EXACTLY .... no self respecting South Africans should have to suffer because of the ego of ANYONE in parliament. Make it happen and work. DA deserves cabinet positions ....they did their time and work and we need them to shine now so dont hold them back.
@@cotton3912 honestly politics have proven to be more of a divider than a unifier of society..there’s so many agendas behind a simple laimen could never tell…it can’t continue to be about part A or Part B as this is not sports’ they are lives at stake here…cabinet ministers should be community leaders.honestly I feel like we need to come up with an alternative system that has vested power into masses and not the messiah mentality of politics “vote for me I will do this and that” an not more beautiful speeches..…we have been dealt with the worst psychological conditioning to human kind …I’m yet to see any leader break down the geographical,demographical and economical breakdown of findings an practical solutions at hand to progress society ..a 5year-20year plan an how performance will be measured and action to be taken….people should be taught what,how is government as a curriculum in schools to make informed decision an know what role do they play as individual in society…people don’t even know what they’re voting but simple personalities hence here we are today…Alex being next to sandton an we’ve acclimatized as normal
I think we are on the losing side here. The people remember all our racist outbursts, I did tell you to tone it down but you were like "yah yah protecting 30 percenters"
Damn and you are right, the general population has a disdain for white people in political power because of their past experience, and this is not just relegated to regular people. And yet here we are
I don't think this is going to happen, because the ANC will cling to power like parasites to flesh drinking the blood pf South Africa, feeding on the cotizens money to enrich and empower themselves! Theywill never work with anyone unless their demands are met first. I hate the ANC!!! Because of them we have left the Country.
No reasonable person should blame DA for it is ANC that brought itself to its knees. If ANC hadn’t taken the downtrodden Native South Africans for granted over the years for it’s obvious failure to do the needful of embarking on radical reformation, the DA wouldn’t be making outrageous cabinet portfolios demands in the untenable so-called coalition government.
We care about South Africa it's democracy , protecting the constitution and our economy, that is inclusive , we don't want a party that is self seeking like the DA
We care about South Africa it's democracy , protecting the constitution and our economy, that is inclusive , we don't want a party that is self seeking like the DA
The DA should be blamed if they are demanding to be given certain ministries. They should be allowed to indicate the number of ministries if they know how big the cabinet will be, because that can be calculated. But as to which ministries they get, that should be left to cyril.
I m just glad that they are not bowing down to these colonizers , they are so delusional and so desperate to take us to apartheid. they will never govern in our continent , so glad the MK emerged to balance things. interresting times.
Nonsense. She is saying that they must cater for all the parties in the GNU and that is simply to appear as if they, the ANC, care about everyone and being inclusive. The ANC sat smugly in parliament and ignored valid issues being raised by the opposition. The PA and the smaller parties who she is saying must be included cannot take the ANC over 50% threshold or else they would ditch the DA who continuously hold up the mirror. She is wanting the DA to appear unreasonable and that is to attempt to retain the ANC stronghold prior to the election. The President has one last chance to gain credibility and that is to appoint competent ministers. If he ditches the DA and makes up with the MK he is in effect saying that the ineffective government of the past 10 years is okay and he is fine with it. The President does not have complete control because the NEC is part of the rock and the hard place. I hope that once the Cabinet members are appointed they are given performance contracts and are held to account regularly. The likes of Bathabile Dlamini, Beke Cele, Nomvula Mokonyane and Ace Magashule were not of the right calibre to name a few.
Not that I support this petite bourgeoi nonsense, but an EFF+MK+ANC will put everything to bed, ANC will recall Ramaphosa for their favorable character like Mashatile. What will your DA do?
@@AdvocateMkunqwana My DA will be back on the bench, our economy will Tank, the Rand will devalue to new lows, corruption will see new heights and us as citizens will experience more increased poverty and suffering. That''s my simple and frank answer!
Corruption must be asked to Msholozi and others that worked with them in 2008 after Polokwane not us as members of the movement the ANC it's name how on earth can the name to be corrupt ?? are the people in leadership not ANC.
Voters already punished the ANC, what's left now is to see if they repent or not. I hope they grow a backbone and push back at the DA bullying tactics.
Shem... people are not unemployed because of ANC. Why do you think EFF is against privatisation? Malema is trying to make you see the root-cause but because the obsession is with ANC . . .
The main answer to all the bickering is to amend section 25 to allow state custodianship of the land without compensation.. Then have a state bank to develop local enterpreneurs and give loans for housing to the missing middle. Establish industries in poeples hometowns to curb logitical nightmares. In England , land belongs to the king who is the head of state.Everyone else living on that land is leased for 99 years. Here the so called investors we shall suffer economic turmoil if land is state owned. What kind of nonsense is that ?
@@victoriousandblessed.You are completely CLUELESS if you think things must be state owned hahaha what has happened when things are state owned, NOTHING. What happened to VBS bank that was controlled by Malema, he stole all the clients money, disgusting
The ANC is not going to take notice of anything unless they are in the lead. Theis woman said they will not respond to the demands of the DA. I Think she doesn't understand that the ANC never got the majority election. The DA must stick to their guns.
@@shirleyolivier2313 the ANC hasn't always embraced DA economic policy and if you look back at 2002-2007 economic policy juxtaposed with the growth of support it should paint a picture of what happened.
ANC will pay a very heavy price because they have chosen to sell out. MK+EFF +ANC is the only combination that will bring economic transformation if politicians put their personal differences behind. They should hold a reconciliation ceremony to forgive each other and move on. People come first . Personal differences , personal wealth etc should be kept aside. After all they have already accumulated enough.
First time I hear NomV being this frank and straightforward. Also not protecting her own cronies. Indeed the GNU has humbled many people/politicians. Aluta continua✊🏽
They are fighting for their lives. When the Da goes into each position, all the theft and corruption and Anc Self enrichment will be revealed. We wait and see happily.
