Aristotle, Plato & Iqbal | Junaid Akram Clips
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- Aristotle, Plato, and Iqbal were philosophers who lived in different times and places, but they shared some common ideas and philosophical beliefs. One of the main commonalities in their philosophy is their belief in the importance of reason and knowledge in the pursuit of truth and wisdom. They all believed that human beings have the capacity to reason and that knowledge is essential for human flourishing. They also shared a belief in the existence of a transcendent reality beyond the material world and the importance of ethical and moral values in human life. Another commonality is their emphasis on the role of education in the development of the individual and society. For all three philosophers, education was not just about acquiring knowledge, but also about developing virtues and becoming a better person. These commonalities in philosophy reflect a deep understanding of the human condition and a shared commitment to the pursuit of knowledge, wisdom, and ethical values.
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Iqbal was plagiarism pro max .
'' Imspired " by Niezche 😂😂😂
What a intellectual person he is❤️
Power kay bina sub idea khoklay hotay hein❤️ man really i had goosebumps 🙏
"Power k bgher koi bhi idea khokhla hota hy" 🖋
Stephen Hawk of Pakistan.....!
In my opinion after deep listening of Muzammil sb
The problem with individualism is, that it knows no end. It can ultimately lead to anarchy. Since it’s a relatively newer concept, I don’t think we’ve seen the ultimate destruction it’s capable of bringing (although I hope it doesn’t get to that, wishful thinking perhaps). Collectivism, on the other hand, as endorsed by eastern philosophy, has had it’s fair share of governance since time immemorial. It may not be palatable in our “post-modern society”, but at least it gives a clear set of ideals that one may adhere to, which obviously prevents anarchy. A good balance between the two perhaps?
nationalism and a sense of 'superitority complex' it entails, are the dividends of individualism.
@@bilal59446 Who says that’s necessarily a good thing? In my opinion, nationalism is still better than the absolute anarchy, which individualism is capable of bringing. It can lead to a slow, but painful societal death. Societies that endorse an absolute individualistic ideal are also some of the worst afflicted with loneliness, negative birth rates, depression that also end up im suicide.
@@Matthehousecat word man, word.
What is absolute anarchy though ? I believe, even after democracy prevailing, and nation states taking place, wars and multiple regional instabilities are still there. Anarchy is still there. U blame zia or musharaf all u want but it was also the US that wanted those wars, their hands are as dirsty as ours when it comes to that.
I am a 90s' kid, and before even turning 30, I have already witnessed, some really messed up wars in this world. and those wars were fabricated democratically, fought to "preserve freedom, democracy and our way of life" as every US president puts it in their so called patriotic speeches. individualism gave them good lives, at the expense of exploitation of others. More on this subject, Bertrand Russell really criticizes the attitude of the west when it comes to colonial and post-colonial benefits.
@@bilal59446 Firstly, individualism is literally defined as having more individual freedoms that may or may not please the state or other people. It creates this bubble in which each person can live without being questioned by anyone around them. That sounds too good to be true, because in theory, it’s possibly a perfect way of living. But is it sustainable? That’s self explanatory. Somewhere along the line, your actions might piss some people off, and they would have the “individual” authority to execute their rights, that may supersede your individualistic rights. Many people may get hurt along the way, the innocent bystanders, and the families of this individual person would be affected to, their friends, and pretty much the society. See where I’m going with this? What would you call that? Anarchy. That’s where a state of absolute anarchy may occur, where the state or any person of elected authority may not have policing rights over the individuals, since that would conflict with their individual rights. There would be no more “objective morality”, since morality would be solely based on “what an individual thinks is right and wrong”. That’s literally where the world is going. The alternative would be collectivism, but that’s been given a bad reputation since the west equates it with theocracies and communism when that’s really not the case. A ruling such as “prohibition of alcohol”, many might not like, but in reality would have better outcomes for the society and literally nobody can deny that. A prohibition on infidelity and adultery may piss individuals off, but wouldn’t that save millions of marriages and therefore help with the situation of prevalent depression, loneliness and crime committed by individuals of single parent homes? I mean, ofcourse I also advocate for individualistic rights, but there should be a balance, and every country or nation state should have full rights in determining where to draw a line. Lastly, I don’t necessarily blame anyone for anything, all societies go through a rough patch every few decades, but you’re right, as Bertrand Russell would suggest, we’re living in a post colonial mindset. I’m not sure if you listened to the full podcast, but Muzammil reeks of post colonialism, and gives too much attention to newer concepts and ideals formed in the modern and post modern era, and completely shuns collectivistic ideals that have existed in this part of the world since time immemorial. What people fail to understand is, in order to be happy, love, family and traditions are the most important things regardless of one’s religious or cultural affiliations, we as human beings are conditioned that way.
