Brief History of INDIANS in FIJI || Indian History || Documentary
Вставка
- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- More than a third of Fiji's population is Indian by origin. But, how did Indians come to inhabit the islands so far away from Indian shores?
To view more such content, click here • INDIAN PEOPLE in "Maur...
Sources Used:
Ethnic Conflict in Fiji and International Human Rights Law - Ved P. Nanda
Indian Indentured Workers in Fiji - Shiu Prasad
A History of Indian Immigration and Settlement in Fiji - K.L. Gillion
#IndenturedLabour #girmit #colonialism
The evengelist fathers have made Hindus 2nd class citizens in Fiji, Guyana, Trinidad . And they want to teach us tolerance of minorities.
Sir, you are spot on. The coups in Fiji were fully backed by Vatican or affiliated churches that made massive shifts and changes Indians living there. Silmilar pattern in Mauritius too as I gathered from my Mauritius friends but failed rather than being a minor irtitant.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Fijian_coups_d%27%C3%A9tat
There is no inclusiveness in christianity. Peace and love are just on paper, not in practice. Christianity did so much damage to the humanity. Ignorant people believe as if it is a peace loving religion, but it is not as most of them don't know what bible teaches.
@@sankaranthiyagarajan8651o no
Fake news no Fiji Indians left for India to start new life , they went to NZ , Canada , Aust or USA
A very few went back.
N UK
Some did.
As an Indo Fijian this breaks my heart for my ancestors. 😢 Good old Britain …. Caused so much suffering 😢
Modus operandi of the British, everywhere they had a colony.
Didn’t you guys burn widows?
@@user-md8ny2rr7h They did. But for some reason, we're supposed to pretend that never happened and only white people ever did anything bad.
@@user-md8ny2rr7h didn't ancient Britain's practice human sacrifice and live in filthy muck huts 🤭
In Malaya, the British Planters were given land virtually free to plant rubber but Indian sugarcane planters were only accorded land under a lease. When Fijian Ratus refused to extend the lease, Indians were left in quandry. Brits created problems wherever they set foot!
In Malaya we form National plantation land to purchase from british.Anyway this improve 10% wealth for Indian and still surface by ketuanan Melayu.
Indians were never given lands to lease in their own country...what are you talking about..ungrateful dalits? Why blame indigenous Malays and Fijians? Blame King Charles and your Rajas.....plead with them to return you back to India. Maichod!
THEY CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS. WHAT HYPOCRITES!!!!
We do have a very sad history of Fiji Indians yes it's saddened the Life time year's so much cruelty was at that time of the years 😢🙏
Pack and go back to India where you will be happy.
Very sad history of our indian brothers in Fiji ,your struggle is our struggle, I wish freedom for all our people.
The Indians has been shipped also to Suriname by the Dutch colony holders, makes agreement by the British government.. Working for 5years, shiped by Lalla Rookh ship..in the year 1873 it's the girmith story of Baba and Mai...very sad history...
They call it the Girmith time
And many Indians were forced back to go to india. They didn’t leave none of those West Indies countries willingly after toiling for few generations. Indian government Brit or after 1947 never planned to rescue them or punish those black ruled or native ruled racist countries!
The abolishment of slavery from Africa, did not mean the end of slavery, it was just rebranded indentured labour and the slave supply chains changed its sources from Africa to India and business continued as usual. My grandparents arrived from India in Surinam tricked. They were fortunate to land on a coffee plantation. Employment under the dutch colonial masters on a sugar plantation was equal to the death penalty. The Indians that went to both Fiji and Suriname came from the same areas of mostly Uttar Pradesh and Bihar, and we can communicate with each other in bhojpuri.
I am from Suriname and know the whole girmithia story, told by the last generation of the girmithias....
Rubbish, Indians were never captured, chained, shipped and sold off.....stop talking rubbish and playing victim in downplaying the hundreds of years that Africans endured real slavery to all the colonies of Europe's monarchs.
How can one rebrand slavery? Were Indians snatched off beaches and from their villages by blackbirders, chained and shipped to slave markets to be sold of to plantation owners? Identities changed and live in servitude till they die? Stop insulting the real descendants of slaves and do something useful with your lives..crybabies!
