$1k Trx vs $1k Axial vs $250 Redcat Gen7 comparison on the rocks
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2017
- Decided to put a Redcat Gen 7 sport with almost NO MODS against my two $1k+ Comp trucks to see if it could hang, yes it can. My friend James Watt, owner of the Barbarian Scaleplex in Lake City Florida was driving mine and Chris Muchata was driving his Gen 7 Sport for this video.
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I crawl at parks during lunch at work with a couple of guys. One has a gen 8, the other a trx4 lrd, and I have my cheap everest 10. We can all pretty much do the same things. I'd rather have either of those over mine because of scale, but the redcat isn't junk. I've had it for like 5 years and never broken one thing. Not one. My 8yo has a vaterra ascender bronco that my friend gave him when he was 5 and they are all about the same. They're just toys, people. Unless you're making money in competitions, just get the one you like the looks of and has parts support and just have fun. especially if you're just getting into it, they will all impress you. This hobby has so much BS involved in it.
I agree
Chiming in after owning an Everest 10 for about 3 years now and recently bought a gen7 for the wifey. The only thing I have replaced on the Everest 10 is a servo horn. First outing with the Gen 7 the front axle knuckle broke off. Second outing the servo horn screw fell out. I have since repaired both and we are happily crawling with our "budget crawlers" I absolutely love Redcat because they gave me an in to this side of the hobby. I will say though entering a hobby like this, if it bites you hard enough you will always want more and its a slippery slope of demising returns...
Just love this video comparing the 2 high $$ to a entry priced but stock well designed truck. Was amazing to watch. Thanks for doing it!
So the Redcat did everything the other two did, and I know you have a lot invested in those.
Pretty impressed!
Dude yeah, the redcats are pretty awesome for their price tag.
Ssme
There’s really no difference.
And with the $750 you saved you could buy a few upgrades to make it even better and still save like $600
Oh there is a difference.
@@Sackmatters What? Thats a blank statement. Something a childish fanboy would say.
@@Sackmatters someone asked you the difference and you've had a year to come up with a difference. By now it's safe to say you can't list any difference.
Well yesterday I ordered a brand new Redcat Gen 7 should be at my house by the middle of next week. I'm a true die hard fan of Redcat. I have to agree that Redcat gets more hate than any other rc but look at the quality you get for the money.
Heck here's a history lesson both Axial and Redcat started out the same year which was 2005. When Axial started out it was a all plastic rig on any of them after 2 years they started having issues as the plastic wore out. So they had to start making better upgrades hence where the aluminum upgrades came into effect. I'm a big fan of both platforms but I love the under dog to. And Redcat is classified as the under dog in most fights.
just starting to get into the hobby and I've been eyeballing these Redcat's. Really feeling like it's gonna be my intro into crawlers. Hard to beat the performance for the money it seems. Great video, thank you!
Nice welcome. Check out the ascent or the ridgerunner if available.
Awesome crawlers .. the redcat is fun and affordable without question.
Can't beat the Redcat for someone just getting into scale crawling. For the money it did great. The true test would be against a few other $250.00 crawlers.
Just bought 1
@@jayboogie401 Me too. I got the Gen 7 pro. So far so good , strong capable but keeps tipping over even at moderate speed. Removed the roof rack and spare tire , made a big difference but still very top heavy. Tipsy.
@@oldwortex5818 buy some front wheel weights
I love my 1/10 scale crawler. I’ve had it a long time so paid around 200 bucks. I was shocked to see 500.00 prices in the year 2023. I would never have paid that. 😢 Thanks for posting this video.
Im certainty no expert but i was impressed with the Redcat. Come on, for under 300$ it did everything the 1K trucks did. Great video!
I did a lift on my gen7 and move the front bumper 3 notched forward for wheel clearance..and soft spring...it's move and climb like a champ.
What kit did you put on there? Link please?
@@sonorangaming4450 when you work on theses things,, there's no kit they sell.. it's just a matter of you doing things yourself, just by shifting things and moving things around to see how you like it,, as for the spring.. I order these blue spring on ebay so they can be softer., I then move the rear axle a few mm forward, doing that required me to order shorter arm links, and cut off some mm from drive shaft,, again it's all about rearranging things and moving things around to your liking that's part of the hobby,, right now I cut off front bumper ends so they can be shorter cause like how it looks.
@@ujayet gotcha. By kit, i meant set, lol. Like set of 4, or 2 sets of 2, etc.
Sonoran Gaming I trimmed my front bumper, flipped the bumper mount and moved it in a hole on the mount for a better approach angle. I’d say no to lifting unless you want to soley mud it and trail ride, it’ll ruin your center of gravity the higher you go.
