MTG Arena - Historic - Hondens

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  • Опубліковано 8 жов 2024
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  • @Avatarbee
    @Avatarbee 4 роки тому +135

    11:22 Casual 120 damage on turn 4

    • @sagemcbee5323
      @sagemcbee5323 4 роки тому +69

      "That seems reasonable"

    • @koty9121
      @koty9121 4 роки тому +41

      On to the next one

    • @literallysomedudeliterally9470
      @literallysomedudeliterally9470 4 роки тому +21

      Naya Winota won the latest historic tournament. Be ready to see a lot of it

    • @JS-it3dx
      @JS-it3dx 4 роки тому +30

      ban winota that card is cancer

    • @sagemcbee5323
      @sagemcbee5323 4 роки тому +14

      ​@@JS-it3dx or at least Agent of Treachery, the bane of standard rn

  • @hankravich8495
    @hankravich8495 4 роки тому +87

    That Ultimatum at 27:05 was so satisfying.

    • @Abraktil
      @Abraktil 4 роки тому +20

      plus the fact the mono white have missed lethal like 4 times...so dumb

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 4 роки тому

      #spoilers

    • @aleksaa24
      @aleksaa24 4 роки тому +20

      @@erenjaegerbomb8653 maybe just don't read the comments before watching the video since, you know, the comments would be talking about the video

    • @jeffcgh
      @jeffcgh 4 роки тому +4

      Romain Verneyre mono white players have a combined 3 brain cells between them in my experience.

  • @andrewschmidt7885
    @andrewschmidt7885 4 роки тому +136

    Gets absolutely smashed: onto the next one

    • @jadenoodles42
      @jadenoodles42 4 роки тому +24

      well that seems reasonable

    • @StrawMan1235
      @StrawMan1235 4 роки тому +8

      That is more or less my response anytime I face a Winona deck as well. Not an interesting math in the slightest.

    • @gogaschnitzel3222
      @gogaschnitzel3222 4 роки тому +5

      Imagine getting jumped by a gang of 10 dudes with knives and guns, making a total massacre out of your body and destroying every little piece that could be used to identify your dead body and then burning the still left alive remaints only for you to say in your dying breath as calmly as LegenVD "Well, onto the next one"

    • @ynpavo
      @ynpavo 4 роки тому

      @@gogaschnitzel3222 only works if youre religious though

    • @S_e_r_c_h_u
      @S_e_r_c_h_u 4 роки тому

      Came here looking exactly for that comment - was not disappointed. He's such a stoic guy.

  • @kylehayes2498
    @kylehayes2498 4 роки тому +168

    Wish I could be more like LVD when faced with absolute degeneracy. "Alright that seems reasonable" as he loses 111 life on turn 4.

    • @jadennichols8767
      @jadennichols8767 4 роки тому +12

      I don’t know how he does it

    • @dabrainCH
      @dabrainCH 4 роки тому +6

      same here, happened yesterday again and I surely wasn't that calm.... LVD is my hero in more than one way ;)

    • @Bernadottes777
      @Bernadottes777 4 роки тому +2

      Yes, the man has balls of steel.

    • @Fiskie666
      @Fiskie666 4 роки тому +3

      No you don't wanna be like him. The guy makes good decks but he has no emotions.

    • @deathonion404
      @deathonion404 4 роки тому +17

      @@Fiskie666 have you heard of dry humour

  • @antonioacuna9810
    @antonioacuna9810 4 роки тому +40

    11:13 "that seems reasonable" have a nice day lol

  • @jmcrofts
    @jmcrofts 4 роки тому +3

    It's hard to find really good historic decks like this, please keep them coming!!

  • @mistercleff8819
    @mistercleff8819 4 роки тому +24

    Yeeeesssss! My favorite mtg UA-camr doing one of my favorite archetypes of the new anthology!

  • @DanyF02
    @DanyF02 4 роки тому +15

    10:09 "So how much damage are we taking next turn, quite a lot..."
    Well you called it!

