stephen morris is a humble man because when i listen to his early work with division and pretty well through low life is some of the most intricate and complex drum patterns you're likely to hear.
@@zippymufo9765 Then why doesn't this clown do it? And covering stuff is fine, but writing music in his style is a whole other ballgame. I would have been far more fine with it if they had Gillian come back in the band and had Phil step over to play bass. Phil was an official band member on Siren's Call. He would have been able to step into the role and not piss nearly as many people off. Instead, this clown is here.
I met Stephen & Gillian Morris at a book signing by there photographer . Who they’ve used since the beginning with Warsaw & Joy Division etc . His name escapes me for now ? Maybe Kevin Cummins ?
I've loved New Order since 1988. I'd always thought of them as equal parts of the whole. Without Gillian it was a bit weird. But without Hooky it just feels incomplete. Stephen looks great though. Being a drummer probably helps.
Rather ballsy not to include Peter Hook despite the jackassery between the band and him. He was pivotal in the success of the band. Very sad adults can't move on from old baggage and work things out for the love of music and their fans.
out of common decency hooky should get a mention for his work, the two of them have been twats to each other but barney should at least acknowledge him ffs.
I really don't think we'll get a transformative moment in music again, the internet has ruined that possibility, we've all dispersed into thousands of little sub cultures and nothing penetrates like it used to do when we had about 3 ways of accessing music. There's loads of original music today, too much it frankly and none of it penetrates the mainstream, I just can't imagine a band like Nirvana or similar, revolutionizing the music industry in the same way unfortunately.
Everyday there's more bands and or artists putting out music. It's soooo overwhelming because good music is there but I have to dig in a lotttt more. I like the band Grouplove, The Neighborhood even though they've been around.
yeah I'm not disputing whether there is good music, I listen to a ton of it and I feel bad for certain groups because 25-30 years ago they would've been huge, but they just get lost in the noise now@@audiolego
@@audiolego That's the problem. Digital technology has allowed countless mediocrities to plug up the pipeline with forgettable music/films and made it even harder for the true talents to break out.
@@anrun Nah I know Tony didn't want any of them to speak, though they did let them do the voice for Chorlton from Chorlton and the Wheelies, I think it was Ian that did that
I think Gillian is just an old school, shy Indie chick. She's my favourite in the band Running the show pressing the buttons and turning the knobs. She's the real talent in the band along with Steve
Glad to see 👂 Gillian 👍 Stephen is so funny 🤭 It was Hooky, who decided to quit the band after 2006 tour Just a real shame about his attitude, but so many older fans refuse to see new order without him playing bass
@@mr.kamikaze._xd who told you that,or where did read that Article? 1) Hooky, wanted to make a decision about DJing, playing & touring with The Light 2) It was an interview with Hooky, he said he had enough of it, without the other band members 3) I met Peter Hook in 2010, he was doing a chat with some fans after a book signing He was so happy about being able to do is own creative things, he was really nice bloke, who had been through a lot of hell 4) He was still keen to keep the hacienda & Factory stuff, which he had to use some of his own money in too 5) Read the books by the members, Bernard, can't remember much about anything 6) There is a lot of things that went on that the media will never know about, only fans can make their decision on what they believe is true 7) I expect Hooky, as a little input on the lost sirens material, the way it was dealt with was nothing to do with a democratic band, they had become a Pop band 8) Bernard, had told Stephen Morris, take a cut in wages when Grace, daughter was seriously ill & Gillian, had to leave the band for a few years , for cancer treatment
It's interesting bc if something continúes talking about as a "conversation" and it is not "against" clearly there is a mistake. But people continue talking undirectly untackle points of theirs lives. I'm not in this kind of conversation people continue, i say something clearly something that is definitivly wrong. I say clearly who they are and what they do. Do you all do the same ? Please something is interesting.
Not a promising start, with an older bloke trying to act trendy and the resulting cringe factor. The theme continues with the interviewer, someone who's more than old enough to know he should've ditched the absurd hairstyle and footwear in those far off days of his youth, back in the last century. Still a chance though to provide an illuminating discussion, however the subjects of the chat radiate the vibe of three teachers or social workers attending a low-key retirement gathering, regaling/boring those present with not very interesting anecdotes. You'd never guess that behind this dreary natter there lies some of the best and most innovative music of the 80s. Airbrushing Peter Hook out of the picture also leaves a sour taste. Of course Hook is relevant - those three wouldn't be sitting there if New Order hadn't existed and Hook arguably contributed more to New Order than one or two others in that band - and trying to pretend otherwise is the kind of tactic which belongs in the realm of the politician who introduced this poor excuse for an interview.