@@dsdiesel8667 so far, havent had many issues with it. I have been doing the brass upgrades too though.
That gen7 looks awesome. It was sure showing those other rigs. Love the redcats.
If your ever in Jacksonville FL let’s go crawl love your videos man! Definitely informative in your face comparisons
I just picked up a gen7 sport for my 9 year old. It’s our first foray into scale crawlers. I’m so excited my wife is skeptical about my motives. Tomorrow is Christmas!!
You’re going to love it! It’s also very addicting
I think the Gen 7 is definitely up there as far as stock capability, my guess is a little better tires and the steering mod, and it handles like a beast!
Looks like you had some pretty good drivers too. I like Redcat stuff. I have an Everest 10. I'm going to get another Redcat, just not sure which one yet.
All Action Rcs does stuff like this he should bring his rigs over to your course really nice work guys love the trucks
Very impressive GEN 7
Looks more than capable(Redcat) not bad
That Gen 7 is really impressive, not that far behind crawlers four times its price. Main issues I see is it doesn't hold position and the steering angle isn't that good. But, seriously impressive for the price. Might have to get myself one.
Great video, greetings from Brazil!
Thank you very much!
That drivers a bigger badass more than all 3 of them trucks together
I just ordered the redcat gen 7 as my first crawler, and it looks like I made the right choice for the price points.
I just picked up a Gen 7, I was wondering if anyone has tried to put the Axial 2000 Jeep cherokee exterior details ( Grill, headlight assembly etc..) on the Gen 7 to get a more scale look? Cool video
Only thing I've found that I don't like about the gen7 is the permanent locked diffs. I like the idea of being able to adjust my diff fluid to get the effect I want.
Where you located bud? Didnt realize trx4 had 2 tone ford body on it that looks great, we all know bout that sneaky bank opening up,
Southern bc canada
Cheers!
Whaddya think of gen 7 ?
I’m in North Florida and dude the Gen7 is extremely impressive for its cost. I’ve broken a few chubs, installed the pro diff spools and changed to a 32p pinion and spur but the rest is stock, motor/esc/servo is all stock. The best part of it is the chassis, very nice piece.
Very beautiful video.
I am from Germany and have the possibility to buy a Gen 7 Sport for 160 € or Gen 8 for 399 €. Which one should I take?
Super excited I saw this video. I just ordered a red cat. My buddies who are well off into the crawlers gave me crap for it. But I’m more than convinced it’s a capable truck now. Sweet
That truck is as good as your skills are. They can do awesome things.
My dad has 6 crawlers from 550 to 1200, his favorite is the Gen8 I had him buy when he seen mine. Best 299 ever spent, and the gen7 is right there minus the portal axles
i dont own a trx or a redcat so i wont comment on those rigs... but i sure know that the axial can be driven better and perform 10 folds better, the driver made it look like it was struggling a lot.
yeah my axial is still a level above the trx, my buddy was driving my blue axial and the my trx and he is a bit unfamiliar with them and yeah I can tell as well but he still did good.
Yeah you can make any rig bog down and struggle with some throttle tricks. Also he took a little bit different lines with the redcat then the others. I have a trx4 and vaterra ascender and it has ran circles around my brothers redcat.
Yeah same trx4 here. Like the first 90 deg turn trx4 and axial took bad line in a pocket whereas the redcat used the Little Rock to cross with the right front.... like I couldn’t believe the other drivers missed lol. Nothing happened that a stock trx4 or axial wouldn’t do stock for any reason
Sure is nice saving $750.00 bucks! There tires probably are way better a lot more grip I bet if you put them on the gen7 it would go much better..also the steering did you mod it to turn sharper on your gen 7?
Yeah the Gen7 just keeps on surprising me. I’m not sure if Chris did the shave for the steering or not. What’s really bad is I am being conservative on the $1k thing for the Trx and Axial.... LoL
Exocaged RC I changed trans gears to full metal gears and it's running great!!!
I think that the TRX4 must of cut the path for the rest to follow lol..Whats up Steve lol.
The tires are actually not bad, but the foam is terrible. Just using a quality foam (i stuffed some old 2.2 foams i had lying around in there) make quite the difference !
Hi I put goop glue over the hole in my wheels because I go in a lot of water and mud and this stiffens them up a little without adding any foams.
I did get the upgraded pro version. Ended up using 10 oz of aircraft cg weights on the rims for steeper climbs. I have yet to do the shave mod. But after driving for 3-4 weeks I guess it wouldn't hurt the durability of the knuckles if at all. It was great to see it hanging with the high dollar stuff :)
I don't run any weights in any of my wheels, plus our Gen7 class doesn't allow them. I got the sport for the less weight up top. I did the steering mod and that may be the reason for two broken chubs now, I have the CVA's on the way so maybe that will help it live.