@KlaasKlaasen012 neither does your skin make you the deciding voice. Your argument about the anc's position in the GNU is flawed. No party would have agreed to join if the terms were clear that the anc remains the decision maker with the rest jumping to their tune. The DA knows what needs to change and that is what they are arguing for
so Helen Zille might actually help unite pro-African parties?? Interesting! Please keep Madam Zille talking. If she's not talking let her type letters.
I'm amazed by ANC's humble approach. It is actually exposing DA greatly. What I'm learning in these GNU talks is that each hour is different - its like an amoeba, it's shapeless..
@@shirleyolivier2313 At least they seem read to rule again as opposed to the DA which is surely not ready and immature to govern even when offered ANC support, expertise and credibility to govern Black majority in particular. Surely DA has no idea on how to govern Black people. Judging from the lived reality of poor people, including poor white people in Brooklyn and Goodwood amongst other areas.
I still hope GNU can work as the DA President seems to approach these talks with a cool head. This was a grand opportunity for DA to redeem itself and win the heart and minds of the majority voters. However, it looks like DA is exposing what is unbearable to South Africans.
R30 to the $....collapse will happen overnight the big overseas companies are waiting to leave..they dont need south africa and its corrupt unions and BEE ...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Comrade Ramaphosa must be Demoted from the State President's position because he received the position via GNU what goes around comes around ayikhale Madoda....!! Why you were so rush rush as if you are ready vele vele 🤔🤔🤔🤔
All I hear here is POWER and CONTROL. Not 1 word about working to build a new non racist country where all can live and Prosper. Thabo Mbeki should rule the GNU!!!!
The country will thank the ANC for not going through with this thing. As rabid DA supporters we are a scourge, and I know I will dragged up on that by my friend Cachalia, but it is the solemn truth.
This is the kind of woman I’d be proud to associate with … what an intellect !, fearless ….powerful ….Enjoyed listening to her …. May God restore South Africa and may God bless our country
If I may ask how many seats does the ANC HAVE AND what is the ANC seats it wants to hold ON is it ALL THE SEATS WHERE ANC STILL WANTS TO RULE SA ONE HANDED AND NOT SHARE POWER WITH DA AND SMALLER PARTIES Is the ANC STILL HOLDING ONTO BLACK POWER ONLY AND ALONE BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT FOR THE LAST THIRTY YEARSS
DA thinks highly of themselves undermining other Parties as if it's the two of them ANC AND DA they can go and jump in the Western Cape lake i have lost respect for them they are very selfish 😮
So now is no longer about stepping aside after being charged, now is being rewritten to FOUND GUILTY 😂😂😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 We have said many times that step aside rule is only used to purge political opponents in the ANC, just like the mythical RENEWAL non-existent song💯🤞
Ya the ANC still want the corrupt cadres to stay in parliament, I love the DA any position that has control of large amounts of money must go to the DA and the deputy can be the ANC. VOILA🎉🎉 NO MORE STEALING AND CROOKED TENDERS 😂
The ANC is talking about self-respect in 2024 🤣 ACTIONSA laughing at the DA.. told you so😂🤣 quality of character. The DA is a now racist but the were not racist when Cyril had to be elected...We really do need new people in charge of this country 🟢
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 So the Dutch laws, Roman - Dutch laws, Van Der Linden Institutes Hollandse laws still applicable in South Africa currently, even in the Constitutional Court in interdict to protect, must be scrapped too. Please give it up with blame game and "pedestrian" arguments. Stop blaming and work with what you have. Yo, excuses blaming will continue without intellectual consideration, Vetri EC Komani 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏
@@waltervetri2476 it is not a blame game when your life revolves around it, I understand we benefit from it so you pay it no mind but those who are met with it have it define their lives. We agreed to work together 1994, are the Africans not worse off?
@@waltervetri2476 who has been preventing the ANC from doing its work? We paid the ANC to get it wrong, you know this don't you? We hamstrung them with an imposed constitution because we had the power and still have it so any failure is attributable to Dutch settlers and our desire to live on a European standard at the expense of Africans. Can that just be overlooked?
She's never worked so hard in her life. She has never had to run a positive spin toward the corrupt Anc on her life. She forgets we remember how crap the ANC was and all the business's that have closed down eg Transnet. Thousands have lost their jobs at the mines. It was them eating. Rocks thrown into the boilers of Eskom as the coal was inferior broke eskom no maintenance. We remember ANC. WE WILL NOT REPEAT THAT. WESTERN CAPE HAS THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT WE WANT THAT.
This is what PA, EFF and Action SA spoke about, DA is the arrogant difficult partner in coalitions. Drop the DA, they going to make governance difficult. DA should drop Helen Zille if they know what is good for them.
If they know what is good for them 🤓 stay quiet kid and thank god on your bare feet that white people are in africa or that place would look like banana congo 🤣
@ksmathibela4761 as much but not with the DA we just can't not with whites not again we had it n its too much. We haven't forgot about apartheid n the looting....
Haha! Does she understand what she said? She said it’s not about proportional representation in the GNU, so then why don’t they distribute the cabinet positions equally between ALL political parties and see if that works out better for them than working with the party that has second most seats in parliament. Smoke and mirrors. The DA has every right to make its demands. It has the upper hand in this situation. Without them the ANC cannot successfully form a government that can fix the country. And it is clearer than ever that if they don’t fix the county (that they broke mostly under Zuma and his cronies) then they may be begging other parties for a seat at the table. The truth is that the only party that has delivered on its promises to an extent is the DA. ANC started off well and then corruption and cronyism destroyed the country. The EFF is insane. MK is made up of the corrupt cronies that broke the country in the first place and no one else has any votes of significance other than the IFP in KZN.
It appears like she doesn’t understand that the ANC did not secure a majority of over 50%. Any party forming a coalition with them will naturally seek equal treatment. She seems to believe that parties are merely there to make up the numbers. The reality is every party, including the ANC, wants POWER!!.
