How strong is 3D printed metal? SLM (stainless steel) vs FDM (ABS) by JLCPCB 3D printing services

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  • Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
  • In this video I want to find out how strong is SLM 3D printed metal (316L stainless steel) and I will compare it with FDM printed ABS. SLM printers are expensive, that's why it is good to have affordable source for 3D printing services. JLCPCB primary services is PCB manufacturing, but they also have 3D printing services.
    jlcpcb.com/3d-printing/CYY
    Results in Excel download from: www.mytechfun.com/video/212
    Mentioned in the video:
    SLA vs MJF: • SLA (9000R) vs MJF (PA...
    Steel density: kg-m3.com/material/steel
    Shortie, 3D printed twist drill (plastic): • Educational project: 3...
    Contents:
    0:00 Introduction
    1:00 Ordering process
    2:00 Unboxing
    2:18 ABS parts
    4:20 Metallic parts
    9:05 Steel density check
    9:52 ABS tensile test
    10:31 ABS layer adhesion test
    10:53 Steel tensile test
    11:40 IZOD impact test
    15:01 Drilling, tapping
    15:52 Bending test
    17:22 Torque test
    19:46 Creep test
    22:23 Twist drill test
    24:28 Results
    27:04 Conclusions
    #3dprintedmetal #slm3dprinting #jlcpcb #3dprintingmetal #3dprintingservice #abs3dprinting
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  • @AwesomeBrixx
    @AwesomeBrixx Рік тому +48

    I always love watching your videos. I believe this is my first time commenting, but I've watched many of your videos. You put so much effort and production value into these videos without getting many views. I can really appreciate someone doing that. I also really enjoy and appreciate how analytical you are with your tests and how thorough you are. Keep up the great videos!

  • @ashiha13
    @ashiha13 Рік тому +19

    I love how diligent you are with your tests. Thank you!

  • @makarlock
    @makarlock Рік тому +7

    I love the homemade material characterization lab! Thanks for documenting your results with this vendor!

  • @Spectt84
    @Spectt84 Рік тому +6

    Thanks for all the work you put into your tests!
    3d printed metal looks amazing, I can't wait for technology to develop to a point where we can have these metal printers cheaply in our homes

  • @christopherrumford
    @christopherrumford Рік тому +7

    A truly great video indeed, that 3d printed drill bit really impressed making me appreciate the possibilities of metal 3d printing.

  • @madude91
    @madude91 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful work! Thanks for taking the time to educate us :)

  • @cadneemountai2791
    @cadneemountai2791 Рік тому +9

    This looks like printed metal may be useful for instead of castings you can do this and put all the finished or critical dimensions with a mill or lathe! Very cool!

  • @tiberiulaurian7408
    @tiberiulaurian7408 Рік тому +2

    Igor, thanks for your nice videos. Appreciate how thorough are your tests. Keep up the good work!

  • @colinfielder6695
    @colinfielder6695 Рік тому +2

    I loved seeing the metal 3d prints! That drill bit was amazing

  • @jeffsabel9363
    @jeffsabel9363 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for this video. I've wondered about the strength of printed metal and the possibility of machining it. Very thorough video as always. Have a good day.

  • @scottlewis3506
    @scottlewis3506 Рік тому +1

    Great video. It is extremely impressive how far we have come with 3d printed metal.

  • @ExMachinaEngineering
    @ExMachinaEngineering Рік тому +1

    Excellent video. And very thorough analysis. Kudos

  • @d.jeffdionne
    @d.jeffdionne Рік тому +6

    Excellent, thank you for collecting the data. I'd love to see them offer SLM in Aluminum, especially... ease of machining after printing is important, my/most small tabletop precision lathe and milling machines struggle with stainless steels.

  • @uther10
    @uther10 Рік тому

    Great video and great experiments! Thanks for sharing the tests!

  • @sreal-iron5898
    @sreal-iron5898 Рік тому +1

    subscribed on the first video i have seen from you , which was this one.
    these videos are very valuable ! thank you for your hard work and nice presenting !