Exocaged RC cool deal, and interesting they don't allow weights. How about in the others? I'm assuming no since the Trx flipped also in the other video.
The TRX and Axial are mine, no weights in either of them. We set up the Gen7 class to take advantage of the cheap price to get new guys into the scaler scene and our mods have to be minimal to keep costs at a minimum.
Exocaged RC awesome, that works for me
I wish there was a place like this to crawl in New York... Great business idea guys, indoor rc park in NY???
where at in NY?
That TRX is hella smooth though😳
Till the axe came along
Nice! If they just would have given it a bit more steering angle out of the box it'd be a REALLY capable rig. It's not bad out of the box but definitely needs a couple cheap mods to hang and not lose tires mid crawl :)
I don’t know if any of the local guys here have had a tire come off. Biggest issue I’ve seen so far are crappy stock bearings, horrible brass pinion and crappy steering.
At 4:38 is anybody going to talk about that lizard
That’s what that was
@@connerkoehler4245 yea man
Yeah I own the red cat Everest 10 and I'm buying the average seven to pull it it'll be really cool when done
Only thing the others did better was steer. I called a local hobby shop earlier and lady told me she doesn't carry redcat cause they dont back their product. I just purchased a gen 7 yesterday along with a 5000 battery and portal axles. Price really was the deciding factor. This will be my first since I was 8. I have a crawler in 1:1 so I'm not a noob in that department. Hope to have good luck with it, Redcat for the win.
awsome love the video
I Love my Redcats.
Very nice place to crawl around all three trucks are nice but Ikinda like the axial but the Redcat Everest does pretty good
The axial is my #1 comp truck, then the TRX but that cheap little redcat just finds a way to keep up, pretty amazing in my opinion.
good video
That redcat did pretty darn good for $250, I'd take that anyday.
yes it did and I drive it at almost every comp I go to and it still does well.
That one is 200 the redcat gen 7 pro is 250 and it’s a lot better
Impressive!
Hi Have a new Gen 7 Pro I have had on the shelf for a few months and just tried it out first time. No matter which way you turn it goes only to the left only. It starts to go right then double backs to the left I have tried a new servo to test same thing. Do you thing it could be the receiver or transmitter issue?? Never seen this before. Checked all the usual stuff steering trim ect cant figure it out.
From what you describe yeah it appears to be a transmitter or receiver issue. Get a video clip showing exactly what it’s doing and send it directly to redcat, maybe they can help you out.
Gen 7 is impressive for the price just needs better steering
Have you seen the new Gen8?
@@ExocagedRC just looked it up no good videos on it is it not released for sale yet?
It will be available in December, portal axles, front motor great steering, should be an awesome truck. As soon as I get one I’ll be videoing it. Check redcats site for details and there is a Redcat Gen8 group on FB with more details.
@@ExocagedRC i was about to order the gen 7 i think i will wait for the gen 8 to show it's price, i have a feeling it be over $300
not by much
Love my gen 7
I stripped a few teeth on the spur gear in the first 5 minutes driving my gen 7. Is that normal on these? I haven’t seen any videos on other people having this issue
What tires on that axial? They look like they may do well in my climate. Sandstone, sand, and lava rock.
Those are the Ottsix KLR tires on both the Axial and the Bronco. Axial has silver compound with CI foams and the TRX has gold compounds with voodoo foams.
How can I upload vids of my Redcat gen7? I’ve went custom switch a lot. Want to semi comp test it to see where I’m at, comp wise, but I’ve got time into this $200 vehicle. It should now be about $400 but I don’t add inflation to my custom modifications...
Gen7. Is amazing especially considering the price. In a $1,000 comparison it still leaves you $750 for modification.
It really is a very capable and affordable truck.
great comparison. My Gen7 Pro is no longer a $270 rig. Had a couple of the MST MPA axles that I was saving for another project, but then started wondering. Solved a handful of issues, increased diff height, increased turning radius, less fender rub and I am pretty sure it is a little bit faster yet even better low speed control. You do have to change your shock angle to keep them from being reversed angled. Moved the spare to the rear and changed out Jerry Cans which are also on the rear.
dude that sounds pretty nice, have you posted pics on FB of it?
got a vid from two weeks ago its in there at the 4:18 mark. Went out this last Sunday but haven't put the vid up yet.
