Dude you are absolutely HIGH. It took a 14 point sack fumble recovery for a TD, clemson not being able to kick 29 yard field goals, and our best shutdown corner getting hurt on the last play of regulation. You honestly think it was just random that Coleman caught that ball in OT on Lukus?
@pnut3844able well obviously they won. I'm only saying characterizing it the way he did, as if FSU outplayed clemson for 60 mins is hilarious. If Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman, or Jordan Travis had gone off all game and the got hurt going into OT, and Clemson won because they couldn't score, you would characterize it that way for Clemson. They literally had Zero catches against Wiggins when he got hurt on the final play of regulation. They also rushed for 22 yards. I mean let's quit acting like they beat Clemsons ass is all I'm saying. Play that game ten times and see what happens.
I’m a Clemson fan and there’s no such a thing as lucky. We lost, congratulations to FSU, we made critical errors that as we know, you can’t make against a good team. Because we won a lot of them because of errors. That’s not luck, FSU made their own luck. You take advantage of the others team’s mistakes. That’s what they did. We won championships with that very thing. Good luck to FSU the rest of the year. We’ll be better with experience.
@@TigersTilliDiethat’s pac 12 so far lol but we will C soon when the schedule goes on on ACC but rn Duke Louisville miami fsu North Carolina Syracuse etc undefeated.
What ???!?!?... he did ight Clemson loss bc the kicker who use to work for arby's came out of retirement to win the game MISS THE GAME WINNER😂😂😂 I joke, i joke.. good win for FSU😎
As a Clemson fan I'm glad that Florida State, UNC, Miami, Duke, and a few others are catching up to Clemson because of the portal. It makes the Conference stronger and legit again.
You high on cholesterol, dude? Nobody is catching up to clemson . Clemson is rolling down the hill. Florida state is not playing well because of portal. You know nothing about college football. Stick to your cheeseburger
Jordan Travis was hurting that whole game. His injury made him one dimensional which doesn’t help an offense built around him being able to keep defenses guessing. Hopefully the bye week will help him get back to healthy so we can keep people off balance.
FSU was an underdog against LSU. FSU was without starting right tackle - rewatch game - Byers was a turnstile. With starting oline we roll em. Also, Clemson running stats skewed because they had a 46 yard breakout run. Otherwise, they didn’t do much on the ground. Finally - the only “padlock” stat that matters is scoreboard.
Clemson is a Top 20 team, at least. They are a couple big play players away from being as good as they have been in recent history. But FSU & Miami are only probably going to get better from here, so their domination is over.
I don't think FSU has turned a corner back to an elite program. What I saw was them...just like about 12 other teams... have benefited from having 6yr Seniors at QB while some of the other top team are having inexperience at QB or new coaching staffs. Jordan Travis came out the same recruiting cycle as Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. So did Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr, Cam Rising and a bunch of the high performing signal callers. Once these Covid year players dry out it will got back to more of a "coach em up" standard. Next season FSU will be in the same position as Clemson is this year with an inexperienced QB plus OL as they are set to lose 6 to 7 starters on Offense and 7 on Defense.
What makes me mad is everyone talks about Clemson owning the ACC. Everyone has forgotten that before Clemson had this little 5 to 7 year run that FSU were the kings of the ACC for decades.
Clemson was very good in the ACC conference FSU joined. But no one dominated it like Bowden in his prime. But he fell off the map prior to Clemson emerging so youth forgets their history.But I do get irritated hearing about this historic run by Clemson since 14 as if was GOAT conference run ever when it wasn’t. Honestly, too many commentators live in the moment and are just baiting FSU fans for clicks.
Florida State didn’t play good the last two weeks. No doubt about it but dadgum I think tv watchers have no idea how hard it is to go into BC on red bandanna week and win. Historically that game has given top ten teams nightmares and again to go into Death Valley with hardly any fsu fan tickets being allotted and come out with a win after playing way down to your potential. Those are two achievement that’s I don’t think get enough credit. I think fsu is a heck of a lot better than their last two performances. I also don’t know another team who fights to the end like fsu… oh that’s because no other team in America has been tested like fsu to this point in the season.
@@leeption1ablethat is they potential the days of Clemson being able to win without playing perfect is over duke and Fsu games is perfect examples too many costly mistakes that in past they would be able to overcome
@@pnut3844able can’t say that with certainty. Clemson hasn’t disappeared they keep getting better. I like the chances to run the table just gonna be rough. Miami beat a terrible A&M team that is dying to fire Jimbo but can’t
Clemson recently had to take down the name Tillman hall from one of the most famous campus halls bc he was known for lynching blacks and every since then the team has struggled with recruits and there’s a lot of tension on campus. It’s definitely affecting the team
I got Fsu vs Georgia in the natty all fsu gotta do is win out and they in the playoffs the teams in front of and behind them play each so they are in a great position
@@luxboss2388 Are you really so ignorant and huffing your own farts to believe that FSU is better than Washington or Oregon? You think they are better than Penn State? Or Michigan or even Ohio? Y'all may make the playoffs, but that's it. FSU fans are delusional like Tennessee fans were last year
@@pnut3844able if fsu wins out and win the acc championship fsu will definitely be in the playoffs you do not know what you talking about especially if Miami and Florida win out and they beat both you don’t have a choice but to let them in Michigan Ohio state gotta play each other Oregon Washington gotta play each other penn state Ohio state gotta play each other you dudes need to go learn football and not only that Texas Oklahoma play each fsu is set up perfect right now long as they stay around the top 5
I said it 2 years ago. I said it last year. I said it this year. Clemson has been sliding backwards for 4 or 5 years. They literally have been worse each year.