The ANC must recognize that their election victory doesn't grant them absolute power. They need to engage in constructive negotiations with the DA, acknowledging the opposition party's demands and conditions. This requires a willingness to listen, compromise, and find common ground, rather than imposing their will unilaterally.
They should actually it can't be most GNU members are complaining about the DA holding us back with their demands. It's not about the DA but the collective, demanding positions shows who really has no honour.
@@thomasgosling5155 I'm not sure about that however honestly I don't care. Why is the DA so obsessed with positions and detacting terms like they won most votes. Actually just like the the ANC the DA regressed it's not like the DA grew in voters. It's not about the DA and their pompous attitudes nor the ANC, let all GNU members participate in a meaningful manner because that's will of the voters not the DA or ANC. Working together is key not identity politics the GNU must be exactly that Unity amongst all members, not a Power trip between the ANC and DA. Ultimately the DA didn't have most votes they can't dictate to the ANC or downplay other GNU members or as if their representation more important, or is it? Let the president announce his cabinet rather it becomes discussed and voted by parliament members. Better an inclusive process rather than an exclusive agreement between the DA and the ANC. The GNU doesn't need bosses it needs all leaders.
Yes big time, DA rescue ANC not South Africa they didn't see it coming. Section 91 of the constitution the President have the right to appoint ministers and to fire them and DA don't have demands they were played.
My question is, which positions does the ANC and the other 8 parties want. We can't fool ourselves that all these parties went in without any position expectation. Let them all declare what is it that they want.
The ANC won't do that. They want to keep certain portfolios for parties that will side with them. Listen to garnief Hendricks of Al-Jama-ah who gave their secret away.
Third time I see you @MBReader410, lol... In all comments you sound like you stand with DA.. askies bro, or sister!... Honestly I think ANC just used the DA.
They're giving passive pre-emptive attacks. Why can't the respect the process and other partners instead of pushing the anc into a corner to do what the DA wants. If need be the ANC must rather from another GNU with other partners without the DA and ensure it has a parliamentar majority without them. It's politics.
So there is nothing wrong with the DA, ANC discussions, hoping they can come to a solution for this country. it is so nice as DA is always said to be Alleged Rasist. As other parties as well have made alleged racist remarks
ANC never won ,they had to get 50% + 1 . I am not sure why they are behaving like they won outright . CR should choose people who are qualified from different parties to be ministers .
True, but he can't take orders from the DA. The GNU is not there to serve the interests of the DA. Neither can the ANC be blackmailed by a party that only got 2 out of 10 votes.
@KlaasKlaasen012 It is actually funny to read all these comments on different platforms and how people respond The fact is people did vote for political parties of their choice and give them a mandate to rule on their behalf Nothing we say now can change those votes and political parties must sort it out and serve the citizens of South Africa 🇿🇦
@KlaasKlaasen012 whatever you say I am a South African citizen and all I want from government is that they look after us and not to the benefit of themselves I don't have a problem with any person, irrespective of skin colour, but we can't threaten others, dominate them or telling them they don't belong in South Africa 🇿🇦
Wait for ANC/EFF/MK relationship, then you'll see a complete sewerage. You must be thinking that the MK isn't going to be outlandish in it's demands. I don't even want to talk about the suffering that relationship is going to bring to poor people.
"This is not a GNU, its a coalition." Tito Mboweni. ANC is still in denial, come over to Lesotho and we shall teach you a thing or two about coalition agreements!
Remember State Capture.....and now this spokesperson ? Starting like this? I can nòt forget Judge Zondo's face, and questions......no. NO. And stop talking about racism......its becoming a wobbly crutch for the ANC
You speaks well mama❤. ANC is not afraid of DA.they will deal with them.i like to tell the DA that they have no leadership.they just make a noise.is Better FF+ PS than them
This guy was pushing her for a negative answer (his really sickening and pathetic as an anchor) she answered so well and was professional, he used the words “demand” over and over and was clearly biased in his questions to her.. thank God his not in government.. useless interviewer
If you do shady things then any questions for the truth will sound negative. She couldn't give straight answers either. So Zizi was called back even tho he is corrupt for when the ANC needs him to vote for them and guess whose tax is paying for his corrupt vote? No person of integrity wants to be in association with a corrupt person? Bad character corrupts good morals
People want to rush into something without a proper foundation, this government has to have stability and trust without emotional choices to help progress the country from where it is to where it needs to be. b
How are these parties ONLY discussing terms and conditions after announcing a purpoted GNU and marriage Something is not make sure. Are they breaking up, divorcing or separating? What are the consequences of such a break up for south africa When is the business of government starting? Service delivery 😢😢😢😢😢
It sounds like you are saying the right words , but its to late. You made your mark zuma is ANC. Just give in , you will still get your salary ,but leave the work to the people that really want to make a change.
One thing I hate about politicians…☹️ it’s always about party and politics not people and their struggles with practical solutions at hand..
EXACTLY .... no self respecting South Africans should have to suffer because of the ego of ANYONE in parliament. Make it happen and work. DA deserves cabinet positions ....they did their time and work and we need them to shine now so dont hold them back.
@@cotton3912 honestly politics have proven to be more of a divider than a unifier of society..there’s so many agendas behind a simple laimen could never tell…it can’t continue to be about part A or Part B as this is not sports’ they are lives at stake here…cabinet ministers should be community leaders.honestly I feel like we need to come up with an alternative system that has vested power into masses and not the messiah mentality of politics “vote for me I will do this and that” an not more beautiful speeches..…we have been dealt with the worst psychological conditioning to human kind …I’m yet to see any leader break down the geographical,demographical and economical breakdown of findings an practical solutions at hand to progress society ..a 5year-20year plan an how performance will be measured and action to be taken….people should be taught what,how is government as a curriculum in schools to make informed decision an know what role do they play as individual in society…people don’t even know what they’re voting but simple personalities hence here we are today…Alex being next to sandton an we’ve acclimatized as normal
That is so true and fewer people are noticing this matter.
