The Truth Behind the Happy Mask Salesman - Zelda Theory
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The Truth Behind the Happy Mask Salesman - Zelda Theory
Majora's Mask is easily one of the most mysterious games I've ever played, and one of my favorite parts of that mystery is the Happy Mask Salesman. Today, it's time we unravel that mystery and glean the true story behind both the Mask Salesman and Majora's Mask.
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Brain: Hey, are you going to sleep?
Me: Yes, I am. Shut up.
Brain: The Happy Mask Salesman is a caricature of Shigeru Miyamoto, and the moon is a metaphor for the constricting time constraints on the game's development.
Me: ('ʘ_ʘ')
Amazing comment! I can totally see how feeling the pressure of a not so far off deadline might influence the development process.
You blew my mind right there, buddy!
Me"shut up brain or I'll stab you with a cuetip"
Yooooo
That would explain how ridiculously nonsensical Nintendo games can be.
"the mask salesman glitches from one position to another. it's unsettling, creepy, and this is the only game in which he does this" i object, in ocarina of time he switches to his angry murder face when you are unable to pay him, similar to how he does it in majora's mask
Exactly. I would add, the fact that he mentions Link's courage means that he knows everything about his former quest (OOT). This contrast to all other Hyrule inhabitants in the child timeline who have no idea of what happens in the future. Hence, his existence is still a mystery in my opinion.
never knew he had an angry murder face in oot, always got rupees in my wallet 😎
Ghirahim borrowed his weird teleport mannerisms.
_Wait..._
Doesn't he do that in an earlier game too?
Yep. Because every other character in Oot had such clear transitions in thier facial expressions. Happy mask salesman was truly the odd one out.
Uh, nobody's gonna point out the freaking giant organ piano that he brings out when he teaches Link the healing song?
Yeah, how did that get there?
@@sunnyleeloo magic
This plays into a theory I have about him. I think the happy mask salesman is actually wearing a form altering mask like the ones Link acquires throughout the game.
Think about it. He not only teaches Link the song of healing which is how Link acquires them, but his piano seems to pop in from no where. Well we see this frequently with Link when HE is using such masks. The small ocarina becomes large cumbersome instruments like the deku pipes or the goron's drums.
What his true form is I do not know, but what if he is the last of this so called ancient tribe. It would explain why he knows so much about Majora's mask when it seems a complete unknown to everyone else.
That mask salesman’s soul being stripped from him and him becoming a puppet for Majora is a really cool idea!!! Great theory!!!
But what if the mask saleman was the soul in majora mask, or an avatar of adulthood humanform majora? Does it feel strange that the kids on the mood look exactly like a young version of him? I think the saleman is what majora look like before his soul was transfered in the mask. Nintendo could have take anyome face to do the kids on the moon, even the face od the kids in termima city. Instead they took the face of the saleman. I don't think that's a coincidence.
@@superduperalex5248 I think you’re definitely correct.
I hope the happy masks salesman comes back in some future game he's such a recognized character
same
If he did I doubt he would be anything but a shop owner and wouldn't have much of a role in the story anyways
he's probably wandering in botw dimension
No, the next salesman will be probably be a black trans woman
it wouldn't be nice if he reappears, since his mysteriousness is what makes him good character
Did you notice the kid wearing Majora's mask at the tree? It's the masked salesman's hairstyle. 😳 There's definitely more to this than what was discussed in this video.
I believe, going by this theory, the resemblance the Salesmen is simple: he was the first to be Corrupted and would become Majora's likeness.
I still believe the final part to this theory would be WHAT majora itself actually is. I believe for certain that whatever it was, it WASN'T always a mask. I think the mask was created with the sole purpose of being able to contain Majora, where it spread its roots and created Termina, until the Happy Mask Saleaman became a vessel for Majora to siphon off of and reawaken fully and play its first game with Ikana before the 4 giants showed up.
Speaking of which, I think one thing I've always wanted a solid theory of, is what the hell are the 4 giants and where do they come from. Do they originate to Hyrule too? If so, what is their reasoning for coming to Termina? Where they the only semblance of reality Majora had? Hense it becoming sad when they departed to their own domains in Termina?
I see this theory ironically as the second half of an incomplete puzzle where we must go back further to find out what majora is!