  • @Dog3D
    @Dog3D 4 роки тому +13

    Match 4 against the life gain deck is an absolute joy to watch

  • @SirMcAwesome
    @SirMcAwesome 4 роки тому +7

    The game vs the ajani/helliod deck was awesome. Opponent might have misplayed slightly by being too passive at some points and in how they distributed counters sometimes, but that was very enjoyable to watch, I still didn't think you'd make it.

  • @AMageOldAsDirt
    @AMageOldAsDirt 4 роки тому +24

    To play around gingerbrute you could've cast Keruga instead of tutor at 30:20 then given it lifelink with clarion the following turn. A pretty hindsight-y play but technically there was SOMETHING you could've done to prevent gingerbrute lethal.

    • @jzoobs
      @jzoobs 4 роки тому +1

      I mean he could've also just gotten the White Honden. Seems better to pad the life total because at that point opponent's only chance is to steal the game with fast damage.

    • @RannekoPlays
      @RannekoPlays 4 роки тому +6

      @@jzoobs I don't think there was an opportunity for the Honden to kick in, but Keruga would have come down 1 turn earlier and drawn 2 cards in the process.

    • @erenjaegerbomb8653
      @erenjaegerbomb8653 4 роки тому

      @@jzoobs yeah if you notice the blue shrine never drew a card, so white honden wouldn't have gained life yet

    • @jzoobs
      @jzoobs 4 роки тому

      @@erenjaegerbomb8653 ah right, there was no upkeep.

  • @Toppro
    @Toppro 4 роки тому

    This deck really cooks! The surprise factor really helps. I'm having good success with it in platinum.

  • @thechoadester
    @thechoadester 4 роки тому +19

    I’ve watched your videos since Magic Duels, and I’m impressed with your content yes, I think you’re the best Mtg youtuber. However I’m more impressed by your unbiased demeanor and willingness to continue playing through this era of.. imo broken magic. I stopped playing when Eldraine spoilers began, I thought eldraine was bad but omg has mtg gotten worse. Keep up the good work LvD you’re still the GOAT!

    • @Ayrton-Da-Silva
      @Ayrton-Da-Silva 4 роки тому +1

      Hi, could you elaborate about eldraine being bad?

    • @ChairmanMeow1
      @ChairmanMeow1 4 роки тому +1

      I thought Eldraine was good. But yea I think it's been downhill since Dominaria overall. Ikoria especially I really dislike. First one in a while I have straight up not liked.

    • @SquareTales
      @SquareTales 4 роки тому

      Eldraine was amazing. Ikoria sux though

    • @franbh94
      @franbh94 4 роки тому +3

      Imo, I started watching the spoilers and so since War of the Spark.
      T3feri changed us all...
      Aside from that (and maybe Big Bolas for Grixis) it wasn't that bad.
      Oh, sorry, I juat remembered Nissa...
      Core Set 2020? Chandra and Cavalcade? Fast but even manageable.
      Agent of treachery? Just in grixis reanimations (which lost against Rakdos)
      Eldraine? Faster and Stronger. Questing Beast, Fires of Invention... The horror that were Oko and Once upon a Time... But enjoyable, nonetheless.
      Theros? Faster and Stronger Monored, Azorius-based control (bant/azorius), Selesnya Auras, Simic Ramp...
      Even Nissa starts to feel "slow"
      Ikoria... Better consistency due to Cycling, new ways to cheat Agent of Treachery non-ramp dependent, 8-cards starting hands, Nova damage decks which make Gary feel slow in comparison...
      I think that maybe there will be a ban (winota maybe? AEtherworks marvels is ban as well) but, with time, the set will seem to be inferior to Core Set 2021 (ft. Teferi)

    • @demilembias2527
      @demilembias2527 3 роки тому

      spend some time playing yugioh and you will never complain about magic being broken ever again

  • @storyhousePMod
    @storyhousePMod 4 роки тому

    Nice way of handling Zenith Flare! Very impressed. Something to keep in mind.