Right
Indo Trinidadian here 🇹🇹
I meet many Indo Fijians in San Francisco who are doing well and are glad to have left Fiji behind
Due to greener pastures . Similar to many Indians in the USA that are from India . Bottomline is that we love our Indian brothers and Sisters thus why we have retained our Indian culture but most Fijian Indians living in western countries would consider themselves as Fijians than Indians and rightfully so because they are like the 4th or 5th generation there .
@@shanemad1640 Why still consider themselves Fijians when they are now Indian Americans!
@@willtamani1765 . O iqo Kai-Viti se Kiwi ? My point is in reply to the initial comment that many Kai-India who left Fiji are so happy about it . That comment is from a Indian from India . My point is that we left Fiji because we were looking for greener pastures not because we hate Fiji . Most Kai-India from Fiji will choose Fiji over India any day due to the Fiji culture ingrained in them from 4-5 generations
Very true ❤😊
Very informative..Learnt about Fiji and Indian origin people..Even today, the discrimination persists ! It's, hard to believe..
ua-cam.com/video/CTsCxkPmMsg/v-deo.htmlsi=SGqNjz7bsQ3SMUJ_
Don't blame Fijians but your colonial English masters and Rajas. Better if you all go back to India where you will be happy...it is only $650 Air India one way ticket. Do it instead of crybaby here maichod!!
I am an Indian living in Vancouver Vancouver everything thinks I'm from Fiji. Hell nah kerala all day
On the bright side the British empire collapsed and caste system was abolished among the girmit in Fiji. As bad as the English were I'd argue Indians who practice the caste system are worse as they continue to practice it and oppress other Indians. Fiji Indians have prospered in the U.S., Australia & New Zealand and old shackles of India Caste Supremacists & the British have come off and long gone. So, there was a light at the end of that tunnel, it would have been way worse had Fiji Indians returned to India to be oppressed again by their peers.
I would agree with you on this one
Indians still practicing caste system in Fiji
@@willtamani1765 true the Indians still do . Also British rule didn’t do much in terms of abolishing the caste system.
@@hemanthathirumaran7654 Indians got on the paid contractual Indentured labour program of their own choice. They remained in Fiji and other colonies of their own choice. The native Fijians however blame the British for leaving them in Fiji at independence. These are people who were dalits, abused in their own country and abused by other migrant Indians in Fiji because of caste. It still exists today. What do native Fijians make of this? It's like dealing with a child carrying an abusive history, They have no regard for the environment, our native status or for the future of our country. Sooner or later as an adult, they will abuse you. Instead of choosing migrants to our country, girmits were dumped on our shores. Today they bitterly fight against each other and try to use natives for their own corrupt political ends. As a native Fijian, I just wish the British and Indian govts work out a program to repatriate them all back to India and Pakistan. There are only 300,000 of them which would take two years..Come on Modi, Sunak and Sharif...do something!
@@willtamani1765 Actually it wasn't as straightforward as you think. A lot of the Indians were tricked with false promises and did not know what they were getting themselves into. Saying that the Indians got into indentured labour by choice is like saying that migrant workers who go to the UAE go there by choice. However yes it is stupid that the Indians even in Fiji continue to practise the caste system despite all what they have been through. Where I live in the UK it is more or less the same situation with regards to Pakistanis and Indians. They still continue to practise their class/ caste based attitudes well into the third generation. This is especially evident when they reach middle management in the work place and the way in which they treat their employees. They ironically benefit from the upwards mobility system of the UK but do not reciprocate when they reach to the top. What is especially ironic is their treatment of other minorities particularity black people.
The future looks bleak is so correct....with the new government seems like Fiji is headed backwards again. Cant we all humans live together without race or religion separateing us.
1:53 Notice how young and frail they are. They were tricked with false promises and enslaved on arrival.
Iam in fiji iam living here❤❤❤❤❤
Some one should make movie lie Roots about these people. How they came what they went through and how they persisted.