This GNU needs to work!
The ANC and DA and other parties need to find a way to serve the people of the country!
I think we are on the losing side here. The people remember all our racist outbursts, I did tell you to tone it down but you were like "yah yah protecting 30 percenters"
With what policies who must bend over this is just rubbish let anc turn to the left wingers EFF and MKP where we thought they belong
Damn and you are right, the general population has a disdain for white people in political power because of their past experience, and this is not just relegated to regular people. And yet here we are
I don't think this is going to happen, because the ANC will cling to power like parasites to flesh drinking the blood pf South Africa, feeding on the cotizens money to enrich and empower themselves! Theywill never work with anyone unless their demands are met first. I hate the ANC!!! Because of them we have left the Country.
Yes!!!!
No reasonable person should blame DA for it is ANC that brought itself to its knees. If ANC hadn’t taken the downtrodden Native South Africans for granted over the years for it’s obvious failure to do the needful of embarking on radical reformation, the DA wouldn’t be making outrageous cabinet portfolios demands in the untenable so-called coalition government.
ANC EFF MK unite under Naledi Pandor... !!!
@@aceheart5828 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We care about South Africa it's democracy , protecting the constitution and our economy, that is inclusive , we don't want a party that is self seeking like the DA
We care about South Africa it's democracy , protecting the constitution and our economy, that is inclusive , we don't want a party that is self seeking like the DA
The DA should be blamed if they are demanding to be given certain ministries. They should be allowed to indicate the number of ministries if they know how big the cabinet will be, because that can be calculated. But as to which ministries they get, that should be left to cyril.
Whenever he says "There are those" , I turn the volume up a bit because I know the juice is coming.
Love this guy.
Keep up the good work👌🏻
I m just glad that they are not bowing down to these colonizers , they are so delusional and so desperate to take us to apartheid. they will never govern in our continent , so glad the MK emerged to balance things. interresting times.
Its best that EFF stay away from this mess
The EFF, just hold on, they are going to join. Their love for Gucci overalls will not allow them to remain outside🤣🤣🤣.
lol
Yebo.... there is nothing u can negotiate with racist
Well the ANC is turning this into a circus and every circus needs clowns ... and the EFF are clowns.
Lol hei after DA's demands EFF is not a problem anymore yerrrr.... lol they seem to care about themselves... that's a shame @@thomasprogli3372
For 30 years the ANC was not ready, how can we expect that they will be ready now
They will get helped by other parties.
They don't want to grow up
These people are not saying anything about voters and the people. They serve the president
Thank you. These people WE voted for must respect us and our wishes. I wish their arrogance can for once be out aside and serve the people properly.
True
He's feeding them crumbs and corruption and sellouts are satisfied with that.
What about voters. You voted, it’s done
But they are still representing the voters Voices. Remember there are voters that agree with DA and those that agree with ANC
Step aside was for ACE Magashule,since then step aside has been spiced in explanations
He is unable to point one house which asbestos roof was removed.
But ramaphosa and zizi can stand😂😂😂😂stupid people won't understand politics
They are now stepping aside inside
@@tsekomofokeng182 He was a Primier it's not his job to know.
We don't care about ace wtf
Teaching our youth that corruption is okay youncan step down and get away with it aai
This woman can really answer questions she’s clear and to the point 👌🏽
Nonsense. She is saying that they must cater for all the parties in the GNU and that is simply to appear as if they, the ANC, care about everyone and being inclusive. The ANC sat smugly in parliament and ignored valid issues being raised by the opposition. The PA and the smaller parties who she is saying must be included cannot take the ANC over 50% threshold or else they would ditch the DA who continuously hold up the mirror. She is wanting the DA to appear unreasonable and that is to attempt to retain the ANC stronghold prior to the election. The President has one last chance to gain credibility and that is to appoint competent ministers. If he ditches the DA and makes up with the MK he is in effect saying that the ineffective government of the past 10 years is okay and he is fine with it. The President does not have complete control because the NEC is part of the rock and the hard place. I hope that once the Cabinet members are appointed they are given performance contracts and are held to account regularly. The likes of Bathabile Dlamini, Beke Cele, Nomvula Mokonyane and Ace Magashule were not of the right calibre to name a few.
ANC Vote at 40%. No more majority! Lets see where this goes! Must be hard not to have a majority for the first time 30 years!
... but the ANC is ready to be on the opposition bench ... LOL
@@thomasprogli3372 Their time on that bench as you say will come with time! I agree with you!
Not that I support this petite bourgeoi nonsense, but an EFF+MK+ANC will put everything to bed, ANC will recall Ramaphosa for their favorable character like Mashatile. What will your DA do?
@@AdvocateMkunqwana My DA will be back on the bench, our economy will Tank, the Rand will devalue to new lows, corruption will see new heights and us as citizens will experience more increased poverty and suffering. That''s my simple and frank answer!
The ANC can simply dissolve the GNU form a coalition with the EFF and PA. Boom DA watxhes from sidelines
Wow she is a trained politician. Watch how she dribbles the questions.
We are here today because of Corruption >
well said hahaha
Still going to continue 😂😂😂anc and DA are one entity
Actually the real corruption started when Europeans invaded AFRICAN land
You know you lie
Corruption must be asked to Msholozi and others that worked with them in 2008 after Polokwane not us as members of the movement the ANC it's name how on earth can the name to be corrupt ?? are the people in leadership not ANC.
Voters will punish ANC so badly if they mess this up. It will be the end for them at next election.
Amen I was talking to my colleagues earlier and said if ANC mess up this, it will be the end of them. They have to make sure this works
Are we going back to apartheid with no humanity.