There’s no other animal on the planet that would ever be happy with living in a small box, without a mate and with limited food and water (this last paragraph should suggest you the countries I’m referring to).
Evry society should have everything in required proportion, individualism and collectivinism
I am here being an inefficient man on this forum. Happy to see our talent of our youth; disappointed to see the numbers of subscribers and viewership; Just hoping to see more and more viewership from Pakistani youngsters.
You may agree or disagree with narratives of Muzammil but you will always see a good representation of narratives of many sides.
How? He hasn't read any of the 3.
The number of sweeping statements made by this guy regarding a vast array of topics is just hilarious.
From misconceptions regarding evolutionary psychology to generalizing western thought as wholly individualistic to Iqbal's idea of 'the complete man', the list goes on and on.
You have no idea how refreshing it is to see that there still are people who THINK ! Glad to see you were not smitten by the him as all gora-complexed pakistanis, always after all who speak mutated english-urdu language.
@@OwaiseAli I wanted to post a lengthy comment (like an essay) analyzing these superficial claims one by one, but such a thing would be too long for a youtube comment.
@@abdullahzafar2942 Yup agreed and most wont comprehend, they'd rather be LED to believe never actually strive to seek truth themselves. Be glad that you remained alive in this zombie land really be glad it is indeed a blessing!
p.s. did you notice this 'intellectual' tells us an analogy of doc & sweets shop and attributes it to his 'western learning' but fails to see that Iqbal said it long time ago in Farsi:
ما چو طفلان و زمانه شکر فروش
Iqbal calls Rumi his mentor and many like Rumi for centuries have had the idea of Saalik, the ideal person but this guy is so enamoured with everything white that he wants to label everything Iqbal ever said inspired by Neitzsche. Sad thing is most will take his word for it and hence be among the ' Blind leading the blind ' .....
@@OwaiseAli But hes not thinking. he's just name dropping.
5:20 this is determined by previous births vasanas accumulated by previous karma as per Dharmic philosophy.
Muzzamil you should learn about seerat un nabi and through this you will know the reality ....dont let the Hope...
The Only thing beyond my Acceptance that Indian Philosophy is for mass....!! Here are A list of Philosophies of having one main Holding pearl and each thread has a different shade.
He hasn't read any of these three yet he is considered a philosopher in Pakistan just because he name drops the philosophers.
First duty if everyone done it's duty don'ts need to fight for rights Indian philosophy
To be honest Iqbal was a religious fanatic. I can understand why Pakistanis like him because he was a religious ideologue of your state but he does not belong anywhere in the discussion of philosophers.
I don't support the idea of Iqbal stealing the concept of Nietzsche because Iqbal himself said that he introduced the idea of "Mard e Momin" before studying Nietzsche
Oh what about 600 years of ottoman empire , ghar ka bhedi lanka dhaya 😢
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Make a video about the negativities of the west too, these guys always turn blind eyes toward western cons. All I ever see is one sided opinion on his channel. My 2 years experience of studying in US taught me that American society is a materialistic , very confused, glammy and gloomy society at the same time that is slowly and surely destined to doom due to so many reasons.
And Pakistan is destined to glow😅 OMG 😂
@@niceguy2568 who said that?
Some reasons😅
@@alyabdin9632 want me to list them?
@@adeelahmed1731 Yeah go ahead, Its a social platform you can not just throw ideas around without backing them with self explanatory facts, I will be rather happy to know your side of the story
Where in history is it mentioned that Socrates did not exist? Absurd statement not expected
Iqbal was plagiarism pro max .
