The idea itself is great. If it had a replaceable battery, I would have already ordered it... But it has a built-in one. They must limit their greed for money and reach out to the customer - then they will have money.
yeah it depends on what the goal is.... building the most compact/light/capable flashlight with usb c charging probably required this proprietary design. how many of us have even cycled a cell to the point of serious performance loss before we are bored with the light and move on to something else lol
Awesome review as usual mate 👍 As far as i understood, the reason for the built-in was so they could have a smaller size body with a bigger capacity battery ... I think the concept of mixing flood and spot in the same light has a lot of potential , Nitecore is one of the few brands that seem to actually pay attention to customer feedback , so maybe they'll come up with a new version with a replaceable battery eh !
Sweeet light! Been rockin it for a month or so now, the LED is so awesome! Haven’t charged it once so not worried about the built in battery, I’ll have 3 more EDC lights before the battery even gets broken in so it doesn’t matter. Thank you for review!
Can you do a comparison( beam test/throw) video of Fenix E28R V2 vs LD30R vs E35R? Fenix and Nitecore has authorised dealership in my country, but Nitecore models are not widely available like Fenix. Older model are being sold for 2× of the original price. 🙁
Speaking from the perspective of someone who owns several 4000 lumen flashlights they are definitely not meant to be run on max output all the time. They get hot very quickly and I've drained the battery by impressing my friends with that crazy 4000 lumen turbo lol.
Hey Crispy you’re in Buff, I’m from Rochester. I’m moved to the south, definitely don’t miss those heavy snowfalls. I’ve been looking to upgrade my edc light. I work nights and I carry 2 lights. This seems like a good inexpensive do it all light. Thanks for the Review, stay warm.
Excellent review.👍. Agree that the one major downside, is the built in battery. Not a fan of those. But as you've said, its utility would depend on the intended use, say, EDC vs. Camping.
It's such a rational features compact into one that i think will come up in future lights. The battery issue. I Vaped for a while and companies that made mods with batteries that could not be switched were usually selling lot's of mods. But the enthusiasts vaper always complained about it. But most of those mods are done today. But the casual consumer does not care, i think. They think it's a less hassle to just have to put a c-type in and charge. But i'm getting a edc-35, on it's way. That looks like it could give me juice for at least 24 hours with the built in 6000 mAh. But thanks for the review.
The new LED is interesting as it seems to have two separate power channels - for the central and outer LEDs. I wish it was more balanced towards the floow on the lower modes, and had less green tint. Otherwise the light is great. Love the tactical modes, my main use is for dealing with aggressive dogs (stray or just unleashed). Most people misunderstand the use of tactical modes. You don't blast the light at your targed for long; you hit them for a second or two and this buys you a few more seconds to extract yourself from the situation, that's it. Search mode is (obviously) quite useful outdoors to look at things far away - also rarely used by me for longer then 5 seconds at a time.
5 lumen moonlight mode and a built-in battery are both dealbreakers for me 😕 And I don't like that pocket clip. All flashlights should have a 2 way pocket clip! Not only because you can carry it in 2 ways, but because I always use my thumb and index finger to lift up the pocket clip before I put it in my pocket. Those thin pocket clips just digs into your fingers and kinda hurt.
Alot of flashlight makers are going to non removable batteries. I dont like non removable or proprietery batteries that can be removed. If they stop making them or change them so that they are different you are also screwed. I have the edc27 and love it but battery isnt replaceable. At some point it will be a paper weight. I like the edc 27 better then the olight arkfields
@@ChrispyThings it does get hot on turbo but turbo dosent stay on unless you hold it. Then it drops down to to almost as many lumens as the arkfield when its on turbo. I think arkfield turbo is 1200 or 1300 and high on the edc27 is 1000 and turbo is 3000 so there is a big differance in the outputs. I dont use turbo often and I dont need uv light or a pointer.