I need fuller to coach these LB’s on pre snap reads, coverage, reading the qbs eyes and inside/outside leverage bc damnit man that game tape is out now
Clemson hasn't had many scholarships because we are not losing many to the portal. Dabo won't process players and many guys who would have been drafted wanted to return. I'm sure he likely would have used it had that not happened. We were over the limit going into the fall. It is what it is.
Everyone is trying to make an excuse as to how FSU is not a great team. Nah we are good. We’ve been brewing for the last 4 years and people act like we are an overnight success because of portal? 🤣🤣🤣
Not to be biased but I think dabo is trying to even out the team as far black & white players. Again not to be racial but Clemson has a white starting RB and 4 white receivers which is kind of unheard of. This team is very different from other teams that won national championships
Clemsons dominance of the conference coincided with the worst stretch of fsu football in 50 years. So yes if fsu gets this thing rolling Clemson is toast. Plus Miami is trending up..
A little sloppy, I'm not used to these miscues from you Josh. 1) It isn't Travis Hunter but Jordan Travis 2) Clemson hasn't lost back-to-back road conference games (which you corrected) or home conference games, but back-to-back conference games, one on the road and one at home. 3) Clemson ACC titles aren't 7 or 8 in a row but 7 out of the last 8. Otherwise, fair analysis.
That defense touch down basically won them the game, oh and Clemson kicker not being able to make a kick. Otherwise Florida state looked pedestrian in all phases. Clemson’s defense came to play.
Refs missed a lateral that was batted down by Jared Verse that he would have ran back for TD and called it an incomplete pass. Also, Clemson's corners were mauling FSU's WRs down the field all game.
Clemson looked like they would win. Fell apart at end. Heck I'm a Dawg so it doesn't effect me but I really thought Clemson played better until they lost.
Don't worry about it Josh, I was trying to look up the Florida State quarterback the other day on Google and twice typed in Travis Hunter in confusion lol.
Clemson coaching gave that game away. you can't watch that game and tell me FSU was the better team. Thanks DABO for the insane play calls that gave it away
Who has a better resume than FSU BASED ON THE GAMES PLAYED #1 Georgia: Home-UT Martin, Home-Ball State, Hone- South Carolina, and Home-UAB. ALL HOME GAMES #2 Michigan: Home-East Carolina, Home-UNLV, Home-Bowling Green, and Home-Rutgers. ALL HOME GAMES #3 Texas: Home-Rice, Away-Alabama (not your typical Bama team), Home- Wyoming (tied 10-10 in the fourth quarter), and Away- Baylor #4 Ohio State: Away-Indiana, Home-Youngstown State, Hone-Western Kentucky University, Away Notre Dame (Always over rated)., #5 FSU: Neutral site LSU (#5 when played), Southern Mississippi, Away-Boston College, Away-Clemson (rank 9th to start the season. Make a case for who had a better resume than FSU
Miami can stop scheduling bethune cookman and FAU every year. Their admin wants to schedule easy wins every September. That is on them when they’ve doing it for over a decade. Its not like maybe this year Bethune Cookman is going to be good . . . .
@@Alopen-xb1rb I didn’t see FAU on the schedule this year or last year…. I get your point, but what team doesn’t schedule teams they should beat during the course of a season? As far as the team, building confidence and getting players to “buy in” after a 5-7 year is huge for Miami. If they can beat Clemson and/or FSU, that will demonstrate to the team and other recruits they are building something in Miami. If Miami can avoid the let down game this year, it will be a great year.
@@Alopen-xb1rb Absolutely, I am more intrigued on how we play our conference games. I think by the time we play FSU we will have an idea of what kind of year Miami is going to have. The Clemson game will be a good barometer of where Miami is at.
Defence has got to get off the field if we want to keep winning. This is the second game in a row where the other team controlled the ball for twice as long and time of possession
Regarding the Portal, you have two programs in very different situations. Florida State - had to utilize the portal- recruiting had fallen off the map while Clemson recruited in the top 5 year after year. But, Clemson is part of the portal whether Dabo likes it or not - they have lost players to the portal and that, obviously, affects top 5 recruiting classes.
THANK YOU!!!!! Josh, as smart as he is, seems to be ignorant to that. Should Dabo not go get 5 star HS players? It's not like Norvell chose to pick portal players over HS kids, he had 367 offers out for the 2023 class but no kids wanted to commit so HE HAD TO USE THE PORTAL!! It's literally that simple but ppl seem to forget that or ignore it bc it doesn't fit their narrative (here's looking at you Mr Pate)
@@johnwayne-vs7ub Clemson -class ranking last five years 11, 10, 5, 3, 10. Avg 7.8 FSU over the last 5 years Avg. 20.4 Last year #19 but look at the portal!!!
#36 makes the kick! He puts in the work! Play Quinn Dabo! Quit being so stubborn with a kid who’s been retired! No reason why not! We all saw him warmup at halftime!
Horrible game by FSU and they still won in Death Valley. Imagine if they actually put it together and play well. Whew! PS- Travis Hunter is not the QB for FSU. Words matter, Josh.
@@elll4222 I think he means that FSU didn’t even play their best game yet , Clemson has got their guy in Klub, when he gets his feet under him he’ll be a good one.