There's a couple of other videos that are super recent that goes into this, and perhaps even Breath of the Wild 2 will reveal more details on exactly how Majora works since its watchful gaze has been appearing all across the Zelda timeline (that I hope isn't an easter egg).
I personally love the theory also that states Majora's power only functions in Termina. Perhaps SPECIFICALLY now it resides in the mask. Maybe its remaining power was poured into the creation of Termina, being how it had seemingly infinite power there.
That being said, another argument people bring up is that Hyrule and termina must be connected because Hyrule is referenced in Majora's. I believe that's only a one way truth. I DON'T think Hyrule knows of Termina's existence and the video itself sorta explains how that could work.
@@Genasidal yeah, based on what we get, the mask only works in Termina, because in the lost woods when Skull Kid steals links Horse, he doesn’t seem to have any malicious intent, and is just playing a prank, same with stealing the Ocarina of Time, but when he gets into Termina, he becomes evil. I would also agree with the theory that the mask simply contains Majora inside of it, and I would imagine Majora as some sort of demon creature with the same general color scheme of the mask. I would absolutely love for this to be explored in later Zelda games, but I don’t think we’re going to get a sequel to Majora’s Mask anytime soon
I thought about too. A child version of him, maybe the original version when he came across the mask.
actually, all 5 children have the same model, and if we strip the masks from them we see the happy mask salesman's head model (not only the face but the entire head). fun fact
It is strange how Majora views the "Fierce Diety" as the 'bad guy' as if the fierce diety had something to do with its being sealed away.
while not canon in the manga its exactly this.
@@rendumguy7596 He tells link "you be the bad guy"
The japanes game called it even oni mask , it holds the bad memories and regrets from the people of termina.
@@ParadoxProblems and that “the bad guy always runs away.”
It's part of the sympathy you're meant to feel for Majora. It has the mind of a child, and feels deep loneliness and mistrust. Friendship and trust is a recurring motif for the mask: it attaches itself to the skull kid, already a lonely, dejected soul, and manipulates him into abandoning his friends and acting cold. When we enter the moon, majora is represented by children who just want to play, and who question morality.
What seems likely is that Majoras Mask itself was created with a childlike mind along with its vast power. It caused troubles, because it didn't understand right or wrong, and when the ancients sealed it, it felt betrayed. Abandoned for an eternity, it became bitter and hateful. It's mentioned that when the stone tower opened, Ikana Kingdom suffered from a peculiar curse: namely that feelings of friendship and trust vanished. As if once let loose, Majora spread it's hatred across the land.
Ultimately, it's not evil, so much as hurt and upset. It's lashing out in pain, not understanding why it was abandoned, and still sees itself as a lonely child.
It's possible that the ancient tribe built the fierce deity mask specifically to contain Majora, and that's how he was sealed away the first time. As such, he views the fierce deity as the villain
You could say the happy mask salesman... was met with a terrible fate?
Ayyy XD
I like this theory. It tells that Termina existed and is more than just a "parallel world" which is why Termina is referenced in other games. But the Termina we know is a warped version of itself as the kingdoms around the Stone Temple fell to ruin.
I also find it interesting that Termina is in the Lost Wood's. Myth IRL speak of Fairies living in other dimensions in the Woods. Time is different there.
Also, the Moon Children look like the Mask Salesman. It is as if the Mask reads the subconscious of beings it comes in contact with, and creates negative fantasies.
I love this theory, major props! As a fun side thought, perhaps the Happy Mask Salesman sought out Majora’s Mask because he knew it could give him eternal life...but then he didn’t foresee how it would use him as its puppet.
This is furder evidenced by Hyrule Historia explaining that Majora partially created the world of Termina
@Virginia Sloat what if it was not what it it
Hyrule Encyclopedia, not Hyrule Historia.
I always felt like the choppiness of his movements was supposed to give a sense that his face was itself a mask or at least mask-like in that it can only convey static expressions. It is not much of a leap to think this was a reference to the character Hexadecimal from Reboot. She was an earlier character who had a face based on theater masks who switched between static expressions to represent her mental instability. While there is no direct evidence that the reference is intentional, Reboot made international news as the first half-hour TV series animated completely using computer animation, so people trying to use 3D models in a cost-effective way might have looked to it early on for inspiration. It is a really cool effect which conveys the Mask Salesman's desperation very well.
