Inflation Is Driving Secondhand Markets Out Of Control, Here’s Why | Economics Explained
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- What do old watches and used cars have in common? (Hint: Inflation)
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America is better
My aunt has a men's rolex she's tryna sell if u want to buy it haha
You're Australian. If you want a funny status symbol to celebrate you can buy membership at Rupert Murdoch's country club. The potential upsides are... highly diverse
Now, if only one of your patrons were to gift you a Rolex!
😂
So... after all that you didn't buy a watch? Not tempted to (once the Rolex AD has stopped laughing) nip down the road for a nice Omega/Grand Seiko/a.n.other?
One major factor was left out is that we are seeing global inflation. I saw it in the news that most countries are all competing for parts , products food etc. Even nations that managed their rates better are seeing major issues. The glut of money was an issue sure, but the surging demand from nation that re-opened from covid lockdowns played a larger role. Add to this pandemic-related staffing issues and the intentional global oil supply problems and its a nightmare. I known the intention was to explain inflation but that doesn't do justice to the current inflation on a global scale.
People are working so hard and there is little or nothing to show for it. everybody is basically working to sort out one bill or the other no savings.
Inflation is gradually going to become part of us and due to that fact any money you keep in cash or in a low-interest account declines in value each year. Investing is the only way to make your money grow and unless you have an exceptionally high income, investing is the only way most people will ever have enough money to retire..
That’s why I always make it a point to speak with a financial advisor before making any investments. Apparently, I’ve been using one since the pandemic, using profits oriented tactics and minimizing risks as a buffer against inevitable downtrends.
In addition they have valuable access to insider knowledge and analysis, making failure virtually impossible for them. I’ve made over $1.5million passively investing with Catherine Morrison Evans, my advisor for over three years now.
@@MarkGrimm8 Such a priceless tip. I just discovered her exceptional resume when I made a google research of her full names online. Base on her online resume, she appears knowledgeable and well accredited I drop her a message and book a call session with her! Thanks so much for the information..
"Rolex doesn't sell watches, they sell collections"
So it's just Pokémon cards or Warhammer 40k minis, but for millionaires?
I know you meant that as a joke but you're actually VERY correct
It's also jewelry for men.
Even millionaires and billionaires have collecting hobbies. Expensive hobbies which generally provide other people with jobs in the process.
@@Bonanzaking Correct. I am a middle class watch enthusiast. I will never own an A Lange and Shone watch but I am glad they exist and I have billionaires to thank for that. Almost all great art comes form the rich who pay for great artists. Government art nearly always sucks.
I'm not a millionaire, but I have a couple of Rolex watches in the collection.
The used car market is absolutely insane. Cars with tens of thousands of miles are selling for what they cost new 😂
Im considering selling both my cars and rebuying them a few years newer. I get Fiat Chrysler employee discount at 2% under dealer cost. Might be a nice junk of change.
The Seat Mi would have cost me about 15k new from the store in 2019 after subsidies etc. Now they sell for 19k used. Go figure.
That's great! I've been trying to sell my Lexus 2012 with 80k miles for the past few months.
Especially luxury items exploding in price despite the pandemic is honestly completely logical. Investment assets like real estate or stocks have risen significantly in value through 2020-2021 so while many in the general population might struggle their actual customers actually have more money to spend. Add an ever-present reminder that you could get sick and die any time, especially if you're already old and you have a bunch of rich people eager to spend it, increasing demand.
I’ve seen people trying to get $2k USD for cars without working engines, like what?
Lesson kids: Materialism is an abyss for the soul. You win by not playing the game.
Everyone plays the game to a degree. Like you owning a device to type this comment.
I totally agree. Minimalism is contentment
@@MrOpticBlade Oh, I am not that person, I am just telling folks what the formula is. Like the guy that tells me, "Maybe you should take your own advice." I know the route, but I am not walking on the path. My own worst enemy. And while I am failing, that doesn't detract from the truth.
Another example of this would be me cooking. I get lazy and don't follow recipes and take liberties with the recipes, when a perfectly good recipe exists. The odds of my finished product not being as good as the original is greater than zero, when I simply could have replicated the success of the original recipe. It's not hard to do, I just repeatedly don't do it. So, Materialism is still a dark abyss, and one can win by not playing the game. I just repeatedly fail at not playing the game. Or, rather a Christian knows sin is bad for their relationship with God, but even with reconciliation, is still likely to sin again, for we are not perfect. The answer is simple, but hard to follow.
@@MrOpticBlade Materialism is not simply owning things. Materialism is valuing and prioritizing acquiring and consuming goods. A person owning a device capable of leaving a comment on UA-cam is not evidence of their materialism.
@@MrOpticBlade hate society yet participate in society curious
I hope this process doesn't trickle down to other products. It is basically the most ineffecient way of meeting people needs, overproducing things people will not use
I lived this before.
Its gonna be worse, m8
That's actually a good point, I think we will correct in the future due to what I see is a ton of luxury goods and business booming
Aren't there limitations in any other industries that prevent this trickle down from happening?
You don’t have to worry because almost all firms are profit maximizing.
@Luis Romero
I work for a used car company that has over 150 lots in 12 different states. Covid checks went out, we would sell all of the cars on the lots. Fill up the lots, another check, empty the lots. Result: used cars had a 45% inflation rate in 8 months.