  • @lorenzobruschetta9919
    @lorenzobruschetta9919 Рік тому +2

    That’s a really valuable video, greetings and thank you for your time

  • @stefanguiton
    @stefanguiton Рік тому +1

    Great videos as always!

  • @1Esteband
    @1Esteband Рік тому +1

    Great video as always!

  • @_Piers_
    @_Piers_ Рік тому +2

    Excellent stuff :)

  • @JLC3DP
    @JLC3DP Рік тому +2

    Thanks a lot for your efforts to help to test those materials, really helpful~

    • @Fpvfixit
      @Fpvfixit Рік тому

      Sponsor him

    • @JLC3DP
      @JLC3DP Рік тому

      @@Fpvfixit 😆Definitly no problem~

  • @gerson3035
    @gerson3035 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations for appearing in Maker Update on the Digi-key channel, we hope that more people know the excellent content that you upload to this channel

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much for informing me!

  • @suvijakengr3374
    @suvijakengr3374 Рік тому +1

    Support comment from Thailand. Your VDO is great information and useful.

  • @avejst
    @avejst Рік тому +3

    Impressive Steel
    Great test
    Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us :-)

  • @playmaka2007
    @playmaka2007 Рік тому +1

    Great video! would love to see tests done on Virtual Foundry metal filaments for FDM printers!

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti Рік тому +4

    The truth is that the stainless steel part is not sintered but actually melted - the laser MELTS the metal particles. "Sintering" is not just misleading, it is wrong.

  • @GBCobber
    @GBCobber Рік тому +5

    I had the same problem with a PETG fan duct deforming at the nozzle like yours. So I made another one and coated that last bottom inch or so with epoxy, inside and out .That solved it. Before it was worse than yours since my ducts are quite thin. It's been a couple of years now with the epoxy it's still pristine.

    • @mycinemax2653
      @mycinemax2653 Рік тому

      what kind of epoxy?, can you share?

    • @GBCobber
      @GBCobber Рік тому +1

      @@mycinemax2653 Just a regular two part epoxy like UHU or Araldite. I just used a cheap dollar store brand and just pantied a little on, letting the excess drip off a corner where it won't interrupt the airflow.

    • @mycinemax2653
      @mycinemax2653 Рік тому

      @@GBCobber thank you..

  •  Рік тому +2

    Awesome video.

  • @hertz1984
    @hertz1984 Рік тому +3

    Great video. now I'd be curious to see a comparison of SLM and FDM metal parts.

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому +4

      Yes, that would be interesting, but that filament is extremely expensive (that needs sintering)

  • @rinokentie8653
    @rinokentie8653 Рік тому +2

    Very interesting!

  • @andrewwatts1997
    @andrewwatts1997 10 місяців тому

    This is amazing !
    We could now design custum width drills with built in threading and champhering ! ( for any materials sufficiently softer than stainless steel ) I will deffinatly be using this service to help me with my prototypes.

  • @mrnlce7939
    @mrnlce7939 Рік тому +2

    Might be interesting to see it the 3D printed metal could be sharpened and how much it would cost to make a custom knife.
    Great video. Keep up the good work.

    • @valian8985
      @valian8985 Рік тому +1

      The types of steel used could be a problem....

  • @tinchodias
    @tinchodias Рік тому +1

    More tests about accuracy of the metal parts, would be interesting.

  • @medyk3D
    @medyk3D Рік тому +2

    And now I need to buy a SLM printer...

  • @inmyimage1081
    @inmyimage1081 Рік тому +5

    Good video, wish they had printed the steel test parts vertically and surprised that a professional printing service did such a bad job matching the specific dimensions. One thing that would be useful is if you could maintain a master test results file that combines the results of all your tests. Always like your testing methodology given the limitations of a small budget. Something that could be interesting and are relatively cheap in the US is a small hydraulic press for vertical compressive test.

  • @ezengondolkozom3700
    @ezengondolkozom3700 Рік тому

    Great video and very nicely documented! are you Hungarian by the way?