I was about to think of the Happy Mask Salesman being a soul who was split from Majora's mask.
Like the Majora's Mask having an Evil side while the Happy Mask salesman being the Good side.
That is what i was thinking as well. But perhaps he had split up more than just good and evil.
Maybe he split his personality as well which can explain the children on the moon with similar design and he could have personality disorder from that seperation which can(maybe) explain his snappy moods
OWAHH Oooh
That's what I was thinking. He wants to stop his other half from causing destruction and preserve himself in the process, which would be why he just wants the mask back. In the end when the evil is destroyed, he sounds disappointed as if to say "I didn't want this to happen, but figured it had to"
I like to think that the mask salesman was actually one of the people who helped create the mask and was the only surviving member of the group after the mask was sealed. This idea would actually work well with your theory that Major's Mask created Termina because it would explain why he is the only Hylian that appears in both worlds, especially since the entrance to Termina is in the Lost Woods, a place adult Hylians should not be able to enter .
Neat idea. One could argue he does know a bit of magic considering his ability to make an organ appear out of thin air, as well as how he knows a magic song that can create masks out of souls...
The Song of Healing might be a separate discussion, but according to this theory, it would be ironic then that his own soul then became stolen by Majora’s Mask.
I actually had the same idea as well, so that's pretty cool.
To me this seems to imply 1 of 2 things... 1) he not only had a hand in creating the mask but he also had a hand in destroying the land that he was from and was able to do something to save himself but was separated from Majora's mask in the process or 2) he was for an unknown reason traveling in either a different dimension or country or whatever else when the ancient land was destroyed and had nothing to do with its destruction... He also could have been traveling because he heavily suspected that the mask he helped create could cause mass destruction...
I think this is my favorite happy mask salesman theory I’ve heard!! Really well thought out, I’m totally convinced
Yes, I am aware there is a jumble of words pretending to be a sentence at the end of the video. I noticed this after rendering and didn't want to delay the video to fix it, soooo... yeah. Here's a readable translation: An official Miiverse message from 2015 teasing an appearance from the Mask Salesman in BotW.
@A B yeah, maybe.
@Hero of time Link Actually its officially a parallel world this is said multiple times throughout the hyrule encyclopedia intact on page 36 one of the very first things is this, also loads of other people have the same misconceptions about loads of other places visited throughout the legend of Zelda
When a theory makes so much sense, it scares you.
Why can’t he just be an happy guy who’s also and Mask salesmen?
Why can the lore forbid that?
Because he’s a creep and he’s up to something.
You kidding? He is sinister af.
You’ve never seen him go ape?
He shakes the crap out of Link.
Because it's Zelda and there's a freaking moon trying to kill everything
@@catdownthestreet I wouldn’t say the moon means to kill everyone.
Like the moon falling and destroying everyone is the equivalent of us falling on an ant colony and destroying it by accident.
I like to Believe that the Masked salesman was part of Demise's original army as his face is somewhat depicted in the intro of skyward sword. He was sealed in the whole game of Skyward Sword by the Goddess Hylia and her army (perhaps Majora's was a part of it? )
And the Happy Mask Salesman, who was in Hyrule playing as an innocent spy scanned Hyrule for the warp point to find Majora's mask.
Come to think of it, the song of healing takes the soul of a person, and forms it into a mask allowing you to transform into said person. The Masked salesman is the only one who knew to play that song.
Reason why I say soul is because of the Kamaro, and Gibdo Mask.
We know that Majora's Mask is a single entity, and not really a healed-mask since the skull kid did not transform into Majora, but instead, Majora took over the skull Kid's body, not to mention he talks and floats around on his own.
But the Fierce Deity mask...
Ah. too much to think about ''
What if the spirit in Majora’s Mask *was* a skullkid?
Edit: And the Fierce Deity mask had something to do with the Sages, or even holds their spirits? (I dunno, just throwing it out there 🤷♀️)
I think Termina is the alternate reality version of the Dark World, or in Termina's case; The Sacred Realm. Think about it; LTTP and Majora's mask are the games set directly after OOT, depending on whether the hero is defeated or successful respectively. More specifically, MM takes place in the child era, which would explain how "Termina" could exists without Gandorf already corrupting it. This is further reinforced by the fact that the adult era (the time line that continues after Gandorf is defeated in OOT) does not have any alternate worlds for us to explore at all. The adult era goes right into Wind Waker and then into Spirit Tracks, but there are no alternate worlds because it's presumably just a waste land and there's no reason for any stories to be set within it.
