I always thought the empty space between the Triforce pieces was symbolic. The emptiness of desire, the granted wish, and the lack of connection with the other virtues. Ganon, with his desire for power, blinding him to balancing his power with wisdom, and lacking the courage for direct confrontation (His constant need to seal himself behind elaborate barriers instead of directly confronting the hero at his weakest.). Zelda and her desire for the wisdom to be a kind and compassionate ruler and to save her kingdom, but lacking the courage and power to do so without relying on the chosen Hero to assist her. And Link, with his desire for the Courage to save everyone, but lacking the power to do so and relying on the wisdom of others along the way. Having Link complete the trials laid out before him in the dungeons, and facing Ganon's minions allows him to to balance and connect all three of the virtues, so when all three pieces of the Triforce come together he is able to fill that emptiness. And how does one fill the emptiness of desire? With a wish.
I never understood why Zelda ended up with the triforce of wisdom. It's not a wise decision to try to control the power of the gods, and it's also not a wise decision to have Link pull the master sword out of its pedestal when only Link can pull the sword out of its pedestal, basically meaning that if Link never tries to pull the sword, Ganondorf is fucked and can't get the triforce because the sacred realm doesn't open until someone pulls out the sword.
Void (ku) is a core element in Japanese mythology. “it represents those things beyond and within our everyday comprehension, particularly those things composed of pure energy before they manifest; the emptiness that the energy is made up of.”
I may confess I'm tired of so many Fierce Deity origin theories. But yours is quite original and interesting. Link's father being the person behind the mask is poetic. Though I'm bothered by it being so "new". I'd expect something along the lines of the manga, an ancient hero from thousands of years ago.
Probably the original Link that destroyed Demise... Which also explains the white hair. If he grew old and they decided his power needed to be sealed in case it was needed to aid a future hero in case Demise came back they could've done it when he was old and grey.
@@OfficialJuggaloJesus yes i mean he had the triforce with him , maybe he wished for be able to protect the land that he surely loved so much , the result could be the mask.
@@heylisten4967 it would kind of fit with the story of the Hero's Shade too how he is basically a restless spirit that was the OoT Link. If Fierce Diety is his own kind of restless spirit which seems like he would be since all of Link's transformation masks were restless spirits to begin with then the Hero's Shade could be the grown Link who lived after Ganon's defeat... It even explains the connection with the Song of Healing after you get the Howling Stone... Im personally hoping that BotW 2 expands on all of this in more detail since BotW 1 was so closely related to Majora's Mask with the 4 major temples, 4 beasts, the appearance of Majora and the Fierce Diety's Mask and other things. I personally am expecting it to tie in with Skyward Sword with its heavy emphasis on the sky in the newest trailer but Id definitely like to see it also tie in with Twilight Princess and for them to maybe bring back the Oocca Race and explain why there are Zoras AND Rito coexisting at the same.time when the Zoras were supposed to have evolved into the Rito after the flood (Which 100% sets BotW after the flood on the timeline).
@@OfficialJuggaloJesus l think will have some ties with skyward x twilight princess , due lot of hints like the magic hand reminds the twili magic , the sky seems like very similar to the skyloft , and i saw too some references to four swords and minish cap with vaati . I remember read that the ritos from botw was inspired by the wataras from oot manga , the designer said it , so maybe doesn't have any tie really with the zoras in this story , also in zelda original games we had the fokka , another bird race of warriors that was protecting the triforce of courage. I honestly think that botw will be kinda of an own timeline or the Nintendo will never give a real answer really to keep making games without worrying .
Man.. the fact that there are still retrospectives and theories about this game being made 21 years after its release is insane. Not only does it show how much detail in this game, but it’s the perfect example of how to create interesting mysteries that never get solved but still add to the nuance of the game.
Here's my theory, which comes mostly from Gamtos's theory "Majora's Mask-as seen by Gamtos". Majora's Mask was originally created by the ancient tribe-perhaps called Majora-and originally was just a regular mask of wood and paint. No soul resided within. It was empty and lifeless. The ancient tribe who coveted this mask wanted to create an object that could give its wearer great power, but to do this rituals were required. The ancient tribe performed many dark rituals, forcing many unwilling victims to don the mask and suffer from these hexes. With each ritual, the mask itself gained more power. But it was not enough. The tribe wanted more, and so the rituals continued, increasing in violence and quantity. With each hex, the mask itself gained more and more power, and eventually from this suffering-this pain-this hate-this anger-this insatiable desire for power, destruction and suffering-Majora was born. In Japan, it's a common trope in folktales that a place or object that is filled with negative energy, such as a grudge or cursing someone, can become possessed by evil. Majora was born from this. It is not so much a single entity as much as it "contains the residual feelings and memories of every tribe member or victim that were involved in the hexes" according to gamtos. This is perhaps why in the final boss fight, Majora's Mask fights in a childlike manner similar to the skull kid. It based itself upon a part of the skull kid's personality, explaining it's childish demeanor. Majora's Mask is this evil, that was born from the dark rituals, malice, and grudge poured into it. It is the epitome of darkness, hate, greed and pain. Eventually, Majora's Mask ultimately became even too powerful for the tribe to control, and the evil within lashed out, slaughtering every last one of the tribe members involved, destroying the clan entirely. It used its victims to cause more chaos, controlling them in a way very similar to skull kid. The chaos it caused, this calamity, eventually became so great it caught the attention of the hyrulean sages, who after discovering the mask, sealed it away in the Eternal Darkness so that it would not be misused. But what of the Fierce Deity? First off, it's important to know just what a Fierce Deity actually is. The term "Fierce Deity", comes from the Buddhist faith. In Buddhist legends, Fierce Deities are said to be wrathful, terrifying forms of enlightened Buddhas, who destroy obstacles to enlightenment as well as guard confused sentient beings from demons who wish to assail them. The Fierce Deity's Mask's somewhat sinister appearance as well as Link's misinterpretation of the mask as evil matches well with how westerners viewed fierce deities, so much so that they thought that those of the Buddhist faith worshipped demons! However, this couldn't be further from the truth. Another thing of importance is the symbolism behind where Link obtains the Fierce Deity's Mask: Under the shade of a large tree in an open field, which matches particularly well with another Buddhist tale where the Buddha achieved enlightenment while sitting under the shade of a large tree while being assailed by distractions sent by Mara, the enemy of all enlightenment. But the only way to obtain this mask is by obtaining all masks in the game(save for the transformation masks) and giving them to the four moon children, who one by one disappear. Much like the distractions of Mara, these children represent challenges that Link must overcome in order to achieve enlightenment. The Fierce Deity is not some separate being from Link, not some ancient war god who fought with demon lord Majora some centuries back. The Fierce Deity is Link. Just like how Mara challenged the Buddha to defend his claim of enlightenment through which the Buddha touched the earth and the land itself cried out "I bear you witness!", the moon itself is giving Link physical proof and acts as a witness of Link's enlightenment through the Fierce Deity's Mask, explaining the appearance of the symbol of the moon on his chest plate. Aonuma, when asked what spirit resides in the fierce deity's mask, said "The best I can give you is just a suggestion. The best way to think about it is that the memories of all the people of Termina are inside the Fierce Deity's Mask." A Gossip stone in the game also mentions the Fierce Deity Mask saying, "The Fierce Deity's Mask, a mask that contains the merits of all masks, seems to be...somewhere in this world." In the game, every mask you obtain is said to be filled with a kind of emotion, kind of like how Majora's Mask was filled with hatred, greed, etc. But this is different. Rather than negative emotions, these masks are filled with positive feelings and memories, such as love, happiness or gratitude, given by those you helped on your journey. This corresponds with the mystical energy in Zelda called Force. Force is a sacred power that dwells in all living beings in the universe, and can be physically manifested through strong emotions, in the form of force gems, gratitude crystals, and the like. The Fierce Deity's Mask is one such creation, created by the feelings of gratitude and love that fill the masks you have collected over the course of your adventure. "The masks you have are filled with happiness. This is truly a good happiness." -Happy Mask Salesman. This joy, when fused together, created the Fierce Deity Mask, which through it, Link is capable of totally wiping Majora's Mask from off the face of the earth(or moon in this case). But though the Fierce Deity's Mask is powered by Force, Majora's Mask is powered by its polar opposite: Malice. And in Gamtos's words: "Malice is energy formed from hatred and despair. It is the hatred of the Demon King, Demise, towards everything made by the Goddesses. It is the darkness in the hearts of men that fascinated and corrupted Vaati. It is the soul flame of pure hatred the poes carry in their lanterns. It is virtually every part of Calamity Ganon's being. And it is the result of countless hexing rituals of an ancient tribe. The anger, despair and insecurities of a lone imp. The tribulations of a land destined to fade, where friends can't seek forgiveness, guardians and heroes become powerless, and total destruction is drawing ever nearer on an unstoppable path. That is the power that fuels and possesses Majora's Mask."
I think the game is elevated in that it's an isolated story apart from its scant few connections to Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. Also, Shigeru Miyamoto doesn't really write stories anymore, so if there were a prequel it would likely be out of line with the initial writing philosophy of Majora's Mask. In other words, it would be a bit like how Hollywood is always going back to beloved films and producing inferior prequels and sequels. Also, the uncertainty and vagueness of MM's storyline are crucial to its atmosphere and feel.
I do believe somewhere out there there is info confirming Nintendo and Miyamoto straight said the Tetraforce was not a thing and that the extra triangle was just a design thing, which was why it was removed later. BUT I do love the 'what if' concept behind this theory! I think it's interesting! I think they need to do more with Majora and Fierce Diety so we can have more to their stories!