  • @tolkkiturilli
    @tolkkiturilli 4 роки тому +7

    Hahaha the "that seems reasonable" at the AoT dropping and the Minota killing wave

  • @jakenhsman
    @jakenhsman 4 роки тому +1

    This was a fun deck to watch, hope to see some more crazy historic stuff in the future.

  • @JG-jw1ju
    @JG-jw1ju 4 роки тому

    Its always nice to see an LVD video posted after a rough day. Thank you for posting these.

  • @robthehood1765
    @robthehood1765 4 роки тому +2

    Man your videos are kickass, been watching since magic duels and you never stopped being good XD

  • @thesarcasticliberal
    @thesarcasticliberal 4 роки тому

    I made a version of this deck that uses Thirst for Meaning and Cathartic Reunion to discard your hondens, which lets you power-draw towards Dance of the Manse. Because all of the hondens cost 5 or less, you can revive all 5 for 7 mana with Dance, without having to worry about the color of the mana you are using. The rest of the deck is just Fires of Invention, control tools (run Justice Strike with the number of Phyxerian Obliterators floating around), Fae of Wishes, and teferi/narset.

  • @saxyman1365
    @saxyman1365 4 роки тому

    Yessss! Can you please do this exact same deck again, this was one of the best yet

  • @syntaxerror2409
    @syntaxerror2409 4 роки тому +4

    Nobody:
    LVD: Okay, unto the next one
    love your video man!

  • @MineRoyale.
    @MineRoyale. 4 роки тому +3

    I think an all enchantment deck with Umori and the dryad of ilysian groves and the wolf mana enchantment makes a lot of sense with Hondens. It's just more explosive.

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 роки тому +1

      That deck is really missing Urban Utopia.

  • @Jero1020
    @Jero1020 4 роки тому +7

    Feels like a fires deck instead of the shrines...

  • @dontaccoll
    @dontaccoll 4 роки тому +4

    Winota: attack for 124dmg
    Legend: "alright, well, that seems reasonable"

  • @tattat2005
    @tattat2005 4 роки тому

    What a nice way to start a Monday with a new LVD's video

  • @JukesMcGee
    @JukesMcGee 4 роки тому +16

    Every time I finish a LVD video: 11:22

  • @kokioen
    @kokioen 4 роки тому

    Yay hondens! G/W honden-tokens-pillowfort-enchantments-spirits was the first deck I ever built, back when I started back during the kamigawa block.

  • @dr_zeus5883
    @dr_zeus5883 4 роки тому +1

    That ruinous ultimatum was glorious

  • @Dog3D
    @Dog3D 4 роки тому +15

    I PREDICTED THE FUTURE. I KNEW THE SHRINE JANK WAS COMING

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 роки тому +11

      Must've infiltrated Patreon HQ.

  • @EDoyl
    @EDoyl 4 роки тому

    Treasure hunt decks are compatible with a lot of companions, even though they're not useful for the deck. Lurrus is definitely the best one to pick up though because it can net you some turn-0 concedes from players who don't want to play Lurrus.

  • @sakesyordi4234
    @sakesyordi4234 4 роки тому

    I Got 7-1 in historic constructed event with this exact Deck, You Mr LVD are quite a brewer

  • @admiralcasperr
    @admiralcasperr 4 роки тому

    The great strength of the Tempered Steel deck is that if you go against it without removal you die. It's a consistent T4 kill. Make a vid with it please!

  • @andrewcullen2527
    @andrewcullen2527 4 роки тому

    Hmm thats a neat combo idea zenith flare and treasure hunt with cycle lands, but yeah if you give away the flare too early and you have no back up win its so fragile.

  • @carsonhaizlip2584
    @carsonhaizlip2584 4 роки тому +5

    Takes 120 dmg... Me 😯😯😯
    LVD - On too the next one

  • @ВолодимирМайко-п7р

    man, great video and games! Please, make more)

  • @ShiivaWilding
    @ShiivaWilding 4 роки тому

    The end of match 2... I've never seen the double damage humans, holy shit!

  • @Tikomer
    @Tikomer 4 роки тому

    Love your Historic Vids LVD!

