My mom said she had a few friends who got it in the 80’s, two of whom it took almost instantly and one who is thriving and healthy today. I still don’t understand the link between HIV and AIDS or how one progresses to the other but it’s so great to see how effective the treatment cocktail has become! So happy to hear you’re doing well!
@@CJ-nd9gg in the grand scheme of things, he wasn't that effective. Not to minimise what he and his allies and supporters did achieve, which wasn't completely inconsequential, but if we're being honest, violent movements consistently achieve a lot more - case in point any successful revolution in history - and it's not as though racism has been adequately addressed let alone overcome in America. Of course, the US state is a more formidable opponent than the Tsar or Louis XVI, but as many conflicts in the 20th century showed, it's not an insurmountable obstacle, even despite the fact they have zero compunction about assassinated people like MLK
There is a very common misconception about why or how nonviolence works in the general population. Of course, no one with any power wants to encourage rebellion so we aren't taught about how to rebel effectively, not unless we seek out that knowledge. We are taught that Rosa Parks just decided one day to refuse to give up her seat, and that a movement just spontaneously formed afterwards to boycott Montgommery buses. The truth is that this was planned, Rosa Parks was already a member of the movement who was training for this, and they were ready to go, and that effective boycotts require a lot of planning, they don't just happen. But they don't teach you this at school. Non-violence doesn't rely on an appeal to the opponent's conscience to function. Nonviolence is a strategy that means to coerce an opponent via nonviolent means. The Civil Rights movement won because with well organized boycotts they hit the powerful where it hurts, right in the wallet. When they appealed to conscience, it wasn't the conscience of the police or the government or the racists. They appealed to ordinary citizens. When the media showed black men and women just marching peacefully or going for a swim and being attacked and beaten for it, it was hard to "both sides" it. The racists didn't care, of course, but a lot of ordinary people did, and politicians only support Segregation if it wins them elections. It has nothing to do with their conscience, and everything to do with coercion. Nonviolence worked against dictators and bigots many times. Research done by Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephan shows that nonviolent movements are far more effective than violent ones. Between 2000 and 2006, 70% of nonviolent campaigns succeeded, five times the success rate for violent ones. Looking back over the 20th century, she found that non-violent campaigns succeeded 53% of the time, compared with 26% for violent resistance. It seems counterintuitive, but it's true.
And there are those who will listen to this & say...."....but you don't have to be such a potty mouth about it!!" The ending was very, very true!! If we all don't start working together & stop the division....we're as good as dead!!
I love this clip because it shows the majority of his speech, but I wish they included the "three men in the back who riled me up." I saw another video that showed the argument that happened before he began his speech and the swearing was more than justified. It was necessary to get everyone in the room on the same page.
One of the best speeches I've heard highlighting the despair of the communities affected by AIDS and the triple tragedy of a nearly-impossible scientific obstacle, fractured activism, and a heartless American ruling class.
I was born past the 2000s, and I've never known how terrible the aids epidemic was. It's incredibly chilling seeing this speech today and learning about the extreme neglect the government had and the conservative media's distain and demonizing the crisis. I can only imagine how terrifying it must have been to live with aids is the 80s to 90s, knowing you were stigmatized and the government wanted to pretend like it didn't exist. This was such a passionate and chilling speech.
You can hear it in another clip but audience members were arguing that questions hadn't been answered and they deserved to be heard and then devolved into "what about my free speech" blah blah blah so Larry yelled "Plague!" to get them to sit down and listen
@@dividedtime8529 I legit just went back through my watch history for you but I couldn't find it. I believe it was from How To Survive a Plague on Netflix that I saw the full clip? But I honestly can't remember sorry
@@kt550 A racist incident, among an identifiable pattern of racist incidents? It's one possible data point that can add to the accumulating body of evidence that in fact all American institutions have historically been and continue to be racist. This is not necessarily the same as saying that all Americans are racist, which is frankly ridiculous - phrasing like "America is racist" entangles the mass of individuals with the institutions and government supposedly representing them, it's a deliberately provocative equivocation.
Always had alot of respect for Larry Kramer but know that alot of his interactions with Fauci have come back into the public consciousness, that respect has increased. The fact that the two of them have been able to reconcile their differences and move forward is impressive and speaks to both their characters.
His speech is more relevant now for than ever. I was 11 years old when I first saw this. He had my ear then as he did the day he died. I wish more people would listen,see, and feel what is going on with our society right now. We are sick! We are sick of being sick! Sick of sicknesses, racism, and injustice for our fellow Americans.
Wow I wish I could have heard this in 1991 but I was still a baby. This is eye opening. I feel like every President hasn't really cared. *This president just pins everyone Against each other.