If anyone ever does find this comment from Miyamoto, please let me know. I'd love to see it. It just feels very much unlike him to directly comment on a theory and shoot it down since a big part of their philosophy with Zelda narratives seems to be leaving them ambiguous and letting fans fill in the holes.
I have no idea where to find it, but, yes, I do remember Miyamoto personally debunking the tetraforce. It may have been a Q&A event with fans in the mid-2000s, but I'm not 100% sure. I'll admit, though, this theory is very good. I wish they'd make the tetraforce canon. I'd love for BotW2 to bring it up ... So many comparisons were made by the production team between LoZ (which only had 2 pieces, power and wisdom) and BotW that the sequel has the perfect opportunity to introduce a new piece, much like AoL did with courage. Heck, chaos would make sense with the state of the BotW world.
@@Xenogamer The fourth triangle was metaphoric for 'Wholeness'. The three virtues are perfect but lack balance. The forth, was to symbolise the Holder of the Triforce. Making a 'Whole, of Goddesses and Man'. Least thats how my Diddy Animist mind growing up saw it anywho. As Triple symbology is represented like this often in my culture. The bottom triangle, the 'God'. Is Merely Man/Human. The potential bearer, below the Goddesses, looking up.
in the art book " Zelda Art and Artifacts" they do mention that the triangle at the bottom really was just a design choice because it looked nice. and they felt the design of the Hylian shield was quite iconic that they tweaked it a lil bit for future games which is the one we know today.
I believe Majora was not an evil Goddess but perhaps the Mother of the other goddesses. You could call her the Goddess of Chaos but chaos is just change, ultimately she was the goddess of creation. The tribe he spoke of was the beginning of humanity, emotion, love, jealousy and that tribe wanted Majoras power. So the Fierce Diety was the one to Rip Majoras spirit from her power by creating a mask made of a piece of her body, seperating Majora from her power. This action is what released or gave birth to Din Farore and Nayru. Meanwhile, Majora hid within the realm of the masks power waiting for the ironic moment for a hero to arrive and bear the Fierce Dietys mask to take down the evil that had taken Majoras power. Honestly Majora is my favorite, there is so much mystery surrounding Majora. The Zelda creators have followed so many other stories and branches in the Zelda timelines except for this one, and i hope they dig more into its lore soon.
I think it's definitely a thing! the physical design is obviously there. 4 comes in often. There are 4 light spirits in TP iirc, and in WW, zelda's name is tetra.
@@stevenhicks7613 Tetra's name is because she's a reincarnation of the fourth Goddess, Hylia. That's what the triangle in the middle represents: the Goddess that once was, but will never be again.
How can peoples still dont know who is the wielder of the forth triforce piece ? I mean its obviously beedle, with the triforce of wealth, after all as link zelda and ganon, he makes an appearence from SS to BOTW, so, why dont you need it for the whole wish thing ? Well, beedle is the god of this triforce, as zelda is the reicarnation of the godess hylia, and as the godess hylia, he is a god below the three golden godess's "the god of wealth created upon the godess's work all the rupee's that everyone uses". (This went way too far)
Great theory, man! I thought it was really well thought out and put together. I really like the idea of Link's father playing a role, however small, within Majora's Mask, which is a game that has many thematic elements of Link attempting to regain the childhood he lost in Ocarina of Time. Having a connecting line back to a father he never had the chance to meet is really cool and thought-provoking. Also, of all the theories I've heard over the years regarding the Tetraforce, this is by far the most compelling and well thought out. Honestly, amazing job!
Regarding the Tetraforce theory, I noticed a while back that Hyrule's and Lorule's Triforces look like they could be slotted together to form a Hexaforce. And I wondered if maybe that was by design and each kingdom was only given half of the Goddesses' power.
Don't forget hyrulia and a probably destroyed lorulia. It's possible the empty space might refer to the embetween as the goddesses went up and down. Termina might be an actual terminal between worlds as it seems to reflect hyrule but also lorule but is missing the things that make those two unique. It's the sort of middle ground or standard world and as you go up you get closer to where the goddesses reside, as a sort of top of the world I guess and the lower the closer to the demon realm.
No. The goddesses created hyrule in a time of chaos. Majora isn't part of the triforce, he's why the triforce and Hyrule even exist: the goddesses stopped his chaos.
In the assumption that this is true (for the Fierce Deity), this would make sense. Of all the masks that Link transforms into another being/creature, it is the Deku, Gorgon, and Zora, "heroes" in their own right, with regrets. Perhaps the Fierce Deity (perhaps Link's father), had his own regrets, (not truly sealing/destroying Majora, or never meeting son/returning to his wife?) thus allowing Link to help the deity come to peace. Ah well, just a thought. Thanks for the video and thought ^^
What a fun theory! It makes for an incredible story. The Soulsborne lore enthusiast in me can't help but point out that Occam's Razor pretty well puts this theory to bed though. There are just too many assumptions here for it to be more viable over simpler theories. Plus, the manga is non-canon. (Otherwise we must accept that Volvagia was Link's childhood pet, and the lore is muddy enough as-is) That said, every Zelda theory is pretty much non-canon since they are unconfirmable. Your theory does exactly what all Zelda theories are meant to do: enrich a beloved story and setting. So even if the theory doesn't hold water, it is still worth every Rupee.
Dude, this theory was well crafted, beautifully told, and superbly executed by you. Thank you for letting me recapture that feel that I once had playing this game for the first time, cheers!!
Well likely the missing piece would be for the male Deity lost from their creation stories. Representation of chaos is not a bad idea. Because chaos isn’t necessarily evil it’s the primary fundamental element of free well/change which also could further link Gannondorf & Link as the twin aspects of that element. It could also link Demise as Twisted Child of chaos & the goddess of power.
In my opinion, the tetraforce could only exist when tetraforces of courage, wisdom, and power exist as well. The word 'Triforce' durives from the shape of each Triforce piece and the complete relic being a triangle. So the term 'Tetraforce' would refer to when both the Triforces of Hyrule and Lorule are wielded by the same person. Just look at the Triforce symbol that is unique to the title of A Link Between Worlds. Hyrule's Triforce and Lorule's Triforce form a rhombus, a quadrilateral.
but if you overlay the two triforces so the the bottom triangle of the Lorule triforce and the top triangle of the Hyrule triforce fill in the center of the other triforce then you get an hourglass... it all circles back to Hylia goddess of time, lol
I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't said that the 4th triangle is Hylia's piece but isn't in the Triforce because the 4th piece lives in the princesses of Hyrule, the only reason I say that is because the Force from Minish Cap inside Zelda is symbolized as a triangle
I would consider that Majora is Male instead of female, because of the trinity theory. With the Hyrulean pantheon is all female so it would be logic that the deity that would represent chaos and the fourth triforce piece would be the god of Chaos: Majora
Once you mentioned Tetraforce, I thought of Tetra from Windwaker. When she’s Zelda, she is beautiful, elegant, wise. When Tetra, she’s the opposite. Idk, just something I thought of within the first couple minutes of the video.
You can tell Majora's Mask is a great game by the fact people are still making theories about it decades after its release. Good and entertaining theory. Definitely heard less well defined ones.
The second theory on who sealed Majora is very compelling, as it mirrors the real mythology of the Greek Gods. The new gods come forth to defeat and seal the old gods of chaos. Other cultures have this in their mythology as well, such as Canaanite and Babylonian mythology. Excellently made video!
It's theories like these that remind me one of the reasons why I love this series and Fandom so damn much. I really like this theory probably my Favorite among the Majora's Mask theories
My opinion: If there is a Tetra Triforce, the fourth Goddess would have to be Hylia herself. I know people would argue that she is Zelda reborn and why doesn't she have the power of the Tetra Triforce. Maybe she had to herself from it in order to be reborn.
I think I found more proof for your theory. Look at the chest of Fearless Deity. You will see a moon on the left at a triangle all the right. I think this shows that the Fearless deity is a warrior of Termina which I think is symbolized by the moon. He is also a warrior of Hyrule which is symbolized by the triangle. Which makes him a warrior of both lands if you take my thinking into account.
It's also equally possible that the chaos that caused the hyrulean civil war was the spirit of Demise who by then had reincarnated as Ganondorf and could be influencing the land as a whole. It's also equally possible that the fierce deity itself is the God that created the final part of the tetraforce
While I don't personally buy into this theory, it is definitely well made. Good job Xeno. Since this is a topic on gods, I feel it necessary to point it out that the existence of many lesser gods are hinted at throughout the series. The sages of wind and spirit have gods directly involved with their elements, fire and forest also having "spirits" associated with them. In the same Dimension as Hyrule, in the lands of New Hyrule, is a god of light who fought against the demon Malladus, usually mistranslated into English as the spirits of good, whose force gem symbol is also seen on the light Medallion. These gods all have some sort of symbol connected to them, and the Fierce Deity follows this kind of by having both a triforce piece and a moon symbol displayed on his chest. While I think the triforce piece is a reference to Link's triforce of courage and the moon symbol to a connection between the deity and the moon, the triforce piece could be the missing "fourth piece" and a display of the power that the deity represents. Take it as you will, and sorry for the rambling.
If I'm understanding your reference correctly, you are referring to the bit of dialogue that the Fierce Deity's Mask carries with it "the souls of everyone in Termina" or the hopes and dreams of all the citizens of Termina. If this is what you're referring to, it does not seem to invalidate the theory and may, in fact, be a benefit to it. My main reason for saying this is that the way you receive the FD mask is by doing precisely what Link's father (who the theory states is the FD) would want him to do: be a hero and help those in need. Thus, the mask may only manifest after Link proves he is still the hero he was in OoT and one that can be trusted with the immense power granted by the mask. Additionally, the order and balance brought by Link in his journey could be another point in favor of the theory. If Majora truly is the lost goddess of chaos, the "villain" or "antagonist" for their story would be one who stood for order and peace and worked to undo all the chaos that was wrought. Thus, when Majora wishes to play a game of good guys and bad guys, it gives Link the mask of the "villain", the Fierce Deity. One of the few people in Zelda history (according to the present theory) capable of wielding the full Triforce, showing that he has innate balance, who received a portion of the goddess of chaos' power, turning him into the FD, and retaining a portion of his humanity and sacrificing himself in order to prevent Majora from throwing Hyrule into further chaos.