Great comment, thanks for the insight 👍
Is Kelly Blue Book pricing keeping up with the pricing of used cars? Hearing of these mark ups makes me think about sell my 2003 Boxster. Thanks
@@johnl.7754 nah ppl just refuse sale if it's Kelly blue book offer. They want that scam price
@@johnl.7754 Not really but then again, prices are starting to come down so soon blue book/black book pricing should come back to reality.
@@jeffatturbofish How are sales volumes these days? Coming down a bit from the frenzy of 2020/2021?
This video is just one big flex of how he was going to buy a 15k watch
I was gonna say it was more of a hint. Surely one of the MILLION people who subscribed to a channel about money, do in fact have money themselves and can hook an Aussie up
@@yay-cat He's hoping one of his subscribers is an employee at one of these authorized dealers and can put him in the list.
Yes and now his "patrons" know where their donations are going. Straight into his conspicuous consumption toilet.
@@flipperflapperdapper I’m subscribing to his patreon just because you’re whining.
@@flipperflapperdapper people earning money entertaining you isn't bad. There is a lot of work that goes into video production.
Several of the biggest market experts have been voicing their opinions on exactly how awful they think the next downturn would be, and how far equities may have to go, as recession draws closer and inflation continues well above the Fed's 2% objective. I'm trying to build a portfolio of at least $850k by the time I'm 60, therefore I need suggestions on what investments to make.
There are many other interesting stocks in many industries that you might follow. You don't have to act on every forecast, so I'll suggest that you work with a financial advisor who can help you choose the best times to purchase and sell the shares or ETFs you want to acquire.
As for me, I've been in touch with a financial analyst ever since I started my business. Knowing today's culture The challenge is knowing when to purchase or sell when investing in trending stocks, which is pretty simple. On my portfolio, which has grown over $900k in a little over a year, my adviser chooses entry and exit orders.
@@rogerwheelers4322 Do you mind sharing info on the adviser who assisted you? been saving for pension since age 18 - company scheme. along the way I hit higher tax, so I added to my company pension with a SIPP (tax benefits) I'm 50 now and would love to grow my finance more aggressively, there are a few cars I still wish to drive, a few mega holidays.
@@FabioOdelega876 I have ”Colleen Jane Towe” as my investment advisor. She has a solid reputation in her field and is a true genius when it comes to diversified portfolios, which help portfolios be less vulnerable to market downturns. She may be a name you are already familiar with; a Newsweek piece helped me to do so. She's a Google-able person.
@@rogerwheelers4322 She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran a Google search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.
The price of 4 years 2nd hand GPU is higher than the launching price even after adjusted by inflation.
Gotta love Crapto shitcoins
Ex my 5700XT. got it for $420 USD MSRP new, it's going for a used price of $900 USD on eBay right now...
ChipWar.
But like the man said, so is the value of my investments, and they don't take up any space in my house.
Why?
يعد الافتقار إلى الانضباط في التداول هو السبب الرئيسي لخسائر التداول خلال اليوم ، ويُقدر أن ما يقرب من 80-85٪ من المتداولين خلال اليوم ينتهي بهم الأمر بخسارة أموالهم في سوق الأسهم ، كما أن المعاناة من الخسارة هي أيضًا جزء من اللعبة ولكن هذا لا يعني أنه يجب عليك الاستسلام .
من الواضح أن التداول في الأسهم متقلب للغاية ومحفوف بالمخاطر للتداول وهذا هو السبب في أن معظم المستثمرين يتداولون مع وسيط محترف.
@@levibedrero3596 كنت أتطلع إلى استثمار جزء من مدخراتي في سوق الأسهم فقط لا أعرف كيف أبدأ. لست على وشك أن أخسر مدخراتي هاها
@@jameslucasbull3880
الاستثمار مع خبير في هذا المجال هو الأفضل ، فقد كان كسب ما لا يقل عن 19500 دولار كل أسبوعين تجربة غيرت حياتي بفضل الوسيط الذي أتعامل معه. تعلمت بالطريقة الصعبة
مع الوضع الاقتصادي الآن ، يجب على الإنسان أن يستثمر حقًا في بعض العملات الرقمية. لقد كانت مربحة للغاية
لقد كنت أبحث في كل هذا أثناء البحث عن أصل رقمي للاستثمار فيه ووجدت أن الأسهم هي الأكثر ربحًا منهم جميعًا ، وأنا بالتأكيد أرتد عليها
"Crazy rich people with more money than common sense" 😂
And how crazy are people trying desperately to become a crazy rich person just to show how crazy rich you are by displaying status goods? Call me a fuddy duddy old economist with distinct socialist leanings, but I reckon EE should try using commonsense and do something better to celebrate his 1M subscribers.
Oh, and The Theory of the Leisure Class is still a very profitable read.
@John Mateus Nobody should be that rich.
@@lonestarr1490 don't you want it to be the other way around?
Who needs common sense when you have money? Losing 10 mil can't hurt them.
@@plumli4947 funny you mention cos it also works the other way around :)
The irony of that PlayStation line and the announcement today of them selling to customers based on their “PlayStation buying history” is unreal. What a prediction!
wait WHAT
Probably to avoid the scalpers getting their hands on them all to push their prices through the roof.
I come back just to comment about this...
it should be based on the number of their playing hours instead of their buying history. as always, everything in society is made to favor the rich and wealthy.
@@benzpinto this is true because the wealthy have expendable income, and lots of it.