Clemson defense and roster was better than FSU. Coaching cost them this game. Prevent defense before half cost them 7 when FSU was stone walled. Playing for field goal at end of regulation. Mafah averaging 7 yards a carry and didn’t touch ball for last 5 min or regulation and overtime. 3rd and 1 in OT and two straight pass plays….. coaching was the difference in this game. Clemson roster can compete with anyone.
People talking about how FSU didn’t look convincing against Clemson and BC. Sorry, I don’t mean to burst anyone’s bubble but NO ONE has looked convincing. At least we have wins against very formidable P5 schools (LSU and Clemson). BC was a fluke game that caught us off guard + the entire team was sick (anyone who’s been in Tallahassee these past few weeks know there’s been a bug goin around). Everyone expected FSU-Clemson to be close-why? Because Clemson has only lost at home once before since the dawn of man (it feels like). That’s not an easy place to play. Throw in the injuries with Scott, Dent, and Travis and it becomes apparent that great teams find a way to win with a hand tied behind their back. We’re going to rest up these next couple of weeks and be locked in for the rest of the season
Fsu beat a school that got destroyed by the basketball school duke, and also squeezed by Boston collef who took them inro the 4th quarter. FSU is still sus
Josh.. this game had nothing to do with the portal. Clemson looked better across the board at every position group. Including receiver! But yea, generally speaking not using the portal only hurts your team.. but this game had NOTHING to do with portal. FSU did NOT look foreal…
Not to mention.. you look at the dynamic of the two teams. One is too 5 in port along and the other is bottom 5. The bottom 5 in portal looked like they had better athletes across the field.. That being said, Dabo, will without a doubt start to dabble .. but don’t expect flood gates. Will probably only get 3-4 portal guys next year, and in any given season would most likely cap it at 5ish.. just knowing Dabo and his call-it pride, ego, principal, “culture”.
Missing their best tackle, injured starter at center, injured best defensive back, injured QB just gutting it out to get to the bye week. Clemson had missing players as well. It was pretty even.
@@peytonponder8488lmao he didn’t even play that bad they just couldn’t score . that fumble return literally won then the game . travis hasn’t been playing that awesome outside of 4th quarter lsu game and then the middle school team fsu played bc and clemson had him contained a lot at some points
Wrong? This is FSUs best team since 2014, it took a 6th year QB, a bought and paid for group of vets from the transfer portal, and a missed FG to get them out of there with a win. Congrats, but worry about FSU sustaining some success here. Clemson will be fine, that was our best offensive showing against an elite defense since Trevor left with a 19 year old QB and a 1st year OC. Love all these couch coaches whose teams haven't sniffed anything with the word Championship in it for 10 years talk about a guy who has won as much and as often as any active coach in FBS.
Dude, they won because they got the rare strip sack scoop and score. Without that, the stats make perfect sense. Clemson out played them all day long. But FSU benefitted from a lucky scoop and score and the fact that Clemson has real kicker issues. Clemson was easily the better team out there. But they made one more costly mistake than FSU did, and FSU took it. Doing what it takes to win matters, but you can't convince me the FSU is 'better' than Clemson was on that day.
It’s not so much this one game being a referendum but the whole season as well as the last few. No doubt we’re in a decline. Love the move by Dabo to hire Riley. Now it’s time we upgrade position coaches and stop handing them out to his buddies. Time to use the portal and bring in 1 to 3 or 4 every offseason. Guys who can contribute and help not back up QBs. Go Tigers! Fingers crossed Dabo will change!
Clemson had PLENTY of Opportunities to Put Florida State down in this game and DIDN'T Do it. Unable to Stop a 4th & 1 in the 2nd Quarter Up 10-0, The 1:50 TD Drive by FSU Before the End of the First Half, The 46 Yard Run Before the Fumble that led to a Florida State Defensive TD, Multiple Drives in the 2nd Half that led to Punts, The Obvious 29-Yard FG Yeeted by the Kicker (Who is probably WANTED in SC for Larceny and Fraud), and the Horrible Clock Management on the Final Drive before OT. No Excuses. Clemson had opportunities to Put FSU on the Mat and couldn't pull it off. Props to FSU for being RELENTLESS the whole game. Never at any point were they out of it. Clemson had to play PERFECT Football for 60 Minutes and FAILED. Just felt like a 'Passing of the Torch' Game. The Sack-Strip Fumble returned for a TD just symbolized not only Clemson's Year, but also will be weaponized against the Anti-Transfer Portal Crowd. Clemson will still be a competitive team, just not for the CFP or ACC Championship. I suppose the question for Clemson now is, "Can it get any lower"?, and I believe so if Dabo and the Tigers DO NOT Tread Lightly from here on out. Appreciate the Take, Pate State!
Josh, I watch you a lot but you are out of your freaking mind on this Clemson FSU game. Clemson lost this game as they did against Duke. FSU was outmatched on both sides of the line of scrimmage as the data shows. Normally, line of scrimmage wins. If you watched this game as I did you clearly see why FSU never had a lead and it was Clemson that let FSU back in the game when it it was about to be a two score lead. One final note, as a Clemson fan, I'll take recruiting and developing over portal kids all day. Not saying that one or two in key positions could help but the odds suggest you better hit otherwise most don't pan out. FSU has become a portal program because they have had no choice. Kudos to Norvell for going all in to give himself a shot at success because the FSU fan base is not prepared to sit on another 5 years of mediocrity waiting on recruits to develop. But the question remains whether portal programs can be consistent winners. Sustainable? We know what recruiting and developing does and yes it is sustainable with the best coaching. The top programs in the country the last 5-10 years, Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Ohio State don't live on the portal, instead they recruit and develop better than any in college football.