  • @romain50b
    @romain50b Рік тому +1

    Super interesting

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 Рік тому

    The years you spent as a student at the technical school paid off: We now know metal is stronger than plastic.

  • @qwertyqwerty9587
    @qwertyqwerty9587 4 місяці тому +1

    This is awesome, big fan of your work.
    Also hope you do aluminum or titanium one day

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  4 місяці тому +1

      Something like this? ua-cam.com/video/Gkim2NgnAVA/v-deo.html

    • @qwertyqwerty9587
      @qwertyqwerty9587 4 місяці тому

      @@MyTechFun 😂 just like that thanks

  • @noway8233
    @noway8233 Рік тому

    Nice work , very strong steel , a yes sls machines are super expensive , but they ate amazing , some proces after printing do some kind of anhiling or cocking the printed steel (i dont known what machine and proceses they use).

  • @ronbaer67
    @ronbaer67 Рік тому +1

    better test would be to test ultrafuse 316l FDM vs FDM ABS, Nylons or PC

  • @TheWoodWorkingPilot
    @TheWoodWorkingPilot Рік тому +1

    very cool. thanks for these tests.
    Did you sharpen the stainless steel drill before drilling with it or you used it as it arrived from JLCPCB with zero post processing?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому +1

      For wood zero post processing but I noticed a lot of heat. Then I just touched the back surfaces to grinder stone and then drill ali like a real tool

  • @user-ps1qj5mo2s
    @user-ps1qj5mo2s 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the details shared, though I already get my 3D order from JLC 😂😂😂
    overall good quality and timing

  • @macmos1
    @macmos1 Рік тому +1

    good vid

  • @vsigal
    @vsigal Рік тому +3

    Could you test as well about welding ability ?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      No, sorry, I don't have a welding machine (yet) :-(

  • @NemecJiri
    @NemecJiri Рік тому +1

    Hi Igor, I really enjoy your videos. There are very fast printers like Bambu Lab X1 and FLSUN V400 on the market, would it be possible to test how much fast printing affects print strength? I think the hotend and the cooling method would have a big influence on the strength, I wonder if for example the volcano/volcano cht has more durable prints in high speeds than the v6 or creality hotend.

    • @valian8985
      @valian8985 Рік тому

      You are right, diferent hotend give diferent strenght depending of speed, but its more a matter of flow (mm3 /s)
      E3d v6 will have a maximum flow of 10mm3,
      Volcano will be closer of 20 /25 mm3
      Exeeding these flow rates will tend to give weaker prints because the plastic is improperly melted.

  • @Gengh13
    @Gengh13 11 місяців тому

    Drilling aluminum with a metal 3D printed drill bit is amazing.

  • @Andy-js5jy
    @Andy-js5jy Рік тому +1

    I love your video and you're amazing 👏
    And steel 3d printer is interesting and I don't know type of 3d printer making impossible things 🤔

  • @gabor-smith
    @gabor-smith Рік тому +1

    Grettings from Bečej

  • @ianirwin1237
    @ianirwin1237 Рік тому +1

    Good Morning Doctor Igor,
    Thank you for your teachings!
    I am curious.. Would you consider testing your 3D Printed (FDM) PLA, PLA+, or PLA advanced against the SLA metal?
    I ask because I am curious that the values of mechanical strength will be much closer in value compared to ABS as ABS is consistently weaker than your PLA testings.
    As such I think PLA/PLA + would be a better match up.
    Lastly, my friend how do I view the live updated excel spreadsheet of all filaments/substrates which have been tested?
    Thank you

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      I already did some similar tests, search on the channel a little bit. Or you can do it on my website: www.mytechfun.com/videos/3dprint

  • @TommiHonkonen
    @TommiHonkonen Рік тому +1

    You didn't specify the printing orientation? It it actually makes a difference as it would for your testing you need to specify it of course. Other than that they use software to make most out of the print volume. The model orientation doesn't make any difference in cad.