This is where BOTW comes in. It's place in the timeline presupposes a timeline convergence in which the three main timelines merge back into one over ten thousand years after the previous games. If this is true, then it would be the Dark World/Termina/Sacred Realm wasteland is now in a bit of a Shrodinger's cat scenario. This could have something to do with BOTW2's storyline if we indeed explore another world besides a more fleshed out Hyrule (which I sincerely hope we get to see!).
I wouldn't say the Mask sales man disappeared. It was running on a 64 bit engine with an expansion pack.
Great video. Thumbs up.
How did the happy mask salesman even scale the stone tower temple? The Ikana king said that hundreds of his best soldiers couldn't topple it so how was he able to?
MARIO MASK
@@xxxhero7275 HOLY SHIT I THINK YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING
@@thespectacularspider-bi1787why thank you bi
I always found the idea of the HMS knowing and explaining the song of healing pretty creepy... like every single mask hanging off his bag could be a dead creature... even Mario :P
Hold up,
The *C a l a m i t y* it caused? 🤔
Bro is that a dark souls reference?
@@obviouslykaleb7998 pretty sure it's a reference to BOTW my dude
@@wakerobin9215
That was the joke my dude
@@obviouslykaleb7998 Pretty sure I was just r/wooshed my dude
The statues in the opening room of the stone temple look like the head majora has in his third stage
Where do the Four Giants fit in, though? Especially when they're pretty much stated in-game to be basically the first Terminans to make first contact with a Hyrulean, someone who, according to this theory, came from the same land Majora's Mask itself came from?
Very interesting. It's also interesting you said this was intended for last Halloween bc I made a Majora's Mask theory for last Halloween that also ranked #1 for the 'Zelda theory' search term immediately after it's release like yours has now ;)
Haha, that is interesting! Guess the algorithm really likes some spooky Majora’s Mask theories.
@@Xenogamer yeah I guess so. Maybe google secretly loves Majora's Mask the most 😏
You didn't really present actual evidence for any of this, but I truly appreciate your enthusiasm on the subject. And I agree that there is definitely more to the mask salesman than meets the eye, I even have a theory of it myself. I'd love to have a face to face conversation about this.
As the Happy Mask Salesman, I can confirm that the mask did not originate in Termina. I found it, not in Termina...but not in Hyrule. I found it in an ancient land. And I am from Hyrule...the same salesman you see in Castle Town. Every Hyrulean with a Terminan counterpart has a different name and profession...except for 1 - yours truly. And I can assure you that Majora's Mask did not create Termina. It cannot create. It can only play and consume and destroy.
But I appreciate the admiration :D
3:30 GREAT observation! I never noticed the majoras mask emblems in the stone tower boss battle
I like how plausible this theory actually is,it also leaves room for a rematch with Majora, since Ternina didn't go the way of a certain island,,,and the mask sailsman technically only said the evil left the mask,what if the whole battle was a trick to free the monster from it's container?
I don't think the HMS is immortal or anything like that, I do think he recently unsealed Majora's Mask, but the rest of the theory... fits the evidence disturbingly well. I absolutely love the idea that the Mask created Termina from the darkness it was sealed within.
When we first enter Termina, is _is_ through a location in Hyrule, and not just that: it is within a location called the "Lost Woods", which is cursed that one will die and turn into another defender of what lies at the center. Perhaps the entrance was chosen for this reason, the Woods were cursed as another layer of protection, the power of the seal let some evil leak through? But Link finds his way in either way, and descends...through darkness. Runes passing by, until he reaches an area...almost unformed, as if on the edge of creation?
Also, what if the Stone Tower Temple is both a creation of Majora and the Sages' final attempt to seal the Mask? The imagery idolizes the mask, gives a flaming finger to the gods in the sky, and desecrates imagery of the goddesses' most powerful artifact: the Triforce. We don't see Majora or the Triforce feature anywhere else that the Skull Kid hasn't directly meddled.
