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КОМЕНТАРІ • 231

  • @BeatsByRaphs
    @BeatsByRaphs 7 днів тому +25

    24:27 Aaron Ramsey was way more technical than Martin Odegaard

    • @el_Gee
      @el_Gee 7 днів тому +6

      Ramsey was also clutch

    • @akshaychavan9884
      @akshaychavan9884 7 днів тому

      Who?

    • @SunsetNova
      @SunsetNova 7 днів тому +3

      @@akshaychavan9884Aaron Ramsey was way better than Odegard

    • @craigpacker4208
      @craigpacker4208 7 днів тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @akshaychavan9884
      @akshaychavan9884 7 днів тому +8

      @@SunsetNova He had great potential but due to injuries we never watched his best version consistently....and yes he was better than Odegard.

  • @thekidd7
    @thekidd7 7 днів тому +26

    The idea Odegard is anywhere near Paul Merson is actually insulting. He’s not a number 10 by any stretch of the imagination

    • @arsenalfc8137
      @arsenalfc8137 7 днів тому

      He’s an 8 but arteta don’t want play him there.

    • @TJTOPBOY
      @TJTOPBOY 7 днів тому +1

      @@arsenalfc8137he basically does play 8/10 he just isn’t good enough in either.

    • @arsenalfc8137
      @arsenalfc8137 7 днів тому +1

      @@TJTOPBOY he is average don’t get me wrong he’s a back up number 10 not a starter.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      Rose-tinted glasses. Merson was very good, but he was also quite inconsistent and erratic at Arsenal. He was probably a better player at Villa.

    • @mikeadams7904
      @mikeadams7904 7 днів тому +2

      ​@kevinb9830 no chance!! We had the best of him. He was great

  • @christophernoble3581
    @christophernoble3581 7 днів тому +18

    He had a chance to get Izak 3 years ago but Eddie was the answer apparently 😢

  • @Michael-bp7zm
    @Michael-bp7zm 6 днів тому +2

    Glad to see you working with Lee and Curtis.
    You 3 are the only ones that keep it real.
    500+ games under my belt.
    EIE

  • @arsenalfc8137
    @arsenalfc8137 7 днів тому +5

    Arteta didn’t mind giving Eddie the number 14 and 100ka week but he don’t want a proper striker

  • @kay-arr2504
    @kay-arr2504 7 днів тому +13

    Not sure why Arsenal paid £65ms for havertz and think they gonna get Watkins for £60m.
    They must just be laughing at Arsenal fans now surely

    • @krzysztofsenko8340
      @krzysztofsenko8340 7 днів тому +1

      Watkins is not worth that £60M are you having a laugh ?

    • @kay-arr2504
      @kay-arr2504 7 днів тому +6

      @ but havertz is worth 65? lol

    • @Contextualiser16-tn8nd
      @Contextualiser16-tn8nd 7 днів тому +1

      He's not, but neither was Havertz who you spent 5m more on

    • @dk21-c6w
      @dk21-c6w 7 днів тому +2

      @@kay-arr2504 yea watkins is more like 75 million

    • @Markyy____
      @Markyy____ 7 днів тому +1

      @@dk21-c6wthis late in the window probably 80 to 85… should have been on it as soon as the window opened

  • @erlandaas8415
    @erlandaas8415 6 днів тому

    as a Norwegian i rate Ødegård and saying no one here rate him is like saying no one in England rate Saka

  • @dchampionpraisekeyz8341
    @dchampionpraisekeyz8341 7 днів тому +1

    This Odegard discussion makes sense to me now why Arteta never played Ethan in that role when Odegard was injured because we all would have seen how good and better Ethan would have made us look especially in transition but it's disturbing why Arteta wouldn't want that🤔, probably because Odegard is his favorite.

  • @HerkulesNorsk
    @HerkulesNorsk 7 днів тому +1

    18:28 Yes we do, at least we who actually watch him play and not just the highlighst, they prefer Haaland. Was the same in the 90s with Solskjær, got all the hype, but was never near the best player.

  • @Too_many_chiefs
    @Too_many_chiefs 4 дні тому

    Great show lads, fair and honest opinions as always 👏🏼👊🏼

  • @dchampionpraisekeyz8341
    @dchampionpraisekeyz8341 7 днів тому +1

    Watkins is an Arsenal fan that's why I wouldn't look too much into his misses against us

    • @JasonMyles-w3y
      @JasonMyles-w3y 7 днів тому

      Well he didn't miss last season when ended the bottlers chance to win their 1st major trophy in 20 years
      Heung Min Son did though Oh how we laughed xx

  • @BobDrayan
    @BobDrayan 7 днів тому +4

    It is all PR so that it makes the fans happy that we bid, kroenke out

  • @terranceparris4169
    @terranceparris4169 7 днів тому +5

    There no interest in watkins the club is 1:48 making attempt to say arsenal have tried to buy a striker

  • @boshankers12
    @boshankers12 7 днів тому +2

    The worst thing about Lee is that he talks about the goings on in the board room like he was actually there when it took place. Simon Jordan does the same thing.