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Well ok!😉👍
Need some advice I have the redcat gen 7 and when I crawl the truck wants to flip over. What can I do to fix this. By the way awesome track. Love the video.
i have a similar issue, is it a sport or pro, i have the pro, while the top gear/roll cage looks cool it adds quite abit of weight, i myself am thinking of removing it and looking for a new body
@@michaelpaciorek4068 I have the sport. May change out body's myself.
Lower your body mounts and soften up your springs I love my gen 7
i might buy one now!
Which one?
the red cat
Where is this park at in jacksonville and is it public I would love to come crawl there
Good comparison I could have saves a little money versus the TRX...
Bloody awesome! Im a kraton basher etc but looking to get into the hobby of crawling and I want the best , can you lead me in the right direction?
OZ-EE DOM-RC if you’re an arrma guy you won’t like my answer. The Traxxas TRX 4 is one of if not the toughest scaler on the market and it’s extremely capable. Take a look at other crawler videos and build series on my channel, I just finished up 2 trx builds.
@@ExocagedRC I will check them outright now, yes I love Arrma cars but I don't think they do crawlers anyway. I love the look of the trx.
Question... do they use brushed motors In the crawlers because they need to run cooler in the because of the slow paced high load that the cars operate at?
@@dominic9279 they come with brushed, once you see my builds you'll see all my high end trucks are brushless. I really like the new Hobbywing AXE 550 size motors and esc.
@@dominic9279 while you're on my channel, the banner pic at the top has a facebook link in the lower right corner, join the facebook group if you want.
🦎 @ 4:33
I think I’ll get 3 redcats for me and the boys mount some fpv cams on em have some fun in the yard
All great trucks just love traxxas if u have the money go traxxas.. If u dont go redcat simple redcat is good too
I bought a gen 7 and im looking for a new body shell any ideas also 4:33 theres a lizard on concrete hump
At first, nice Avatar! :D its a standard wheelbase...you can fit any proline crawler body on. I have two body styles for mine, one being the jeep comanche pickup and one the chevy c-10 front with the proline back-cage. Looks like an retro Honcho style ^^
the gen seven did struggle more and had to reverse more than the trx and axial.
Yeah it did due to the very limited steering, but it completed most every line. Missed one on a dirt hill.
I just ordered one bang for buck this first time into crawling. One day I'll get mine so upgraded it will be a 500 dollar car lol ✌️✌️
Everest 10 is almost unstoppable.
The gen7 has the smaller wheels right of the 3 right? The others looked like 2.2
All 4.75” tall tires. One was stretched onto 2.2 wheels. .
@@ExocagedRC oh nice! im getting my gen 7 pro in on Sat. cant wait to try it, and RC out
Nice
Why did you put Mamba X on a Crawler?
because its the best crawler esc on the market
Never had a rock / trail truck . Just ordered them redcat gen7 pro . Better than paying $450
Good truck but why not get the newest Gen8?
I just like the 7 . I’ll end up with 8 in a few months so nephews can run one also
@@lloyderc when you do, watch my videos on that one too, I have a bunch, one of them is a free mod to help the steering out.
It's more about wheel placement and throttle control , I love my Gen 7 sport , still running a year later with stock plastic lockers and transmission gears , nothing has broken , I feel like I wasted my money on the metal gears & lockers , I love my Gen 7 sport 👍😎
Where did you get your interior for your trx4? I've been searching online but all I can find is cheap ugly plastic things
this is what I used rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FPro-Line-3337-00-PL-C-Clear-Interior-for-Most-1-10-Crawler-Body%2F381615944832%3Fepid%3D1701389256%26_trkparms%3Dispr%253D1%26hash%3Ditem58da153480%3Ag%3AOLoAAOSw3v5XI2rj%26enc%3DAQADAAAB4KX%252FKt4E1xf3SDqEdBclaYbxx84SdLbJtETFVFoz8mN8MpwEIXEwonVNbteCa0TIVPsKP3nnD3tR8LRudZ4kefHW1T2PRawYpFweCeK7wWXoicMD26i2WmsbBa1FhboT4OCGuvUW8d0VH6kcbuAEdT4yl2tw4%252F3QtgCBnepeXUiQ4uDM97pEz8NpRhJJK5R%252FzOnesWu%252FyWFF4WAvxaMiWclRA9%252F3gEdV1%252BUheU3dkS5ZyM6cPrvFXIQKwAwtUz%252Bg3CgU6Vp03wa5UW35vRtXmmympEKm%252BYOfDRK2e9aN23UATdJswHlq5dBPn8XNLC9yjwKX2BgUZl%252B3J8ix%252By6p9oihB7TEdJXRIGocxf7B5ghC1NLSuCR9lGGVPkxP4VDzGUzYv%252FJA7ygMXtUtjv2ID%252F7jmzDi%252FU91FVPUrO1WQitOa4EcK59peH%252FOLkw563Q1X0zIVEku73qboA%252BvIZAtc5hPu462fFdBKfl5%252FgI3debpSW8x7iinoDdqWG8yu%252Bkh8cmkX%252BgEBVZsi965J6pxk2S%252BCyZ1sEU3gDeYz81xZ8%252Fg3%252FWwTggIFqCc%252FMHzsVBlfwBFk2qoCrgtdlECMAlFIZLJD9mv5TTlWni3QwLM8lhIdsDauJf9iFI0gzvU2zZqIA%253D%253D%26checksum%3D381615944832c78bd4df88494fcd96099dda08f35657&campid=5338273090&toolid=20008
is it just me or does anyone else think the results arent accurate because you can definitely see the difference in the drivers skills
The turning circle on the gen7 isn’t a good as what I’d thought it’d be other than that it’s a great truck
Yep but wait till the Gen8, going to be awesome
I would love to take a kids power wheel and turn it into a bonified trail hawk.