@@nicolaswarren3453 I wasn't trying to disprove this theory, though. Just pointing out something to be taken into consideration. That being said, I can actually see where you're going. And I like it.
but Eiji Aonuma already explained fierce deity is the collection of the wishes of the people pf Termina. In Japanese Shinto, strong emotions towards things or long lasting emotions towards something end up embedding that thing, and a spirit animates the thing with supernatural properties equivalent to those emotions and desires. The fierce deity is the hope and fighting spirit of all the people of Termina in their wishing to live
Termina was created by a replication of Majora’s experiences through Hyrule.So instead of TERMINIAN wishes they were HYRULEAN wishes.Fierce Deity was the manifestation of Hyrule’s inhabitants to stop the war and to live on in peace.That only got twisted and transferred to Termina BECAUSE it’s the parallel to Hyrule itself.
Nice video. But i have my own theory, which I believe to be right. My theory is that in the beginning, The three golden Goddesses Created Hyrule and Termina, and two Gods were created beneath them, Hylia, and The Fierce Deity (I'll name him Terminus), each god were to be deity protector of the lands, A third God, Which would later become demise, was created to watch over Lorule. A 4th god, Was created to occupy the space in-between, the nothingness, pure chaos, which was Majora. The third God loved Hylia, but she loved Terminus. Jealous and angry of these things, The god which would later become demise rebelled against the three golden Goddesses and Hylia, while Majora would attempt to rebel against the Fierce Deity. A great battle would ensue, where The Lorule god would eventually fall to the goddess Hylia, cast out as a fallen god, becoming demise, where Terminus, having defeated Majora and sealing his soul inside the Majora's Mask, was also fatally wounded. Hylia and terminus, who were in love, did not wish to separate. So Hylia would Seal away the Fierce deity soul inside a Mask, then she created the Mortal Hero of Hyrule, link, in the image of her Love. She gave up her life as a deity to reincarnate into a Mortal body, the princess Zelda, and Demise, swore to come back in a neverending cycle for revenge against The Golden goddesses, Hylia, and Link. So in essence, Fierce deity wasn't a disgraced god, but a Valiant heroic one, which would serve as inspiration for the Mortal he would become, which is Link and his many reincarnations
According to the Majora's Mask manga, Majora was a demon that fed itself from the desires of people, and promised to grant the wishes of those who could defeat him at his game. But after a while, he was tired of always winning, and wanted to die. A new challenger arrived, and started playing music. Majora was amused by this new entertainment and started dancing. The man played for three days straight, at the end of which the demon died from exhaustion. The man then carved a mask from the demon's body, which now contained its soul and power, and the song he had played became known as the Song of Healing.
You have a great theory with a great video, but there is some ginormous gaping holes in it. There's just too much guessing for random scenarios. There is no possible way that the Feirce Deity could have been Link's father, and having Majora just be the eldest being in the universe just doesn't make any sense. The scope of his terror just doesn't make any sense. And I'm sorry, but the Tetraforce theory is just not true. There is no evidence to prove that is ever has or will exist. The idea of a goddess of chaos and having the other three come to supplant it is fun, but has no evidence to back it up. Also your timeline for the events that supposedly happened is off. Another thing, it clearly says that the Hyrulean Civil War was fought for the Triforce and land. There was no evil influence poisoning their thoughts. Sorry for ranting on your theory, but I just don't think it has any plausible way of working
Really like this take on it. I've always had a thought that maybe there was a lost part of the tri force, To fill in the gap. The tri force is of equal parts, but putting them together as it is shown, even the slightest imbalance or shake, risks it losing its position. A 4th would make it stable and having an even platform to rest the top on.
If Majora was a "Golden Goddess" with a part of the TetraForce, that implies she had, at some point, a valued part to play. Such a person would not need to be punished or imprisoned. One wonders if Majora's original role was as Goddess of Change or Transformation, but became imbalanced or corrupted into the Goddess of Chaos. In this scenario, Majora becomes one in a long line of Trickster deities, many of which are seen as having valued roles, but many are also seen as ultimately too much trouble. Loki, for example.
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The 3 golden goddesses were described as being all powerful, so if Majora was the 4th, Link, even as the Fierce Deity, would stand no chance! If that was the origin of the fierce deity, the 3 pieces would be in Termina, because Link's father would've'd them when he was sealed. Majora is probably just the Interloper King imprisoned in his mask due to misusing dark magic & driven insane if it was the Hero of Men, who I speculate is the hero of the sky, that defeated him, while He & Zelda built Hyrule on the surface.
The triforce is referenced in a blasphemous way in the stone tower temple meaning those who built it despised the golden goddesses as it has statues that show someone licking the triforce. It's also stated in the story of the giants and the imp. That skull kid lat termina to go heaven so hyrule is a divine land that found above termina. So the stone tower temple maybe a reference to the tower of Babel. And the light arrows being holy flip the tower to prevent anyone from climbing it to heaven.
The last chapter of the Major's Mask manga actually describes (or rather shows) the origin of the "mask" itself. The was once a great dragon that lived alone in a barren, nearly empty, land. The land is described as "a strange world that was not moving, but not dead, either... but had not necessarily stopped." The dragon was described as living there alone for countless number of years (possibly forever), "Not being able to vanish from the world, but not able to live, either." _and_ was "left here by the _cosmos_ ." The dragon devoured all that came looking for it as anyone who claimed the dragon's armor would be granted their wish. Meeting a warrior after so long, the warrior made the dragon realize that it had been stuck in this empty land for so thousands of years... until the dragon admits that it grew tired of being alone. Upon this realization, the desires of all those the dragon had devoured began to merge inside him and his "first 'wish' has been formed!" which was to "Make my time move!!" From that point on, the warrior played on his drum non-stop for 3 days and 3 nights; during those 3 days and nights, it is described that "Time is being born", and "On the morning of the fourth day, at the same moment his breathing ceased, the world finally crumbled. In the end all that was left was his armor." The warrior then proceeds to carve the dragon's armor into the titular Majora's Mask. The chapter ends with the warrior saying "Your power has been firmly sealed into this mask. Your power will no longer be a menace. I hope you sleep forever." Overall, It does hint to the power within the mask being something that predates "Time", but it also indicates that there were people before this event so it seems to bring up more questions than answers.
Omg this is awesome, legit last night I was paying botw and engaged a Lynel whilst wearing Majora's Mask. I couldn't help but think about the lynels reaction when it realised I was an imposter and not Majora. It made me think about the origins of the mask and how it relates to Ganon and the Triforce, and I started thinking about the malice eyes and the MM3DS eyes in the boss fights... Let's just say I like where this theory is going, and I hope we get to see the full story in game. I'm forming a theory that BoTW will be a trilogy and in the 3rd we'll see how it all plays into huge lore story. Go Xeno!
Maybe the Fierce Deity is what would happen if the Goddesses had made Termina's version of the Hero's Soul into their Hylia-style God instead of Termina's version of Zelda's soul (assuming that they even made a version of Zelda in Termina), and it sealed itself into a Mask in the process of sealing away Majora (who would probably be more akin to their own insane version of Demise rather than Ganondorf). Or maybe Majora is an insane version of Zelda's soul (like what Lorule's Hilda could have ended up if she went a little further), which might explain why the Fierce Deity sealed it away instead of killing it and why Majora carried around the Fierce Deity's Mask.
I love these heavy speculation type theories. They always lead to some badass conclusions that sound waaaaaay cooler than whatever the community consensus might be, even if they may not be accurate. (I don’t think Nintendo will revisit this area of the lore anyway, so honestly anything goes with what info we’ve got) Like- this is dope as hell, so much that I might adopt it into my personal headcanon.
I'm pretty sure if you read the book/comic book up Majora's Mask it shows how majora was basically a dragon like creature that once lived for no reason in a plane that had no time that all it did was consumed. It wasn't until the Fierce Diety that came along, essentially tricked the Dragon with a song that made it dance for 3 days straight until it died and then he carved out the mask out of its scaled hide. Concealed it's power in The Mask.
I remember the fierce Deity's mask beeing described to contain the memories of everyone in Termina, my interpretation's that it accumulates the hopes and will of everyone and transform it into power. Basically it beeing created as an countermeasurement against Majora that becomes the hero Termina needs. Majora beeing a primordial goddes of chaos sealed by the golden goddesses is a great idea that actually goes in line with several theories, that tryed to prove Terminas existence as an actual part of the world and I find it fantastic!
The gossip stones in termina says that the fierce deity mask holds the merits of all masks and it is somewhere in the world which implies it already exists but it's being held by Majora. One could say Majora is the goddess of chaos but the events it puts into play cause Link to unify the world against it. He collects all the masks and gives them to the mask children which are impart a part of Majoras own power. So you give all the masks to Majora basically which proves you worthy to wield the fierce deity mask which Majora gives you after stating you don't have any masks that are powerful enough. Meaning if you keep all the mask you have said power. But if you sacrifice them to Majora it grants you a mask that holds the merit of all the masks you collect meaning it's equal to all the masks you had given up. So while Majora is the goddess of chaos it's playing a game in which it wants you to win so it won't have to destroy the world. You just have to do the work and pass the trials to prove that you can supplant Chaos with order. Think about the song oath to order. Your bringing order back to the land by playing it if you saved all the giants they come in unity to stop Majora.