Exactly what I been saying Clemson had turnovers that lost them the game against Duke, which had nothing to do with the portal however, Duke put themselves in the position to win that game due to the portal.
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Travis Hunter??? Bruh, Jordan Travis😂
“Travis Hunter” 😂 CMON JOSH!! Jordan TRAVIS!
Josh still has Colorado on the brain.
😂
That’s the Deion tax dude
That one was a low blow, brought back bad memories with that one smh 😂😂
It's that Deion tax he kept telling ya
“People said they’ll probably lose to LSU” it was you Josh. You’re people, Josh.
If they do...their fans will be jigging all night
love your show, sir. You always keep it 💯
Dude you are absolutely HIGH. It took a 14 point sack fumble recovery for a TD, clemson not being able to kick 29 yard field goals, and our best shutdown corner getting hurt on the last play of regulation. You honestly think it was just random that Coleman caught that ball in OT on Lukus?
@pnut3844able well obviously they won. I'm only saying characterizing it the way he did, as if FSU outplayed clemson for 60 mins is hilarious. If Johnny Wilson, Keon Coleman, or Jordan Travis had gone off all game and the got hurt going into OT, and Clemson won because they couldn't score, you would characterize it that way for Clemson. They literally had Zero catches against Wiggins when he got hurt on the final play of regulation. They also rushed for 22 yards. I mean let's quit acting like they beat Clemsons ass is all I'm saying. Play that game ten times and see what happens.
Miami is the Clubber Lang of our conference.
Clubber Lang actually won something 😂😂😂😂
@@Skipdickman1 😂😂😂😂
I’m a Clemson fan and there’s no such a thing as lucky. We lost, congratulations to FSU, we made critical errors that as we know, you can’t make against a good team. Because we won a lot of them because of errors. That’s not luck, FSU made their own luck. You take advantage of the others team’s mistakes. That’s what they did. We won championships with that very thing. Good luck to FSU the rest of the year. We’ll be better with experience.
Classy post.
Classy. Go Noles. Good luck the rest of the year (unless we see you in Charlotte)
In the last decade Clemson was 54-3 at home. Give the Noles credit for this win. Clemson is a monster at home.
The hoard of casuals downplaying this win don’t seem to understand that reality
@@Tomahawk_choppait’s not just casuals, it’s the narrative that the ACC still sucks, we arguably have the best conference in football right now.
@@TigersTilliDiethat’s pac 12 so far lol but we will C soon when the schedule goes on on ACC but rn Duke Louisville miami fsu North Carolina Syracuse etc undefeated.
@@Zachgotgainz the Pac 12 doesn’t play any defense.
@@TigersTilliDie yea but they probably will finish with best records by conference tho
There was so many calls that weren’t called on Clemson that gave them big drives.
Man Keon really looking like the best wide receiver in the country right now he will definitely be in the NFL after this year
No he doesn’t.. he had two touchdowns, but locked down all game
@@richardjohnson7752 name somebody who look better then I’ll wait and who actually having an impact in game situations
@@richardjohnson7752in what world is 86 yards and 2 touchdowns considered “locked down” 🤣
What ???!?!?... he did ight
Clemson loss bc the kicker who use to work for arby's came out of retirement to win the game MISS THE GAME WINNER😂😂😂
I joke, i joke.. good win for FSU😎
@@wireroom7939 actually that wasn’t the game winner who said fsu wouldn’t of scored after he made the kick it was plenty time left
Jaheim Bell was a beast, should still be playing for SC, more money…
As a Clemson fan I'm glad that Florida State, UNC, Miami, Duke, and a few others are catching up to Clemson because of the portal. It makes the Conference stronger and legit again.
You high on cholesterol, dude? Nobody is catching up to clemson . Clemson is rolling down the hill. Florida state is not playing well because of portal. You know nothing about college football. Stick to your cheeseburger
If Dabo used the portal y’all would still be the powerhouse you’ve been this past decade
Jordan Travis was hurting that whole game. His injury made him one dimensional which doesn’t help an offense built around him being able to keep defenses guessing. Hopefully the bye week will help him get back to healthy so we can keep people off balance.
I remember when JT’s strength was his legs and he was working on his ability to pass.
Didn't know he was left handed and ran on his hands? He nor his team could run the ball, had ZERO to do with bring hurt.
Didnt seam like he was hurt when he stayed in the game or threw a pass in OT
@@WAFFLE25625Did you see the RPO where he tucked the ball and ran for 10-15 yards? No.. he was hurt so he handed it off. We won with a hurt QB.
@@WAFFLE25625damn didnt know injury = say fuck it and just dont play. Now i know
Travis hunter is crazy gang
Man just said “Travis hunter never threw downfield that many time”
When dabo chose to go for it on 4th instead of kicking the FG against DUKE, I knew they would be in trouble in close games. Kicker is booty hole
FSU was an underdog against LSU.
FSU was without starting right tackle - rewatch game - Byers was a turnstile. With starting oline we roll em.
Also, Clemson running stats skewed because they had a 46 yard breakout run. Otherwise, they didn’t do much on the ground.
Finally - the only “padlock” stat that matters is scoreboard.
What about a kicker from the portal
Clemson is a Top 20 team, at least. They are a couple big play players away from being as good as they have been in recent history. But FSU & Miami are only probably going to get better from here, so their domination is over.
Lol really??
All moot. ACC will be dead in a few years and no Miami never manages the whole season. They get exposed every year. This year will be no different.