We had Fijian tenant and his mother also visited us. They spoke with us in Hindi but they didn't look like pure Indian
Hi I am frm Lagalaga Labasa Fiji Islands and this is absolutely 100% true.Thanks for highlighting this topic on this channel.Still there is racial discrimination today as the natives sit idle and loot.
The Indians still manage to thrive.
Thanks for the video may this channel keep growing.🙏
What do you mean Fijians sit idle and loot? Bloody racist ignorant fool..itaukei give their lands for you to lease and thrive...you do not even get that in India or from your masters in fkn England magajinamu. If you do not like it in Fiji then pack yr bags and get out..ungrateful lazy maichod!
Regardless of what you think of native Fijians, it is still their country, and your lot what to control. Hence, the coupes were justified. Furthure more, I have worked alongside some Fijian men in Australia, and I have never found them to be lazy. They are also honest and God fearing people.
Cannot say the same about your lot though.
@@burt3907 Wrong it is not their land. They come from Taqananika somewhere in Africa. See how that works.
@@burt3907know the truth first you crook. Teri maakichoot
@@burt3907 Take a record frm the Fiji corrections service and Fiji Police force...the truth lies there abt the Natives flooded in behind bars.Some disciplined must have gone to foreign whom u may have interacted with.
Banimarama was best FIJIAN PM.
He was best coup arsehole!
Indians in the West Indies and Guyana share the same History.They were from UP and Bihar and share the Bhoj puri language.Indian missionaries were regularly sent from Mother India to continue the Historic customs and language.
Also in Suriname, not only in the West Indies and Guyana, please tell the real story....our Girmith story 1873 shiped by the Lalla Rookh schip to the Dutch colony named Suriname.
The Fijian coup against Indian in Fiji was helped again by the Australia and UK.
And USA under Regan
whites hate us to the core !!!
@willtamani1765
2 seconds ago
Against Indian your sona... were your girmit grandfather captured, locked in chains, forced onto ship, sold in overseas slave markets, forced to work without any rights, wages etc, forced identity change? Indians were contracted labourers moving around the colonies and working for payment. Many returned to India after contract then returned on new contract. They were not slaves and many decided to stay in the colonies because of better living conditions rather than return to the slums of Calcutta...current generation of Indians living in former colonies believe they are victims the girmit system but in reality are victims of their grandparents decisions to seek a better life in a foreign country. Better if current girmit grandchildren apply in mass to Modi to migrate back to India because Fijians certainly do not want civilized racist Dalits in their midst.
@@willtamani1765 Iko lamu sona, boci levu kana ca!
Your history is fake like Lutunasosobo, go weep loser troll!
Stop embarrassing intelligent Itaukei!
Our ancestors were the victims yes but not us. As an indo fijian living in Fiji we don't have any issues with our native fijians we live in peace. Both of our pasts were dark they use to kill and eat each other while we were slaves of the british idiots. We've come a long way from those days don't bring hate and racism. Fiji is our home and we love our fellow fijians ❤ forever Fiji 🇫🇯
Sir Lalasukuna returned swimming after lots of the Fijian were drowned , he reported, so the Indian were brought to save the Fijians from being all drowned
Watch your words u slumdog reject.
Those were Indians who drowned and Fijian villagers saved most of them who cannot swim.
What a joke😂😂
It’s the other way around modri lol
Back in those days our Indian friends were similar to skilled workers/migrant workers like we have today in Australia. They were useful in jobs where locals are uninterested or unskilled at therefore the indenture labourers were critical to the business of supplying sugar cane to Australia & New Zealand at the time.
Under the British Ruling of Fiji before independence, Indo Fijians mainly were sugar cane farmers and on the Fijians side some were in military and other occupancies but not sugar-cane farming lol. The Itaukei people were not lazy like some would make out to be the case. I guess it's fair to say, the mentality of Itaukei at the time, would be like Why should you work for the white men when you have the whole land, forest, river and oceans to fetch food from with the help of the village.
Fiji today is grateful to the contribution of the girmitiyas and their descendants to our economy at large. They are made for business operation and I personally love their mind set and the will to achive the impossible. This is not to say Kaiviti can not do the same, no. Itaukei are very capable bunch when they are put under pressure...