Moral of the story: Stay away from brands. Focus on utility.
(unless you're planning to flip the product for a profit ☺)
I will stick to my $40 Timex. It keeps great time at a reasonable price. Two sons currently in college who will graduate with no debt. Its one's priorities in life.
u hv a i-phone... telling time !!!!!
Nothing wrong with Timex, I have several Omegas and several Timex watches. Timex is stepping it up in the $300-$500 range also. They have some great field watches coming out and they have been going retro with rereleases from the 60's-70's. I wear the Omegas when going somewhere nice, I wear the Timex when I need a watch and don't want to be afraid of getting it damaged and/or stolen.
Watched another video on economics today - one that essentially said that debt is an investment so go in to debt big time!! Not my cuppa, I prefer zero debt, but I do realize that there is an alternate reality out there
Local man has more common sense than money. Many such cases.
You pay $40? I found the one liked years ago at Target .. it's $30 on amazon and I usually buy two at a time (every 3 or 4 years).
Why two? Due to allergies and wrist size, I need a leather wristband. Getting the local store to replace the wristband is more than $30 (15 dollars for the strap, labor charge, sales tax), so once the leather strap wears out/breaks, it's cheaper to toss the watch.
Which, by the way, is why the "right to repair" movement is probably not going to help end users as much as they hope it will.
My wife was part of a training program for a large luxury conglomerate. They were desperate for Chinese speaking sales people and my wife speas two dialect of Chinese as well as Spanish. They had homework as part of the training program and she tried to get me to do the homework for her. I didn't, but I did go through some of the materials to guide her with her projects. Mainly asking questions, organizing ideas, providing some background info, and editing. I did make sure she knew the material.
Luxury is fundamentally not what you need, but what you want. Much like Art, it purpose is to make you feel good (usually). It may make you feel good while using it (like bedsheets) or feel good by enhancing other's perception of you. In this regard, they broke up the "value" of luxury into three groups: extremely high quality, exclusivity, and life experience. This article mainly focuses on exclusivity. The value is in the feeling you get in having something few other people have.
You just copy and pasted an actual article
Conspicuous consumption is basically just throwing money around just because you can and that should supposedly get you a "higher status"... "We live in the society".
I have to agree about dealerships representing brands. I had a terrible experience at a Toyota dealership in my 20s, and now I’m in my forties, I’ve never owed a Toyota. Logically I know Toyota makes excellent cars and trucks, but the dealership experience turned me off so hard, I won’t even consider looking at a new Toyota.
That's why the Tesla model will win. Just order the product for the advertised price and it will be delivered to your door. No psychological games in the finance room, no bs.
@@jooptablet1727 i hope the other manufacturers start doing this
Toyota neither owns or operates those dealerships. If state laws would not get in the way, Toyota would implement the same direct sale model Tesla does. In Japan you customize your cars either online or through a boutique owned by the manufacturer and have them delivered to your home.
Send a complaint to Toyota. They’ll answer and force the dealer to give you an special offer
My Lexus LS is pushing 300k and I’d drive it across the country right now without hesitation.
You didn't talk about inflation other than mentioning people's purchases being driven by the expectation of prices continuously increasing. Am I missing something?
LOL, an economist walks into a Rolex store, gets rejected, goes home and makes a video. Basically what happened here. This is the phase the psychologists call "denial".
Nope. The guy is an inflation doom-monger, it's not a surprise he just throws it into the title.
@@lightsaber7047 yeah other watches aren’t doing this, only Rolex mostly
Amen brother. It’s still technically inflation despite being artificial
@@Zarathustran That's all asset classes right now.
used/new cars: Skyrocketing in price
Houses/apartments: Skyrocketing in price
Computer Parts: Skyrocketing in price
Agricultural equipment: skyrocketing in price
Material Resources( Copper, lumber etc.) Skyrocketing in price
Wages: stagnated since the 1970's
@@NotUp2Much... That isn't good news. Raise minimum wage... that'll make inflation worse. Put price caps, that'll make shortages worse. Universal basic income, more inflation. The important thing is to increase supply and decrease money liquidity. That means stop giving out free money. More people working means more supply, and money starts to be worth something again. Also if people stop taking income for granted, they'll start to save for bad circumstances again, and stop buying so much stuff they don't need, so people who do need it will actually be able to get it (sir investor doesn't need 150 houses, but other folks do need 1).
This makes me think of the GPU market even more than the PS5. It’s not uncommon to see the price of a GPU double or triple from its MSRP on the 2nd hand market. There’s even a market of coders who make bots to try and help you buy these products (and even though they would technically sell as many bots as they want they don’t to increase the chance of their clients getting a card).
That looks more like a classic pump-and-dump than the process of these invitation-only goods: middlemen buy up the whole supply and hoard it to drive up prices, then sell at a profit. Concert tickets were also being attacked before the pandemic.
I paid 880 usd for a 3060ti. Was the cheapest one I could find at the time. Was 440 msrpthat hurt
This is due to supply issues, not intrinsic exclusivity of the GPU themselves. Similar outcome, but very different in how we get to the end point of inflated 2nd hand prices.
if there is 100 people that want PS5 but only 10 PS5 is available, the price can go up indefinitely until only 10 out 100 people can afford it
Some of the MSRP prices were also calculated before the tarriffs came into effect so most of them unless they were released this year are off by 25%
lets go, EE have finally uploaded 2 videos in the same month... please say you are returning to your old levels of video production I have missed them so much
Working on something very special mate! Stay tuned!