I don't think FSU has turned a corner back to an elite program. What I saw was them...just like about 12 other teams... have benefited from having 6yr Seniors at QB while some of the other top team are having inexperience at QB or new coaching staffs. Jordan Travis came out the same recruiting cycle as Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence. So did Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr, Cam Rising and a bunch of the high performing signal callers. Once these Covid year players dry out it will got back to more of a "coach em up" standard. Next season FSU will be in the same position as Clemson is this year with an inexperienced QB plus OL as they are set to lose 6 to 7 starters on Offense and 7 on Defense.
@@CL_Duybahaye you may be onto something right there
@@CL_Duybahwon’t matter. FSU as a program is on the incline!
What makes me mad is everyone talks about Clemson owning the ACC. Everyone has forgotten that before Clemson had this little 5 to 7 year run that FSU were the kings of the ACC for decades.
Clemson has 21, State has 18 big dawg.
@@hayeshollis9074Clemson got most of those before FSU joined the conference lol
Clemson was very good in the ACC conference FSU joined. But no one dominated it like Bowden in his prime. But he fell off the map prior to Clemson emerging so youth forgets their history.But I do get irritated hearing about this historic run by Clemson since 14 as if was GOAT conference run ever when it wasn’t. Honestly, too many commentators live in the moment and are just baiting FSU fans for clicks.
Yeah and bowden let rapists and murders play for the Noles. Bunch of felons and street thugs who got bail bonds instead of a scholarship
21 ACC championships by Clemson
15 ACC championships for FSU
Nice narrative tho
Florida State didn’t play good the last two weeks. No doubt about it but dadgum I think tv watchers have no idea how hard it is to go into BC on red bandanna week and win. Historically that game has given top ten teams nightmares and again to go into Death Valley with hardly any fsu fan tickets being allotted and come out with a win after playing way down to your potential. Those are two achievement that’s I don’t think get enough credit. I think fsu is a heck of a lot better than their last two performances. I also don’t know another team who fights to the end like fsu… oh that’s because no other team in America has been tested like fsu to this point in the season.
They played great. Clemson didn't play to their potential.
Yea, subjectively. I suppose I just mean FSU has the talent and experience to play much better than they have the last two weeks. @@leeption1able
@@leeption1ablethat is they potential the days of Clemson being able to win without playing perfect is over duke and Fsu games is perfect examples too many costly mistakes that in past they would be able to overcome
@@leeption1able Clemson played great. FSU played down to their level. Look at the stats
@@russbolton947 FSU is who they are. Clemson has played the same all year so far. Look at the stats. Lol. So no, FSU didn't "play down" to Clemson.
Yea you messed up on Jordan Travis’ name. Jessie should have made you redo the segment.
My Tigers either win out or lose 3 more games. 2 to a mix of Miami, UNC and ND. Then the 3rd to a random
@@pnut3844able can’t say that with certainty. Clemson hasn’t disappeared they keep getting better. I like the chances to run the table just gonna be rough. Miami beat a terrible A&M team that is dying to fire Jimbo but can’t
Clemson recently had to take down the name Tillman hall from one of the most famous campus halls bc he was known for lynching blacks and every since then the team has struggled with recruits and there’s a lot of tension on campus. It’s definitely affecting the team
Those stats you provided demonstrate that Clemson shot themselves in the foot, again. FSU didn’t beat them, they beat themselves, again.
@@pnut3844able I would, but it is not going to fix Clemson’s problems. Only they can do that.
Imma keep it real with you, I’ll never give FSU any credit and refuse to believe they’re good.
0:30 “… they’ll probably lose to LSU.” If my memory serves me correct Josh 🤔 … you picked LSU to win that game, did you not sir?
Quarterback is Jordan Travis
Travis Hunter throwing?
I got Fsu vs Georgia in the natty all fsu gotta do is win out and they in the playoffs the teams in front of and behind them play each so they are in a great position
It's gonna be a PAC 12 team vs a Big 10 team. Let's be realistic..... And I'm definitely not a fan of either of those conferences
@@davyboy9397 I got a beach front property in Iowa if you believe that
@@luxboss2388 Are you really so ignorant and huffing your own farts to believe that FSU is better than Washington or Oregon? You think they are better than Penn State? Or Michigan or even Ohio? Y'all may make the playoffs, but that's it. FSU fans are delusional like Tennessee fans were last year
@@pnut3844able if fsu wins out and win the acc championship fsu will definitely be in the playoffs you do not know what you talking about especially if Miami and Florida win out and they beat both you don’t have a choice but to let them in Michigan Ohio state gotta play each other Oregon Washington gotta play each other penn state Ohio state gotta play each other you dudes need to go learn football and not only that Texas Oklahoma play each fsu is set up perfect right now long as they stay around the top 5
Jordan Travis lol not Travis Hunter
The game I saw Clemson beat Clemson.
Loss to Duke was @ Duke not home
I don’t care what anyone says FSU is the best team in the country right now. Georgia is sitting pretty at the top playing Flamingo University Tech.
They potentially could have won it by more wes Goodwin cost us
I said it 2 years ago.
I said it last year.
I said it this year.
Clemson has been sliding backwards for 4 or 5 years.
They literally have been worse each year.
They look better this year tho
@@Grayson950815record, Klubnik and receivers sure don’t look the part of “looking better”
I think Miami has a good shot of beating them
Jordan Travis 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I need fuller to coach these LB’s on pre snap reads, coverage, reading the qbs eyes and inside/outside leverage bc damnit man that game tape is out now
Ppl are soooooo sleep on Miami
Does Yabo Dabo DooDoo always slam the fake wood podium at Clemson like that after every home game?
