1951 Oldsmobile 98 deluxe 4 door sedan, ROCKET V8 POWER
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Today on what it’s like it’s 1951 and this was one of the top contenders Oldsmobile offered in 51 really cool episode comparisons commercials specs history all the stuff we dig on this channel enjoy =)
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The singing commercial was a HOOT! The hood ornament and badge are fantastic. I love 98 Oldsmobiles.
I was only going to use one commercial but both were great and there are other 98 commercials so I used both.. people don’t sing like that anymore it shows the time in which In which this car came from
I like the 51' better, because of the cool chrome arrow and blue horn button 🔘 with stars, but it sure would look good with some hubcaps! 😊
Thinking back on my dad driving the '50 Olds ...
One day in about 1963 or 1964, he came home (after a small accident), and the right rear door was caved in. My little self said "Daddy, somebody let the air out of your car!"
I think the GM designs of that era, are some of the most beautiful ever! It is extremely tough to pick one in both scenarios, they're all superb designs IMO, that particular Buick convertible would be really tough to pass up!! 😎
One of the very best designs of all time. Stunning shape.
Great presentation on a much over looked Oldsmobile in an era when they were really admired. For WYR: I slightly favor the '51 Buick convertible over both the Oldsmobile and Pontiac convertibles, and then hands down the '51 Hudson Hornet sedan for the second choice. One of the greatest automobiles to ever roll off a Detroit assembly line. Makes your mouth water just by looking at it! 😊
Have to say the 51 Jay,
That Jingle was something 😃,Folks sure got excited about things back then.That’s one thing I remember,Born in 63,Remember how we talked about things and got so excited about events ,TV,Prize Fights(Ali,Frazer) Elvis (Aloha Concert)Movies,Just Everything,People just conversed more about those things,Probably because no internet and We had more in common to talk about in person
That What I like about You Jay,You get excited! passion for Cars & History
Haha I loved that jingle thank you so much for all the insight glad you dig this episode love the classic cars
Man I really dig the 50s styling they were artworks of engineering.
Totally agree =)
Nice fancy inside hood release. BTW I'd rather have the Buick and the Hudson.
Sweet choices =)
Thanks for another awesome video Jay the early 50’s cars were very well engineered in my opinion, many cars didn’t have power breaks, windows, steering etc but the mechanical systems they had were very well engineered and executed, they just seemed to work very smoothly and had a mechanical feel that was lost in the rush to power everything . For the would you rather segment I’m going to choose the Buick in the first instance because they are very handsome and just a little nicer than the Oldsmobiles and in the second choice it’s going to be the the Hudson for the same reason it’s just a little better compared to the olds or the studebaker. I think this is the first time I’ve chose a model not highlighted in both options
Glad you dig this episode all the power options were options the windows I thought were interesting they were hydraulic not electric at this point according to the specifications chart that I totally neglected to put in the video..
They were great cars. Women drove them, so no man can claim that he can't drive a big car that does not have power steering.
WYR #1 ... Dang, that Buick is a fine looking automobile.
My mom (God rest her soul) said her favorite car she ever owned was a 1950 Oldsmobile. I was just a kid, so I didn't know if what engine it had. Other than I remember that when the engine was hot, it was hard to start.
If I remember correctly (and um, it's a _long_ time ago!), the car was 6-volt, and my dad was able to buy an 8-volt battery ... which made it much easier to start--at the expense of shorter life of headlights and other bulbs.
Both mom and dad have passed, but it's times like these when I'd like to ask them more questions!
Yes, 8 volt batteries are still available!
Thank you so much for sharing those memories I remember starting cars 6 V system with an 8 V battery spins a little faster =)
@@What.its.like. Particularly useful for V8 cars that would be better off with a big Group 4 battery, but don't have the room for one.
Another great episode, Jay. BTW, I loved the commercials that you included! Most people just don't realize what a big deal the "Rocket" engine was for Oldsmobile for many years. They were certainly known for their "get up and go", which sold a lot of them over the years.