@@sykune It sounds weird, that Majora creates disorder just so you can come and let you form order anew, but that's actually how many worldbuildings describe how destruction balances creation. The true opposite of Chaos is Void/Nothingness and Order is technically born inside of Chaos, so Majora giving room for Order is a convincing perspective.
In Link’s Awakening Switch, Link’s main shield (before the mirror shield) is the Hylian Shield. I also noticed that the sucky flowers don’t eat the mirror shield. Maybe because you can’t buy back a key item? Idk. Anyway, it’s really easy to kill them and get the Hylian Shield back. 2 hits normally or with defense clothes, 1 hit with attack clothes.
Bang up job, Xeno! Great tie in to your happy mask Saleman video. That was a very professional script, a creative theory and a cool video (that always helps the talking points connect easier). The parts about the fourth Triangle of the triforce, Amatsu Mikaboshi and the Fierce Diety Mask have really got my gears turning, I’m gonna have some great dreams tonight.
I mean the fierce diety does have either a tetraforce or that missing piece of the trifroce above his heart. So, that’s some crazy symbolism in itself tbh.
my personal theory regarding the twili is that the twili were trying to tap into the power of majora. that is why you see majora like imagery in all of their own iconography. they were also banished to the realm of darkness or as they prefer to call it, the realm of twilight. this also leads me to belive that skull kid and his two fairies represent majora, the people of hyrule (the light fairie) and the twili (the dark fairie). this would mean that at one point (probably during the civil war or some time just before ocarina of time begins) the people of hyrule also worshipped majora as well as the other goddesses, however like skull kid and the light faire, majora betrayed the people of hyrule and thus is why future incarnations of the shield from ocarina of time onwards never had the 4th Triforce on it. as the people had been betrayed by it.
Wait, Nauru is wisdom and Farore is courage? Then how come if the Dinrall spring is power like Din, Farosh’s spring is wisdom and Naydra’s spring is courage?
I really like the father spirit theory because it goes nicely with another theory of navi being link's mom. Seeing that the parents of the hero of time were made into a great fairy and a demi god make it so poetic and beautiful . the hero of time is one of the most unforgettable characters in the entire Zelda series, even if this whole thing is wrong it's still nice to think in a little head canon that link's dad was always at his side . it also explains the fierce deity looking like link but older
i always feel like that Minamoto just didnt think the backstory of the mask through, thats why we just dont know a whole lot about it. and also why it just never appeared again, canonically.
My idea about the gods in Zelda is that, besides the obious hierarchy, all of them have a role involving said hierarchy: 1st Rang) There's a god of Law, who makes the rules that prevents conflict between all the gods; 2nd Rang) There is the Duo of reality I'd like to call the "Architect of Realms"/God of Space & "The Historian of Worlds"/Goddess of Time; 3rd Rang) The Golden Goddesses as Goddess of Creation; The counterpart to the golden Goddesses beeing a Goddess of Destruction/Goddess of Chaos; 4th Rang) The Minor Gods like Hylia and Cia, that preserve the order of the multiple worlds and protect them from unwanted influence; Demise could be their counterpart, as an God of Disorder; 5th Rang) Servants of the Gods like the Light Spirits, Dragons, Leviathans, Lokomos & Great Fairies, that help protect the worlds or serve as messergers of the Gods. My Fiction about the pourpose of Hyrules creation and that of the multiple parallel worlds, is that either they all serve as prototypes before the creation of a "perfect world", or that the Gods have the urge to create order inside the Chaos what led to creation in general. The Triforce was left behind so the inhabitants of each world could correct every flaws that the Gods may have overlooked. I could go on with this and for why there's a Demon King, a Goddess of Darkness, etc... Point is, that the theory of Majora beeing a Goddess of Chaos, actually fits very well with the fiction I've constructed for myself, so I'm very pleased with this video!
Omg how am I just now seeing this two years later?? This is one of the best theories I’ve ever seen!! The whole thing is crazy, but when you brought Links dad into it I audibly gasped. Very well done🔥
I have a pretty cool theory too. You know how in SS, it’s revealed that Zelda is Hylia reincarnated? And, how Ganondorf is Demise reincarnated? Well, what if, FD is Link reincarnated? Like, he was Hylia’s immortal bodyguard or something?
To simplify this theory, when one takes a good look at the shape of Majora's Mask, its triangular shaped (sans the horns/spikes). This to me indicates enough that MM itself reps said "Tetraforce Piece"
I vibe with this theory, now all I need is to know how the HmS connects to it all and why is he apparently so bound to Majora? (He has to be, they're clearly connected more than just him being a guy who managed to get a hold of the mask, the moon children all look like him, he's got strange abilities, knows way more than he should and seems to be unaffected by the flow and fluctuations of time)
I think you’re dead wrong, I believe that the fourth piece is from hylia, she is associated with time (obviously) but her virtue is love (just like Din is the goddess of power and is associated with fire)(I think it’s love cause she’s the one that stayed, the one that sacrificed herself to save hyrule and even went so far as to live among them) The idea that a god on equal standing to the golden goddesses could be sealed in a mask is ridiculous, but more than that, it screams for the goddess of time towards the end of MM, i don’t think it would ask its lesser for help like that if majora is a primordial evil like in Shinto, would he really contribute with his own triforce piece? Also i kinda understood that majora was male, which disqualifies him from being a goddess (that was just my understanding though)
As far as i understand it, it doesn't make sense that Hylia has her own virtue associated with a triforce piece. As we know from SS, Hylia is Zelda and Zelda is associated with wisdom and prominently wields the triforce of wisdom in a few games. Her association of time is more indirect. It seems to be one of her powers, but none that is explicitely designated to her. I agree that it is hard to believe that a deity on par with the golden godesses could be bound to a mask. If Majore would to be considered a deity, he/she would more fittingly be on the level of Hylia.
@@detonar-2598 Well Demise was said to have conquered time itself. If he defeated Hylia who was goddess of time it could said that's how he conquered time itself. However how does own conquer the concept of time?
The missing piece is sin. Majora’s mask represents the absorption of all things that lead to downfall: Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, etc. all this was sealed in the mask. The triforce pieces are representations of the virtues needed to overcome sin, which necessitates a balance of Courage, Wisdom, and Power. This is why, once the parts are gathered and an imbalance is detected, the “missing piece” of sin and chaos reflects the heart of the person or entity making the wish. Only one pure of heart with a balance of all three may make a pure wish, any others with an imbalance of these virtues will cause a “downfall” which is why the piece is pointed downward. This is just a theory.
I always thought the empty space between the Triforce pieces was symbolic. The emptiness of desire, the granted wish, and the lack of connection with the other virtues. Ganon, with his desire for power, blinding him to balancing his power with wisdom, and lacking the courage for direct confrontation (His constant need to seal himself behind elaborate barriers instead of directly confronting the hero at his weakest.). Zelda and her desire for the wisdom to be a kind and compassionate ruler and to save her kingdom, but lacking the courage and power to do so without relying on the chosen Hero to assist her. And Link, with his desire for the Courage to save everyone, but lacking the power to do so and relying on the wisdom of others along the way. Having Link complete the trials laid out before him in the dungeons, and facing Ganon's minions allows him to to balance and connect all three of the virtues, so when all three pieces of the Triforce come together he is able to fill that emptiness. And how does one fill the emptiness of desire? With a wish.
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I never understood why Zelda ended up with the triforce of wisdom. It's not a wise decision to try to control the power of the gods, and it's also not a wise decision to have Link pull the master sword out of its pedestal when only Link can pull the sword out of its pedestal, basically meaning that if Link never tries to pull the sword, Ganondorf is fucked and can't get the triforce because the sacred realm doesn't open until someone pulls out the sword.
Void (ku) is a core element in Japanese mythology.
“it represents those things beyond and within our everyday comprehension, particularly those things composed of pure energy before they manifest; the emptiness that the energy is made up of.”
Hear me out -- The Fierce Deity is actually the fourth deity and his/her virtue is justice
I’m pretty sure it’s a him
I may confess I'm tired of so many Fierce Deity origin theories. But yours is quite original and interesting. Link's father being the person behind the mask is poetic. Though I'm bothered by it being so "new". I'd expect something along the lines of the manga, an ancient hero from thousands of years ago.
Probably the original Link that destroyed Demise... Which also explains the white hair. If he grew old and they decided his power needed to be sealed in case it was needed to aid a future hero in case Demise came back they could've done it when he was old and grey.
@@OfficialJuggaloJesus white hair has deep symbolic meaning in Japanese culture
@@OfficialJuggaloJesus yes i mean he had the triforce with him , maybe he wished for be able to protect the land that he surely loved so much , the result could be the mask.
@@heylisten4967 it would kind of fit with the story of the Hero's Shade too how he is basically a restless spirit that was the OoT Link. If Fierce Diety is his own kind of restless spirit which seems like he would be since all of Link's transformation masks were restless spirits to begin with then the Hero's Shade could be the grown Link who lived after Ganon's defeat... It even explains the connection with the Song of Healing after you get the Howling Stone... Im personally hoping that BotW 2 expands on all of this in more detail since BotW 1 was so closely related to Majora's Mask with the 4 major temples, 4 beasts, the appearance of Majora and the Fierce Diety's Mask and other things.
I personally am expecting it to tie in with Skyward Sword with its heavy emphasis on the sky in the newest trailer but Id definitely like to see it also tie in with Twilight Princess and for them to maybe bring back the Oocca Race and explain why there are Zoras AND Rito coexisting at the same.time when the Zoras were supposed to have evolved into the Rito after the flood (Which 100% sets BotW after the flood on the timeline).