The STT is the center of creation, radiating outward from the last ditch effort of the Mask's actual prison, the entire pocket universe of Termina. It grew starting over a thousand years ago from the arbitrary point the Mask existed within, with the Mask exerting direct power over either reality itself or the ancient Ikana people to create a giant "fuck you" to those who imprisoned it, but the temple was still a prison. The world expanded further and further, and eventually Majora - purposely or not - created the Garo people, who would try to steal the Mask from its prison and inadvertently free it. This failed, and all that was left of its machinations was a dead land.
Then the Happy Mask Salesman, whatever his origins, came along...
This is a great theory and I found myself finishing your sentences before you did, just because….well it makes perfect sense. I’d love for Majora to have another adaptation in a game. Even if it’s not link fighting. Like a prequel to the game showing more of its origin. This game is by far one of the best they’ve ever made. Imo.
I know this may seem a little far-fetched, but is it possible that the Fierce Deity mask was made from the sages of Oot, or maybe, even holds their spirits?
I just thought it up and wanted to throw it out there
i love the xbc music. this is one of my favorite tracks from the game. a destroyed city and lifeless guarded by machines. the music at night is so beautiful. i love the vocals
The HMS is in the intro of SS, standing around Demise and his goon squad of demons, who came from “fissures in the earth”. Then you have ALBW’s MM Easter egg in Link’s house, the raving madmen in the town trying to become demons via masks(also appearing on the box art). It’s implied ‘the tribe’ in MM is probably a reference to these demons. The HMS flickering around light an old fluro light is due to his relationship with MM, like Smeagol in LOTR....
My theory is that either:
A) the sentience/ consciousness of Majora, via carrying MM for so long affected the HMS to the point where although he was assisting Link, Majora was acting through him like a puppet (like Puppet Gannon or Twili ‘Puppet’ Zelda) and his actions weren’t noble; he was getting Link to help him free himself of Majora’s grasp. OR
B) The HMS, in essence is Majora’s projected self/ consciousness/ spirit/ part thereof, which is why for most of the game he only exists in the Clocktower, is only seen by Link and Skull Kid (who both originate from Hyrule) and why he simply walks off and fades into thin air at the end (perhaps he/ his spirit either moved on or were released after Majora’s defeat).
Interesting Idea I had when you showed the Fierce Deity Mask, what if it was an ancient Shiekah who sealed Majora away and this idea of Good Guy's and Bad Guys is actually a recreation of his Banishment to Termina. That's why despite the mask being a culmination of every soul in Termina it visually looks like a Link Shiekah. Support for this also is the fact Yiga (ex-shiekah) in Botw use similar swords and armor to what the Fierce deity use. They're not identical due to colour and size but they are very similar.
One way to look at it is that Majora is Terminal's version of Demise, with the Fierce Deity being the counterpart of Hylia.
If there were ever a superboss that Zelda could do that would be really hard it would a a mask salesman. Maybe not The Happy Mask Salesman, but a mask wearer. Like something in the upcoming botw sequel. You could have a really tough enemy who has tons of different mask they put on to change forms in a long aggressive fight!
The weapon salesman in the bazaar in Skyward Sword looks like the happy mask salesman, though he does not sell masks.
How do the two look similar? Especially when considering that the Bazaar salesman in question has an identical Terminan counterpart in the form of the Town Shooting Gallery owner?
I appreciate that your lore videos actually use GAME DIALOGUE unlike a lot of Zelda lore youtubers. They leave so much out that make me like “did you even play the game?”
I've always thought that the Happy Mask Salesman, was a deity of sorts, be it a minor one certainly nothing compared to the Golden Goddesses, which explains how he teleports around, seems to know things that no one else knows, and how he can materialize an entire organ instrument out of nowhere. Perhaps he was put in charge of safeguarding Majora's Mask and hopefully one day finding a way to eliminate the evil inside the mask, and when it was stolen from him, it all worked out, though his disappointed because he didn't do it himself.