Companies who make products with built-in batteries (with some necessary exceptions) are asking for a lawsuit. Too much E-waste. Not only that but I don't accept the fact that a $300 investment (TM20K for example) could get written off by a faulty $20 battery.
@@greenyoshi777 I wouldnt buy a 300 dollar light with a non replaceable battery or a proprietery battery. What are they going to get sued for making a legal product. If you cant sue an ev maker with all their problems with batteries then the low waste from a flashlight battery is a non law suit. Ebikes also have bigger batteries then the biggest flashlights. All have had more problems with their batteries then the flashlight makers
Hello. Nice brand but i don't like build battery and special batery like for my model SRT7i. I know the build battery have some positove thinks yes.But if you work like security and you need more lite and more time work. We have problem one time the battery empty we need to charge it, and between charge you need to work. So is not good idea.. but nice review. Thanks
the built in battery is planned obsolescence for sure, but… it will operate fully while charging so, conceivably, it would work as a camping light with an XTAR PB2S on hand
Usually security guards and LE use lights like streamlight that accepts only proprietary batteries. Built in battery isn't a big deal for a backup light used for duty, but it is in a SHTF scenario.
I have this light, i have pretty big hands and that 4k luminshield makes it so damn hot that after 7 seconds it literally burns two of my fingers, i have to hold the light as far back as i can just to be able to use this function which makes it slightly uncomfortable to hold down the tailswitch. I will get the edc 35 when it comes out as it is bigger, i should be able to get a full grip on that model
its already out. i got mine last week. the turbo modes only run about 10 seconds, im surprised the edc33 is 20 seconds but its also not as much light. i mostly use the mid modes and when comparing it to my p23i it has more light in the spill area. the 1300 lumen high turns on the extra leds so a ton on light in the spill area in that mode. if i needed the 3k lumen for longer periods i would use the p23i but ive always used that mode briefly anyways.
@@ChrispyThingsA number of manufacturers do this. Nitecore is already exaggerating... They will have the opposite effect and they will not make any money. Well, unless there are a lot of naive people... For example, Fenix provides a warranty period of 5 years, but for built-in batteries it is 2 years and will probably not cover "natural wear and tear".
Just wish the flood light LEDs were usable at the lower light modes. Cause for me EDC is you looking around for things abd usually a flood light throw pattern is more effective than a hot spotted throw pattern
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The idea itself is great. If it had a replaceable battery, I would have already ordered it... But it has a built-in one. They must limit their greed for money and reach out to the customer - then they will have money.
yeah it depends on what the goal is.... building the most compact/light/capable flashlight with usb c charging probably required this proprietary design. how many of us have even cycled a cell to the point of serious performance loss before we are bored with the light and move on to something else lol
Awesome review as usual mate 👍
As far as i understood, the reason for the built-in was so they could have a smaller size body with a bigger capacity battery ...
I think the concept of mixing flood and spot in the same light has a lot of potential , Nitecore is one of the few brands that seem to actually pay attention to customer feedback , so maybe they'll come up with a new version with a replaceable battery eh !
Sweeet light! Been rockin it for a month or so now, the LED is so awesome! Haven’t charged it once so not worried about the built in battery, I’ll have 3 more EDC lights before the battery even gets broken in so it doesn’t matter. Thank you for review!
thank you!
Another great review! Appreciate the honest and unbiased content brotha!
Thanks!
Can you do a comparison( beam test/throw) video of Fenix E28R V2 vs LD30R vs E35R?
Fenix and Nitecore has authorised dealership in my country, but Nitecore models are not widely available like Fenix. Older model are being sold for 2× of the original price. 🙁
Speaking from the perspective of someone who owns several 4000 lumen flashlights they are definitely not meant to be run on max output all the time. They get hot very quickly and I've drained the battery by impressing my friends with that crazy 4000 lumen turbo lol.
What do you recommend with high candela?