  • @martinTintin476
    @martinTintin476 Рік тому +1

    sls why not?. metal can fix better then plastic and when drill made from good material without coating, you can run it. why not drilling

  • @user-eg9dh6xt3r
    @user-eg9dh6xt3r Рік тому

    ありがとうございます❤

  • @douglas2lilian
    @douglas2lilian Рік тому +1

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @lucascord11
    @lucascord11 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Do you recommend JLCPCB? I’m always aware to buy things in China 😬

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  9 місяців тому +1

      Since this video I ordered few things from them, when I need something stronger than 3D printed part on my printers.. They have a great price and also they have CNC services now (there will be a new video about CNC)

  • @danielwilczak7833
    @danielwilczak7833 Рік тому +1

    Can you release your drill STL file? I went on JLCPCB and the cost for parts were pretty expensive. Greater then $100. I would just like to see if the price has been drastically raised since your video.

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      That would be a big difference, when I tested it, it was $18. You can download it from this page: www.mytechfun.com/video/212

    • @danielwilczak7833
      @danielwilczak7833 Рік тому +2

      @@MyTechFun It's $18.28. I guess the price is mostly based on volume and if it needs support. My part did not seem much bigger but price must be exponential with volume/support.

  • @khucngantieu
    @khucngantieu Рік тому +1

    I have a widget I need to 3d print in stainless steel. How do I go about it? I don't have the files to upload so I can't get anyone to print for me...

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      Login to their site, upload the file and you will see the estimated price. You can decide if you want to order it or not.

  • @saumyacow4435
    @saumyacow4435 Рік тому +2

    Who did the metal printing for this and what process is it exactly?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      JLCPCB 3D printing services. Laser melts metal powder layer by layer.

    • @saumyacow4435
      @saumyacow4435 Рік тому

      @@MyTechFun Ok, but I went looking at their site and all I could find was plastic 3d printing.. Is there a link for their metal printing service?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      @@saumyacow4435 It is in the video, screen recorded from 1:00

    • @saumyacow4435
      @saumyacow4435 Рік тому

      @@MyTechFun Ok, found it, thanks :)

  • @lolaa2200
    @lolaa2200 Рік тому +1

    Wow dimensions of ABS part are totally off. For me that's a huge no no. That mean they can only print figurines but not mechanical part. I would never use their service after seeing that.

  • @oshio9129
    @oshio9129 Рік тому +1

    +1 Subscriber

  • @johnwick7175
    @johnwick7175 Місяць тому

    Is it possible to print the threads into the part?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Місяць тому

      Yes, but they are not accurate and smooth enough. I like to just ask for holes, then cut threads (only it is hard to cut in stainless steel)

  • @synooptic5475
    @synooptic5475 8 місяців тому

    Can we make gun parts?

  • @mycinemax2653
    @mycinemax2653 Рік тому +1

    how much for printing that satsana shroud, I want them haha..

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      You can upload the file and see the estimate cost. But if you are able to print ABS, do it yourself, it is much cheaper.

  • @deucedeuce1572
    @deucedeuce1572 Рік тому

    8:17 ... The threads backwards on that 3D printed bolt?

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому +1

      As mentioned in video, there are two threads, like here: ua-cam.com/video/6aucvcCdOv0/v-deo.html

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 Рік тому

      @@MyTechFun I heard there were 2 threads, but by looking at it, the threads are going in the opposite direction as normal threads. They "tighten" counter clockwise instead of clockwise.

    • @MyTechFun
      @MyTechFun  Рік тому

      @@deucedeuce1572 Yes, that's the trick, the other is smaller (smaller pitch) so it is not easily visible.

    • @deucedeuce1572
      @deucedeuce1572 Рік тому

      @@MyTechFun I see. thanks.

  • @jmp7624
    @jmp7624 Рік тому

    The metal looks casted and not printed, but I havnet seen a metal 3D printer in use

  • @mikeb1596
    @mikeb1596 Рік тому +1

    NylonX and PC > ABS

  • @polycrystallinecandy
    @polycrystallinecandy Рік тому

    Now normalize all the values by price 😅

  • @uiopuiop3472
    @uiopuiop3472 Рік тому

    i dislike the trumpf slm printers. they rem8ind me of something. instead someone..