@@OfficialJuggaloJesus l think will have some ties with skyward x twilight princess , due lot of hints like the magic hand reminds the twili magic , the sky seems like very similar to the skyloft , and i saw too some references to four swords and minish cap with vaati .
I remember read that the ritos from botw was inspired by the wataras from oot manga , the designer said it , so maybe doesn't have any tie really with the zoras in this story , also in zelda original games we had the fokka , another bird race of warriors that was protecting the triforce of courage.
I honestly think that botw will be kinda of an own timeline or the Nintendo will never give a real answer really to keep making games without worrying .
Man.. the fact that there are still retrospectives and theories about this game being made 21 years after its release is insane. Not only does it show how much detail in this game, but it’s the perfect example of how to create interesting mysteries that never get solved but still add to the nuance of the game.
Here's my theory, which comes mostly from Gamtos's theory "Majora's Mask-as seen by Gamtos".
Majora's Mask was originally created by the ancient tribe-perhaps called Majora-and originally was just a regular mask of wood and paint. No soul resided within. It was empty and lifeless. The ancient tribe who coveted this mask wanted to create an object that could give its wearer great power, but to do this rituals were required. The ancient tribe performed many dark rituals, forcing many unwilling victims to don the mask and suffer from these hexes. With each ritual, the mask itself gained more power. But it was not enough. The tribe wanted more, and so the rituals continued, increasing in violence and quantity. With each hex, the mask itself gained more and more power, and eventually from this suffering-this pain-this hate-this anger-this insatiable desire for power, destruction and suffering-Majora was born.
In Japan, it's a common trope in folktales that a place or object that is filled with negative energy, such as a grudge or cursing someone, can become possessed by evil. Majora was born from this. It is not so much a single entity as much as it "contains the residual feelings and memories of every tribe member or victim that were involved in the hexes" according to gamtos. This is perhaps why in the final boss fight, Majora's Mask fights in a childlike manner similar to the skull kid. It based itself upon a part of the skull kid's personality, explaining it's childish demeanor.
Majora's Mask is this evil, that was born from the dark rituals, malice, and grudge poured into it. It is the epitome of darkness, hate, greed and pain. Eventually, Majora's Mask ultimately became even too powerful for the tribe to control, and the evil within lashed out, slaughtering every last one of the tribe members involved, destroying the clan entirely. It used its victims to cause more chaos, controlling them in a way very similar to skull kid. The chaos it caused, this calamity, eventually became so great it caught the attention of the hyrulean sages, who after discovering the mask, sealed it away in the Eternal Darkness so that it would not be misused.
But what of the Fierce Deity? First off, it's important to know just what a Fierce Deity actually is. The term "Fierce Deity", comes from the Buddhist faith. In Buddhist legends, Fierce Deities are said to be wrathful, terrifying forms of enlightened Buddhas, who destroy obstacles to enlightenment as well as guard confused sentient beings from demons who wish to assail them. The Fierce Deity's Mask's somewhat sinister appearance as well as Link's misinterpretation of the mask as evil matches well with how westerners viewed fierce deities, so much so that they thought that those of the Buddhist faith worshipped demons! However, this couldn't be further from the truth.
Another thing of importance is the symbolism behind where Link obtains the Fierce Deity's Mask: Under the shade of a large tree in an open field, which matches particularly well with another Buddhist tale where the Buddha achieved enlightenment while sitting under the shade of a large tree while being assailed by distractions sent by Mara, the enemy of all enlightenment. But the only way to obtain this mask is by obtaining all masks in the game(save for the transformation masks) and giving them to the four moon children, who one by one disappear. Much like the distractions of Mara, these children represent challenges that Link must overcome in order to achieve enlightenment.
The Fierce Deity is not some separate being from Link, not some ancient war god who fought with demon lord Majora some centuries back. The Fierce Deity is Link. Just like how Mara challenged the Buddha to defend his claim of enlightenment through which the Buddha touched the earth and the land itself cried out "I bear you witness!", the moon itself is giving Link physical proof and acts as a witness of Link's enlightenment through the Fierce Deity's Mask, explaining the appearance of the symbol of the moon on his chest plate.
Aonuma, when asked what spirit resides in the fierce deity's mask, said "The best I can give you is just a suggestion. The best way to think about it is that the memories of all the people of Termina are inside the Fierce Deity's Mask." A Gossip stone in the game also mentions the Fierce Deity Mask saying, "The Fierce Deity's Mask, a mask that contains the merits of all masks, seems to be...somewhere in this world."
In the game, every mask you obtain is said to be filled with a kind of emotion, kind of like how Majora's Mask was filled with hatred, greed, etc. But this is different. Rather than negative emotions, these masks are filled with positive feelings and memories, such as love, happiness or gratitude, given by those you helped on your journey. This corresponds with the mystical energy in Zelda called Force. Force is a sacred power that dwells in all living beings in the universe, and can be physically manifested through strong emotions, in the form of force gems, gratitude crystals, and the like. The Fierce Deity's Mask is one such creation, created by the feelings of gratitude and love that fill the masks you have collected over the course of your adventure.
"The masks you have are filled with happiness. This is truly a good happiness." -Happy Mask Salesman.
This joy, when fused together, created the Fierce Deity Mask, which through it, Link is capable of totally wiping Majora's Mask from off the face of the earth(or moon in this case). But though the Fierce Deity's Mask is powered by Force, Majora's Mask is powered by its polar opposite: Malice. And in Gamtos's words:
"Malice is energy formed from hatred and despair.
It is the hatred of the Demon King, Demise, towards everything made by the Goddesses.
It is the darkness in the hearts of men that fascinated and corrupted Vaati.
It is the soul flame of pure hatred the poes carry in their lanterns.
It is virtually every part of Calamity Ganon's being.
And it is the result of countless hexing rituals of an ancient tribe.
The anger, despair and insecurities of a lone imp.
The tribulations of a land destined to fade, where friends can't seek forgiveness, guardians and heroes become powerless, and total destruction is drawing ever nearer on an unstoppable path.
That is the power that fuels and possesses Majora's Mask."
I like this theory of link gaining enlightment it matches with the Buddhist theme that primates majoras mask.
Ayyy fam thanksfor the shoutout; looks like you got to the theory before Zeltik even did~ how'd you come across it?
Dawg I ain't reading allat, but still its seems like a good theory tho.
@@Fatboji87 you should it was pretty interesting
@@Glitchedpixel5 I was being sarcastic
I will admit. Even if the Tetraforce Theory is bunk, I can't deny that the idea of Majora being the Hyrulean Goddess of Chaos is a very enticing idea.
Then wouldn't The Fierce Diety be the god or order
@@jeffloud6180 more of a demigod, since he would've been a mortal who was given god-like power by Majora
@@metaltom2003 yea but what if the fierce diety was a god and majora just got him and game him to link since link being a hero represented order
@@jeffloud6180 what about the fierce deity marsk's obvious resemblance to Link?
Making up absolute shit enticing? All i Heard was bad story Telling
Not sure I buy into the whole theory, but the idea of Majora being Chaos incarnate is rather intriguing.
I really love the theory. It's a great "what if" origin. I really wish Nintendo would use it. Maybe a prequel to Majoras Mask will come out one day.
I think the game is elevated in that it's an isolated story apart from its scant few connections to Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. Also, Shigeru Miyamoto doesn't really write stories anymore, so if there were a prequel it would likely be out of line with the initial writing philosophy of Majora's Mask. In other words, it would be a bit like how Hollywood is always going back to beloved films and producing inferior prequels and sequels.
Also, the uncertainty and vagueness of MM's storyline are crucial to its atmosphere and feel.
I do believe somewhere out there there is info confirming Nintendo and Miyamoto straight said the Tetraforce was not a thing and that the extra triangle was just a design thing, which was why it was removed later.
BUT I do love the 'what if' concept behind this theory! I think it's interesting! I think they need to do more with Majora and Fierce Diety so we can have more to their stories!
If anyone ever does find this comment from Miyamoto, please let me know. I'd love to see it. It just feels very much unlike him to directly comment on a theory and shoot it down since a big part of their philosophy with Zelda narratives seems to be leaving them ambiguous and letting fans fill in the holes.
It's only a theory if there is nothing disproving it. If there is, it's just a head canon. Not a theory.
I have no idea where to find it, but, yes, I do remember Miyamoto personally debunking the tetraforce. It may have been a Q&A event with fans in the mid-2000s, but I'm not 100% sure.
I'll admit, though, this theory is very good. I wish they'd make the tetraforce canon. I'd love for BotW2 to bring it up ... So many comparisons were made by the production team between LoZ (which only had 2 pieces, power and wisdom) and BotW that the sequel has the perfect opportunity to introduce a new piece, much like AoL did with courage. Heck, chaos would make sense with the state of the BotW world.
@@Xenogamer The fourth triangle was metaphoric for 'Wholeness'. The three virtues are perfect but lack balance. The forth, was to symbolise the Holder of the Triforce. Making a 'Whole, of Goddesses and Man'. Least thats how my Diddy Animist mind growing up saw it anywho. As Triple symbology is represented like this often in my culture. The bottom triangle, the 'God'. Is Merely Man/Human. The potential bearer, below the Goddesses, looking up.
in the art book " Zelda Art and Artifacts" they do mention that the triangle at the bottom really was just a design choice because it looked nice. and they felt the design of the Hylian shield was quite iconic that they tweaked it a lil bit for future games which is the one we know today.
Majora’s Mask is my favorite Legend of Zelda game, love the theory!!!
Far better than the trash story that is BotW
Well, Botw's story isnt the best, but its much better than Lok season 2.