    • @SunsetNova
      @SunsetNova 7 днів тому +10

      Lee has been correct about Arsenal and the deception going on in this club since Arsene left

    • @craigpacker4208
      @craigpacker4208 7 днів тому +1

      He’s just a clown honestly he’s a joker

    • @boshankers12
      @boshankers12 7 днів тому

      @@craigpacker4208 he really seems to revel in anything bad that happens to his own club

    • @marcwillard
      @marcwillard 7 днів тому

      This is the thing. The club is a business. It treats its fans as customers….
      You may not like the tone, lee speaks in but can’t deny his passion and love for the club. What is wrong about wanting better (winning).
      My point is… Corporations do not have faces or feelings, they adhere to profits. Emotion is probably the only thing that makes us buy into anything, how we feel…. and this no conspiracy or news but companies do manipulate this make more money.
      You may not like it but Arsenal will start to resemble Tottenham, one of the richest clubs in the world with the nicest fanbase in the world… and they’re nice because they allow the board and the club not to win anything in about 15 years. Yet they can still charge the highest ticket prices in the world.

    • @JogaBonitoCFTV
      @JogaBonitoCFTV 7 днів тому

      ​@@craigpacker4208thanks for watching 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jl8485
    @jl8485 7 днів тому +2

    More than anything(not really but) I need to see Lee Gunner and Martin the Aussie Gunner in same stream to see the Biblical dressing down Lee gives Martin.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому +1

      Ah yes, the internet thrives on negativity.

    • @jl8485
      @jl8485 5 днів тому

      @@kevinb9830 The Truth is the Truth no matter how much you wanna dress it up or flat out deny it.

  • @philippeh3904
    @philippeh3904 7 днів тому

    No way Villa let Watkins go with like 4 days left of the window. Especially after losing Duran

  • @adampettit8119
    @adampettit8119 6 днів тому

    Oh so if gunner says he's rubbish then that's the truth...
    What a tool

  • @nathanielprince17
    @nathanielprince17 7 днів тому +1

    Excellent stream. Needs to happen more

  • @adampettit8119
    @adampettit8119 6 днів тому

    Potts going for the posotive guests 😂

  • @Trusttheprocessin2052
    @Trusttheprocessin2052 7 днів тому

    But he sings North London forever and does arm waves to pump up the crowd

  • @dchampionpraisekeyz8341
    @dchampionpraisekeyz8341 7 днів тому +1

    Saka will be in the conversation in starting at Madrid ahead of Rodrigo

    • @chrisarkenston3340
      @chrisarkenston3340 6 днів тому

      Sorry, his level is sdtarting for West Ham, Fulham, Palace and such other cozy mid table teams. He was never at the level of a (former) big club like Arsenal. As a sub, maybe. But not as the face of the 3rd youth project in the Emirates era. Massive drop of the winning standards, fallen and finished club.

    • @dchampionpraisekeyz8341
      @dchampionpraisekeyz8341 6 днів тому

      @chrisarkenston3340 Well that's your opinion

    • @babansif
      @babansif 6 днів тому

      No he won’t.

    • @dchampionpraisekeyz8341
      @dchampionpraisekeyz8341 6 днів тому

      @@babansif ur opinion but Saka been ahead of him in world ratings and ranking

    • @chrisarkenston3340
      @chrisarkenston3340 5 днів тому

      @ It's the reality that the new generation of fans refuse to see : Saka is cozy at Arsenal and won't demand his transfer to Liverpool, Real or Bayern, in order to win something before his career is finished by this fraudulent manager and owners, whipping him while he's injured to carry the team every game. How the things are looking, he's on the path of Kane and Rashford : love the fans attachment adulations, being the prisoner of the club.

  • @terranceparris4169
    @terranceparris4169 7 днів тому +1

    World class = performance with consistency

  • @PaddyVieira4
    @PaddyVieira4 7 днів тому +3

    Arteta likes impressionable younger players. What comes with young players? Inconsistent performances, excuses.