@@EconomicsExplained Great, looking forward to it
He's fighting in the Squid Game to win that Rolex man
@@EconomicsExplained Glad my predictions of you using shrinkflation didn’t come true.
@@EconomicsExplained He's got to pay for that watch somehow ;)
These businesses are behaving very similarly to monopolies. Intentionally producing fewer goods while simultaneously increasing price. Very strange considering these luxury goods producers are closer to oligopolies.
I feel that usual good and this luruxy good just have different kind of market and how supply and demand works anyway considering they both have same utility just the differences are in how they are built and priced and how the demand works
Oligopolies can be even worse than monopolies. Harder to break up, for one.
I made a decision years ago to keep my gaming ~3 years behind the curve along with my GPU. This has saved me a ton of money. I really can see this happening in the GPU market. What with NVideia allegedly keeping back cards to keep prices high (this was leaked today from 5 different sources), I'll be Ok with my older cards.
What you're saying about company's keeping back stock is EXACTLY what i'd thought is happening in the world right now. The consumer market has used Covid as an advantage to gain more profit in the long run.
You know it’s a problem when flipping watches is getting discussed on a non-watch channel 😂
I mean this guy worships money anyways, however it is presented. As most of the consoomers. Things won't be like this for long
NAILED IT.
Real horologists don’t even consider Rolex to be in the top echelon. … I went down the rabbit hole one time lol
@@mulliganstew72 most watchmakers are real horologists. Almost all of them will tell you Rolex is one of the best manufactured watches available anywhere in the world.
I flip watches. This comment is amusing :)
Next time when you buy an expensive handbag for your wife, make sure you get one of the classic models instead of the seasonal ones, classics will never go out of date and they usually have significant resell value.
You buy your wife her handbags?
What does she buy for you, pants?
Well, if you do get seasonal one you can't stop becuase the more you have the more they are all worth, I mean would you buy just a seasonal 2019 bag, or a whole seasonal set from 199-2021.
@@jackalenterprisesofohio in general classic models have higher demand, hence higher resale value in my opinion
@@jakethomas1829 maybe I buy because I can
@@EnigmaG touche', she's a lucky lady!
I think a big part of why people would want to go to an authorized dealer for a Rolex would be the certainty of an authentic product. There are some pretty good knockoffs out there. So the person who buys the watch at the dealer would keep meticulous records so they can resale later.
EE: "With more money than common sense."
also EE: wants to buy a $13,000 watch.
My guy, if he can buy it at retail he can triple his investment. Where will you find those returns without soul-crushing risk-induced anxiety.
@Justin Yes, he showed his true vanity, there.
@@phillydoo781 Someone didn't watch the video
Life rule: Never wear a watch that’s worth more than your arm.
Someone migh come with a jigsaw and v:
And your arm is worth ?
@@herykisnen3402
Arms vary in cost between $34,095 and $190,947 according to insurance industry schedules (2020 prices). Depends on whether it is your dominant arm, how much it has been used (age), prior condition, 100% loss or not, pain and suffering incurred during the loss, etc.
😢
@@cloudpoint0 Nice so then I can still wear a Daytona or even a 5990 depending on the insurance!
So we should never wear a watch then ? Lol
Most of us poor people buy $45.00 Timex watches. We still know what the real-time is and we save money we can use to buy Top Ramen. Also, I go to second-hand stores and buy nice-looking shoes and clothes. I look pretty good and the money I saved helped my kids have good healthcare, food, and clothing. That's what I call smart!!
I would have to work much more to buy such stuff. So I decided: my luxury good is time. Spent with my family or on the bike.
I do not envy people who want to buy watches for 5 digit figures.
This should be a top comment.
Is it a luxury bike? Did you have to buy a whole lot of bikes from the bike shop that you didn't want just so they would sell it to you?
@@insane_troll Not really funny...
Those luxury goods are for people with disposable money.
I am not rich and I agree mostly but if I got a position that paid really handsomely, I would buy such things.
Me neither
So, Ford "did not see" John Cena in court
John Xina needed that cash to give to his Communist handlers in order to boost his social credit rating.
Okay, the subject of this video can be: "Resale Markets are going out of control. Here's why."
Inflation is part of it, but that isn't the driving force, right.
Lack of faith in "the system" creates an artificial increased demand on nearly all goods and services, further increasing the costs... Many folks people the system is on the verge of collapse.
@@Anonymous______________ But it's inflating the cost of luxury items. Since production has gone down, businesses still sell what they produce and people save more because they don't spend so much on stuff they don't need. That creates deflation.
I think it might even out a bit. There'll be inflation, but not a catastrophic one as people fear
You almost gave the most salient point at the end: hard luxury assets are the surest refuge from hyperinflation. Whatever the dollar or the shekel is worth 10 years from now, there will likely be people with plenty of them that want a Daytona.
A side note is that the retail prices of these things has also grown at a phenomenal rate over the last few years (e.g. Datejust, RTX 3080).
I strongly suspect that a certain watch UA-camr will likely hook you up with a Panda for the right collaboration. I won't mention the name of the channel since that might conflict with your guidelines but you can find him easily enough if you look.
Thanks for the great content. You deserve all the success (and Daytonas) that your work has brought you.