That would be a lot of beef. I made a mower out of the gearboxes. Have you seen that?
It’s like everything in real life’s you got for what you pay for and it’s sure it can’t be exactly the same if one is 500$ an$ the others is 300$ but for 200$ less it’s quite impressive so maybe it’s not perfect but for the prices........not bad at all 👍👍👍👍
the good ole Gen7 has impressed me so many times with how well it runs and I can't wait to get the Gen8
I don’t know if someone already answered but how do I get more steering radius for my gen 7 pro?
Trim the steering stops away on the knuckles and it turns a lot tighter.
Exocaged RC I ask cause I am really considering the gen 7. Should I get the sport or pro?
If you plan to comp, get the sport and build it just a little. If you want a nicer looking truck with a few nicer features like metal spools instead of plastic and CVD axles instead of dogbones, get the pro
Exocaged RC what upgrades do you suggest I should do immediately?
32p spur and pinion gear. Kimbrough makes one that fits perfectly. I think it’s part #129. 54t. As far as pinion gear goes, 11-12t gets you back to stock speeds. Thats it because the trucks are nice. After a while get a set of the steel trans gears and you’re done with that part.
I dont know about the axial,,,, but,,, where did you pay $1kfor a trx,,, I paid 240,, and I have a gen 7 in the mail for 250
Sorry,, 440 for the trx benz
Steering seems to be the only downside to the Redcat
RGT is coming up
412 VW what is RGT?
did you guys saw that little lizard ? and awsome vid too .. was looking into geting the RedCat .. and i think im convinced now eheheh
WHAT in the WORLD did you spend another $550 on with your TRX-4?
Way too much.
TRX4 $450
Mamba X/3800kv $220
Hitec 7954sh servo $80
Castle BEC $21
Mfr rear portal covers $40
MFR Chubs $50
Hot racing diff covers $78
Yeah racing brass knuckles $63
GPM portal covers $43
Wheels $54
KLR tires $52
Ottsix foams $28
Servo winch $40
Stainless lower links $20
Sliders $35
Bronco body $45
1060 esc $22
Hot racing towers $30
Hot racing rear portal backs $23
Rear portal hubs mount $24
Not counting the radio and a few scale accessories.
What is with the screeching
The MX Guru esc PWM the Mamba X sounds bad compared to the newer stuff
The TRX looks way nicer that the other two to me. The red at can do what the others can but it looks horrible doing it, to me this whole class is about climbing ability while still looking raalistic. That's where the trx (and axile) really shine.
It really seemed like you tried to make the redcat look weak. Either that or your choice of lines were off because a cat is very capable of all that you just did
Considering neither one of those rigs has 1000 in them and at the time of this video trx was 400 axial was around 350 I’ve built custom crawlers for over 10 yrs now and I see nothing but a small bit of brass and maybe wheels and tires 😂 1000 my ass
A operative gen 7 for $250? Really. Carbon fiber doesn't make anything crawl better,just something to waste money on.
All three built in China, so now it comes down to the Money..... 8^)
Axial $329
Traxxas $449
Redcat $199
It's a No Brainer........ 8^))
You’re forgetting the trx and axial have a LOT of mods so with that in mind the decision is even easier. Redcat wins!
So I suppose you don't get 4 times the performance for 4 times the money!
LoL well I can’t argue with you on that one.
Im not that deep into crawler stuff, but for me, the Redcat looks more like a Toy.
Einaar Gednochsonn not toy grade but they are simple trucks
$1000 still doesn't make you a better driver lol
Wheres the 1k trucks? all cosmetics? Lame