FYI, it's Jordan Travis not Travis Hunter LOL
Clemson hasn't had many scholarships because we are not losing many to the portal. Dabo won't process players and many guys who would have been drafted wanted to return. I'm sure he likely would have used it had that not happened. We were over the limit going into the fall. It is what it is.
I’m from Clemson lived here my whole life believe it or not Clemson has a huge racial problem going on rn & it’s affecting the football team
Josh you’ve been doing it all year, it’s Jordan Travis, not Travis Hunter.
IT WAS A 2 POINT SPREAD. FSU has won two games that “experts” expected them basically to lose
Everyone is trying to make an excuse as to how FSU is not a great team. Nah we are good. We’ve been brewing for the last 4 years and people act like we are an overnight success because of portal? 🤣🤣🤣
Only a casual would watch that game and come away thinking that FSU is the better team
Not to be biased but I think dabo is trying to even out the team as far black & white players. Again not to be racial but Clemson has a white starting RB and 4 white receivers which is kind of unheard of. This team is very different from other teams that won national championships
Clemsons dominance of the conference coincided with the worst stretch of fsu football in 50 years. So yes if fsu gets this thing rolling Clemson is toast. Plus Miami is trending up..
Depends on the new QB for FSU next year
@@pnut3844able Miami needs a stadium first. Can’t keep living off of the dolphins 50 miles away
@@Grayson950815 we're fine at QB. More worried about d-line and o-tackle
He's thinking colorado travis hunter😂😂
2:43 even he knew he said that too had me cracking up
A little sloppy, I'm not used to these miscues from you Josh.
1) It isn't Travis Hunter but Jordan Travis
2) Clemson hasn't lost back-to-back road conference games (which you corrected) or home conference games, but back-to-back conference games, one on the road and one at home.
3) Clemson ACC titles aren't 7 or 8 in a row but 7 out of the last 8.
Otherwise, fair analysis.
It went from..”A Hollywood Ending” to wide left!!! Hilarious!!
That defense touch down basically won them the game, oh and Clemson kicker not being able to make a kick. Otherwise Florida state looked pedestrian in all phases. Clemson’s defense came to play.
Refs missed a lateral that was batted down by Jared Verse that he would have ran back for TD and called it an incomplete pass. Also, Clemson's corners were mauling FSU's WRs down the field all game.
First ESPN CFB says it on their recap of the game, now Josh Pate is calling Jordan Travis “Travis Hunter” too. JT doesn’t deserve this disrespect 😭
It’s Jordan Travis, not Travis Hunter, Josh!
Thanks - Mr. Never-Misspoke-in-My-Life 🙄
@@shadowdawg04 I'm afraid the Heisman voters might make the same mistake.
@@MrDubyadee1 Not surprised you would! 😒 seriously get real, he won't even be in the conversation...
Right. Travis Hunter graduated from FSU a few years ago.
Dabo is against the portal & not to be racist but he doesn’t want "rough neck" black guys on the campus or team..no matter how talented they are
Clemson looked like they would win. Fell apart at end. Heck I'm a Dawg so it doesn't effect me but I really thought Clemson played better until they lost.
Ref's helped Clemson as well FSU is a passing team the run game is not there this year
Don't worry about it Josh, I was trying to look up the Florida State quarterback the other day on Google and twice typed in Travis Hunter in confusion lol.
20-15 overall fsu up they still behind
Travis Hunter???😂
FSU was a slight dog against LSU! LSU was a 1.5 to 2 point favorite! Basically a pick ‘em. I bet FSU both games against LSU and Clemson
What site are you betting on?
Dabo should quit coaching like he said he would if/when college players started to get paid.
Clemson coaching gave that game away. you can't watch that game and tell me FSU was the better team. Thanks DABO for the insane play calls that gave it away
They held Jordan Travis back because hes still hurt. Or else Jordan wouldve scrambled more than what twice i believe
FSU’s rushing success is highly dependent on Travis’s legs as well. Benson will look more like himself after Travis gets healthy during this bye
That's facts glad we got a bye week
Your not wrong
@@TheWorldTurntle They weren't fully recovered from the flu they had the week before that affected their game against BC.
Who has a better resume than FSU BASED ON THE GAMES PLAYED
#1 Georgia: Home-UT Martin, Home-Ball State, Hone- South Carolina, and Home-UAB. ALL HOME GAMES
#2 Michigan: Home-East Carolina, Home-UNLV, Home-Bowling Green, and Home-Rutgers.
ALL HOME GAMES
#3 Texas: Home-Rice, Away-Alabama (not your typical Bama team), Home- Wyoming (tied 10-10 in the fourth quarter), and Away- Baylor
#4 Ohio State: Away-Indiana, Home-Youngstown State, Hone-Western Kentucky University, Away Notre Dame (Always over rated).,
#5 FSU: Neutral site LSU (#5 when played), Southern Mississippi, Away-Boston College, Away-Clemson (rank 9th to start the season.
Make a case for who had a better resume than FSU
Jordan travis not Travis Hunter
Miami can only play the teams in front of them. They have played them and beat them all….soundly. Winning builds confidence and belief.
Miami can stop scheduling bethune cookman and FAU every year. Their admin wants to schedule easy wins every September. That is on them when they’ve doing it for over a decade. Its not like maybe this year Bethune Cookman is going to be good . . . .