    • @CRG492
      @CRG492 7 днів тому +1

      Arteta likes players who he can manipulate....he can't work with strong personalities.....once he got rid of the sp called trouble making strong personalities, he won NOTHING, ZERO, NADAA,

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 7 днів тому +1

      @@CRG492This is some waffle that has no legs for me, who goes into management worrying about these things? Especially taking on the Arsenal job. Being confident in your self and having ego is different to having attitude problems disrupting everyone else. Xhaka, Trossard, White, Nketiah are players seem like see who have bigger personalities but they haven’t caused any trouble behind the scenes.

    • @abhijeetchandra4657
      @abhijeetchandra4657 7 днів тому +1

      @jgunner only one waffling is you 😂😂

    • @jgunner94
      @jgunner94 7 днів тому +1

      @@abhijeetchandra4657 Am I? I think it makes more sense that a manager who’s doing a job in front of millions and having to deal with many different people day to day isn’t worried about some players having a bigger personality. And the argument to say this isn’t the case is a player having discipline issues from 3 years ago. I’m not buying it.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      Really? Because other fans insist Arteta doesn't give youth a chance...

  • @JD--we4rd
    @JD--we4rd 7 днів тому

    Bid for watkins is just to look like we tried

  • @jonafena4639
    @jonafena4639 6 днів тому

    Lee gunner What kind of Engery is that Towards the team

  • @kevinb9830
    @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

    Which strikers are world class who are available? There's none who fit that tag right now.

    • @granitxhaka7261
      @granitxhaka7261 7 днів тому +2

      Do you think the Club's Owners will ever apologise for failure if fans keep making excuses for them? 1-2 seasons ago we needed just a Striker but now our entire mid and attack need a rebuild 😅

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      @@granitxhaka7261 They don't care what domestic fans think.

    • @granitxhaka7261
      @granitxhaka7261 7 днів тому

      @@kevinb9830 Yeah men you are right in a way but I don't think is even about domestic fans anymore. I've spoken to plenty of Senior fans who are mad into this 'PRocess' and honestly seeing what most fanbase think about Arsenal, I think I've been very stupid to support a Circus and expect any more than entertainment and I'll have to stop watching football completely. Still love the Club and hope in 2-3 years by the time I have kids this brainwashed fanbase wake-up to Kronke's North London Ponzi Scheme, I'm done being mugged by these owners and fans have to realise that Ambition and Standards of a Club especially Arsenal are dictated by either the Owners or Fans cus the Fans got Wenger and Emery sacked not Kronke. Keep fighting the good fight or this Club is done when Saliba leaves soon cus even then you will have Arteta fans who can't see Arsenal's future without him and he is Kronke's dream cash cow who's raked in 2.5+ billion in revenue for them and they made him 3rd highest paid manager in World Football and rightfully so but at the cost of Arsenal winning nothing unfortunately

  • @SP-xg3xh
    @SP-xg3xh 7 днів тому

    The Watkins bid was a PR "we tried" move!!! We knew Duran was in contention to go Saudi since 2 days ago - why would we bid knowing this and knowing villa would NEVER let go of both of their strikers in 1 window. This club is LAME

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      Well work it out yourself, they might decide to accept our offer and keep Duran as their future. It's one or the other.

    • @SP-xg3xh
      @SP-xg3xh 7 днів тому

      @@kevinb9830 Duran is off to Saudi and that's been confirmed since 8 hours ago lol why would we bid for Watkins knowing this

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      @@SP-xg3xh Last I heard was 'advanced talks'.

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      @@SP-xg3xh And we bid for Watkins on Monday, so...

  • @hashgnome9326
    @hashgnome9326 7 днів тому

    The Watkins bid is almost as embarrassing as the Luiz Suarez bid. Thats like taking a beautiful woman to McDonald's for a first date 😂 be serious or don't bother

  • @reungchin
    @reungchin 7 днів тому

    If Assenal want players, Assenal must get from the french league!!! Assenal has always been a french player team😂

  • @obitouchiha2668
    @obitouchiha2668 7 днів тому

    Retegui is class!

  • @OGTricksy
    @OGTricksy 6 днів тому +1

    Welcome to the circus, We will never be a serious club.

  • @Rodmandogs
    @Rodmandogs 7 днів тому +2

    Phase 5 and I'm meant to be happy with Ollie Watkins panic buy ? Club is a joke

    • @granitxhaka7261
      @granitxhaka7261 7 днів тому

      Kronke's North London Ponzi Scheme in full effect

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      Who do you think is better and available right now?