I want to try to include commercials anytime I can today’s featured car I don’t think we’ll have a commercial we’re going to do the 1935 Pierce arrow I’m not sure if it’s going to be done for 4:20 but trying it should be =)
Tomorrow on the engine episode Wednesday we’re going to cover the Lincoln V12
What a stunning automobile. So much to like. I'll pick the Buick in the first scenario and the Olds in the second.
Awesome choices =)
One old car collector called them bathtubs, but they're alright. That heavy thick smooth chrome look was in, and cars were styled to look like they were leaping up, rather than the nose down look that came later. Stick some fins on those baby's, then they look like rockets! 🚀😊
I love the bathtub era I might make a playlist titled as such haha, Hudson owners don’t like when people call the step down Hudson’s bathtubs and say that’s a way to describe nash
Heaters were actually good enough, but they were optional on many cars until the late 60s. True, precious few cars were sold without a heater, even in the late 40s, but a true miser could get a car without one.
1950 Pontiac had a heater under the front seat that blew heat into front and rear footwell areas
I think there was also a defrost/heater core inside the dash or firewall area
-Kenny, when battlebots crew travels to locations, are you a 1st or a 2nd class passenger?
-3rd, Chris. I can have a good sleep in the boot, and I don't hear Faruq writing poetry. There is a toilet flushing sound, but that's just petrol leaving the tank.
That new '51 Stude' Commander V8 was a fast one also, in the drag races we did back then, the rocket and the V8 Stude' were neck 'n neck, it was a toss-up.
Sweet choice I try to make the would you rather section hard to make you think most of the time all six are great choices
1951 Pontiac Grand father had one they rode good 👍
1951 Buick Straight Eight 😉❤️
Great Episode ☺️👏👏
Happy Motoring ✌️🤠
Great choices =) glad you dig this episode i’ve been looking for an early 50s Oldsmobile to feature it’s my favorite era of Oldsmobile.. I love the headlights and grills I still have not covered a sedanette I’ve been looking for one.. there is a fleet line in the pipeline very close to a sedanette but not the same
GM had three main body shells in that era. The Smaller A Body was Chevrolet and Pontiac Jr models, the B body was Senior Pontiac, Olds Jr and Buick Special, they big C body was reserved for the Olds 98, Buick Roadmaster and Cadillac except Fleetwoods.
Awesome information thank you so much fir sharing that
These 98s are essentially Cadillac bodies with minor alterations to the fore and aft fenders/ taillights.
98s were sometimes referred to as the "thinking man's Cadillac". It's almost as if they stepped into the role that was occupied by the vanished La Salle.
There is much truth to that. Got the new Post-War C body in 48, just like the Cad, in 49, got the new bigger Rocket V8 - 303 cubic inches vs 257 cubes for the previous Straight 8. That 303 put out quite a bit more than the 135 horsepower that Olds advertised. Those 98s seriously challenged the Buick Roadmaster, just like the 1940 LaSalle Series 52 did.
@michaelbenardo5695 Very interesting. The 98s always possessed an indefinable charm in my opinion.. Even as a boy, I was intrigued by them.
Excellent video. I am glad to see this video on your channel as well. I own a 1996 Oldsmobile 98. It is interesting how close the length is on this 1951 compared to a 1996. You put a great effort into this and I liked the footage you put with the video as well. I watched and smiled as you explained everything in detail. You pointed out many design details as well.Thank you so much.
Thank you so much glad you dig this one =)
I had a 63super 88.... what a rocket!
Sweet =)
Beautiful Merry Oldsmobile.
Great job!
1951 Oldsmobile
1951 Hudson
Awesome choices glad you dig this episode =)
WYR 1: Gotta go with the Olds for the motor. Styling of the Buick is awesome, and the Pontiac is a nice trim-looking package. WYR 2: The Studebaker lets me imagine I'm Fozz E. Bear and the Hudson looks Fabulous ("Cars" reference), but I like all three! GM put a heater below the passenger seat in a lot of cars of the era; I think this Olds has it in the engine compartment.