An honest question: how did all of those people that contracted HIV in the '80s before the invention of the new drugs survive those years in between? Because you do hear a lot of cases of people that became symptomatic in the mid '80s that somehow survived until the new class of drugs, the cocktail if you will, came around in 1996. Was it their genetics or their diet and commitment to health or abstinence... Just curious. Thanks for sharing.
Well.... dying from a infectious terminal illness will probably make you permanently unemployed since nobody would want to hire a pile of dead bones...
I've had HIV since 1986 I was 16..Thank Mr Kramer and ACT UP! I'm 52 now and still feeling healthy... because of our activisms.
See you in heaven! 💖
Beautiful man. Exactly what same people need to hear.
My mom said she had a few friends who got it in the 80’s, two of whom it took almost instantly and one who is thriving and healthy today. I still don’t understand the link between HIV and AIDS or how one progresses to the other but it’s so great to see how effective the treatment cocktail has become! So happy to hear you’re doing well!
So glad you're still here with us and doing well!!
Very glad to hear, big love
"KEEP FIGHTING MY BROTHER YOU'RE NOT ALONE ♥️💯♥️
He is my Hero. What a loving, courageous man! RIP Larry Kramer.
“In order for non-violence to work, your opponent must have a conscience. The United States has none, has none.” -Stokely Carmichael
If Carmichael were shooting a gun and missed our the gun jammed, I'm sure he wouldn't give up on violence, yet how easily we rule out non-violence...
If that was true MLK wouldn’t have been so effective.
@@CJ-nd9gg He wasn't the one who caused change.
@@CJ-nd9gg in the grand scheme of things, he wasn't that effective. Not to minimise what he and his allies and supporters did achieve, which wasn't completely inconsequential, but if we're being honest, violent movements consistently achieve a lot more - case in point any successful revolution in history - and it's not as though racism has been adequately addressed let alone overcome in America. Of course, the US state is a more formidable opponent than the Tsar or Louis XVI, but as many conflicts in the 20th century showed, it's not an insurmountable obstacle, even despite the fact they have zero compunction about assassinated people like MLK
There is a very common misconception about why or how nonviolence works in the general population. Of course, no one with any power wants to encourage rebellion so we aren't taught about how to rebel effectively, not unless we seek out that knowledge. We are taught that Rosa Parks just decided one day to refuse to give up her seat, and that a movement just spontaneously formed afterwards to boycott Montgommery buses. The truth is that this was planned, Rosa Parks was already a member of the movement who was training for this, and they were ready to go, and that effective boycotts require a lot of planning, they don't just happen. But they don't teach you this at school. Non-violence doesn't rely on an appeal to the opponent's conscience to function. Nonviolence is a strategy that means to coerce an opponent via nonviolent means. The Civil Rights movement won because with well organized boycotts they hit the powerful where it hurts, right in the wallet. When they appealed to conscience, it wasn't the conscience of the police or the government or the racists. They appealed to ordinary citizens. When the media showed black men and women just marching peacefully or going for a swim and being attacked and beaten for it, it was hard to "both sides" it. The racists didn't care, of course, but a lot of ordinary people did, and politicians only support Segregation if it wins them elections. It has nothing to do with their conscience, and everything to do with coercion.
Nonviolence worked against dictators and bigots many times. Research done by Erica Chenoweth and Maria J. Stephan shows that nonviolent movements are far more effective than violent ones. Between 2000 and 2006, 70% of nonviolent campaigns succeeded, five times the success rate for violent ones. Looking back over the 20th century, she found that non-violent campaigns succeeded 53% of the time, compared with 26% for violent resistance. It seems counterintuitive, but it's true.
I have so much admiration for this gentleman, what a speech...
We need him today.
sadly he is no longer with us but we must continue his fighting spirit
And there are those who will listen to this & say...."....but you don't have to be such a potty mouth about it!!"
The ending was very, very true!! If we all don't start working together & stop the division....we're as good as dead!!
I love this clip because it shows the majority of his speech, but I wish they included the "three men in the back who riled me up." I saw another video that showed the argument that happened before he began his speech and the swearing was more than justified. It was necessary to get everyone in the room on the same page.
This guy has a heart !!! 👍🏻
This is the definition of courage.
This man moved mountains in activism. Somebody had to get angry. He did. Loved his community enough to get angry.
He is soooo needed now.
OMG i actually cried while listening to his speech
such a powerful voice.. rip 🖤
He will always be one of my hero’s ❤️
Things never change
Can assume things will change in the future
Still facing a plague, albeit a different one. So much respect for Larry Kramer. RIP.
He was right, he knew it and we didnt listen.
One of the best speeches I've heard highlighting the despair of the communities affected by AIDS and the triple tragedy of a nearly-impossible scientific obstacle, fractured activism, and a heartless American ruling class.