Not if you have to pay lots of money to buy the luxury asset in demand and retailers restrict resale. Remember, you have to buy a bunch of low-demand products to get the high-demand one. And you can't flip products instantly like John Cena found out. Better off just spending it on an investment with high rate of return. If you horde money, you cause deflation, which means the money supply contracts until only the ultra-rich survive and none of us are Bezos, Musk, or Putin.
Went to Goodwill last week. Felt like they're trying to become a boutique. Prices crazy. 😦
thrift store chic. I can buy a new T shirt cheaper at Walmart.
No kidding! Did he not realize we could go to Ross stores, marshals or TJ Maxx and buy these items brand new? Not to mention you have to like wear your Shabbos clothing to go shopping there because your feet are going to get dirty from their nasty floors and half of the items that they’re asking crazy prices for missing buttons, ripped, pulling/pilling, etc. That said, I will get deep and find the stuff they forget to overprice and it is my biggest guilty pleasure!
I remember the good all days the first year Goodwill came out my mom found a $700 14k gold bracelet with gold trinkets for 5 bucks 😂
more like badwill
St. Vincent is even worse. I recently moved and was looking for furniture, prices there on broken items where selling for the same price as new.
Guys, don't worry - It's transitory, the Fed says so. Just trust them.
I mean, Fed polocy doesn't have much control over the price.of Rolexes, but sure, buddy.
@@zenogias01 My comment is about inflation, and was made in jest. Though you lack an understanding of humor, at least you make up for it with your solid grasp on economics, pal.
I have a Masters in Econ and I don't reasonable see how they can stop or even slow money printing without triggering a great depression.
@@hexadecimal5236 Maybe the world needs a deflationary recession to get the prices of things back in check. They announced a 5.9% COLA today, which is the largest since 1982. I for one think interest rates should be raised to pre-Covid levels ASAP. If the economy can't withstand even those historically low rates, than let the Great Recession Two happen.
@@FlintIronstag23 I’m not an economist, but I think the world is so interconnected financially that if the US goes down, the (developed) world goes down.
And the world’s central bankers are postponing the long term debt cycle recession (or depression) to as much later as possible, or honestly thinking they can actually contain it.
What do you guys think?
Most Rolex haven’t been depreciating from retail, so even if you buy up other less desirable models you’ll be able to flip them after the AD finally gives you your GMT master 2 or whatever.
This year has been especially good for Rolex (new and vintage)
Have you tried? Cause, no, this is not the case. You might see "used" Rolex priced at higher than retail, but that will be at an established and known used-watch seller. If you think you'll recoup the same "profit" (or even break even), you are mistaken.
Same with Chanel handbags.
Factually incorrect.
@@English2Elvish ok then how come, if you buy 7 calatravas each losing about 2k (or even if we're being quite pessimistic 5k), you can be reasonably sure you'll get a 5167 or 5168 worth about 60-80k in profit.
There is also another reason. If prices rise due to high demand they also must fall as demand falls. No luxury brand wants to be seen lowering prices and thus admitting that there goods are not the ultimate in demand product. In the long run watch demand will fall, people simply have no use for a mechanical watch and the current craze is in fact a fashion/fad. ROLEX is not interested in the next quarters earnings they are interested in the next 50 years..
That's actually the real reason. These companies don't really care about short term gains, but branding value over time.
This is absolutely not a fashion or a fad - mechanical watches have already been through the biggest existential crisis possible already when vastly cheaper, more accurate Quartz watches were introduced in the 70s. For a supposedly obsolete product they haven’t just survived since then - they’ve thrived. Nobody buys a mechanical watch simply to tell the time - they are objects of passion, beauty, obsession…a rational purchase they are not!
@@dominicrusho if you think about it, every alternative to a mechanical watch gets a better replacement (watch with hands moved by battery -> digital display watch -> smartwatch -> ??? who knows what next)
but the mechanical watch is completely outside of this race and just remains on its own, I can't afford luxury but I do have a ~$300 titanium casing sapphire glass genuine leather strap 14-jewel self-winding mechanical watch and a winder machine, the feeling of knowing that it will work for decades with barely any wear and tear is marvelous
@@dominicrusho Well, I buy mechanical watches because I'm trying to rely as less as possible on batteries. Especially those that cannot be recharged and need to be exchanged. And of those especially those I cannot exchange myself. I hate running out of battery.
@@lonestarr1490 Eco-Drive?
Inflation isn't just driving secondhand markets out of control they're driving cost of basic survival and living out of control
Sony selling ps5s to customers with a long history to the brand is already a thing. My friend and I both got sent personal links from Sony to buy the PS5 because we have been PlayStation plus subscribers for almost a decade
So you have a PS5? Or did you sell it
Wow really?
It only makes sense to market to the folks most likely to purchase your product. I believe that's called, return on investment.
The ps5 has production issues. Ultimately if Sony could sell 7 billion ps5's they do it with a smile on their face.
@@supermarx 7 billion. Ikr
I'm getting strong lootbox/booster pack vibes here. "Get 10 commons bundled with the 1 rare you actually want! The commons will collect dust, but you want that rare, right?"