Awesome choices =)
My kind of car. My older cousin had a 53 Super 88 hardtop green, his brother had a close to matching green 53 Buick Super green hardtop, loved those 2 cars, Mom's side of the family preferred the high end cars, that is what got me hooked on Chryslers, Packards, Buicks, Mercurys etc.My uncle had a green 62 Pontiac Catalina 4 door sedan same color as the 64 hardtop in the previous episode (my favorite shade of green. First pick the 51 Buick , second the 51 Studebaker Land Cruiser.
Sweet thank you fir sharing those memories =)
Great choices
When you mentioned 'Because of You' as being number 2 song of the year In 1951, I couldn't help but think of Kelly Clarkson's more resent song by the same name.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing I was like there’s another song by that name.. lol =)
A common feature on 4 doors of the 1950s was rear vent windows, but less commonly seen on 2 doors. I noticed this 98 was not made available with rear vent windows. When it comes to choosing favourites I would say a 2 way tie between Buick and Olds, but my favourite is Studebaker.
Rear vent windows are very classy in my opinion great choices
The 50 DID have opening rear vents, just like the ones on 53 and 54 Pontiacs. They replaced them with those chrome "windows" for 51, just like the ones on 53 and 54 Chevys.
Very nice. Thank you.
You beat glad you dig this episode =)
Nice video but as a car-loving teen during those years, I never had much interest in the Oldsmobile. Don't know why that was but never captured my attention. But, obviously a lot of people did.
There are cars that I would definitely pick over it but I think 1950 Oldsmobile wagon or 1950 Oldsmobile sedanette look awesome all the sedanettes look awesome favorite 40s design element
Not a bad looking car. It's the Buick and Hudson for me. BTW, nice touch inserting the car commercials in the video. Well done.
Totally agree
I’m going to add commercials where I can some cars don’t have commercials for them that is easy to find
Wow what a stunner!
Such a lovely car
Totally agree =)
Yes two thumbs and two big toes up for a wonderful, and thorough show * The 1st lot i'd take one 51 Olds 2dr, but if it was between only 4 doors it would be the Pontiac, unless it was a Roadmaster * In the 2nd lot it's the Hudson Hornet hands down. . . :>/
Hahaha nice glad you dig this episode =) groovy choices
Awesome! Keep em coming. Beautiful cars.
=) you bet
I like the overall look of the Buicks for that year. 1951 Olds. I am not a heavy chrome person especially with the muted art deco style, so actually I like the ‘49 olds better than anyone of the ‘51 ones. The Buick and Pontiacs of that time frame always reminds me of the Jimmy Stewart movie “Anatomy of a Murder” because his car in the movie is a early 1950 green Pontiac convertible.
WYR: 51 Olds because it's an Olds and because of the hyrdomatic transmission, and in a tough call, 51 Hudson. The 51 Olds is just beautiful and all the features it had then, Olds truly was a big part of GM's innovation division at this time. Thank you as always - Chuck
Just imagine choosing the car back in the day it would’ve been really hard to do I wonder how many people live with regret of not choosing the other cars I have a friend who had a 51 Hudson hornet four-door sedan and he said one of his biggest regrets in life is selling that car he also owns a 59 Rambler cross country wagon he said he didn’t wanna sell that one either but he couldn’t keep everything so he chose to keep the 59 Rambler
It would be nice if you could point out original equipment and after market accessories. I'm pretty sure that the external visor and side window visors were aftermarket along with the mirrors but not sure.
I do when I can we do all cars it gets hard to know what was standard vs what was stock
I shoot these cars different than just about everybody else instead of doing one or two cars a day I do 25 cars a day and then just sit on the content until I’m ready to do that video so in other words I shoot a months worth of content in one day.. across all different brands so it gets a little crazy
Those were generally dealer accessories.