MY MAIN HOPE FOR FIJI: NO MORE COUP and so many more.
No it’s not skilled workers going abroad do not usually drown and die in large numbers , that sounds like indentured workers/ servitude. If the Indian Fijians at the time were considered skilled workers so would the African Americans of USA. Stop trying to big yourself up to make yourself feel better about yourself 😂😂😂.
Christianity drives a wedge between, Hindus are secular we celebrate all
Yet you want to live in a democracy which initially was founded on biblical principles . The freedoms that you are enjoying in the US of A was founded on Biblical values . Can't say the same for BJP's values .
Kaiviti good people learn lot from them namastay
It would be interesting to see how the Indian government in New Delhi look at this situation. Would they consider indo Fijian as Indians . Lots of talk about India 🇮🇳 becoming a global leader.
No. You're Fijians. Only your ethnicity is Indian. Your ancestors were from British India, not the Independent Republic of India. They went before India became independent. After Independence, India stopped being a British colony. You were taken by the British so the British owes you. The Indian government owes you nothing
@@ashroshan5270yea just like the British government owe you nothing the so called British looted India and owe India trillions well those people are dead
Off Course anyone will. !! Fiji Indians are Indians by Race and Fijian by Nationality. India has A Consulate in Fiji and numerous cultural centres.
India gives huge Aids to Fiji.
What the F___ you talking. ? India is still the same India before British and after British. We not demanding anything from India. We not claiming India owes us anything. India is our Mother land. India gives us huge aids in Agriculture, Education ,Medical and Military. India defended us on International forums during our racial Political Crises.
"India owes us nothing? " Who is demanding ?
We are still Indian. That's our Race and Ethnicity. Fijian is our Nationality.
"No. You're Fijians. Only your Ethnicity is Indian." We are still Indians my dear friend. Fijian is our nationality. So is it of The Chinese Europeans and other races.
We have maintained our Culture ,Tradition and Languages. We have maintained Hindu sanctity during Religious Festivals.
Unlike you ghatias who drink alcohol and have sex during Diwali and treat your poor servants like stray dogs.
You are a ghatia Indian to say that to your own race. And i know exactly what kind of person you are. ? Foreign Indians bug you.
British has come and gone. You have come and you too will go for good one day .
Our Mother India will remain the same for us. When Indians were brought in 1878 ,There was an agreement between Indian leaders and the British that Indians in Fiji will be given equal Rights as other races.
Were Those Indentured Labourers from India then Indians or Fijians. ??
Mahatma Gandhi had sent An Indian delegate to Fiji to check on The Indians well being in Fiji. He mentions this in the movie "Gandhi". Watch it. "Go to Fiji and check on the well being of our Indian brothers in Fiji" or words to that effect. Get a video and watch this movie called " Gandhi".
Govts were over throne . Indian PM and Ministers were beaten up in Fiji.
Today no one dare touch us because of India. Anti Indian Thugs are scared of India. Because of India Russia has an Embassy in Fiji and gives weapons to Fiji Military.
United States supports Indians political Rights in Fiji. All because of India.
What you talking.? Ja ja . Kis khet ka muli ho tu ?
@@ashroshan5270
@90sfijikid india gets aid from Britain every year and you reckon they been giving 50million u.s to fiji 😂😂😂 good one.
This makes no sense as how come you are trying to argue the Indians are more victims than the Fijians who had their land and resources stolen AND huge numbers of people imported to replace them? If the British had imported millions of Africans or Pacific Islanders or East Asians into India, would they be OK with allowing them to stay, control the best land and be traders and merchants? Of course not. If anything the Indians should have gone back to India, but no, they want to sit there and pretend that somehow some part of Fiji belongs to them, when the reality is they are just upset that they weren't treated better by the British and didnt give a dam how other groups got mistreated. The British treated the Indians as a separate class in all their colonies whether South Africa, Kenya, the Pacific, Jamaica or elsewhere and the idea that somehow they "deserve" to stay in these colonized lands on lands stolen by the British is absurd.