He shut that dude up real fast
Reminder that dr. Brix was bragging about the impeccable reply of the US government to the AIDS epidemic.
Given the context Kramer laid out in his speech, I'd be livid too.
Hero. Love you Larry
Nobody knows what to do next! 😢
He was one of the truest voices besides Cleve Jones who tried to help . RIP
I’m playing his character in the normal heart here soon. Doing a lot of research. I hope I can do this justice.
hi! any updates?
@@minahuston7271update is that I got an award for it and I’m going to a competition for the role! So, I think I was successful :))
how has there not been a statue errected in his honour?
This guy died on my birthday this year. Rip Larry 2020
FrauCHI
RIP LARRY💔🙏🏼
History repeating itself! Sad times we're in!
This man was a prophet ❤️
boy am I feeling this hard in November 2024
I love this man
I was born past the 2000s, and I've never known how terrible the aids epidemic was. It's incredibly chilling seeing this speech today and learning about the extreme neglect the government had and the conservative media's distain and demonizing the crisis. I can only imagine how terrifying it must have been to live with aids is the 80s to 90s, knowing you were stigmatized and the government wanted to pretend like it didn't exist. This was such a passionate and chilling speech.
I wish I knew what the “three gentlemen in the back” asked him to prompt this response!
You can hear it in another clip but audience members were arguing that questions hadn't been answered and they deserved to be heard and then devolved into "what about my free speech" blah blah blah so Larry yelled "Plague!" to get them to sit down and listen
@@DerpinaTheBrave do you perhaps a link to this clip?
@@dividedtime8529 I legit just went back through my watch history for you but I couldn't find it. I believe it was from How To Survive a Plague on Netflix that I saw the full clip? But I honestly can't remember sorry
Can we use this speech for "RACISM"...PLAGUE!!!
Because one terrible incident happens, all of America is racist?
@@kt550 A racist incident, among an identifiable pattern of racist incidents? It's one possible data point that can add to the accumulating body of evidence that in fact all American institutions have historically been and continue to be racist. This is not necessarily the same as saying that all Americans are racist, which is frankly ridiculous - phrasing like "America is racist" entangles the mass of individuals with the institutions and government supposedly representing them, it's a deliberately provocative equivocation.
No. Please Don't. This is far more serious than your never-ending psychological maze..
@@kt550 its not one and you're a lying racist for saying this wrongful thing.
Simp.
Always had alot of respect for Larry Kramer but know that alot of his interactions with Fauci have come back into the public consciousness, that respect has increased. The fact that the two of them have been able to reconcile their differences and move forward is impressive and speaks to both their characters.
That's us again
What an amazing spontaneous expression of righteous rage! I would like a transcript of this speech. Does anyone know how to get one?
If that doesn't just apply to everything happening right now I do think know what does.
History definitely rhymes.
i remember this and alway hurts me that no one listen
His speech is more relevant now for than ever. I was 11 years old when I first saw this. He had my ear then as he did the day he died. I wish more people would listen,see, and feel what is going on with our society right now. We are sick! We are sick of being sick! Sick of sicknesses, racism, and injustice for our fellow Americans.
RIP
This could be current times!!!!
Ooohhhh that last bit there hits 2020 USA like a fkin whopper
Wow I wish I could have heard this in 1991 but I was still a baby. This is eye opening. I feel like every President hasn't really cared. *This president just pins everyone Against each other.
R.I.P..
why was this guy never president
people are stupid.
American hero
AFTER 8 HOURS ANOTHER 1000 DIED ALREADY 😞105557
An honest question: how did all of those people that contracted HIV in the '80s before the invention of the new drugs survive those years in between? Because you do hear a lot of cases of people that became symptomatic in the mid '80s that somehow survived until the new class of drugs, the cocktail if you will, came around in 1996. Was it their genetics or their diet and commitment to health or abstinence... Just curious. Thanks for sharing.
❤❤❤❤❤💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
He was si mad all the time
Wish he could say it to anti vaxx conservatives.
I know he hated them then and today especially.
Trump I hope you’re listening 👂
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Yo who tryna play warzone?
Wrong place
Typical tribe member. Always trying to make things about him.
Well it is about him as well - he contracted HIV. he was positive at the time of this clip. So what's your point?
Unemployment is more important.
Well.... dying from a infectious terminal illness will probably make you permanently unemployed since nobody would want to hire a pile of dead bones...
You were dropped a lot as a baby. I'm sorry you were so badly mistreated.
Tell me your a conservative without telling me your a conservative...
Yikes...
Oh please calm down
Seems like being calm didn't do anything at all. Ten years is a long time to be calm till you've had enough.
him not being calm saved lives. His voice is missed ❤
Look at his little mouth