'' Imspired " by Niezche 😂😂😂
Power>truth
Stray reflection
Iqbal
Bhai thora boht iqbal ko hi prh lete aur Quran is philosophical book as well lekin religion ki wajah se religious book...mein dekh rha hoon k pakistani kuch zyada hi philosopher hein.comments mein dikhayi de rha ha ....phle muslim word ki to philosophy smj lo
Putting plato and Aristotel in the same sentence is a tauheen to both them especially when Iqbal is in that sentence
Why so? Sanjay, he was a great poet and an intellectual of India, as we've heard from lots
@@niceguy2568 No he is not....iqbal is not a big poet...for god sake we have a Nobel prize winning poet in India...
Only Islamic Teaching is best philosphy in the whole world
@Pakistani Newton Average coconut (white on inside , brown on outside ) your comment is the epitome of this 🤓 emoji
Brother, it's not productive to bring up Islam in every conversation. Let's focus on the topic at hand instead.
@@PakistaniNewton-cc6zt K*fir
@@PakistaniNewton-cc6zt None of us believe that you paj33t larping as pakistani.
Thats the Thing they are Talking. In Afghanistan islamic philosophy is implemented but nobody wants to go there. In reality islamic philosophy is a desaster it will only destroy the peace of the world.
Is banday ko kion bulaya Junaid bhai bekar admi
Tujhe bula len phir twinkle twinkle?
@@AmmoBloke hahahaha
Both are too much negetive minded about their Own country.
Well it's a bankrupt state, started four wars, promoted terror!sm and discrimination, and u want them to say positive things wow
That’s why they are patriots
Patriotic People always pointed negative of country to embrace positivity.
@@SantoshKumar-ju4rn no they are not. there is no such thing as patriotism. a certain piece of land is as good as long as the situation there is feasible. if the grass in ur country (geographical cage in the zoo of humans) dries up, I am more than certain, you will pack up and search for greener pastures. that's the way it is. nationalism, patriotism, false pretense, thinking urself as superior, are all inventions of post colonial imperialism, stemming from the insecurities of western nations (reflecting individualism) towards the east, or dare I say, in their view, towards less civilized people.
Times never remain the same mate.
That's the Actual Reality. The Things we don't realise but exist in our Society. To deny this it is called hypocrisy.
Inferiority complex at its best
Bakwas kr Raha hai
Ap kardo theek baat phir?
@@FarazYousuf ywr ek baat bta, ye kon log hn?😅
Alama Iqbal grandfather was a Kashmiri Hindu Brahmin his surname was SAPRU and his NANEE maternal grandmother was a Sikh Iqbal use to meet her after midnight to fool his Muslim supporters he was a " NAYA NAYA MUSALMAAN JAYDA ALLAH ALLAH BOLE "
Completely irrelevant and probably corrupt information. Unfortunately Indian Hindus have been too much brainwashed into believing the Hindu propaganda about Sub Continents history.
Apko Islam ki smjh Hoti tou yeh chuss kbhi na marte copy pasted from Whatsapp university of andhbhakts ....
Islam main aapky parents Hindu thy Muslim thy ya atheist es Sy aapky "amaal/practices", ka koi Lena Dena nhi hota ....
99% of Indian subcontinent Muslims are Hindus converted to Islam forcefully to save their women families 👪 or to get freebies Jagirs Muslim looters invaders from Arabia Central Asia Persia and later Afghanistan from time to time in history latest example is - As per Aurenzeb nama Aurenzeb had fixed a price Rs 4 /- per MALE and Rs 2/- per FEMALE members of the family 👪 to convert to Islam he had ordered to convert 10000 Brahmins every day into Islam forcefully and other Artisan castes use to follow them and they had given them Arabian Persian surnames equivalent to their Hindu caste surnames like Brahmins were given tittle SYED , Agricultural labour's Saini Kamboh were given tittle Arai , kummar ( Potters) per given tittle Rehmani , Lohar Darkhan ( Carpenter) were given tittle Safi , Weavers were given tittle Julaha business communities were given tittle Sheikh etc .
ALama iqbal 's milli Tarana was best thing I have ever heard of , chino Arab hamara , Sara jaha hamara .
Para mar