1:49, good find.
the triforce was removed in the 3ds version though, maybe they changed their minds about it
theres something to be said for the pieces of shigeru miyamoto that are left in these games; the happy mask salesman was based on him, and the elegy of emptiness statue was based on a childhood photo of him. the happy mask salesman's demeanor sheds interesting light on aonumas feelings towards him during the development cycle of mm
Happy mask salesman in OoT: I do not understand economics
Happy mask salesman in MM: _The right man in the wrong place, can make aLL the difference in the world_
One minor point, the Ikana Kingdom fell because of their war with the Garo, which brings up themes of anger and violence always leading to death and destruction. The fact that the ghosts of the royal guards still bicker and fight after Link defeats them is indicative of the stubborn, combative behaviour that led to their deaths in the first place. If you blame the fall of Ikana on the Mask Salesman those themes are lost. I don't think that he opened Stone Tower 1000 years ago, but that the kingdom is desolate because of its own ruler's despotism getting out of control. I think that opening the Stone Tower to get Majora's Mask merely led to its dark influence bringing the dead back as the undead monsters that are seen roaming around when Link first gets there and that disappear when he completes the Stone Tower and lifts its curse on the canyon.
I love vids about the mask salesman! I always hope for his return in new games bc I honestly think he is the most mysterious and unsettling character in Zelda. I also think Im theonly one who wants that darn owl back...
Nope your not alone!
@@thatoneguyontheinternet9765 daww
I like a lot of the ideas you have but my questions would be about the giants. They always seemed like the creators of Termina so Majora creating them would seem contradictory to that and Majora's intentions. Would they be part of Majora's original game?
What happened in Ikana is the most interesting mystery about Majora's Mask to me. We know the Giants told their people to call on them if they ever had problems or were in danger, yet the Giant of the Ikana region was never called, meaning he must have been trapped and sealed within the Stone Tower Temple ages ago for Ikana to have become a land of the dead so long before the other 3 regions got threatened in the present day/recent time period of the events of Majora's Mask.
The Happy Mask Salesman seems like his face is a mask and the shifting/glitching of his face is him switching masks. I have ideas about what is underneath the mask that I've wanted to make my own theories of for years but the burden of video editing has so far prevented me from doing that.
I actually think this is a really sound theory
Okay since there was no Termina in the past Zelda games, what if in Tears of the Kingdom, Link heads to Termina to practice using the “gifts” that his new hand gave him. Or he heads to Termina to try curing his malice hand.
Ever notice the mask man's laugh as the game is loading?
1:41 look closely and you can see the sheikah eye symbol on the wall, I believe the termina sheikah created the mask. Midnas helmet has a similar eye pattern from the mask and then a sheikah eye on the back. Coincidence?
I think you are on to something , perhaps the salesman is a sheikah or perhaps yiga!?
Me playing Majoras Mask and talking to the Mask Salesman= totally immersed in the game
Me spots Marios Visage at the back of the Salesmans Backpack= immersion destroyed
But if Majora's Mask created Termina, why doesn't it disappear when it's defeated? Also what about the giants?
I look at it as the creator and the world aren’t one in the same, so when Majora is defeated the world can still live on. As for the giants, they could be another tool designed to level the playing field for Link. Majora wanted someone who could actually stand a chance against it, it saw things as: if there’s no chance of failure, there’s no satisfaction in winning.
technically disappears, hyrule encyclopedia mentions this.
It's a fun theory. Some of its parts feel like a big stretch, but it's still widely entertaining
This video was awesome!!! I really like how it ties in aspects from all over the game. Majora’s Mask is my favorite Zelda game so I’m happy to see videos about it lol
To me the glitchyness to the happy mask salesman felt like he was similar to a mask or puppet... Or that he was the avatar for something greater, something that we cannot see... Or maybe it's a little bit of all these put together...
I'm willing to believe that stone tower was where majoras mask was sealed
Is it too much of a coincidence that the kid in the moon wearing Majora’s Mask looks like a kid version of the Happy Mask Salesman?
In the book, fierce deity link call the mask salesman a demon when he shows up. So yeah, it was he's game or a key ruler of it.
I would be wondering if mask salesmen reincarnated just like link and ganon. He appeared in the fallen hero timeline, the child timeline, and maybe if you want botw as kilton.
It might be a thought that majora reincarnates the salesmen
Idk just a thought :)
I mean, Ganon is chaotic evil, Link chaotic good. Majora, chaotic neutral? There’s a lot of wtf ‘whose motive is this’ in Termina which may have help inspired all the comments stating it felt weirdly like real life in that things just happen and some are yay and some are nay.