The "Rocket" engines were noted in early Rock music, but the "new for 1951" 331 Chrysler Firepower engines outclassed the Oldsmobile engine easily. The 331 had 180 BHP, which made Chrysler cars quicker than Buicks. The gas mileage for the 331 Chrysler cars was almost the same as Buick's cars of the same year.
'Rockets' were not Buicks.
Buick V8s were 'Fireball'. 1951 Buicks were straight eights.
I think some tuner fairly quickly got 300 hp. out of a 331 Firepower on the dyno.
@@-oiiio-3993 I suspect that part of the reason for the suspiciously low 135 horsepower reported for the first year "Rocket V8" was to keep the advertised number below that for the largest Buick "Fireball" which I think was reported at something like 150 HP but seriously I don't think it could quite keep up with the "Rocket" which I think had seriously higher top RPM capability because of a shorter stroke than the "Fireball".
Did Buick used to advertise that its "Giant Fireball Straight Eight" had the highest horsepower of any production American car ? (More than Cadillac's flathead V8 but I think that one had more peak torque) Cadillac's V12 and V16 of course gone by then
I like the Hudson. I also am guessing 'I Think We're Alone Now' by Tommy james & the Shondells
Groovy choices great guess it is not that song or band mid 70s rock song I’m pretty sure it’s on the billboard 100 it’s a pretty popular song even now
51 Olds
51 Hudson
51's in general are cool. 51 is my birth year. I'm a big fan of Fords and I really like the 51 Ford but I think styling wise and power wise that the Old's probably gets the nod over the Ford for that year.
Hard to believe that GM killed off both Oldsmobile and Pontiac. Both were great cars. To this day I can't understand why they kept Buick.
A Buick was always your granddaddy's car and the rocket 88 was the cool Daddy-O car.
Sweet choices =) yeah it sucks gm had to kill off Oldsmobile and Pontiac but it’s even crazier to think they got away that long with selling same car shell under all those different names just got to the point were it didn’t make sense
Until 1977, they were NOT the same car.
For WYR, I would choose the '51 Buick, and the Olds.
Thank you for the commercials! I guess these were on early television?
Nice, imposing car. But I wish the hubcaps were there. Oh well....
By the way, was that a '61 Pontiac alongside this one?
Yes it was featured on here a while back
I’m going to add TV commercials when I can some cars commercials aren’t easy to find.. next episode is going to be a 51 Lincoln Lido tomorrows episode today is an off day.. =)
WYR #2: Oldsmobile, hands down.
Sweet =)
Got to love them , shape , chrome …….. you know what i mean
Yeah =)
Hi Jay. Great looking Olds, but to my eye, which is more familiar with Chevs, it looked more a 1953 body than 1951. So I googled images of 1951 Oldsmobile. The Olds 88's for that year do indeed appear to have the same basic body as 1951 Chevs, while the Olds 98's look much more like the 1953 Chev. So it looks to me like they gave the senior Olds a head start on using the newer body. Have a look at some images yourself and see if you concur.
The 51 Olds 98 used the 1950 vintage B body, which was just as wide as the C body, just a little shorter. The 51 Super 88 used a new B body dubbed OB that year, as the 1950 B body was still in production and the base 88 stayed with the stretched A body, and the 51 and all other Chevys used the standard length A body. If it wasn't for the Korean war, the 52 Pontiac would have used the same B body as the 52 Olds. The 53 Chevys used a new A body that was a smaller version of the 1950 B body.
Awesome information and insight thank you so much for correcting that I found that information on Wikipedia and you know Wikipedia is very hit and miss far as information goes
@@What.its.like. The problem with Widipedia is that it is written by computer nerds, and computer nerds generally don't know squat about cars, and care even less. They only know about cell phones and computers.