  • @dragonrulerbaby7926
    @dragonrulerbaby7926 4 роки тому

    the first honden deck i see which isnt total jank

  • @marcellokabora
    @marcellokabora 4 роки тому

    Best deck ever!

  • @pautantinya4683
    @pautantinya4683 4 роки тому +1

    11:10 "that seems reasonable"
    LegendVD jokes

  • @thrillhouse4151
    @thrillhouse4151 4 роки тому

    Ahhh if only changelings could become shrines, but it’s an enchantment subtype. Some sorta enchantment that turns lands into shrines would be cute if they revisit them.

  • @enzomarcodisciullo2595
    @enzomarcodisciullo2595 4 роки тому

    What do you think about Winota? Are you agree it is a card that should be banned basically everywhere? It is too much for too little...

  • @alex13579001
    @alex13579001 4 роки тому

    I'm not sure I understand. Blue historic but no witching well?! Is LegenVD under the weather? Is is... well?

  • @andyscout
    @andyscout 4 роки тому +1

    *At -111 life on turn 4
    "Well, that seems reasonable."

  • @thetwistedoak1
    @thetwistedoak1 4 роки тому

    Would it not had been faster mass reanimate them from graveyard in a discard deck?

  • @njnjhjh8918
    @njnjhjh8918 4 роки тому

    I won't put in Agent, but I definitely will put Angrath's Marauder's in my Winota deck.

  • @jorgeclaudio23
    @jorgeclaudio23 4 роки тому

    The opponent in game 3 has a brave soul

  • @salvadorreyessanchez9827
    @salvadorreyessanchez9827 4 роки тому

    HI legend, are you upgrading the humans deck on historic anytime soon? it got some good additions recently

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah have a new version in progress.

  • @shutupandpick740
    @shutupandpick740 4 роки тому

    I have paper shrines in a deck and exponential gain is sick

  • @le_gus001
    @le_gus001 4 роки тому

    26:55 what a round :D daaaaamn :D

  • @owN-77
    @owN-77 4 роки тому

    very very nice deck.

  • @SquareTales
    @SquareTales 4 роки тому

    Hondens happen to be a sidething in this deck :D

  • @xRaYm8nDx
    @xRaYm8nDx 4 роки тому

    cool, i like ur commentary

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 роки тому +1

      like ur comment!

  • @Big_Dai
    @Big_Dai 4 роки тому

    Haha, more like a Fires deck. Still pretty cool to see Hondens.

  • @nhagan001
    @nhagan001 4 роки тому

    Those shrines sound like they were made for LVD videos.

  • @TheAmazingSpiderman87
    @TheAmazingSpiderman87 4 роки тому

    Maro was just sittin in his study mindin his own business and even he felt that hurt from game two 😢

  • @Jovialnugs
    @Jovialnugs 4 роки тому

    LegenVD making me more comfortable about thinking to try historic

  • @DoomSpellSkadi
    @DoomSpellSkadi 4 роки тому

    12:12
    I heard "Fig Leaf Times Two" when he play treasure hunt

  • @TheAkhentan
    @TheAkhentan 4 роки тому

    Nice

  • @nevinherren2738
    @nevinherren2738 4 роки тому

    mirror gallery would make this scary.

  • @sergiorosendodasilvajunior687
    @sergiorosendodasilvajunior687 4 роки тому

    That seems reasonable.

  • @Bloodshade
    @Bloodshade 4 роки тому +1

    11:15 oh no.

  • @rexchin07
    @rexchin07 4 роки тому

    Kamigawa!!!

  • @EDoyl
    @EDoyl 4 роки тому

    11:12 Typical_Keruga_Game.mp4

  • @JukesMcGee
    @JukesMcGee 4 роки тому +4

    27:06 I came.

  • @DerLhurgoyf
    @DerLhurgoyf 4 роки тому

    Jank Week on LVD!