Wow a video about my ethnic history!!! thank you 2023
5 year penal sanctions were same as slavery, nothing less British made divisions between races essential to maintain a divided nation which was Fijian,Indian,mixed,European. In all government forms race was a essential part of the process of making everyone to be identified by their race rather than country of birth
More than 600,000 people of Indian origin have migrated to other countries,approximately 300,000 live in Fiji
Slavery yr cici, were your girmit grandfather captured, locked in chains, forced onto ship, sold in overseas slave markets, forced to work without any rights, wages etc, forced identity change? Indians were contracted labourers moving around the colonies and working for payment. Many returned to India after contract then returned on new contract. They were not slaves and many decided to stay in the colonies because of better living conditions rather than return to the slums of Calcutta...current generation of Indians living in former colonies believe they are victims the girmit system but in reality are victims of their grandparents decisions to seek a better life in a foreign country. Better if current girmit grandchildren apply in mass to Modi to migrate back to India because Fijians certainly do not want civilized racist Dalits in their midst.
We gotta move On like our four father's did. Is the creators who moved On 😢🙏
I remember Bechu Prasad I met way back when I was in Primary school. He said Gora poora fiji loot Liya.
Compare modi to the British I'll say the British Raj was a fair than modi,s racist India today.
India should occupy Fiji for Indian's like Turkey did it for Turkish in Cyprus
God forbid!
Try it would be a bloodbath the lands is native.
Best if India go to Fiji and take all her people back home.
Indians don't colonize or invade any nation. It's against the Hindu religious beliefs to invade and colonise other countries. Only the British and Americans and Europeans (Christians) and Muslims do that.
@@almckenzie6359 it will take no more then 10 mins..and no one in this world will stop them. Dont open ur hole when head is inside a coconut
Bula brada..
Let's get case on UK.
The invaders and colonialism have sc
😂 Today India Take The money for the family FROM colonial territories not only Fiji how is working law now do your Now I bilive is good to now history.
They came to Guyana 🇬🇾 too....we love our history
Yes we do know who we are. 🙏
I'm reading what y'all wrote here and my God, the racism is palpable...
I'm from Southern Africa but wow, I thought Rhodesia was bad 😂.
Remember the mahatma fellas
INDO-FIJIAN POPULATION IS DROPPING.
The methodist church supporting a military coup truly shows up churches supposedly upholding Biblical truth but really interested in selfish benefit, God loves justice😮
They went to Trinidad
Also a lot of Indian labour's brings to Suriname by ship named Lalla Rookh. 1873 Suriname was a Dutch colony, in 25th November 1975 became independent from Holland.
NICE for shering the history of Fuji
That's not so " far away" how us taken to S America, Guianas
So Neymar can be Fiji Indian and play for Fiji.
Bula. Indo
😂😂
Anout time ALL Indians unite from Native Indians, Aboriginals, Apache, Cherokee, Caribs, West Indians, Tamils, Punjabis, Bengalis, Trinis, Guyanese et al
@willtamani1765
2 seconds ago
Slavery yr cici, were your girmit grandfather captured, locked in chains, forced onto ship, sold in overseas slave markets, forced to work without any rights, wages etc, forced identity change? Indians were contracted labourers moving around the colonies and working for payment. Many returned to India after contract then returned on new contract. They were not slaves and many decided to stay in the colonies because of better living conditions rather than return to the slums of Calcutta...current generation of Indians living in former colonies believe they are victims the girmit system but in reality are victims of their grandparents decisions to seek a better life in a foreign country. Better if current girmit grandchildren apply in mass to Modi to migrate back to India because Fijians certainly do not want civilized racist Dalits in their midst.
@@willtamani1765 hello again lying troll!
Still weeping because the British believe you are pathetic lazy losers?
Quite true, I would agree with you on this one.
Lucky Indian did not pollute our Fiji
100% they did it, be praud they brings also music religions and let me say civilization to Fiji
Our Fiji my arse ! Where did you come from? Did you just appear during the last volcanic eruption. You did come from somewhere. You should consider yourself lucky that the Indians were brought in there to work because you cunts were fucken lazy . If the Indians weren’t there you would still be hanging off the tree’s scratching your arse . Even after all these years you still can’t run your country because you are still uneducated dumb and stupid. Just imagine if the Indians were allowed to run the country it would have been thriving. India itself is a good example, 4th largest economy in the world, 4 th ranked military, one of the largest space programs. So get off your high horse and fix your canoe in case there is a sunami and you have to row away. Meanwhile fix your poverty ( up to 60 %) fix your drug problem. You should compare yourself to Mauritius similar history ,except majority of the population are Indians and the country is thriving.