I think that the happy mask salesman from mm isnt the counterpart of the one in oot, but a creation of majoras mask, serving the purpose of being a connection to hyrule and a way for majora to interact with it. he can do this creepy stuff in majoras own world, termina because majoras grants him the power to do it, wich it can't do in hyrule, because it has no power over this
Ikana is also associated with majora as the secret shrine has majora imagery
He doesn’t glitch from one position to another. He was made like that.
I always had a theory that the Happy Mask Salesman is the Creator of all the ...goddess, triforce ,hyrule, demons , demise , etc etc and became a watcher of sorts , and that somehow in the past he witness majora birth and disctruction thus created termina within hyrule and kept hidden which is why he also created the lost woods to keep people from finding it and to contain majora and took one of the version of Link and gave him great power to fight and seal majora which in turned made the fierce deity mask
I think Termina could be part of Lorule, so the Triforce being inscribed could make sense.
I've made an AU where Link Between Worlds takes place long before Majora's Mask. In my AU, I think the Lorulian Sheikah Tribe became the Cult of Masks, similar to Hyrule's Dark Interlopers. The Cult of Masks at some point created Majora's Mask, and after that...
My memory of Hyrule's myriad races is faulty, so I could be wrong, but if the Cult of Masks became the Kingdom of Ikana?
Link's falling into Lorule has a similar color aesthetic to the Breaches, so there's that too.
And if Majora's Mask is the Lorulian equivalent to the Fused Shadow... Who then, was Majora? And who was Majora's counterpart?
This theory is insane, it makes sooo much sense... I love the idea that majora was out to be challenged by a worthy opponent in a game with somewhat fair rules
If I enjoyed playing majoras mask then does that make me Majoras mask? Cause I enjoyed......*playing this game*
Loved this theory! Majoras mask is such an interesting game
This guy is EXTREMELY underrated ngl
to add to the theroy the kid that majora uses to represent himself has the same hair and genral look as the mask sailsman
If Stone Tower Temple is a location in Termina and Termina is a creation of Majora's Mask according to this theory, then how could the Happy Mask Salesman get to Stone Tower Temple if it's in a world that doesn't exist until after the Mask is freed as a result of the Happy Mask Salesman obtaining it from where it is sealed?
I agree the Mask is a product of ancient Hyleans and was sealed by the Sages, but it could not possibly have been sealed in a location that doesn't exist until after it's seal was broken and freed. I believe it is quite possible the mask was held in either the Forest Temple in Hyrule. For one, the Forest Temple is nearby the Lost Woods and is seen to be a well defendable location that has a hidden basement accessible by an elevator but nothing of note within this hidden area aside from the dungeons boss room which bears similar shape and iconography to that seen in the sage's domain. It is quite possible that as adult link was flung 7 years into the future, the Mask which lay sealed within the temple in this hidden basement was found by the Happy Mask Salesman and taken. As the Happy Mask Saleseman departed, venturing into the Lost Woods, the mask was stolen from him by the Skullkid and the now young Link resuming his childhood after defeating Ganondorf in the future runs into the Skullkid now donning Majora's Mask.
Happy mask salesman has the exact same haircut and ears as the child in the moon wearing the mask.
I had always thought of the Happy Mask Salesman from Ocarina of Time and the one in Majora's Mask to be one and the same. Even suggesting such in a stop-motion mini movie I did a while back where the Mask Salesman in Castle Town is shown to have Majora's Mask in the back of his store and says that the mask is not for sale and that nobody should even bother asking if it is for say, with the screen fading to black, followed by a line saying "I mean it!" at the end.
I had done a theory video more recently about how the mayor's receptionist at the residence could be Saria's terminian counterpart.
Is it me or is the Happy Mask Salesman not just Miyamoto? He has the Mario mask
Great spooky theory glad I got back here to see it. Thanks for sharing
The head of the majora demon is the same as the head in the rock tower
Termina is the result of Low-Rule being corrupted by the Darkness after it's queen destroyed their universes version of the Triforce
Maybe he is representing Miyamoto regarding how MM was developed (short time because of the 1 or 2 years of development, stresssful because he came after OOT and at the same time as the PS2 launch etc...). And Miyamoto is known as a fun guy in the first feeling but at work he is very demanding. As this guy in MM.
Kinda thought it was a stupid theory at first, but it does make sense. I mean, majoras mask can literally control a giant moon, who’s to say he didn’t create the entire termina world that you’re experiencing.
I thought this was great! Great take on the Mask salesman.