@@killtryray6643 at least BotW had octoroks and cooking, so, you know, Link could be so hungry that he could eat one
Majora's mask is the first game I ever beat. Majora's mask will always be my favorite Zelda game.
Same best zelda game ever in my opinion next to twlight princess
I believe Majora was not an evil Goddess but perhaps the Mother of the other goddesses. You could call her the Goddess of Chaos but chaos is just change, ultimately she was the goddess of creation. The tribe he spoke of was the beginning of humanity, emotion, love, jealousy and that tribe wanted Majoras power. So the Fierce Diety was the one to Rip Majoras spirit from her power by creating a mask made of a piece of her body, seperating Majora from her power. This action is what released or gave birth to Din Farore and Nayru. Meanwhile, Majora hid within the realm of the masks power waiting for the ironic moment for a hero to arrive and bear the Fierce Dietys mask to take down the evil that had taken Majoras power.
Honestly Majora is my favorite, there is so much mystery surrounding Majora. The Zelda creators have followed so many other stories and branches in the Zelda timelines except for this one, and i hope they dig more into its lore soon.
That would also explain why Majora has a very feminine voice during it's boss fight and even the way it moves, as if it were a goddess of chaos
Great argument for the Tetraforce! It's a tough theory to sell, but you explained it well.
I think it's definitely a thing! the physical design is obviously there. 4 comes in often. There are 4 light spirits in TP iirc, and in WW, zelda's name is tetra.
@@stevenhicks7613 Tetra's name is because she's a reincarnation of the fourth Goddess, Hylia. That's what the triangle in the middle represents: the Goddess that once was, but will never be again.
How can peoples still dont know who is the wielder of the forth triforce piece ? I mean its obviously beedle, with the triforce of wealth, after all as link zelda and ganon, he makes an appearence from SS to BOTW, so, why dont you need it for the whole wish thing ? Well, beedle is the god of this triforce, as zelda is the reicarnation of the godess hylia, and as the godess hylia, he is a god below the three golden godess's "the god of wealth created upon the godess's work all the rupee's that everyone uses". (This went way too far)
The three golden goddesses and their brother. 😂 so many funny sibling moments are playing in my head about this lol.
I like to imagine it's epona. triforce of power, wisdom, courage, and Horse
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Great theory, man! I thought it was really well thought out and put together. I really like the idea of Link's father playing a role, however small, within Majora's Mask, which is a game that has many thematic elements of Link attempting to regain the childhood he lost in Ocarina of Time. Having a connecting line back to a father he never had the chance to meet is really cool and thought-provoking. Also, of all the theories I've heard over the years regarding the Tetraforce, this is by far the most compelling and well thought out. Honestly, amazing job!
Regarding the Tetraforce theory, I noticed a while back that Hyrule's and Lorule's Triforces look like they could be slotted together to form a Hexaforce. And I wondered if maybe that was by design and each kingdom was only given half of the Goddesses' power.
I was just looking at them thinking the same thing.
Don't forget hyrulia and a probably destroyed lorulia. It's possible the empty space might refer to the embetween as the goddesses went up and down. Termina might be an actual terminal between worlds as it seems to reflect hyrule but also lorule but is missing the things that make those two unique. It's the sort of middle ground or standard world and as you go up you get closer to where the goddesses reside, as a sort of top of the world I guess and the lower the closer to the demon realm.
No. The goddesses created hyrule in a time of chaos. Majora isn't part of the triforce, he's why the triforce and Hyrule even exist: the goddesses stopped his chaos.
I feel like this theory ranges a little too much into fanfiction territory, but its still pretty interesting nonetheless.
In the assumption that this is true (for the Fierce Deity), this would make sense. Of all the masks that Link transforms into another being/creature, it is the Deku, Gorgon, and Zora, "heroes" in their own right, with regrets. Perhaps the Fierce Deity (perhaps Link's father), had his own regrets, (not truly sealing/destroying Majora, or never meeting son/returning to his wife?) thus allowing Link to help the deity come to peace.
Ah well, just a thought. Thanks for the video and thought ^^
What a fun theory! It makes for an incredible story. The Soulsborne lore enthusiast in me can't help but point out that Occam's Razor pretty well puts this theory to bed though. There are just too many assumptions here for it to be more viable over simpler theories. Plus, the manga is non-canon. (Otherwise we must accept that Volvagia was Link's childhood pet, and the lore is muddy enough as-is)
That said, every Zelda theory is pretty much non-canon since they are unconfirmable. Your theory does exactly what all Zelda theories are meant to do: enrich a beloved story and setting. So even if the theory doesn't hold water, it is still worth every Rupee.
Dude, this theory was well crafted, beautifully told, and superbly executed by you. Thank you for letting me recapture that feel that I once had playing this game for the first time, cheers!!
Hear me out, TOTK Link becomes the canon Fierce Deity and the true Majora is the next games big boss.
Explain further I'm very intrigued and think that would be badass
Well likely the missing piece would be for the male Deity lost from their creation stories. Representation of chaos is not a bad idea. Because chaos isn’t necessarily evil it’s the primary fundamental element of free well/change which also could further link Gannondorf & Link as the twin aspects of that element.
It could also link Demise as Twisted Child of chaos & the goddess of power.
In my opinion, the tetraforce could only exist when tetraforces of courage, wisdom, and power exist as well. The word 'Triforce' durives from the shape of each Triforce piece and the complete relic being a triangle. So the term 'Tetraforce' would refer to when both the Triforces of Hyrule and Lorule are wielded by the same person. Just look at the Triforce symbol that is unique to the title of A Link Between Worlds. Hyrule's Triforce and Lorule's Triforce form a rhombus, a quadrilateral.
but if you overlay the two triforces so the the bottom triangle of the Lorule triforce and the top triangle of the Hyrule triforce fill in the center of the other triforce then you get an hourglass... it all circles back to Hylia goddess of time, lol
I'm surprised Nintendo hasn't said that the 4th triangle is Hylia's piece but isn't in the Triforce because the 4th piece lives in the princesses of Hyrule, the only reason I say that is because the Force from Minish Cap inside Zelda is symbolized as a triangle
I would consider that Majora is Male instead of female, because of the trinity theory. With the Hyrulean pantheon is all female so it would be logic that the deity that would represent chaos and the fourth triforce piece would be the god of Chaos: Majora
Once you mentioned Tetraforce, I thought of Tetra from Windwaker. When she’s Zelda, she is beautiful, elegant, wise. When Tetra, she’s the opposite. Idk, just something I thought of within the first couple minutes of the video.
You can tell Majora's Mask is a great game by the fact people are still making theories about it decades after its release.
Good and entertaining theory. Definitely heard less well defined ones.
The second theory on who sealed Majora is very compelling, as it mirrors the real mythology of the Greek Gods. The new gods come forth to defeat and seal the old gods of chaos. Other cultures have this in their mythology as well, such as Canaanite and Babylonian mythology. Excellently made video!
Don't forget norse did something similar.
It's theories like these that remind me one of the reasons why I love this series and Fandom so damn much. I really like this theory probably my Favorite among the Majora's Mask theories
ian't mojora a dragon that was sealed by the fierce deity inside the mask?
It's kind of inevitable that when you put three triangles into a larger triangle there will be a space between them
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My opinion: If there is a Tetra Triforce, the fourth Goddess would have to be Hylia herself. I know people would argue that she is Zelda reborn and why doesn't she have the power of the Tetra Triforce. Maybe she had to herself from it in order to be reborn.
I think I found more proof for your theory. Look at the chest of Fearless Deity. You will see a moon on the left at a triangle all the right. I think this shows that the Fearless deity is a warrior of Termina which I think is symbolized by the moon. He is also a warrior of Hyrule which is symbolized by the triangle. Which makes him a warrior of both lands if you take my thinking into account.
It's also equally possible that the chaos that caused the hyrulean civil war was the spirit of Demise who by then had reincarnated as Ganondorf and could be influencing the land as a whole. It's also equally possible that the fierce deity itself is the God that created the final part of the tetraforce
While I don't personally buy into this theory, it is definitely well made. Good job Xeno.
Since this is a topic on gods, I feel it necessary to point it out that the existence of many lesser gods are hinted at throughout the series. The sages of wind and spirit have gods directly involved with their elements, fire and forest also having "spirits" associated with them. In the same Dimension as Hyrule, in the lands of New Hyrule, is a god of light who fought against the demon Malladus, usually mistranslated into English as the spirits of good, whose force gem symbol is also seen on the light Medallion.
These gods all have some sort of symbol connected to them, and the Fierce Deity follows this kind of by having both a triforce piece and a moon symbol displayed on his chest. While I think the triforce piece is a reference to Link's triforce of courage and the moon symbol to a connection between the deity and the moon, the triforce piece could be the missing "fourth piece" and a display of the power that the deity represents. Take it as you will, and sorry for the rambling.
That fire emblem fates theme called “sorrow” (I think) it’s very fitting to this
There is the tidbit about the Fierce Deity's Mask carrying "the merits of all masks," though.
If I'm understanding your reference correctly, you are referring to the bit of dialogue that the Fierce Deity's Mask carries with it "the souls of everyone in Termina" or the hopes and dreams of all the citizens of Termina. If this is what you're referring to, it does not seem to invalidate the theory and may, in fact, be a benefit to it. My main reason for saying this is that the way you receive the FD mask is by doing precisely what Link's father (who the theory states is the FD) would want him to do: be a hero and help those in need. Thus, the mask may only manifest after Link proves he is still the hero he was in OoT and one that can be trusted with the immense power granted by the mask.