Edit: also, as a gamer I feel the need to clarify the PS5 exclusivity situation. It's still slimy, but actually different from this phenomenon. For video games systems, the games themselves actually have primary utility, while consoles serve to facilitate them. The bulk of the money is made in software not by an anti-consumer contrivance, but because the games are the thing people actually want. The reason the order got flipped this time (games first, then consoles) is that Sony wanted to make more money from a console experiencing an unexpected shortage, so they prioritized getting them to the more avid spenders who would be expected to buy more games for them. But if they could just stock more consoles, then that wouldn't drop the sale of games the way an expansion of "exclusive" stock would drop the sale of "lesser" luxury goods.
The rich man's booster packs
Except the commons are still Rolexes
@@lightsaber7047 Do you mean that in the sense of "that's a huge waste on the commons" (which it is) or in the sense of "they're still Rolex, so they're valuable" (which they aren't, because you will only ever show off one of them)?
I mean gamers and rich people are people, we still have our irrational behaviors and logical fallacies. That's why it's not useless to learn about one since it applies to others, if you can switch things around in your mind
The problem with luxury watch brands is that they cannot support the huge rise in demand over the last years. They themselves lack enough watchmakers (that is the case of Patek Philippe, earlier this year they said that this was the case for them and that it takes 20 years in total - including their own schooling - to be able to make watches for them). Rolex surprisingly came out with a statement about a month ago where they said that they couldn’t meet demand even for lower end watches because of supply chain problems.
So much like the loot chest concept. Buy a whole pack of common, uncommon and a chance to get a few rare ones.
So the "End use" of the product is as a status symbol. So that you can wear this watch and other rich people will know you're one of them and can be trusted. basically it's like an upper-class decoder ring.
Exactly.
I don't think a whole lot of rich people are knowledgable about luxury items though. Especially the world's richest... Or do you think Mark Zuckerberg knows about different Rolex models? Well at least he probably knows who owns them
@@orvvro of course he knows about the rolex models. You are drunk
@@sigerian1085 source: trust me bro.
@@orvvro The point is EVERYONE knows about Rolex. That's why they ALL have a premium! You can get ANY model from a Rolex AD and enjoy similar mark up in price. EE just used the Panda is an example because it's the most extreme.
And yes, Rolex is a call-card.
I love this. No one ever talks about this very odd but obviously visible market pricing effect.
“Having less stuff is the key to Happiness “.
#truefacts
A lot of people think they should always be buying and selling something. That’s a mistake. 99% of successful investing is waiting, learning and getting extremely lucky with the market.
If you are not conversant with the markets, I'd advise you get some kind advice or assistance from a financial consultant or Investment coach. That’s the most ideal way to jump into the market these days because these whales don't care if you get hurt.
@@emilyfranklin8190 There is a famous character Samantha Leigh Wentland. She has been making a fortune for a select few for years now. Lately, such services have appeared that allow copying the results of experts. This person demonstrates how to copy her automatically using such a service. We gotta try while the mark.
@@Jme--- interesting.. please can you share her reach details
@@marksway7292 She is well known for what she does, when you search her name on your browser, her web site is like the first thing that pops up. On there you can shoot her a mail or text.
You were doing well with your statement until you said "and getting extremely lucky". Successful investing is not gambling. There is not luck involved.
The type of Daytona you buy is critical for value, make sure to get de model pre 2003 when the two chronograph dials are aligned with the numbers 3 and 9. Just in case you decide to treat yourself.
I believe you're referring to the 16520 Zenith Daytona, which is actually pre-2000. Agree with the sentiment though.
Or you can be real lucky and get the on Paul Newman owned.
One time one of the actual winners of the Daytona race, Jim Normon, took his Rolex Daytona (all winners get a Rolex Daytona) to a Tampa dealer to get a link taken out. The dealer told him his watch was fake (it wasn't), even though the watch had been presented to Normon by the President of Rolex.
When you spend money like this, you become the brand's patron. You get previews, early access, and can give feedback on designs.
Imagine being so rich that you have to ditch basic math skills to show off how rich you are.
really rich people wear a cisco g-shock costing us$34.00...they don't need to tell everybody how rich they r wearing a daytona n carrying a prada wallet.
There's a point where you're so rich you literally can't spend money fast enough to impact your cash flow. This video is talking about those people, basically.
@@ifuknjk Nah, they just buy overprices t-shirts that cost $500 each while looking like something you can buy in the Gap (lookin' at you, Zuckerberg).
@@zenogias01 That's not always true though. Rich people are often unnecessarily competitive types, and they get jealous of other rich people. They might have a ton of money and yet spend more than they can truly afford on these collections
@@ReasonableRadio Yeah, I forgot the addendum: . . .as long as they manage their money halfway decently (a.k.a. have decent accountants and listen to them).
Now I know how to pronounce all the names of these "elite" companies - at least in Australianese.
Yep, definitely a rolex
when u retire after 60 years u get a sekio
How timely. eBay just sent me a notification that my discontinued favorite eyeliner of all time was on selling for $58.99. We’re talking about an eyeliner pencil!
Meanwhile, eBay has thousands of used shoes, belts, shirts, coats, and other apparel for sale. The top 10% worries about Rolex availability. Everyone else has to worry about necessities. I stopped wearing watches when cell phones started telling time.
Same here, wearing a watch these days is ridiculous
@@Sabadiver Not really if you're a busier person or can't have a smartphone on you at all times. Also it's just convenient tilting your wrist to see the time.
Us top 10% aren't worried about people like you
my watch battery is solar powered. my phone battery practically dies twice every day. not the same.
Actually i started to wesr watches again because i try to limit my time on the phone and i dobt take it with me at all.