Voters will punish them if they give in to bullying tactics by the DA. That will finish them.
@@cliffb1932 Did you or your colleagues even vote for the ANC? Only ANC voters can punish the ANC.
Voters already punished the ANC, what's left now is to see if they repent or not. I hope they grow a backbone and push back at the DA bullying tactics.
I hate Anc the level of unemployment in this country is no longer funny😢
Shem... people are not unemployed because of ANC. Why do you think EFF is against privatisation? Malema is trying to make you see the root-cause but because the obsession is with ANC . . .
Oh please!!..thief malema!!
Look at the success regarding employment in western cape...30 000 jobs of 50 000 created in western cape..
The main answer to all the bickering is to amend section 25 to allow state custodianship of the land without compensation.. Then have a state bank to develop local enterpreneurs and give loans for housing to the missing middle. Establish industries in poeples hometowns to curb logitical nightmares. In England , land belongs to the king who is the head of state.Everyone else living on that land is leased for 99 years. Here the so called investors we shall suffer economic turmoil if land is state owned. What kind of nonsense is that ?
@@victoriousandblessed.You are out of order wena, of course ANC is to be blamed for high rate of unemployed people in this lousy country
@@victoriousandblessed.You are completely CLUELESS if you think things must be state owned hahaha what has happened when things are state owned, NOTHING. What happened to VBS bank that was controlled by Malema, he stole all the clients money, disgusting
This is a fight that will cause more struggle than fixing anything. ANC wants all the power and the DA not giving in.
The rot are still going to draw a salary. DISGUSTING.
Hellen Zille you mean right?
And John
@@DavidLebee-e8t😂😂😂😂
@@luthovellem865😂😂😂😂😂😂
tHEY MUST LET THE DA GO THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY PARTY WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR THEIR BS
The make up is on point ❤ beautiful Mama Nomvula 😂
If it had a voice it would say "look at me, bheka mona ngedwa"
We are talking serious issues, you are worried about beauty. Just listen to the interview and give your view
Is she single?
Bona the lady is on point 💯
@@MotsoK she single?😏
This official speaks so beautifully and expresses herself so well. What an impressive ANC Deputy Secretary General.
This lady is stupid and unintelligent, the ANC is in GNU with each party who join the GNU, including the DA.
I recall that she was involved in corruption as well. Water works are messed up because of her.
She's been in this for a very long time
Currupt this one. She was implicated in state capture.
She’s supposed to be in jail.
I believe DA is trying to ensure accountability and trying their best to have law and order to fix the country. That’s what ANC thinks is outrageous.
The ANC is not going to take notice of anything unless they are in the lead. Theis woman said they will not respond to the demands of the DA. I Think she doesn't understand that the ANC never got the majority election. The DA must stick to their guns.
Nomvula looking good
Yes with fake hair and nails and a ton of make-up otherwise she'll just look like a kasi girl on a Tuesday morning
Luckily the ANC doesn't respect itself 😂
Yeah, joining up with people who intend to oppress you is beyond reproachable.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 but the anc is happy to oppress the people of sa.
@@shirleyolivier2313 the ANC hasn't always embraced DA economic policy and if you look back at 2002-2007 economic policy juxtaposed with the growth of support it should paint a picture of what happened.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 would you rather have MK team up with the ANC? Can't have your cake and eat it too.
Excellent interview Mokonyane. Gogo Zille met her match
The rot are finding their way back into the ANC. Sickening.
izindaba SABC isizulu
ANC will pay a very heavy price because they have chosen to sell out. MK+EFF +ANC is the only combination that will bring economic transformation if politicians put their personal differences behind. They should hold a reconciliation ceremony to forgive each other and move on. People come first . Personal differences , personal wealth etc should be kept aside. After all they have already accumulated enough.
@davidmogari7760 if it was DA with 40% they wouldn't have even thought about including ANC
First time I hear NomV being this frank and straightforward. Also not protecting her own cronies. Indeed the GNU has humbled many people/politicians. Aluta continua✊🏽
They are fighting for their lives. When the Da goes into each position, all the theft and corruption and Anc Self enrichment will be revealed. We wait and see happily.
ANC of Ramaphosa is a sellout. Sick and tired of this nonsense
This lady is intelligent, much better than the ignorant Mbalula!
What's intelligent in her if you may explain
Wena mxm uyabheda nje
She is ONE SIDE ONLY ANC Have you NOTICED the OLD TRICK OF ANC
THE BLAME CARD NOW IT WONT BE ONLY APARTHEID NOW IT WILL BE ALSO DA
MK and Eff made a correct decision to let the other parties try out this coalition/GNU without them
Is hard to work with members of corruption
You serve the people, right? NOT the president. Wake up!
They serve themselves
If it's not about position why do anc hold on tight to those portfolios... Give them to others let's see if it's really not about power
@KlaasKlaasen012 neither does the anc have a monopoly on positions
@KlaasKlaasen012 so that gives them the right to do as they please?
@KlaasKlaasen012 30%er are you?
@KlaasKlaasen012 neither does your skin make you the deciding voice. Your argument about the anc's position in the GNU is flawed. No party would have agreed to join if the terms were clear that the anc remains the decision maker with the rest jumping to their tune. The DA knows what needs to change and that is what they are arguing for
@KlaasKlaasen012 The ANC wants the world to think they are a democratic African country but they want to be a one party state.
This is a woman of wisdom, her answer concerning Gouws ranting was wise.Well done.
Gouws was suspended. BUT Kodwa is back in parliament haha😂😂. The step aside rule was a myth. Anc will continue eating our tax.
so Helen Zille might actually help unite pro-African parties?? Interesting!
Please keep Madam Zille talking. If she's not talking let her type letters.
😂😂hear, hear! I will endeavour to once again regard her sternly, as A rabid DA supporter, and firmly encourage her to keep on keeping on.