Hey Crispy you’re in Buff, I’m from Rochester. I’m moved to the south, definitely don’t miss those heavy snowfalls. I’ve been looking to upgrade my edc light. I work nights and I carry 2 lights. This seems like a good inexpensive do it all light. Thanks for the Review, stay warm.
Awesome. I’m in Rochester a lot 👍🏻
Excellent review.👍. Agree that the one major downside, is the built in battery. Not a fan of those. But as you've said, its utility would depend on the intended use, say, EDC vs. Camping.
It's such a rational features compact into one that i think will come up in future lights. The battery issue. I Vaped for a while and companies that made mods with batteries that could not be switched were usually selling lot's of mods. But the enthusiasts vaper always complained about it. But most of those mods are done today. But the casual consumer does not care, i think. They think it's a less hassle to just have to put a c-type in and charge. But i'm getting a edc-35, on it's way. That looks like it could give me juice for at least 24 hours with the built in 6000 mAh. But thanks for the review.
I see what you like in this light. Shame about the non-replaceable battery.
The new LED is interesting as it seems to have two separate power channels - for the central and outer LEDs. I wish it was more balanced towards the floow on the lower modes, and had less green tint. Otherwise the light is great. Love the tactical modes, my main use is for dealing with aggressive dogs (stray or just unleashed). Most people misunderstand the use of tactical modes. You don't blast the light at your targed for long; you hit them for a second or two and this buys you a few more seconds to extract yourself from the situation, that's it. Search mode is (obviously) quite useful outdoors to look at things far away - also rarely used by me for longer then 5 seconds at a time.
Agreed. A lot of people down play just how useful a quick laugh lumen blast to the eyes can be in a self defense situation
5 lumen moonlight mode and a built-in battery are both dealbreakers for me 😕 And I don't like that pocket clip. All flashlights should have a 2 way pocket clip! Not only because you can carry it in 2 ways, but because I always use my thumb and index finger to lift up the pocket clip before I put it in my pocket. Those thin pocket clips just digs into your fingers and kinda hurt.
Thanks for the review!
I really don’t mind the non removable battery. Might get one soon!
Alot of flashlight makers are going to non removable batteries. I dont like non removable or proprietery batteries that can be removed. If they stop making them or change them so that they are different you are also screwed. I have the edc27 and love it but battery isnt replaceable. At some point it will be a paper weight. I like the edc 27 better then the olight arkfields
The EDC27 is a solid light. My issue with it was the non replaceable battery and how hot it was on higher lumen levels. Similar to the EDC33
@@ChrispyThings it does get hot on turbo but turbo dosent stay on unless you hold it. Then it drops down to to almost as many lumens as the arkfield when its on turbo. I think arkfield turbo is 1200 or 1300 and high on the edc27 is 1000 and turbo is 3000 so there is a big differance in the outputs. I dont use turbo often and I dont need uv light or a pointer.
Companies who make products with built-in batteries (with some necessary exceptions) are asking for a lawsuit. Too much E-waste. Not only that but I don't accept the fact that a $300 investment (TM20K for example) could get written off by a faulty $20 battery.
@@greenyoshi777 I wouldnt buy a 300 dollar light with a non replaceable battery or a proprietery battery. What are they going to get sued for making a legal product. If you cant sue an ev maker with all their problems with batteries then the low waste from a flashlight battery is a non law suit. Ebikes also have bigger batteries then the biggest flashlights. All have had more problems with their batteries then the flashlight makers
@@rickomey2546 Consumer protection laws exist for a reason. As do environmental laws.
Hello. Nice brand but i don't like build battery and special batery like for my model SRT7i. I know the build battery have some positove thinks yes.But if you work like security and you need more lite and more time work. We have problem one time the battery empty we need to charge it, and between charge you need to work. So is not good idea.. but nice review. Thanks
the built in battery is planned obsolescence for sure, but… it will operate fully while charging so, conceivably, it would work as a camping light with an XTAR PB2S on hand
Great point
Usually security guards and LE use lights like streamlight that accepts only proprietary batteries. Built in battery isn't a big deal for a backup light used for duty, but it is in a SHTF scenario.