You can make a decent living buying/selling limited supply products, a great example are cars or paintings. You just need to be very familiar with your subject and always keep an eye on production numbers.
After watching this and going through the comments, I must say... and I've been following a long time, from zero to hero, that LOL this is how everyone reacts when they get to this point. Congrats
Get yourself a Casio 91-W like a real economist. Oh wait, those watches even re inflated and I can't but them in bulk on eBay for $1 each. 😌
Why were you bulk buying them for $1 each in the first place?
0:55 there's a problem. 12k-15k isn't the 1/4th salary of an American. The median wage according to BLS (all workers included) is 34,000 USD :)
Hmm, you seem to be correct. That's a 2018 stat but seems to hold up. It's about $35-36k right now. Seems I was also incorrect as I was also under the impression that median wages were around the $50k mark. Median household wages are closer to $70k but that's not individual. Average wages, however in the 50-60k range. Those CEOs and whatnot are pumping the numbers up!
What's depressing is that median wages haven't budged even a little in 50 years in the US if inflation is taken into account.
@@LiveType wow! This is worse than I thought Sheesh
@@LiveType THis is super missleading. AMerican salaries are massively reliant on tips in many industries. THey are not poor.
@@LiveType I know that, it's also depressing in Europe ;) I am from France and our median wage is 1800 Euros per month (according to our biggest statistics collecting agency) and the average is 2300 euros per month, but our gap between the median and the average is not as high as it in the US. Also, while our salaries are low and our GDP per capita is almost 50% of that of the US, life is more comfortable for the poor and the lower middle class because of the income distribution (GINI) and our health system, education system and the minimum wage. In the US, it seems that you will have a lot more money in net terms but then you will spend it on student loans and healthcare. When I used to live in the US, we had a big problem with this, my mom had to pay a huge sum for her child delivery and hopefully, my dad worked at a big tech company so he had GOOD-quality insurance that covered 100% of the injuries. Also, correct me but I have read that the BLS says that the AVERAGE household wages are 65000 USD? I don't know how median can be higher
@@Snook_ Workers who earn at least $30 in tips must be paid at least 2.13 USD per hour and if their monthly income at the end is less than 7.25% per hour, they must be paid the difference. Average tipping rate in the US is around 17%-20%, please do the maths
Everytime i hear about a product so exclusive that they are for sale but you cant buy it unless you are part of a theoretical group that does not exist i always think about money laundering. They sell them, but to no one in particular.
Amy plans to respond to Money and Macro? Love both your videos and debates always helps people like me (noobs) learn
Same reason art becomes valuable shortly after the artist dies: It's a great way to launder money without letting anyone who isn't "in on it" get a piece of the action.
Reminds me of that picture banksy's made go through a shredder after it was auctioned off increasing it's value
That Bugatti is owned by a Hollywood Shoe Store, and yes those shoes are expensive.
Great video, thanks! I learned something today - you're a smart (and very utilitarian sensible) guy.
"The Business Model of Luxury Companies" - would have been a great title for this most informative video
I’m glad that one byproduct of this is that people now value second hand cars more when modern cars have a lot of useful life left in them still when they become dirt cheap and therefore abused and discarded in the past.
Hey there Economics Explained:
We could use a detailed episode about Supply Chain catastrophe.
The No.1 rule in Business ( as any drug dealer would know) is controlling the means of distribution. You control the means of distribution, that equates to higher profits, as YOU determine who your clientele will be. That is essentially what the big brands the doing.They limit the amount of product, which allows them to dictate who the potential client may be. So, not only is the product going to be offered to the wealthy, but those with social status as well, as those people will also be indirectly marketing you’re goods by using them in public.
Essentially, there's no difference between expensive watches and tulip bulbs.
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Change my mind
I think deer will be attracted to your yard to eat tulip bulbs.
ironically that watch at 4:48. which isn't even mentioned "JLC master compressor chronograph" is probably my favorite and extremely extremely under valued
Except for the Cellini, all of the Rolex models you showed would make you a profit even if it isn’t as much as the Daytona would make you.
The lidl shoes realy do prove a lot of your points
What’s crazy about this is that I watched it yesterday and today I saw on IG that Sony announced it would be taking registRations to buy ps5s that’s based on “previous interests and PlayStation activities”. What a call.
That's why I'm not playing games.
Australian economics man, can you do a video on lock downs impact on economy? Like Australia is particularly aggressive.
Only Melbourne and Sydney really, the rest of Australia basically has no lockdowns at all. The problem is you can't travel freely within the country so families are seperated with no ways to reunite. Soon it will be easier to travel from Sydney to London than Sydney to Perth.
It is crazy there.
Very interesting... Good to learn that luxury goods have their own economics!
A Watchfinder/EE crossover episode. This truly is the strangest timeline
So what's the cost of living in space with the way inflation is going
Free because Nasa will be forced to supply you at gunpoint.
Brittle bones
Sky high.
Out of this world.
Proof that ur doing a great job is that I’m studying your style of presenting and transitions between segments to improve my own presentations for Engineering academy. Love ya mate
Well presented and pretty accurate! The main advice is to be loyal to one retailer and he will reward you along the watch collecting journey. And buy what you like, don´t buy 10 wathes just to get that one steel sports watch, you probably don´t want it that bad.
lol I'm subscribed to you.
@@phillydoo781 Haha nice! :)
Congrats on 1 million.