Welcome to SA 😂😂😂👋
Her arrogance is waking up the masses and she actually annoys people keep her talking and keep putting a camera on her face 😂
I'm amazed by ANC's humble approach. It is actually exposing DA greatly. What I'm learning in these GNU talks is that each hour is different - its like an amoeba, it's shapeless..
😂 ANC humble, they just desperately trying to hold on to power.
@@shirleyolivier2313 At least they seem read to rule again as opposed to the
DA which is surely not ready and immature to govern even when offered ANC support, expertise and credibility to govern Black majority in particular. Surely DA has no idea on how to govern Black people. Judging from the lived reality of poor people, including poor white people in Brooklyn and Goodwood amongst other areas.
I still hope GNU can work as the DA President seems to approach these talks with a cool head. This was a grand opportunity for DA to redeem itself and win the heart and minds of the majority voters. However, it looks like DA is exposing what is unbearable to South Africans.
@@shirleyolivier2313well said
I would suggest ANC go to opposition
R30 to the $....collapse will happen overnight the big overseas companies are waiting to leave..they dont need south africa and its corrupt unions and BEE ...
So DA, MK and EFF can govern? Imagine Zuma as deputy president alongside Steenhuizen.
@@koalabear9110the MK will never join the DA under no circumstances, never
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Comrade Ramaphosa must be Demoted from the State President's position because he received the position via GNU what goes around comes around ayikhale Madoda....!!
Why you were so rush rush as if you are ready vele vele 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@fanamlawuli6761never say never
Nomvula is a power House of ideology. I like her standing in political issues. She’s a role model for many ☝️🙏
Mama action... makeup is on point 👌💝
tax money
she want to be white
ashamed to be black
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Yes let us not worry about her corruption which robbed the poorest in this country, let's praise her for her makeup. 😂
All I hear here is POWER and CONTROL. Not 1 word about working to build a new non racist country where all can live and Prosper. Thabo Mbeki should rule the GNU!!!!
Exactly and the ANC does not deserve respect
The ANC made a deal they can't or doesn't want to honour with the DA and IFP. This will end bad for Cyril and the country.
I was about to ask about the deals made to get cyril reelected as president, uthi don't they give the DA power to make such demands
The country will thank the ANC for not going through with this thing. As rabid DA supporters we are a scourge, and I know I will dragged up on that by my friend Cachalia, but it is the solemn truth.
@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
Rabit DA supporters are a scourge?
We'll have to wait and see if the country will praise the ANC after 5 years 🤔
IT WILL END BAD FOR THE ANC AND CYRIL.. NOT THE COUNTRY.. THE COUNTRY WILL BE HERE LONG AFTER WE ARE ALL GONE..
Bad for Cyril not country
This is the kind of woman I’d be proud to associate with … what an intellect !, fearless ….powerful ….Enjoyed listening to her …. May God restore South Africa and may God bless our country
If I may ask how many seats does the ANC HAVE AND what is the ANC seats it wants to hold ON
is it ALL THE SEATS WHERE ANC STILL WANTS TO RULE SA ONE HANDED AND NOT SHARE POWER WITH DA AND SMALLER PARTIES
Is the ANC
STILL HOLDING ONTO BLACK POWER ONLY AND ALONE
BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN IT FOR THE LAST THIRTY YEARSS
Sounds ike a spokesperson for ANC. 100% mark for your guest.
ANC should compare SA to CT and be honest who is the better management for SA! Run the country for the people!!!!!
Mama action i love her shem and i trust her intellect
You're right, great intellect indeed in corruption and self-enrichment. 🤣🤣🤣
@@ThembaSimelane-pw2vs she is not charged
@@ThembaSimelane-pw2vswell said
@@MbuleloDyakop-ik7zxshe is not charged yet
Go go Madam.Helen don't back down.
ANC is crazy they still think they have a majority 😂😂😂
Then they will work with mk party
DA doesn't have a majority either
DA thinks highly of themselves undermining other Parties as if it's the two of them ANC AND DA they can go and jump in the Western Cape lake i have lost respect for them they are very selfish 😮
it shows that ANC don't know maths
@@khomotsophokanoka8533 DA is very successful in Western Cape unlike ANc for resat of SA
When you want to help people,you tell them the truth.When you want to help yourself,you tell them what they want to hear. Quotation by Thomas Sowell.
So now is no longer about stepping aside after being charged, now is being rewritten to FOUND GUILTY 😂😂😂😂😂🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭
We have said many times that step aside rule is only used to purge political opponents in the ANC, just like the mythical RENEWAL non-existent song💯🤞
Ya the ANC still want the corrupt cadres to stay in parliament, I love the DA any position that has control of large amounts of money must go to the DA and the deputy can be the ANC. VOILA🎉🎉 NO MORE STEALING AND CROOKED TENDERS 😂
Yes ANC giving me Zanupf vibes
The ANC is talking about self-respect in 2024 🤣 ACTIONSA laughing at the DA.. told you so😂🤣 quality of character. The DA is a now racist but the were not racist when Cyril had to be elected...We really do need new people in charge of this country 🟢
When will this country move away from gutter politics???
When we as dutch settlers realise this is not Europe.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 So the Dutch laws, Roman - Dutch laws, Van Der Linden Institutes Hollandse laws still applicable in South Africa currently, even in the Constitutional Court in interdict to protect, must be scrapped too. Please give it up with blame game and "pedestrian" arguments. Stop blaming and work with what you have. Yo, excuses blaming will continue without intellectual consideration, Vetri EC Komani 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏
@@waltervetri2476 it is not a blame game when your life revolves around it, I understand we benefit from it so you pay it no mind but those who are met with it have it define their lives. We agreed to work together 1994, are the Africans not worse off?
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 So where does the European variable feature.? Is the ANC and other blacks European??? What exactly is your point??
@@waltervetri2476 who has been preventing the ANC from doing its work? We paid the ANC to get it wrong, you know this don't you?