I have to pick the 51 poncho and the Hudson as my favorites especially the Hudson
Sweet choices =)
1951 Oldsmobile Hardtop -1951 Studebaker 4 door if it is a Commander! If not then the Oldsmobile
Sweet choices =)
Cops in 1951 - "Please pull over....I want to sing you a song about your car!"
I think the globe emblem is amazing!
No hubcaps? - But it does give it that NASCAR look of the era.
LOL! I DO have a 1951 Studebaker 4-Door sedan! So I guess I "Already Rathered"!
Hahah lol stop look listen
I’ve been looking for a bullet nose Studebaker they have one of Classic Automall I just can’t get to it I’m going to try to see if it’s possible to do it next time that’s been a really highly requested car
@@What.its.like. Too bad mine is a basket case. ... and in Canada. Mine was built in Ontario, Canada, if you want to include that info in your 1951 Studebaker video.
Rocket 88, Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats.
WYR: 1. Olds, 2. Hornet
Great choices is not that song or bad I think somebody got it I don’t remember what it was lol I just know it wasn’t that song
I'd have to take the Buick and Hudson. Jay Leno has a 3 on the tree Hornet. Cool car. And the 51 Buick is quite a looker. Also, Pittsburgh rock n roller Donnie Iris ("Ah! Leah!") has or had a 51 Buick, which he called his "pride and joy" on Rockline.
It’s not a Donnie Iris song great choices going to have to feature him on the channel one day that’s for sure
@@What.its.like. Oh I knew that. The 51 Buick, which does look good, reminded me of Donnie talking about his to the Rockline host. The tune clip you featured sounded a bit familiar, but I couldn't place it.
Among convertibles, I would pick the Olds. The Buick is nice, but the mid-range Super had a smallish 263 engine. Ditto for the Pontiac, with a 268 engine. Among sedans, it would be a toss-up between the Olds and the Hudson.
Awesome choices and insight as to why =)
WYR: All of them. They're all cool.
NTT: 409 by The Beach Boys, I think.
The cost to redo all the chrome, stainless, whatever it is will be through the roof.
Great choices it’s not The Beach Boys I was going to say it’s got that surf sound but isn’t surf music lol
@@What.its.like. Oh, okay. Gave it my best shot, though.
Mid 70s rock The song may have been featured on the channel once before it’s a pretty easy song but that guitar texture is in the background
@@What.its.like. Oh, okay.
I've always characterized the 50 and 51 98s as the 'fat' Olds. They did it no favors are the incredibly clean 49, though it was probably in tune with the times. Interstingly, although the 98 was a C body, it was the 'lesser C' - compare to a Cadillac 62 or the big Buicks. Then in 52 the sedans became a stretched B body - with a much cleaner rear quarter and a better look overall. Really good quality body fit here on heavy guage steel, compare that with some of the crap they were putting out 20 years later. High quality interior materials too. WYR: 1) Buick, 2) Olds 98 - though the Hornet is a very close second.
The 1950 and 51 Olds 98, and the short wheelbase Buick Supers and Roadmasters, as well as the 50 - 51 Cadillac Series 61 were B body cars. That B body was indeed just as wide as the C body, just shorter, and with a different roof. The 51 Olds Super 88 and the 51 Buick Special used a new B body that was not as wide as the 50 B body, but still wider than the Chevrolet's A body. That new B body was dubbed OB until 1952, when the old B body sedans were gone, and the hardtops and convertibles were reclassified as C bodies.
Thank you so much for sharing that information and insight =)
Great choices
Looks like Roy Roger has got bragging rights.
Haha
My second car was a 1953 Super 88 Holiday.
Sweet =)
I'd go for th '51 Olds 98, if it were a Holiday coupe. I'd take the Hudson over anything else.
I remember these ealy Olds V8. It seemed they made a chug-chug-chug sound when starting up from a stop.