I believe a Garo war party were the ones who opened the doors via rituals to unleash darkness upon Ikana as they were fighting esch other for quite some time it seems. During war, factions might be able to pull amazing feats in order to best or beat their enemies. In this case, unbeknownst to the Ikana kingdom, a possible small war party of soldiers, shamans decided to break off from the fight and head towards the location were the Stone Tower temple sits at. There, they were able to break the seal and unleash the contained terrors that destroyed the kingdom and cursed it forever. Ever asked the question why there are still Garo soldiers lingering around the Ikana Kingdom?
Honestly, the Garo don't seem all that evil. In fact, they're pretty honorable, so I can't really see them as the ones responsible for the curse on Termina/Ikana. The Garo are described as spies from an enemy nation sent to investigate the recent dealings in Ikana, and I think after the fall of the kingdom, they were tasked by the Goddesses or the Four Giants to guard the stone tower and the light arrows found within from anyone unworthy of using them. There's a theory by hylian dan that suggests that the seal of majora's mask was broken not by the happy mask salesman, but by whoever built the stone tower, that they blasphemed the Goddesses and committed atrocities so terrible that the Goddesses themselves cursed them by flipping the tower upside down and sending them to the world where Majora's Mask was contained. They took the mask back with them, thus breaking the seal and dooming all of Ikana, and by extension, Termina.
@@dayshallcomeagain This assumes that the tribe that used Majora's Mask in the past, and the tribe that sealed it away, are two different groups.
> "The Happy Mask Salesman: the hardest character to pin down in the entire Zelda series."
You've never met Tingle, have you?
While I disagree with the premise, it's still rather informative. I think the Mask Salesman "glitches" because it's a very Japanese thing. It adds personality and makes him very memorable given he's only in like 3 cutscenes and a brief flashback.
This is my favourite theory so far!
“The Calamity brought about by Majora’s Mask was so great that our ancestors who feared this sealed it within the eternal darkness.”
A “calamity” you say? Sealed in darkness? Could Majora have been connected to the source of the malice in BOTW?
I wonder if the happy mask salesman played the song of healing for a dying/dead Majora to turn it into a mask? Though that contradicts the idea that it already existed as a mask for over 1000 years
This is actually a really great theory and makes a lot of sense!
I was always of the opinion that termina was another country that was in the direction of the lost wood from ocarina of time and that the events of majoria's mask would affect the whole world just like the golden gods created the world as a whole. Also one last thing about the happy mask salesman is able to move and change his emotions in a flash in every game he appears in.
Saying that the ancient ones were destroyed by majoras mask in the Japanese text does what to prove they were native to Hyrule? I’m genuinely not seeing the connection
Also, if Termina is a world created by Majora in an entirely sealed away dimension, how exactly does the Mask salesman just walk into stone tower and grab it, breaking the seal?
Fun video but the theory has too many obvious holes for me to really play around with the idea in my little head canon.
This theory is sick
Nice work man
If yall look at the hair of Majora when hes at the tree inside the moon, has the same hairstyle as the happymask salesmen.
Definitely a fun theory! Thank you for transporting me back to my first Zelda game :)
I wonder the mask sales man is disappointed that the evil in the mask is gone due to Majora taking his soul and since Link defeated Majora there’s no way to get his soul back
Good theory Xeno. I always thought Majora could have been the leader of the Garo. Just the way they act, they're all dead, and they're mysterious like Majora. Well as far as the Mask Salesman, he's a bipolar fuckin' nut job. Good video as always Xeno, Take care Dude!!
Theories are fun but.. to those arguing the parallels and what not.. it is canon.. the official canon is that ocarina of time has 2 possible endings (3 if you include wind waker). Link winning and Link losing.
Majora's Mask is the immediate story of Link after he wins against Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time... c'est tout.
Wind Waker is Link remaining as an adult after beating Ganondorf.
A Link to the Past is the story we get if Link loses(death not confirmed) in Ocarina of Time.
Want a mindfuck? Breath of the Wild exists in all 3 timelines.
that laugh always creeps me out
One thing I’ve thought about since I’ve started watching a lot of Zelda lore, what if that ancient race that was destroyed were actually the Zonai mentioned in Breath of the Wild?
My brother was friends with one of the developers and they told him that the Happy Mask Salesman is actually dead, a ghost.