We hamstrung them with an imposed constitution because we had the power and still have it so any failure is attributable to Dutch settlers and our desire to live on a European standard at the expense of Africans. Can that just be overlooked?
Proposional represenation is what the GNU is, 12 posts min for DA. Do what the people voted for.
She truly does seem ready.
I must say the hair and makeup is on point
She's never worked so hard in her life. She has never had to run a positive spin toward the corrupt Anc on her life. She forgets we remember how crap the ANC was and all the business's that have closed down eg Transnet. Thousands have lost their jobs at the mines. It was them eating. Rocks thrown into the boilers of Eskom as the coal was inferior broke eskom no maintenance. We remember ANC. WE WILL NOT REPEAT THAT. WESTERN CAPE HAS THE LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT WE WANT THAT.
Also, can we all remember that we’re in the state we’re in BECAUSE OF THE BLOODY ANC!!!! The nerve these people have……
This is what PA, EFF and Action SA spoke about, DA is the arrogant difficult partner in coalitions. Drop the DA, they going to make governance difficult. DA should drop Helen Zille if they know what is good for them.
I think it is not crazy at all. ANC has been in power for quite long now, and almost all our infrastructure are dysfunctional now
If they know what is good for them 🤓 stay quiet kid and thank god on your bare feet that white people are in africa or that place would look like banana congo 🤣
@ksmathibela4761 as much but not with the DA we just can't not with whites not again we had it n its too much. We haven't forgot about apartheid n the looting....
Go ahead ,see how far it would take you
Drop thinkers like you
DSG is communicating so clearly and effectively! I see the haters just making noise here
When is she picking the economy up?
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1Must she do that alone? Vo you ma karata maan😂😅
@@victoriousandblessed. she said she will just pick things up after she and her ANC commies dropped the country on its head
By the way when is she getting arrested for the corruption
I think the ANC still need more punishment. They need 15% now from 40%. This is woman is so confident😂
We can call this relationship is toxic from the start.
It is like a divorce before a marriage
@@MzamoAdoons372💩💩💩💩💩💩💩💩
But the ANC is not self-respecting
ANC behaving like it has 60% majority 😂😂😂
Beautiful mama-Nomvula and you are clear minded 👌
I'm so in awe of her articulation!
No self respect leaders would be envolved in corruption..
I thank God that they filled the gap and kept the EFF and MK out of government, otherwise our downfall as a nation would've been imminent.
Wholeheartly agree.
ANC has no self-respect or any respect for institutions or the citizens of S.A..
Haha! Does she understand what she said? She said it’s not about proportional representation in the GNU, so then why don’t they distribute the cabinet positions equally between ALL political parties and see if that works out better for them than working with the party that has second most seats in parliament. Smoke and mirrors. The DA has every right to make its demands. It has the upper hand in this situation. Without them the ANC cannot successfully form a government that can fix the country. And it is clearer than ever that if they don’t fix the county (that they broke mostly under Zuma and his cronies) then they may be begging other parties for a seat at the table. The truth is that the only party that has delivered on its promises to an extent is the DA. ANC started off well and then corruption and cronyism destroyed the country. The EFF is insane. MK is made up of the corrupt cronies that broke the country in the first place and no one else has any votes of significance other than the IFP in KZN.
Didn't they sort out all the detail of a GNU cabinet before the election??
It appears like she doesn’t understand that the ANC did not secure a majority of over 50%. Any party forming a coalition with them will naturally seek equal treatment. She seems to believe that parties are merely there to make up the numbers. The reality is every party, including the ANC, wants POWER!!.
This lady is not answering questions
The ANC must recognize that their election victory doesn't grant them absolute power. They need to engage in constructive negotiations with the DA, acknowledging the opposition party's demands and conditions. This requires a willingness to listen, compromise, and find common ground, rather than imposing their will unilaterally.
The DA must pull out of the GNU, the ANC has no honour.
They should actually it can't be most GNU members are complaining about the DA holding us back with their demands. It's not about the DA but the collective, demanding positions shows who really has no honour.
@@kagisomabele4936 read the initial signed agreement before the president was elected, the ANC hasn’t stuck to the signed contract, no honour.
@@thomasgosling5155 I'm not sure about that however honestly I don't care. Why is the DA so obsessed with positions and detacting terms like they won most votes. Actually just like the the ANC the DA regressed it's not like the DA grew in voters. It's not about the DA and their pompous attitudes nor the ANC, let all GNU members participate in a meaningful manner because that's will of the voters not the DA or ANC. Working together is key not identity politics the GNU must be exactly that Unity amongst all members, not a Power trip between the ANC and DA. Ultimately the DA didn't have most votes they can't dictate to the ANC or downplay other GNU members or as if their representation more important, or is it? Let the president announce his cabinet rather it becomes discussed and voted by parliament members. Better an inclusive process rather than an exclusive agreement between the DA and the ANC. The GNU doesn't need bosses it needs all leaders.
ANC played DA big time in this, 😂😂😂😂 i need pop corns to watch this
Is there any deal yet? Probably u r watching another clip
Yes big time, DA rescue ANC not South Africa they didn't see it coming. Section 91 of the constitution the President have the right to appoint ministers and to fire them and DA don't have demands they were played.
@SidumoNgetu , Ramaphosa should be grateful to be relectedc,thanks to DA so they deserve opportunities. Ramaphosa should know that he messed up SA
We would do well to remember that ramaphosa is a kept man. Hold off on the ice cream for now, good fellow.
@@ntsikeleloedwardvena82principal well said
I love ❤mama Mokonyane.she must sweep position with Mbalula.
Looks n brains don't go together sometimes.
@@VictorShongwe-eh3sc Naledi got neither.
My question is, which positions does the ANC and the other 8 parties want. We can't fool ourselves that all these parties went in without any position expectation.
Let them all declare what is it that they want.