...just a shame you couldn't get yourself your reward.
You earned it.
Patek Phillipe's 8 year waitlist: "Amateurs"
Hey... their tagline is
"You never buy Patek Phillipe, you get it from your grandfather."
@@Dominus_Potatus no
@@Dominus_Potatus he didn't even have kids when he got on the wait list...
This Rolex example is terrible, and have nothing to do with inflation.
Rolex has been artificially increasing the value of their watches for years by making limited supplies.
I wouldn't call it artificial, as people in reality are lining up around corners to pay these prices. People with millions of dollars lining up around corners.
love all the watchmaker and co clips you used 😂 as well as your knowledge of cars, watches and cars seem to run in simar circles
Most action figures I buy, I have to pre-order wayyy in advance (I'm talking mostly high-end 1/12 scale) and they basically are worth more than I pay for them the day they release or a month after (even if I've opened them a lot of the time). I've been able to almost have a self sustaining ecosystem of selling the older ones for way more than I paid later down the road to pay for the newer ones.
These items are mostly used in private auctions to dodge taxed when transferring money internationally.
Just yesterday my hands started to shake ..thank god for an upload !
Thanks upside down money man!
This reminds me of buying character skins in gatcha games...
I would never do that. (Lying)
This is surprisingly similar to a more main stream market of Magic: The Gathering or other collector's items.
The auto dealership analogy to watches works well, however almost every single Rolex is above retail price on the secondary market. If you were able to buy any Rolex from an AD, you almost immediately have profit
The only inflation I like is the furry kind
wait
lol
Found this channel a few weeks ago. Every single video is just amazing, well done!
Hey EE, this is a disingenuous video title: "Inflation Is Driving Secondhand Markets Out Of Control. Here’s Why." The phenomena being discussed has only a tangential relationship to inflation. Methinks you're on the inflation hysteria bandwagon for the clicks. Interesting video yes, appropriate title no.
He has been for months, it’s pretty sad
Welcome to the only way to grow on youtube man. Its just the way humans work.
Watch price hikes and rare car price hikes have been directly related to inflation. These secondary price climbs happened in direct relation to the recent inflation of Luxury goods during Covid.
Pay attention to the markets and his videos will make sense.
@@jeckwhite9099 I pay attention to the markets for a living, so, err, thanks for the tip...
Regardless of the relationship between inflation and luxury goods (and this is complex), the video as recorded is simply not about inflation. Therefore having inflation as the subject in the title is disingenuous and clickbaity.
EE's videos are generally good introductions; this video is a good introduction to the luxury goods market.
However, of late, he has had a tendancy to sensationalise and overstate, which is becoming off-putting.
@@jw-mu6be I don’t know who you’re trying to convince. But nobody believes you.
Please don't put ads in the middle of a video, it really interrupts thought process and concentration. Other than that, awesome work!
There are a few problems with the video, although I mostly agree. The idea that rolex uses sports models to push less desirable models is true until you realise that there isnt a single model that goes below retail. Lets take a basic Datejust, that will go about 1-2k above retail. rolex ADs will push other brands, thus losing rolex potential profit or you will be put on a "wait/wish-list" again not really beneficial to rolex or the AD. No, the reason these watches are so elusive is because the brands want them to be, to preserve their own image. In part brands like Patek or FP Journe physically can't produce more watches due to their complexity. While it is true that if you spend hundreds of thousands at an AD you will usually get what you want, this ignores the case that sometimes people with no order history come in and buy what they want, however insane that may sound. If there is an illogical system it is this. It's not even close to market equilibrium. Again, an example would be ADs telling you to buy 7 calatravas essentially for an aquanaut. That means a loss of about 1-2k per watch but with the aquanaut going for 60k and even 120k for certain models over retail, it is quite clear that there is no equilibrium.
Additionally, the fact of the matter is watches have actually outperformed every single asset class. This is just a fact that completely disqualifies what was said in the latter part of the video. The money would not "have been making more money". Yes, the watch market is that insane. To be the bearer of bad news, if you were told or promised to be put on some sort of list for a daytona or even most sports models, the 10 year number is a lie. You just will never get the piece, simple as that.
I'm amazed that Apple wasn't mentioned anywhere in this video.
In most cases i think authorized dealers sell the items to friends and share the profits
Wooow this was so informative, as an Economics graduate I never had this persective. This video has opened a whole new way of understanding luxury goods, I'm doing more research into this especially now that PS5 has become an exclusive luxury good
Everytime I watch these videos it makes a little bit more sense to me why I have savings despite making median wage while people earning twice as much or more than me have debts greater than a years salary 😂
Apparently income has a negative affect on budgetting.
Keep those habits even if you make more money; it pays off. My wife and I went from poorish students at a state college to relatively well paid professionals and we still drive 12+ year old Hondas and eat store brand spaghetti.
And some people act like it's bad that we're not "enjoying our money", but that's subjective. I like my car. I like that spaghetti. I like going to the library to pick out a movie or a book. I like cooking meals at home. I like thrift shopping.
@@shawniscoolerthanyou I have a lot of pride in my old cars because I rebuilt then and maintain them myself :)
Yeah a 2002 isn't "vintage" but it was cheap xD
Congrats on 1,000,000 subscribers.
Perfect market for a pusher or middleman.
I imagine it’s going on at some scale now with the shortages
this video is so eye opening, thanks.