@@eboethrasher Sure, people can wear whatever they like - it's their choice. It's just that you see older guys wearing skinny jeans and older women wearing short skirts and it doesn't seem to work for them, which I suppose is why most people reject certain looks, however much it impacts on their individuality.
Unfortunately Andy Burnham isn’t the charismatic spokesperson for Manchester that Tony Wilson was. He’s a bit too square. I take it he’s just glossing over New Order’s avid drug and alcohol use and anti establishment stance.
Stephen should work with other musicians or do more production work. Sticking with Bernard, who can’t sing or perform any longer, is the waste of time for such a talented drummer.
These guys changed my life forever when I was just 13 in 1988... at the same year I discovered my favorite band - Joy Division
Good to see Martin Hannett coming out of seclusion to interview them!
lolololololol
LOLOLOL
"Faster But Slower".
@@mikewilson3581 "Magnificent, yet humble..."
@@mikewilson3581 Martin Hamnet got Stephen to set his drums up outside on the roof of the studio BITD .
stephen morris is a humble man because when i listen to his early work with division and pretty well through low life is some of the most intricate and complex drum patterns you're likely to hear.
his books are a fun read/listen. all of them, break up and all are pieces of such a great moment in music.
He’s very humble and self deprecating but he is a very talented drummer. Certainly the best natural musician in the group.
I loved what Bernard said about educational suppresion.
A great interview with such good questions & answers 👍
Yeah it was great to hear from Gillian, they really got her involved in the conversation.
Great listen and fantastic of Stephen mentioning Macclesfield Town FC. Interesting thoughts and stories from all 3 members 😊😊
Very entertaining to see them so relaxed and talkative.
No Hooky, no party.
No Hooky, is Now Order
No Hook, no problem. Anyone can play his silly two string bass parts.
@@jumofi Hilarious, but his contributions remain influential to modern pop music
@@zippymufo9765 Then why doesn't this clown do it? And covering stuff is fine, but writing music in his style is a whole other ballgame. I would have been far more fine with it if they had Gillian come back in the band and had Phil step over to play bass. Phil was an official band member on Siren's Call. He would have been able to step into the role and not piss nearly as many people off. Instead, this clown is here.
@@zippymufo9765 Simple, but some of the greatest bass lines in the history of pop music
GOOD!!!
I met Stephen & Gillian Morris at a book signing by there photographer . Who they’ve used since the beginning with Warsaw & Joy Division etc . His name escapes me for now ? Maybe Kevin Cummins ?
Maybe Anton Corbijn?
Brilliant 👏
I've loved New Order since 1988. I'd always thought of them as equal parts of the whole. Without Gillian it was a bit weird. But without Hooky it just feels incomplete. Stephen looks great though. Being a drummer probably helps.
Joy Division & New Order - 2 Best Bands Of All Time ✝️
5:35 empty seat for hooky?
Rather ballsy not to include Peter Hook despite the jackassery between the band and him. He was pivotal in the success of the band. Very sad adults can't move on from old baggage and work things out for the love of music and their fans.
out of common decency hooky should get a mention for his work, the two of them have been twats to each other but barney should at least acknowledge him ffs.
I really don't think we'll get a transformative moment in music again, the internet has ruined that possibility, we've all dispersed into thousands of little sub cultures and nothing penetrates like it used to do when we had about 3 ways of accessing music. There's loads of original music today, too much it frankly and none of it penetrates the mainstream, I just can't imagine a band like Nirvana or similar, revolutionizing the music industry in the same way unfortunately.
Don't be daft.
@@lucasoheyze4597 you're clearly not paying attention
Everyday there's more bands and or artists putting out music. It's soooo overwhelming because good music is there but I have to dig in a lotttt more. I like the band Grouplove, The Neighborhood even though they've been around.
yeah I'm not disputing whether there is good music, I listen to a ton of it and I feel bad for certain groups because 25-30 years ago they would've been huge, but they just get lost in the noise now@@audiolego
@@audiolego That's the problem. Digital technology has allowed countless mediocrities to plug up the pipeline with forgettable music/films and made it even harder for the true talents to break out.
Here we see why Tony Wilson preferred that they didn't do interviews
Well, I think Wilson would say let Ian do the talking.
@@anrun Nah I know Tony didn't want any of them to speak, though they did let them do the voice for Chorlton from Chorlton and the Wheelies, I think it was Ian that did that
Not enough Gillian. But it's still a good interview. Stephen is still my fave!
I think Gillian is just an old school, shy Indie chick. She's my favourite in the band Running the show pressing the buttons and turning the knobs. She's the real talent in the band along with Steve
Gillian and Kate Bush were my first celeb crushes. Oh and Sioxsie...😊🖤
@@MrVegasdeuce Same 😁
Ian Curtis and Rob Gretton were Man City supporters! Go City!! Hooky and Bernard are United supporters.