@@Alopen-xb1rb I didn’t see FAU on the schedule this year or last year….
I get your point, but what team doesn’t schedule teams they should beat during the course of a season?
As far as the team, building confidence and getting players to “buy in” after a 5-7 year is huge for Miami. If they can beat Clemson and/or FSU, that will demonstrate to the team and other recruits they are building something in Miami. If Miami can avoid the let down game this year, it will be a great year.
@@bsmall1412 fair enough. They play both this year. There will be plenty to judge by later.
@@Alopen-xb1rb Absolutely, I am more intrigued on how we play our conference games. I think by the time we play FSU we will have an idea of what kind of year Miami is going to have. The Clemson game will be a good barometer of where Miami is at.
FSU won both ways portal and traditional recruiting. Number 4 on defense was recruited by Willie Taggart😬
@@pnut3844able the guy who made the play of the game was recruited by Willie Taggart
Defence has got to get off the field if we want to keep winning. This is the second game in a row where the other team controlled the ball for twice as long and time of possession
13 to 23 championship dbu past and present all time fsu haters keep hating
Regarding the Portal, you have two programs in very different situations. Florida State - had to utilize the portal- recruiting had fallen off the map while Clemson recruited in the top 5 year after year. But, Clemson is part of the portal whether Dabo likes it or not - they have lost players to the portal and that, obviously, affects top 5 recruiting classes.
THANK YOU!!!!! Josh, as smart as he is, seems to be ignorant to that. Should Dabo not go get 5 star HS players? It's not like Norvell chose to pick portal players over HS kids, he had 367 offers out for the 2023 class but no kids wanted to commit so HE HAD TO USE THE PORTAL!! It's literally that simple but ppl seem to forget that or ignore it bc it doesn't fit their narrative (here's looking at you Mr Pate)
Dabo does not use the portal. Period.
Clemson never has a top 5 class . Please look It up
@@johnwayne-vs7ub Clemson -class ranking last five years 11, 10, 5, 3, 10. Avg 7.8 FSU over the last 5 years Avg. 20.4 Last year #19 but look at the portal!!!
@@nedhill1242 didn't say he did, said he is part of it, like it or not, because he has lost players to the portal.
#36 makes the kick! He puts in the work! Play Quinn Dabo! Quit being so stubborn with a kid who’s been retired! No reason why not! We all saw him warmup at halftime!
Horrible game by FSU and they still won in Death Valley. Imagine if they actually put it together and play well. Whew! PS- Travis Hunter is not the QB for FSU. Words matter, Josh.
Yea we could’ve easily lost , need to get Travis healthy , w him running , the running game will turn around and we’ll be on fire.
@@elll4222 I think he means that FSU didn’t even play their best game yet , Clemson has got their guy in Klub, when he gets his feet under him he’ll be a good one.
@@elll4222Clemson has played nobody tech & state. How do you figure that line I'd top 3?😂 hold this L graciously
Clemson pretty much dominated the game except 1 FSU drive and 2 bad Clemson plays. Clemson threw it away. FSU won, but they didn't beat Clemson.
@nedhill1242 yea that's usually what losers say to make themselves feel better.
Clemson defense and roster was better than FSU. Coaching cost them this game. Prevent defense before half cost them 7 when FSU was stone walled. Playing for field goal at end of regulation. Mafah averaging 7 yards a carry and didn’t touch ball for last 5 min or regulation and overtime. 3rd and 1 in OT and two straight pass plays….. coaching was the difference in this game. Clemson roster can compete with anyone.
Good call the seminoles 🎉😂 well done !!!!
I know everyone makes mistakes but did you just call Jordan Travis Travis Hunter??
People talking about how FSU didn’t look convincing against Clemson and BC. Sorry, I don’t mean to burst anyone’s bubble but NO ONE has looked convincing. At least we have wins against very formidable P5 schools (LSU and Clemson). BC was a fluke game that caught us off guard + the entire team was sick (anyone who’s been in Tallahassee these past few weeks know there’s been a bug goin around). Everyone expected FSU-Clemson to be close-why? Because Clemson has only lost at home once before since the dawn of man (it feels like). That’s not an easy place to play. Throw in the injuries with Scott, Dent, and Travis and it becomes apparent that great teams find a way to win with a hand tied behind their back. We’re going to rest up these next couple of weeks and be locked in for the rest of the season
Yall should be #1 imo with Texas and OSU behind yall have the best wins really
Fsu beat a school that got destroyed by the basketball school duke, and also squeezed by Boston collef who took them inro the 4th quarter. FSU is still sus
A 2 lost team in the playoff I doubt it
Josh.. this game had nothing to do with the portal. Clemson looked better across the board at every position group. Including receiver!
But yea, generally speaking not using the portal only hurts your team.. but this game had NOTHING to do with portal. FSU did NOT look foreal…
Not to mention.. you look at the dynamic of the two teams. One is too 5 in port along and the other is bottom 5. The bottom 5 in portal looked like they had better athletes across the field..
That being said, Dabo, will without a doubt start to dabble .. but don’t expect flood gates. Will probably only get 3-4 portal guys next year, and in any given season would most likely cap it at 5ish.. just knowing Dabo and his call-it pride, ego, principal, “culture”.
My man said Travis Hunter lol
FSU will win the ACC
Those two drives that FSU scored TDs Clemson inexplicably went into a 3 down lineman prevent defense. FSU did nothing the rest of the day on offense.
Missing their best tackle, injured starter at center, injured best defensive back, injured QB just gutting it out to get to the bye week. Clemson had missing players as well. It was pretty even.