The ANC won't do that. They want to keep certain portfolios for parties that will side with them. Listen to garnief Hendricks of Al-Jama-ah who gave their secret away.
Yes ANC practice what you are preaching here
DA is being abused. Having saved Ramaphosa and ANC in KZN they are now being taken for granted.
DA is a small boy
Always that stupid passive aggressive comment
Third time I see you @MBReader410, lol... In all comments you sound like you stand with DA.. askies bro, or sister!... Honestly I think ANC just used the DA.
ANC just violated the DA, period
They're giving passive pre-emptive attacks. Why can't the respect the process and other partners instead of pushing the anc into a corner to do what the DA wants. If need be the ANC must rather from another GNU with other partners without the DA and ensure it has a parliamentar majority without them. It's politics.
Other parties can learn from a proven successful party.
Qubani mama wam siyani support e
STILL representing Sekgosese_Mahembeni 🙌1 ❤.
No one is going home until the ANC is happy.
So there is nothing wrong with the DA, ANC discussions, hoping they can come to a solution for this country. it is so nice as DA is always said to be Alleged Rasist. As other parties as well have made alleged racist remarks
ANC never won ,they had to get 50% + 1 . I am not sure why they are behaving like they won outright . CR should choose people who are qualified from different parties to be ministers .
True, but he can't take orders from the DA. The GNU is not there to serve the interests of the DA. Neither can the ANC be blackmailed by a party that only got 2 out of 10 votes.
Maybe the DA must just leave this GNU thing
@KlaasKlaasen012I am sure you are but that will not be to the benefit of South Africa 🇿🇦
@KlaasKlaasen012 that is your opinion
@KlaasKlaasen012 It is actually funny to read all these comments on different platforms and how people respond The fact is people did vote for political parties of their choice and give them a mandate to rule on their behalf Nothing we say now can change those votes and political parties must sort it out and serve the citizens of South Africa 🇿🇦
No ibimnandi lengoma kucindezelwa amanye ama party,iDA ayihlale ilwele ekufunayo
@KlaasKlaasen012 whatever you say I am a South African citizen and all I want from government is that they look after us and not to the benefit of themselves I don't have a problem with any person, irrespective of skin colour, but we can't threaten others, dominate them or telling them they don't belong in South Africa 🇿🇦
Well wrong selection, less investment, less work, higher prices, more TAX. The president and ANC will not bring in investment, only hardship
Jesu, sisekakeni la!!! This ANC-DA relationship Ke masepa!!! 🙄
Wait for ANC/EFF/MK relationship, then you'll see a complete sewerage. You must be thinking that the MK isn't going to be outlandish in it's demands. I don't even want to talk about the suffering that relationship is going to bring to poor people.
😂😂😂 Nnete fela, maqiniso k'phela 😂😂😂
"This is not a GNU, its a coalition." Tito Mboweni. ANC is still in denial, come over to Lesotho and we shall teach you a thing or two about coalition agreements!
Can upls kick DA out
The fact that the ANC only got 40% doesn’t seem to have sunk in for them yet 😂
Because they did not loose to DA
Remember State Capture.....and now this spokesperson ?
Starting like this? I can nòt forget Judge Zondo's face, and questions......no. NO. And stop talking about racism......its becoming a wobbly crutch for the ANC
You speaks well mama❤. ANC is not afraid of DA.they will deal with them.i like to tell the DA that they have no leadership.they just make a noise.is Better FF+ PS than them
EFF and MK is a government in waiting very patiently, after this DANC move. They are waiting patiently for the miss STEP in this chaotic DANC.
Thank you Mrs Nomvula Mokonyane for clarifying this to us. Viva ANC viva.
To negotiate with the ANC is to negotiate with political thugs. You have not won majority but the behaviour shows you have not learnt anything.
Tell that to the arrogant Hellen Zille
@@MotlokwaThwii Helen Zille is not a thug . Zuma & Melema are thugs
DA is out of order, they act like everyone is desperate to have them on board. The government of coalition can actually proceed without them.
.... but ... P R E R O G A T I V E
@@MotlokwaThwii You mean Khatha-Zille 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He enjoyed this one very much!
This guy was pushing her for a negative answer (his really sickening and pathetic as an anchor) she answered so well and was professional, he used the words “demand” over and over and was clearly biased in his questions to her.. thank God his not in government.. useless interviewer
That's journalism
If you do shady things then any questions for the truth will sound negative. She couldn't give straight answers either. So Zizi was called back even tho he is corrupt for when the ANC needs him to vote for them and guess whose tax is paying for his corrupt vote? No person of integrity wants to be in association with a corrupt person? Bad character corrupts good morals
I love the fact that every ANC leaders are speaking the same language, D A has shown its true colours
People want to rush into something without a proper foundation, this government has to have stability and trust without emotional choices to help progress the country from where it is to where it needs to be. b
How are these parties ONLY discussing terms and conditions after announcing a purpoted GNU and marriage
Something is not make sure. Are they breaking up, divorcing or separating? What are the consequences of such a break up for south africa
When is the business of government starting? Service delivery 😢😢😢😢😢
Beware of the cadres
Helen thinks she's the madam here 😂 I hope she is listening
Ke Misisi
Yeah and when u can't afford to buy food you can eat your words
# no water # no electricity # no jobs # ANC
@@charmainepriestman915 another Karen, 😂 da is not the solution. They against black ptogress
@@WamoAfricaya the last 20 years is Great and we are all employed. Viva Anc
@@WamoAfrica you dont know me or anything abt me my dear - the evidence is there for all to see but keeping deluding yourself .....
It sounds like you are saying the right words , but its to late. You made your mark zuma is ANC. Just give in , you will still get your salary ,but leave the work to the people that really want to make a change.
After 30 years the ANC has proved to be trustworthy, honest and not corrupt. We can believe everything she says. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Self respect 30 years made this lady scores very rich