HOOKY FOLLOWS SALFORD RED DEVILS RLFC TOO
Not even a mention of Hooky?
Yeah, where would be be without his 30 second cameo outros?
Why would they mention him, he wasn't relevant to what was asked
Glad to see 👂 Gillian 👍
Stephen is so funny 🤭
It was Hooky, who decided to quit the band after 2006 tour
Just a real shame about his attitude, but so many older fans refuse to see new order without him playing bass
@@empireman1077 Hooky never left New Order. NO broke up in 2007 and when they got back together in 2011, they didn't invite him back
@@mr.kamikaze._xd who told you that,or where did read that Article?
1) Hooky, wanted to make a decision about DJing, playing & touring with The Light
2) It was an interview with Hooky, he said he had enough of it, without the other band members
3) I met Peter Hook in 2010, he was doing a chat with some fans after a book signing
He was so happy about being able to do is own creative things, he was really nice bloke, who had been through a lot of hell
4) He was still keen to keep the hacienda & Factory stuff, which he had to use some of his own money in too
5) Read the books by the members, Bernard, can't remember much about anything
6) There is a lot of things that went on that the media will never know about, only fans can make their decision on what they believe is true
7) I expect Hooky, as a little input on the lost sirens material, the way it was dealt with was nothing to do with a democratic band, they had become a Pop band
8) Bernard, had told Stephen Morris, take a cut in wages when Grace, daughter was seriously ill
& Gillian, had to leave the band for a few years , for cancer treatment
A SCOUSER WHO IS THE MAYOR OF MANCHESTER???? WTF
This bloke must of missed Tubeway Army, Kraftwerk etc....😂
Blue Monday was the culmination of all that pushing it further than they did.
New Order have released one album since Hooky left. Says it all.
While Hooky continues to crank out the originals lol
And it's the best one since Gillian went on leave! Says it all.
@@branes2000 Hell it’s their best one, period!
@@lionturbulence Don't be daft, chuck.
Hook has released no new music since 2007. Says it all.
somebody need to calm Gillian down! gracious of Barney to ignore Hooky. technique was a looooong time ago....
Joy division would be nothing without NewOrder
It's interesting bc if something continúes talking about as a "conversation" and it is not "against" clearly there is a mistake. But people continue talking undirectly untackle points of theirs lives. I'm not in this kind of conversation people continue, i say something clearly something that is definitivly wrong. I say clearly who they are and what they do. Do you all do the same ? Please something is interesting.
The worst guitarist became the best post punk drummer.
No Hooky no NO.
HOOKY FOLLOWS SALFORD RED DEVILS RLFC
Not a promising start, with an older bloke trying to act trendy and the resulting cringe factor. The theme continues with the interviewer, someone who's more than old enough to know he should've ditched the absurd hairstyle and footwear in those far off days of his youth, back in the last century.
Still a chance though to provide an illuminating discussion, however the subjects of the chat radiate the vibe of three teachers or social workers attending a low-key retirement gathering, regaling/boring those present with not very interesting anecdotes. You'd never guess that behind this dreary natter there lies some of the best and most innovative music of the 80s.
Airbrushing Peter Hook out of the picture also leaves a sour taste. Of course Hook is relevant - those three wouldn't be sitting there if New Order hadn't existed and Hook arguably contributed more to New Order than one or two others in that band - and trying to pretend otherwise is the kind of tactic which belongs in the realm of the politician who introduced this poor excuse for an interview.
You're allowed to dress and wear whatever you want until the day you die. Your attitude about it is the cringe factor.
@@eboethrasher Sure, people can wear whatever they like - it's their choice. It's just that you see older guys wearing skinny jeans and older women wearing short skirts and it doesn't seem to work for them, which I suppose is why most people reject certain looks, however much it impacts on their individuality.
Very true. He’s the same interviewer who interviewed Bernard 10 years ago and looked exactly the same asking the same boring safe questions.
*No Hook, no New Order.* 👎🏾
Ah, that's the guys still pretending to be New Order? Quite sad to watch, as New Order were one of the greatest bands ever.
These dudes were into the occult Ian didn't off himself. Yeah Hooky and the band hate each other now
You're out of your head.
Unfortunately Andy Burnham isn’t the charismatic spokesperson for Manchester that Tony Wilson was. He’s a bit too square.
I take it he’s just glossing over New Order’s avid drug and alcohol use and anti establishment stance.
Stephen should work with other musicians or do more production work. Sticking with Bernard, who can’t sing or perform any longer, is the waste of time for such a talented drummer.
They're such boring people it's beyond belief.
How we wish Ian and Peter are here with them now.