@@peytonponder8488lmao he didn’t even play that bad they just couldn’t score . that fumble return literally won then the game . travis hasn’t been playing that awesome outside of 4th quarter lsu game and then the middle school team fsu played bc and clemson had him contained a lot at some points
Difference in the game. Dabo was very upset at the time and mentioned it in the presser. Can't sit back and let a team pick you apart playing soft.
@@pnut3844able first of all bro take the U shaped frank out your mouth. I literally said both teams had injuries and it was about equal.
@@yoc329 Travis may have even regressed a little honestly. If he doesn’t start playing better you’re right.
Dabo is too cocky to admit he was wrong. He won't change.
Wrong? This is FSUs best team since 2014, it took a 6th year QB, a bought and paid for group of vets from the transfer portal, and a missed FG to get them out of there with a win. Congrats, but worry about FSU sustaining some success here. Clemson will be fine, that was our best offensive showing against an elite defense since Trevor left with a 19 year old QB and a 1st year OC. Love all these couch coaches whose teams haven't sniffed anything with the word Championship in it for 10 years talk about a guy who has won as much and as often as any active coach in FBS.
Dude, they won because they got the rare strip sack scoop and score. Without that, the stats make perfect sense. Clemson out played them all day long. But FSU benefitted from a lucky scoop and score and the fact that Clemson has real kicker issues. Clemson was easily the better team out there. But they made one more costly mistake than FSU did, and FSU took it. Doing what it takes to win matters, but you can't convince me the FSU is 'better' than Clemson was on that day.
Travis Hunter? Do better josh
AP Top10 based on 2024 Conference Membership: Big 10 = 6 (#2 Michigan, #4 Ohio State, #6 Penn State, #7 Washington,
#8 USC, #9 Oregon); SEC = 2 (#1 Georgia, #3 Texas); ACC = 1 (#5 Florida State); Big 12 = 1 (#10 Utah)
Josh. You need rest. You clearly your not at 100%
Josh Florida State is the Acc. Florida State was beating Clemson ass for years. Portal doesn't matter. Get off Dabo train.
Exactly. Clemson was no different than Louisville for us. These people are new to college football lol
@@EarlyBirdCraft Point exactly.
It took revamping the entire offense, a 6th year qb, and Clemson having record turnovers to win in OT. Fsu is still dogwater.
Dogwater that just played a C game and still beat Clemson?
Black T-Shirt… what the hell is going on? 😂
Get his name right
It’s not so much this one game being a referendum but the whole season as well as the last few. No doubt we’re in a decline. Love the move by Dabo to hire Riley. Now it’s time we upgrade position coaches and stop handing them out to his buddies. Time to use the portal and bring in 1 to 3 or 4 every offseason. Guys who can contribute and help not back up QBs.
Go Tigers! Fingers crossed Dabo will change!
Wish you had a segment where you ranked the best wins of the season.
Good idea
Clemson has lost 5 of their last 8 FBS games.
Clemson had PLENTY of Opportunities to Put Florida State down in this game and DIDN'T Do it.
Unable to Stop a 4th & 1 in the 2nd Quarter Up 10-0, The 1:50 TD Drive by FSU Before the End of the First Half, The 46 Yard Run Before the Fumble that led to a Florida State Defensive TD, Multiple Drives in the 2nd Half that led to Punts, The Obvious 29-Yard FG Yeeted by the Kicker (Who is probably WANTED in SC for Larceny and Fraud), and the Horrible Clock Management on the Final Drive before OT.
No Excuses. Clemson had opportunities to Put FSU on the Mat and couldn't pull it off.
Props to FSU for being RELENTLESS the whole game. Never at any point were they out of it.
Clemson had to play PERFECT Football for 60 Minutes and FAILED.
Just felt like a 'Passing of the Torch' Game. The Sack-Strip Fumble returned for a TD just symbolized not only Clemson's Year, but also will be weaponized against the Anti-Transfer Portal Crowd.
Clemson will still be a competitive team, just not for the CFP or ACC Championship.
I suppose the question for Clemson now is, "Can it get any lower"?, and I believe so if Dabo and the Tigers DO NOT Tread Lightly from here on out.
Appreciate the Take, Pate State!
Josh, I watch you a lot but you are out of your freaking mind on this Clemson FSU game. Clemson lost this game as they did against Duke. FSU was outmatched on both sides of the line of scrimmage as the data shows. Normally, line of scrimmage wins. If you watched this game as I did you clearly see why FSU never had a lead and it was Clemson that let FSU back in the game when it it was about to be a two score lead. One final note, as a Clemson fan, I'll take recruiting and developing over portal kids all day. Not saying that one or two in key positions could help but the odds suggest you better hit otherwise most don't pan out. FSU has become a portal program because they have had no choice. Kudos to Norvell for going all in to give himself a shot at success because the FSU fan base is not prepared to sit on another 5 years of mediocrity waiting on recruits to develop. But the question remains whether portal programs can be consistent winners. Sustainable? We know what recruiting and developing does and yes it is sustainable with the best coaching. The top programs in the country the last 5-10 years, Bama, Clemson, Georgia, Ohio State don't live on the portal, instead they recruit and develop better than any in college football.
Exactly what I been saying Clemson had turnovers that lost them the game against Duke, which had nothing to do with the portal however, Duke put themselves in the position to win that game due to the portal.
@@pnut3844able 3 star 4 year starter portal beat freshman 4 and 5 stars all day.