Additionally, the order and balance brought by Link in his journey could be another point in favor of the theory. If Majora truly is the lost goddess of chaos, the "villain" or "antagonist" for their story would be one who stood for order and peace and worked to undo all the chaos that was wrought. Thus, when Majora wishes to play a game of good guys and bad guys, it gives Link the mask of the "villain", the Fierce Deity. One of the few people in Zelda history (according to the present theory) capable of wielding the full Triforce, showing that he has innate balance, who received a portion of the goddess of chaos' power, turning him into the FD, and retaining a portion of his humanity and sacrificing himself in order to prevent Majora from throwing Hyrule into further chaos.
@@nicolaswarren3453 I wasn't trying to disprove this theory, though. Just pointing out something to be taken into consideration. That being said, I can actually see where you're going. And I like it.
but Eiji Aonuma already explained fierce deity is the collection of the wishes of the people pf Termina. In Japanese Shinto, strong emotions towards things or long lasting emotions towards something end up embedding that thing, and a spirit animates the thing with supernatural properties equivalent to those emotions and desires. The fierce deity is the hope and fighting spirit of all the people of Termina in their wishing to live
Termina was created by a replication of Majora’s experiences through Hyrule.So instead of TERMINIAN wishes they were HYRULEAN wishes.Fierce Deity was the manifestation of Hyrule’s inhabitants to stop the war and to live on in peace.That only got twisted and transferred to Termina BECAUSE it’s the parallel to Hyrule itself.
@@21tangtang72 Nah. Danny D got it right, you're grasping.
Nice video. But i have my own theory, which I believe to be right. My theory is that in the beginning, The three golden Goddesses Created Hyrule and Termina, and two Gods were created beneath them, Hylia, and The Fierce Deity (I'll name him Terminus), each god were to be deity protector of the lands, A third God, Which would later become demise, was created to watch over Lorule. A 4th god, Was created to occupy the space in-between, the nothingness, pure chaos, which was Majora. The third God loved Hylia, but she loved Terminus. Jealous and angry of these things, The god which would later become demise rebelled against the three golden Goddesses and Hylia, while Majora would attempt to rebel against the Fierce Deity. A great battle would ensue, where The Lorule god would eventually fall to the goddess Hylia, cast out as a fallen god, becoming demise, where Terminus, having defeated Majora and sealing his soul inside the Majora's Mask, was also fatally wounded. Hylia and terminus, who were in love, did not wish to separate. So Hylia would Seal away the Fierce deity soul inside a Mask, then she created the Mortal Hero of Hyrule, link, in the image of her Love. She gave up her life as a deity to reincarnate into a Mortal body, the princess Zelda, and Demise, swore to come back in a neverending cycle for revenge against The Golden goddesses, Hylia, and Link. So in essence, Fierce deity wasn't a disgraced god, but a Valiant heroic one, which would serve as inspiration for the Mortal he would become, which is Link and his many reincarnations
I'd say this is more of a fanfiction rather than a theory but I still liked it!
What if Majora is a Goddess of magic, or cycle?
what a wild theory, I love it, the ending gave me chills
I think orihinally it was balance but as the god got corrupted it became caos and thats why it was excluded
This gave me goosebumps, especially fierce deity potentially being links father. Love the theory my guy!
We need Fierce Deity in future.
According to the Majora's Mask manga, Majora was a demon that fed itself from the desires of people, and promised to grant the wishes of those who could defeat him at his game.
But after a while, he was tired of always winning, and wanted to die. A new challenger arrived, and started playing music. Majora was amused by this new entertainment and started dancing. The man played for three days straight, at the end of which the demon died from exhaustion. The man then carved a mask from the demon's body, which now contained its soul and power, and the song he had played became known as the Song of Healing.
You have a great theory with a great video, but there is some ginormous gaping holes in it. There's just too much guessing for random scenarios. There is no possible way that the Feirce Deity could have been Link's father, and having Majora just be the eldest being in the universe just doesn't make any sense. The scope of his terror just doesn't make any sense. And I'm sorry, but the Tetraforce theory is just not true. There is no evidence to prove that is ever has or will exist. The idea of a goddess of chaos and having the other three come to supplant it is fun, but has no evidence to back it up. Also your timeline for the events that supposedly happened is off. Another thing, it clearly says that the Hyrulean Civil War was fought for the Triforce and land. There was no evil influence poisoning their thoughts. Sorry for ranting on your theory, but I just don't think it has any plausible way of working
Really like this take on it. I've always had a thought that maybe there was a lost part of the tri force, To fill in the gap. The tri force is of equal parts, but putting them together as it is shown, even the slightest imbalance or shake, risks it losing its position. A 4th would make it stable and having an even platform to rest the top on.
If Majora was a "Golden Goddess" with a part of the TetraForce, that implies she had, at some point, a valued part to play. Such a person would not need to be punished or imprisoned. One wonders if Majora's original role was as Goddess of Change or Transformation, but became imbalanced or corrupted into the Goddess of Chaos.
In this scenario, Majora becomes one in a long line of Trickster deities, many of which are seen as having valued roles, but many are also seen as ultimately too much trouble. Loki, for example.
Oh man your theory here is very similar to one I have but mine differs on who the last god is and who Fierce Deity really is. Keep up the good work.
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I'm very sceptical if someone does a theory about my all time favourite Zelda Game.
I will be very honest.
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Your editing skills improved alot since last year, I'm proud to be your Sub.
Currently i'm watching your and Monster Maze's theories the most.
Keep up the good work.
The 3 golden goddesses were described as being all powerful, so if Majora was the 4th, Link, even as the Fierce Deity, would stand no chance!
If that was the origin of the fierce deity, the 3 pieces would be in Termina, because Link's father would've'd them when he was sealed.
Majora is probably just the Interloper King imprisoned in his mask due to misusing dark magic & driven insane if it was the Hero of Men, who I speculate is the hero of the sky, that defeated him, while He & Zelda built Hyrule on the surface.
The triforce is referenced in a blasphemous way in the stone tower temple meaning those who built it despised the golden goddesses as it has statues that show someone licking the triforce. It's also stated in the story of the giants and the imp. That skull kid lat termina to go heaven so hyrule is a divine land that found above termina. So the stone tower temple maybe a reference to the tower of Babel. And the light arrows being holy flip the tower to prevent anyone from climbing it to heaven.
The Triforce also fits together like a puzzle, so all of the deities were probably one being in the beginning.
i thought this was just my theroy
I like the fact that you mentioned links dad and that whole route you took on that. I agree with it it’s is definitely a good possibility. 👍👍
The last chapter of the Major's Mask manga actually describes (or rather shows) the origin of the "mask" itself.
The was once a great dragon that lived alone in a barren, nearly empty, land. The land is described as "a strange world that was not moving, but not dead, either... but had not necessarily stopped."
The dragon was described as living there alone for countless number of years (possibly forever), "Not being able to vanish from the world, but not able to live, either." _and_ was "left here by the _cosmos_ ."
The dragon devoured all that came looking for it as anyone who claimed the dragon's armor would be granted their wish.
Meeting a warrior after so long, the warrior made the dragon realize that it had been stuck in this empty land for so thousands of years... until the dragon admits that it grew tired of being alone.
Upon this realization, the desires of all those the dragon had devoured began to merge inside him and his "first 'wish' has been formed!" which was to "Make my time move!!"
From that point on, the warrior played on his drum non-stop for 3 days and 3 nights; during those 3 days and nights, it is described that "Time is being born", and "On the morning of the fourth day, at the same moment his breathing ceased, the world finally crumbled. In the end all that was left was his armor."
The warrior then proceeds to carve the dragon's armor into the titular Majora's Mask. The chapter ends with the warrior saying "Your power has been firmly sealed into this mask. Your power will no longer be a menace. I hope you sleep forever."
Overall, It does hint to the power within the mask being something that predates "Time", but it also indicates that there were people before this event so it seems to bring up more questions than answers.
Amazing!!! Best Zelda theory I’ve heard since the release of the botw 2 trailer era.
I enjoy longer theories btw 😊
Omg this is awesome, legit last night I was paying botw and engaged a Lynel whilst wearing Majora's Mask. I couldn't help but think about the lynels reaction when it realised I was an imposter and not Majora. It made me think about the origins of the mask and how it relates to Ganon and the Triforce, and I started thinking about the malice eyes and the MM3DS eyes in the boss fights... Let's just say I like where this theory is going, and I hope we get to see the full story in game. I'm forming a theory that BoTW will be a trilogy and in the 3rd we'll see how it all plays into huge lore story. Go Xeno!
Maybe the Fierce Deity is what would happen if the Goddesses had made Termina's version of the Hero's Soul into their Hylia-style God instead of Termina's version of Zelda's soul (assuming that they even made a version of Zelda in Termina), and it sealed itself into a Mask in the process of sealing away Majora (who would probably be more akin to their own insane version of Demise rather than Ganondorf).
Or maybe Majora is an insane version of Zelda's soul (like what Lorule's Hilda could have ended up if she went a little further), which might explain why the Fierce Deity sealed it away instead of killing it and why Majora carried around the Fierce Deity's Mask.
hi xeno I love the new intro
Hello there, and thanks!
I love these heavy speculation type theories. They always lead to some badass conclusions that sound waaaaaay cooler than whatever the community consensus might be, even if they may not be accurate. (I don’t think Nintendo will revisit this area of the lore anyway, so honestly anything goes with what info we’ve got) Like- this is dope as hell, so much that I might adopt it into my personal headcanon.
Wrong, the fourth golden goddess is Dante. It points downward because Dante DIGS DOWNWARD. 💐👇
Awesome Video Bro!
Finally some love for XCX OST !!!
Dude this is an insanely good theory!!! Great work as always xeno!!!