Yup lucky they didn’t. Instead , they are the top businessmen of Fiji . No matter where they go , Indians end up leading the business sector. I live in a western country and almost every Indian I know are successful people. My children go to a private school and all the top achievers of that school were Indians and Chinese . Indians will survive and are not people who live on handouts . They are leaders , not followers.
@xs absolutely correct!
What would you learn from wild tribe playing with coconuts!!!
Team Fiji India ugly
👇🏾
Indian diaspora around the world cannot lose their Indian citizenship. There is even an Indian government ministry which takes care of this. Also Indians in Fiji should blame their grandparents for signing up to the indentured labor program and they should blame the British and Indian government if they felt hard done by in terms of wages and conditions agreed to. Its true nearly all land are owned by the Fijians and a small share of freehold are owned by rich Indians. Besides, Fiji was the last colony to be merged into the Indentured labour system after the Deed of Cession and last only 37 years. Some current Fiji citizens have been living overseas longer than that. As for Fiji, the current generation Indians do not want to work in the sugar cane fields but look to migrate out of the Fiji to either Australia, New Zealand, Canada etc which is better for the next generation. Many have gone back to India to start over. Also it is a white racist comment to say Bligh discovered Fiji, discounting the existence of Fijians who have been there far longer that 30,000 years as limits of modern historical carbon dating proved.
They were taken advantage of, by the colonialists !!
really, why blame our forefathers who were innocent, tricked & sent in a ship to Fiji by the Brits to work under the slavery, chained, tortured, starved to cultivate the Fijian bushlands, they were pillars of what Fiji is today, otherwise Fiji would have been a bushland, as far as I know most Indians are highly educated so they can migrate to other countries where their skills are recognised, they toil & study hard to become scientists, doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers etc for brighter future, and that is why they have maximum of 2 to 3 children, therefore drop in population & rise in migration
They were tricked. They were told Fiji is nearby in Indian Ocean. That it is a land of milk and honey and gold could be found by the road side.
That they could send money home and make regular trips back home.
The journey took two months. Once there they were enslaved and helpless .
The British were very cunning. The contract was with a subsidiary Co. And they dissolved it after Indenture ship.
Today Indians are enjoying a new constitution . The electoral system is of their choice. The De' Hont method.
No more race riots. Military given powers to protect the nationals.
@@aniltachand2694 I don't think they were tricked..many indentured Indians came from the West Indies to work in Fiji, many went back to India and signed a new contract to come back to Fiji. So these contracts were done voluntarily by them and the Indian Foreign office made sure no abuses were perpetrated on them. The real slaves in Fiji were the Kanaks who were snatched from their islands forcefully and shipped to Australia and some to Fiji to work as slaves in the Copra, Cotton and Sugar plantations before Fiji became a British colony many years later. Their descendants are still in Fiji. Indians are also very lucky to gain Fiji citizenship at independence in 1969 because that was not part of the agreement at the Deed of Session. For Fijians, the British are to blame for the mess they created in Fiji.
@@willtamani1765 What kind of crap are you talking about here? Indian Foreign office made sure there were no abuses perpetrated? You know very well that is a lie, amongst all the Indentured labour countries, Fiji had a highest rate of suicide, particularly within the ships that came from Madras. The amount that came from the west indies was so minuscule to the general population and there was a hindrance at every possibility to return back to India which included paying for your own return ticket or waiting for a "full ship" with all the correct documents. This made it basically impossible to return. It seems that you have an agenda here in painting my forefathers in a negative light and excusing the system which brought us there. Fact is that our contributions and sacrifices to Fiji are now starting to be recognized and appreciated, however there is still a long way to go. There should also be an admission of guilt from Australians and the Gujarati businessmen whom exploit our labour in the private sector even till this day.