    • @Rodmandogs
      @Rodmandogs 7 днів тому

      @@kevinb9830 Oshimhen & Vlahovic

    • @ajbyatt1419
      @ajbyatt1419 4 дні тому

      ​@@kevinb9830 any player is available if we pay the money we drop the 150 million pounds we get Alexander Isak right now

  • @dessiparis3553
    @dessiparis3553 7 днів тому +2

    Saka can get in Madrid on the right, he is better than Rodrigo and diaz

    • @AfricanHeavyMetalGuy
      @AfricanHeavyMetalGuy 7 днів тому +2

      He is not that much better than Rodrygo. Rodrygo is slowly starting to get into his own.

    • @dessiparis3553
      @dessiparis3553 6 днів тому

      @@AfricanHeavyMetalGuy Saka is better than Rodrigo and yamal

    • @AfricanHeavyMetalGuy
      @AfricanHeavyMetalGuy 5 днів тому

      @@dessiparis3553 I would say Rodrygo is on par. He is definitely not better than Yamal. Stop this nonsense. If Barcelona bought Salah, would they play him on the right or switch his position. If Barca buys Saka, he'll be benched. That's how I know. Yamal has also actually led his teams to trophies. Something Saka hasn't done.

  • @rossoconnor1769
    @rossoconnor1769 5 днів тому

    Watkins was and will never happen. Arsenal playing the fanbase as always

  • @johngoodwin9636
    @johngoodwin9636 7 днів тому +3

    Lee Gunner thinks he knows everything but knows nothing about everything he thinks he knows what the club is doing behind the scenes because he knows how transfers work because he's ran a club no he's a UA-camr who hasn't got a clue

    • @HerkulesNorsk
      @HerkulesNorsk 7 днів тому +1

      He is comparing every club to Real Madrid and says every should apply their standard to sack managers.
      This is most stupid thing I have ever heard, like every manager of every Club get handed world class players every year…

    • @granitxhaka7261
      @granitxhaka7261 7 днів тому +3

      The fact Arteta's only fans have not realised that we are Kronke's North London Ponzi Scheme makes a drunk like Lee being right even worse

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому +1

      @@granitxhaka7261 It's not about being a 'fan of Arteta'. God I hate modern social media 'fans'.

    • @marcwillard
      @marcwillard 7 днів тому

      ⁠@@HerkulesNorskMate… you act like Madrid haven’t got the history to demand that. Manchester United were similar, when they were winning.
      They could demand any player, except those from Real Madrid.
      I hear you, his tone may be “negative” but for a big club like Arsenal we should be in the conversation for the best players and managers in the world……
      problem is…. we haven’t won anything for so long to justify that.
      You’re going to tell me I’m deluded but Man City is a thing.
      Then you’re going say money money money. We made 20 million net profit in the summer.
      What I’ve noticed, bar man City. The Top 6 are owned by American franchises, and out of all those clubs. Chelsea and Man City have won the most in the last 20 years.
      Im enraged because it hurts to see so clearly, we could’ve won a lot more - with just a little more initiative. Please don’t hate me.

    • @HerkulesNorsk
      @HerkulesNorsk 7 днів тому +1

      @@marcwillard I do not disagree with you on anything, my point is that Lee claps his hands in aw, because the fans there want to sack a manager everytime they loose a game, I am saying that is not valid point when he critisize Brighton or Arsenal for not doing the same.
      If Kroenke bought us a world class player every season, ok, we should demand a major every season….

  • @davidjames4139
    @davidjames4139 7 днів тому

    Watkins deal is on skysports

    • @CRG492
      @CRG492 7 днів тому

      @@davidjames4139 asking price from Villa is 100 million....Arsenal are not paying that....they won't get him

  • @RichieePasteka
    @RichieePasteka 7 днів тому

    Very clever by Arsenal 😂😂😂😂😂😂 are you having a laugh

  • @cleonheslop2382
    @cleonheslop2382 7 днів тому +1

    Dan,,, I love ur show,,, but this guy just spew all the crap,,, no longer in the pass dude...

  • @itstherefsfault7083
    @itstherefsfault7083 7 днів тому +2

    Still laughin at the guy who says rice is world class

    • @jusaddz7012
      @jusaddz7012 7 днів тому +1

      His so overrated its unbelievable

    • @cursive1805
      @cursive1805 7 днів тому

      He's world class mate. Just like Saka is world class but the manager stifles them both.

    • @itstherefsfault7083
      @itstherefsfault7083 7 днів тому +1

      ​@@cursive1805 thats your opinion👍

    • @granitxhaka7261
      @granitxhaka7261 7 днів тому

      ​@@cursive1805it's unfortunate Saka didn't even feature during the last trophy we won and as soon as he contributes to Arsenal winning a cup or trophy he will be World class for me

    • @kevinb9830
      @kevinb9830 7 днів тому

      @@itstherefsfault7083 Really? I thought it was someone else's.