I'm pretty sure if you read the book/comic book up Majora's Mask it shows how majora was basically a dragon like creature that once lived for no reason in a plane that had no time that all it did was consumed. It wasn't until the Fierce Diety that came along, essentially tricked the Dragon with a song that made it dance for 3 days straight until it died and then he carved out the mask out of its scaled hide. Concealed it's power in The Mask.
I remember the fierce Deity's mask beeing described to contain the memories of everyone in Termina, my interpretation's that it accumulates the hopes and will of everyone and transform it into power. Basically it beeing created as an countermeasurement against Majora that becomes the hero Termina needs. Majora beeing a primordial goddes of chaos sealed by the golden goddesses is a great idea that actually goes in line with several theories, that tryed to prove Terminas existence as an actual part of the world and I find it fantastic!
The gossip stones in termina says that the fierce deity mask holds the merits of all masks and it is somewhere in the world which implies it already exists but it's being held by Majora. One could say Majora is the goddess of chaos but the events it puts into play cause Link to unify the world against it. He collects all the masks and gives them to the mask children which are impart a part of Majoras own power. So you give all the masks to Majora basically which proves you worthy to wield the fierce deity mask which Majora gives you after stating you don't have any masks that are powerful enough. Meaning if you keep all the mask you have said power. But if you sacrifice them to Majora it grants you a mask that holds the merit of all the masks you collect meaning it's equal to all the masks you had given up. So while Majora is the goddess of chaos it's playing a game in which it wants you to win so it won't have to destroy the world. You just have to do the work and pass the trials to prove that you can supplant Chaos with order. Think about the song oath to order. Your bringing order back to the land by playing it if you saved all the giants they come in unity to stop Majora.
@@sykune It sounds weird, that Majora creates disorder just so you can come and let you form order anew, but that's actually how many worldbuildings describe how destruction balances creation. The true opposite of Chaos is Void/Nothingness and Order is technically born inside of Chaos, so Majora giving room for Order is a convincing perspective.
@@solracstormhunter3023 hence organized chaos lol. But I never thought of order forming within chaos but that actually makes sense.
Chaos was the very first primordial deity in greek mythology as well, the theory here is actually mythologically sound. Nice work!
In Link’s Awakening Switch, Link’s main shield (before the mirror shield) is the Hylian Shield. I also noticed that the sucky flowers don’t eat the mirror shield. Maybe because you can’t buy back a key item? Idk. Anyway, it’s really easy to kill them and get the Hylian Shield back. 2 hits normally or with defense clothes, 1 hit with attack clothes.
Bang up job, Xeno! Great tie in to your happy mask Saleman video. That was a very professional script, a creative theory and a cool video (that always helps the talking points connect easier). The parts about the fourth Triangle of the triforce, Amatsu Mikaboshi and the Fierce Diety Mask have really got my gears turning, I’m gonna have some great dreams tonight.
the way you just said majora gave me literal shivers
When I was 10 years old this game helped me escape really bad abuse, ill always be grateful for those hours of escape.
I mean the fierce diety does have either a tetraforce or that missing piece of the trifroce above his heart. So, that’s some crazy symbolism in itself tbh.
my personal theory regarding the twili is that the twili were trying to tap into the power of majora. that is why you see majora like imagery in all of their own iconography. they were also banished to the realm of darkness or as they prefer to call it, the realm of twilight. this also leads me to belive that skull kid and his two fairies represent majora, the people of hyrule (the light fairie) and the twili (the dark fairie). this would mean that at one point (probably during the civil war or some time just before ocarina of time begins) the people of hyrule also worshipped majora as well as the other goddesses, however like skull kid and the light faire, majora betrayed the people of hyrule and thus is why future incarnations of the shield from ocarina of time onwards never had the 4th Triforce on it. as the people had been betrayed by it.
Wait, Nauru is wisdom and Farore is courage? Then how come if the Dinrall spring is power like Din, Farosh’s spring is wisdom and Naydra’s spring is courage?
Did you get the springs mixed up? Farosh’s is the Spring of Courage and Naydra’s is the Spring of Wisdom
This is one of my favorite theory about Majora's mask!
I really like the father spirit theory because it goes nicely with another theory of navi being link's mom. Seeing that the parents of the hero of time were made into a great fairy and a demi god make it so poetic and beautiful . the hero of time is one of the most unforgettable characters in the entire Zelda series, even if this whole thing is wrong it's still nice to think in a little head canon that link's dad was always at his side . it also explains the fierce deity looking like link but older
This is officially one of my absolute FAVORITE theories!!
I'm not sure if I could see this being something that works, but I really like what it puts on the table.
i always feel like that Minamoto just didnt think the backstory of the mask through, thats why we just dont know a whole lot about it. and also why it just never appeared again, canonically.
When you combine them all into one giant gold Triangle it becomes "The Force."
Then you need 3 more of it to make the Triforce, and use Lorule's Triforce in the middle and repeat
This fits the story well nobody talked about link's father until now. Best theory ever
This is more fanfiction than theory, but I like it.
XENO!!!! Good video Mang. You blew my mind.
My idea about the gods in Zelda is that, besides the obious hierarchy, all of them have a role involving said hierarchy:
1st Rang) There's a god of Law, who makes the rules that prevents conflict between all the gods;
2nd Rang) There is the Duo of reality I'd like to call the "Architect of Realms"/God of Space & "The Historian of Worlds"/Goddess of Time;
3rd Rang) The Golden Goddesses as Goddess of Creation;
The counterpart to the golden Goddesses beeing a Goddess of Destruction/Goddess of Chaos;
4th Rang) The Minor Gods like Hylia and Cia, that preserve the order of the multiple worlds and protect them from unwanted influence;
Demise could be their counterpart, as an God of Disorder;
5th Rang) Servants of the Gods like the Light Spirits, Dragons, Leviathans, Lokomos & Great Fairies, that help protect the worlds or serve as messergers of the Gods.
My Fiction about the pourpose of Hyrules creation and that of the multiple parallel worlds, is that either they all serve as prototypes before the creation of a "perfect world", or that the Gods have the urge to create order inside the Chaos what led to creation in general. The Triforce was left behind so the inhabitants of each world could correct every flaws that the Gods may have overlooked.
I could go on with this and for why there's a Demon King, a Goddess of Darkness, etc... Point is, that the theory of Majora beeing a Goddess of Chaos, actually fits very well with the fiction I've constructed for myself, so I'm very pleased with this video!
Omg how am I just now seeing this two years later?? This is one of the best theories I’ve ever seen!! The whole thing is crazy, but when you brought Links dad into it I audibly gasped. Very well done🔥
Just gotta say.... LOVE this theory! Tons of thought and spiritualism and research and heart put into it. Love it. Thumbs up 👍
That's a stupid hard stretch, but it's a really cool narrative.
I have a pretty cool theory too. You know how in SS, it’s revealed that Zelda is Hylia reincarnated? And, how Ganondorf is Demise reincarnated? Well, what if, FD is Link reincarnated? Like, he was Hylia’s immortal bodyguard or something?
A little detail I found is that on the fierce deity’s armor there is a symbol of the whole triforce including the triforce of chaos
To simplify this theory, when one takes a good look at the shape of Majora's Mask, its triangular shaped (sans the horns/spikes). This to me indicates enough that MM itself reps said "Tetraforce Piece"
I vibe with this theory, now all I need is to know how the HmS connects to it all and why is he apparently so bound to Majora? (He has to be, they're clearly connected more than just him being a guy who managed to get a hold of the mask, the moon children all look like him, he's got strange abilities, knows way more than he should and seems to be unaffected by the flow and fluctuations of time)
I think you’re dead wrong, I believe that the fourth piece is from hylia, she is associated with time (obviously) but her virtue is love (just like Din is the goddess of power and is associated with fire)(I think it’s love cause she’s the one that stayed, the one that sacrificed herself to save hyrule and even went so far as to live among them)
The idea that a god on equal standing to the golden goddesses could be sealed in a mask is ridiculous, but more than that, it screams for the goddess of time towards the end of MM, i don’t think it would ask its lesser for help like that
if majora is a primordial evil like in Shinto, would he really contribute with his own triforce piece?
Also i kinda understood that majora was male, which disqualifies him from being a goddess (that was just my understanding though)
As far as i understand it, it doesn't make sense that Hylia has her own virtue associated with a triforce piece. As we know from SS, Hylia is Zelda and Zelda is associated with wisdom and prominently wields the triforce of wisdom in a few games.
Her association of time is more indirect. It seems to be one of her powers, but none that is explicitely designated to her.
I agree that it is hard to believe that a deity on par with the golden godesses could be bound to a mask. If Majore would to be considered a deity, he/she would more fittingly be on the level of Hylia.
@@detonar-2598 Well Demise was said to have conquered time itself. If he defeated Hylia who was goddess of time it could said that's how he conquered time itself. However how does own conquer the concept of time?
The missing piece is sin. Majora’s mask represents the absorption of all things that lead to downfall: Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, etc. all this was sealed in the mask. The triforce pieces are representations of the virtues needed to overcome sin, which necessitates a balance of Courage, Wisdom, and Power. This is why, once the parts are gathered and an imbalance is detected, the “missing piece” of sin and chaos reflects the heart of the person or entity making the wish. Only one pure of heart with a balance of all three may make a pure wish, any others with an imbalance of these virtues will cause a “downfall” which is why the piece is pointed downward. This is just a theory.
I really like the idea of the fierce diety being an embodiment of the triforce of chaos, or the full tetraforce
I love Zelda theories and this is one of my favorites now!
you forgot about the Goddess of Time that watches over you during your entire Terminian journey
"And Majora took a long rest." (And regained all her hit points.)