  • @darkrayaccel
    @darkrayaccel 4 роки тому

    11:10 yeah... naya winota just won a tourney over lukas agent and nexus of fate...Very reasonable =)

  • @benrichard452
    @benrichard452 4 роки тому +3

    am I the only one who says, "Go! Women!" when I make a chump blocker with Castle Ardenvale? I am? ok.

  • @Hawayio
    @Hawayio 4 роки тому

    The shrine reminds of bushido lol still prefer u playing drafts

  • @DoubleZDogg
    @DoubleZDogg 4 роки тому

    35:09 Potentially missed 4 damage here by not attacking. It's free anyways whether or not they chump.

    • @dionpritchard
      @dionpritchard 4 роки тому

      Lich has deathtouch and lifelink so the risk of them gaining life and us not gaining a card from shatter vs the reward of 4 damage isn't worth it.

  • @rockstrongomaxpower
    @rockstrongomaxpower 4 роки тому +1

    There is nothing reasonable about Winota decks.

  • @gaarabushi
    @gaarabushi 4 роки тому

    11.31 takes 111 damage, : "hum... seems reasonable..."

  • @le_gus001
    @le_gus001 4 роки тому +1

    37:40 computer says noo :D and enemy like "wtf why doesn't it work?" *plays another* "rigged, this game is just rigged!" :D :D

  • @NStripleseven
    @NStripleseven 2 роки тому

    wow that’s a lot of tutors

  • @lasse3469
    @lasse3469 4 роки тому

    Your'e probably the only one who plays then

  • @NerdGlassGamingPA
    @NerdGlassGamingPA 4 роки тому

    Deck is good enough get the hondens out they are just win more at this point. But cool idea nonetheless.

  • @Big_Dai
    @Big_Dai 4 роки тому

    That Game 2 against Winota on the draw.... I hate that card and it's design.
    No interaction or playing something on your turn before she comes out and you are done. Even holding mana is bad.

  • @mylifeasnemi3824
    @mylifeasnemi3824 4 роки тому

    "Yep, that's reasonable"
    >Gets -111 damaged into the abyss before turn 4.
    No Legend. That's fucking nonsense.

  • @josephpollak19
    @josephpollak19 4 роки тому

    "that seems reasonable" absolutely not reasonable at all lol

  • @brinkbleash
    @brinkbleash 4 роки тому

    hehe xd

  • @martineulitz8999
    @martineulitz8999 4 роки тому

    winota isn't op :P

  • @RagingGoblin
    @RagingGoblin 4 роки тому

    I really dislike Fires

  • @davestier6247
    @davestier6247 4 роки тому

    The hondens weren't good in their day and they aren't good now. Yuck.

  • @Coolpiss123
    @Coolpiss123 4 роки тому +2

    The deck looks solid, but the problem is you don't need the Hondens at all! You only cast a total of 3 and never got more than one of the field. It really just speaks volumes about you as a brewer though, it definitely has the base to be a more efficient deck just from your knowledge and intuition alone sans Hondens.

    • @literallysomedudeliterally9470
      @literallysomedudeliterally9470 4 роки тому +1

      The point of the deck is it is a Honden deck lol...

    • @jzoobs
      @jzoobs 4 роки тому +1

      @@literallysomedudeliterally9470 I think what they mean, or at least what I felt, is that the deck doesn't really use the Hondens to win. The game plan is really to just survive until he has the mana for Mastermind's Aquisition to tutor up a silver bullet from the sideboard. Then once the game is totally out of reach, the Hondens are one of the win-cons....but he can also just easily win with Castle Ardenvale making 4/4 Angels.
      So all that considered , it doesn't really feel like a "Honden Deck" per-se, when it comes to gameplay at least. But I do think it's a decent balance being a competitive and fun way to play with them.

    • @literallysomedudeliterally9470
      @literallysomedudeliterally9470 4 роки тому

      @@jzoobs Fires is a good shell to build around, especially for meme decks like Hondens, for sure

    • @LegenVD
      @LegenVD  4 роки тому

      Yeah that's a very fair criticism. The other builds used Hondens a little more, but they felt weaker overall.