Great choices.. I have yet to drive an Oldsmobile with the rocket there’s a lot of cars from the 50s that I would really like to drive one my favorite eras =) golden hawk is at the top of the list And is the main reason why there hasn’t been a 57 or 58 on the channel yet because it’s a car that I really want to drive
I've never been a big fan of GM cars from any era, however I've always liked the first new Postwar design of 49. Slim, clean, beautiful. Especially the hardtops.Then in 50-51 it was ruined, looking like they put too much air in the original bodies. Fat, clumsy. I've often wondered when builders started the step down floors ( except Hudson ). Looks like GM was starting in that direction here. Druthers: 51 Pontiac, 51: Studebaker.
Great choices =)
I always thought that the Oldsmobiles of 1949 to 1954 always looked like they were crying or frowning?
Yes I always thought the same thing and that’s why I totally dig them =)
They made wagons as well but I have never seen a wagon Oldsmobile from that era I’ve been looking I’ve been looking for de soto wagons as well
Last Olds wagon was 1950.
They all are frumpy...but I respect them!
Nice 😊
I like everything except the Studebaker..I thought those cars were longer than 208 inches.
Yeah they are the same size as a 54 hornet
@@What.its.like. I see.
Sounds like early 80's punk/New Wave
Classic rock from 1975
That 60.8 inches wide for the black 51 Olds 98 is wrong. Those cars were 80.8 inches wide. Even a little old Tin Lizzie is more than 60 inches wide.
www.automobile-catalog.com/make/oldsmobile/98_3gen/98_3_sedan/1951.html#gsc.tab=0
51 BUICK 51 HORNET .
Awesome choices =)
Same
This car is about 80 inches wide. 60 inches wide is narrower than a Volkswagen.
I got the specs from this source which is pretty reputable but finding out everyone has been wrong from time to time
www.automobile-catalog.com/make/oldsmobile/98_3gen/98_3_sedan/1951.html#gsc.tab=0
Buick,Olds
51 Buick--51 Olds
Sweet choices =)
51 Pontiac - Hudson
Sweet choices
Buick, and Hudson
Sweet choices
51 Buick
51 Stude!
Song. no idea...
Great choices
Song is mid 70s classic rock =)
Pearl Necklace by ZZ Top 🤷🤞
Great guess not that song or band
Buick,,,,Hudson,,,
Sweet choices =)
WYR 1. Buick 2. Hudson
Sweet choices =)
WYR 1: Buick WYR 2: Stude
Groovy choices =)
I would rather.... go with the '51 Olds, since Pontiac didn't have a V8 yet... and definitely the Olds in the second choice... but if I could have any early Olds 88, it'd be a '53 super 88.
The song sounds like it's either Tom Petty's 'American Girl'... or The Cars 'My Best Friend's Girl"... Probably the second one. I suppose Ike Turner's "Rocket 88" would have been too obvious... LOL
Great guesses none of those
Mid70s rock song.. I totally agree with you I think the super 88 looks the best out of all of those not to see the 98 doesn’t look good I just like the styling of the super 88 better
Great choices =)
@@What.its.like. Well, dang... that's another tough one then... LOL My only other guess would be ZZ Top's 'Pearl Necklace', but I saw someone else guessed that, so it must've been wrong too...
you haven’t a got one in a while so I’m gonna give you a huge hint Springsteen
@@What.its.like. LOL Oh, that's why I don't know it... I don't listen to Bruce Springsteen!
I don’t either just a song that came on the radio.. so big hit 1975
Pontiac Hornet
Sweet =)
Needs hubcaps.
'48 was better looking than these but had a primitive engine.
48 looked like the 49, but had the old 257 straight 8, 49 had the new 303 V8. If you are thinking that the new engine should have made more than 135 horsepower, you are almost certainly correct. 135 horses is not enough for 0 - 60 in less than 14 seconds. Late 70s/early 80s Chevy 305 made 145 horsepower, and in a car some 400 pounds lighter, took under 15 seconds for 0 - 60, a whole second longer.
rocket 88 Ike and Tina Turner
Great guess not that song or band