and not worrying about trying to mitigate all of the recoil.
Jst gotta be funy and say I like guns and nkt so much martial.arts because of bare feet....eeew....and I knkw train..but I can deal with hands better than feet
@@Tier1Citizenwhat it means for jamming the thinar in the mcp? He said to put presure to the suport pinky driving the suport index finger up in to the trigerguard and drive the thinar up and back towards the 1oclock( hamer) ?
I took this class with Scott in 2022 and really enjoyed it. I immediately incorporated Scott's techniques like the "4 P's", his grip, the "wave"/12 o'clock descending sight, stabbing down on the gun in the holster, etc. I still use the "stab" technique on the draw.
Then Ben Stoeger, who I really respect in terms of his skill, concepts, and achievements, started up Instagram drama (as he unfortunately likes to do...) mocking some of Scott's techniques and teaching strategy. Grandmaster Matt Pranka hosted an IG discussion between Stoeger and Scott, and I was so surprised to see Scott unable to back up the "why" behind some of his techniques. For example, Pranka pointed out that if you see the dot dropping from 12 o'clock, then by the nature of that act you're being inefficient because the sight is purposefully put over the target so you can then bring it back down. I think I've heard Scott say that "you may not even see the dot drop from 12" which makes more sense, but the possibility exists that many students like myself misunderstood that, thinking we have to SEE it happen, which would be an inefficiency.
I would think Scott has made changes in either how he explains his techniques or has changed some of the techniques that he teaches since 2022. Regardless of what you think about Scott or his techniques, he is a very competent shooter and better than 99% of us. Just thought I'd give my personal experience.
Thank you for sharing I have watched all your videos with handgun combative and every video with MSP. I got lucky and get to train with Scott next year in Ruskin Fl I am looking so forward to it. Your videos are very informative Thank you Sir.
Thanx so much for putkting up this video. I took Jedi's class early this year, and this video is a great reminder of all of the little important things that i have a tendency to overlook during practice. This video will help a ton!! 🤙
Thanks for putting this up. It definitely helps! I understand that a video is no substitute for going to a class but these little nuggets of wisdom are definitely appreciated!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for this I’m lefty and always wondered how to run his grip with thumb near ejection port
Fantastic - I can't wait to get to this class.
You're going to enjoy it.
What does it mean for jaming thinar in to the mcp?
The Thinar and the MCP or metacarpophalangeal joint are the two markers of the shooting and support hands that must be mated to each other to control the handgun.
@@Tier1Citizen so you push your suport hand Thinar up and back in to the firing hand to close the gap? If i do that i need to slightly push forward in beavertail with firing hand.is this corect? Thank you
Yeah it's like Scott says "put the hump into the hole."
@@Tier1Citizen ok what for suport hand .are you using a c clamp driving the fingers down in the pinky?
My grip is different than most others because my hands are so huge. My support hand is canted forward and my trigger finger has to be backed off a bit otherwise it makes contact with the inside palm of my support hand.
You can't try his techniques for acouple days and quit. It might feel odd, but it gets better.
Meh, I’m not sure getting that technical with the grip is helpful. How do you feel about Ben Stoeger’s philosophy in this area?
Bens grip theory is spot on, and he has the accolades to back it.
@@jesseclausse6208 I’m with you, I really like his philosophy. I only mention him because he doesn’t get into the technical pieces of the grip per se, but rather focuses on grip pressures.
I love how he talks about feeling to pressure in your forearms rather than your shoulders and not worrying about trying to mitigate all of the recoil.
@Dillydilly956 interesting...!
Jst gotta be funy and say I like guns and nkt so much martial.arts because of bare feet....eeew....and I knkw train..but I can deal with hands better than feet
Awesome look forward too the rest of the msp vids
There are a bunch more to come.
@@Tier1Citizen Thanks for doing that! I'd love to see more of how the class compares in 2024. I took his class in 2022.
@musicman1eanda there are a bunch more videos coming.
The 1 o clock is kinds confusing the barrel is 12 right so up and back would be too the right side
Yep
@@Tier1Citizenwhat it means for jamming the thinar in the mcp? He said to put presure to the suport pinky driving the suport index finger up in to the trigerguard and drive the thinar up and back towards the 1oclock( hamer) ?