That’s true but it’s really all just preference. If I was working night security somewhere I’d want a replaceable battery
@@ChrispyThings
I personally carry 2 flashlights for duty, a primary and a backup.
@@johnb5393what’s your duty light?
Nice Video. Which one has more throw, this one or MH12 Pro? MH12 Pro should have a bit more candela.
Eco trash- built-in battery.
Wait till you try the EDC35. I really like this light for basically the price of a tank of gas. Thank you. Well done as usual. Subscribed.
Its currently being shipped to me as we speak
@@ChrispyThingsDefinitely heavier and bigger but longer runtimes. Hope you like it.
I have this light, i have pretty big hands and that 4k luminshield makes it so damn hot that after 7 seconds it literally burns two of my fingers, i have to hold the light as far back as i can just to be able to use this function which makes it slightly uncomfortable to hold down the tailswitch. I will get the edc 35 when it comes out as it is bigger, i should be able to get a full grip on that model
It gets very hot. You’re limited to either not using the high lumen modes, or wearing gloves. Lol
Im looking forward to see your review of the edc35 🤙
its already out. i got mine last week. the turbo modes only run about 10 seconds, im surprised the edc33 is 20 seconds but its also not as much light. i mostly use the mid modes and when comparing it to my p23i it has more light in the spill area. the 1300 lumen high turns on the extra leds so a ton on light in the spill area in that mode. if i needed the 3k lumen for longer periods i would use the p23i but ive always used that mode briefly anyways.
Can you please tell me what digital calipers you use in this video. It looks awesome!
It’s called a Neoruler and goes for $250…Ouch.
this is the perfect edc light for light use on walls, but for tactical longer use purpose the P23i is my choice
This isn’t a light for “tactical” use.
@@ChrispyThings right.. its a good size for belt carry because of its size/weight/brightness/throw… too bad its kinda fragile & gets so hot
How long can you hold the 4000 lumen burst for? Does it automatically turn off after several seconds?
I tested it in this video. Did you miss it?
Do you have the data of the battery life time pleased?
No I don’t sorry. I’ve only had this light for a few months now. It’ll take years for this battery to completely die out
Have you seen the Jewel eye headlights on the new Acura mdx, it has a rainbow type glimmer. That technology is amazing!
I haven’t yet
Built in battery is bummer, I'll just get the Sofirn SC33. Still good flashlight it's just built in batteries ain't for me.
I've always said their design and interface is the best but then they RUIN it with non removable batteries. That thing would almost be perfect then.
Exactly. I’m not sure why they do it.
This is the second light in their “EDC” line up I have without a replaceable battery.
@@ChrispyThingsFor money. The built-in battery comes with a much shorter warranty.
@@ChrispyThingsA number of manufacturers do this. Nitecore is already exaggerating... They will have the opposite effect and they will not make any money. Well, unless there are a lot of naive people... For example, Fenix provides a warranty period of 5 years, but for built-in batteries it is 2 years and will probably not cover "natural wear and tear".
Just wish the flood light LEDs were usable at the lower light modes. Cause for me EDC is you looking around for things abd usually a flood light throw pattern is more effective than a hot spotted throw pattern
I mentioned this exact thing in my EDC35 video
It doesn’t have strobe?
No strobe
Strobe?
No strobe
No replacement battery.....No thanks.... Deal breaker !..
Womp Womp
What is the big deal? Nothing lasts forever.
It a edc
Built in battery? I'm out!
is this model operable while charging like the TUP?
If I spend $100 on a flashlight it has to be a FENIX OR A KLARUS . Nitecore quality is "gimmicky "
From my experience Nitecore quality is on point with both of those companies. 👍🏻