These are Spanish-made aircraft, English engines. And the German designation was applied precisely for filming the film. So this not and WW2 german aircraft.
Los Messerschmitt 109 tuvieron su bautismo de fuego en la guerra civil española, y la ultima vez que entraron en combate fue en la guerra de sis ifgni, entre España y Mrruecos, ya eran como Buchones, pero eran Messerschmitt 109 a los que se le habia implatado el motor de su encarnizado rival el spitfire, por falta del motor aleman.
It's not "a find", everybody knew they were there and who was the owner, it wasn't "abandoned" at all, owner and heirs sold them at the right time. ABSOLUTE CRAPPY CLICKBAIT 😡.
These were the Hispano 'Buchons' that were used in the making of the film 'Battle of Britain.' Most of the aircraft shown here have since been restored to flying condition. The irony of a German WW II Messerschmitt being powered by a Rolls Royce Merlin engine, has not escaped me.
Do you remember the man that owned many of these planes that passed away a few years back,he flew many in the movie ,battle of Britain? He was going to leave the planes to his son but his son passed before him.
I had coffee with Mrs. Edwards,,,the half owner I guess you could say of these planes at an airshow in TX back in the mid 80s I guess, and the story behind how her husband-Connie Edwards came into owning these airplanes is almost as interesting as the airplanes themselves.
Diese Flugzeuge konnte jeder Zeitweise 1969/70 auf dem Flughafen Köln-Butzweilerhof Stadtteil Ossendorf (Lufthansa 1926 Aufnahme des Linien-Flugbetriebes Köln-Paris) besichtigen. Nach den Dreharbeiten zu Battle of Britain - Premiere 17.09.1969 in Köln - wurden die Maschinen sehr günstig zum kauf angeboten. Die ME 109 wie auch die HE 111 aus spanischen Armee Beständen Nachbauten -besaßen Rolls Royce Motoren und wurden später teilweise auf Original Motoren von Daimler Benz umgerüstet.
After the sale of the German fighter to Spain, during the war, the Daimler Engine Factory was run over by the Russians advancing against Germany. So the Spaniards needed an Engine and found out to buy them in England, and changed the plane to be able to use them. It is easy to see from the air intake in front, and the "high" propeller. We have most of one of those Engines in The Sommer Car Museum, north of Copenhagen, from when the planes had been scrapped and the owner, Ole Sommer found one in a scrapyard in Spain! Ole Sommer produced several fine Danish built cars during the years, mostly for the fun of it, and many based on Volvo technique, as he was a Volvo Dealer. The last one: "Oscar" was a sportscar based on the Ferrari/AC Cobra like shape, and with 50 years warranty against rust in the frame below.
This post is rubbish Its was NEVER abandoned or forgotten about. The gentle that owned this cpllection had noone to leave it to after his only son was killed in an accident. SO HE PUT THEM ALL UP FOR SALE AS WELL AS THE REST OF HIS AIRPLANE COLLECTION 😊
I take it that These planes are Not the ones that were found in a Spanish warehouse that had been sent to Spain by Germany for use in the Spanish Civil War, yes? Help?
+@BruceWSims No, these are HA-1112 that were manufactured after WW2 in Spain. And they are leftovers from the 1968 Battle of Britain film that were given in lieu of payment to one of the movie pilots.
@t.j.payeur5331 They are ex-Spanish AF HA-1112 planes. They were on Connie Edward's ranch in Texas and had been given to him by the makers of the 1968 Battle of Britain movie when the producers didn't have money to pay him for his work as a lead pilot for the film. Edwards sold all of them before his death.
@@TheEpiccow400 they aren't props. They are actual planes. Just not what they are painted to be. I remember when they all went up for sale and you can Google the listings. They are just foreign versions of the German planes.
When I was stationed in West Germany years ago, I heard that there was an underground storage area that had a large number of WWII German aircraft and was rigged to explode if anyone tried to enter the place. It was probably a rumor, but wouldn't it be a real find if it was true! I love those old war birds, even axis aircraft.
That are not German Warplanes!!! Wrong Motors, Spinners and Propellers... Its a rebuild licence version of the Me 109 ... I think for Spain. That are planes for a film production...probablly Die Luftschlacht von England ...The battle of Britain...
The Hispano Suiza version used in the movie The Battle of Britain. They were shipped to an aviation restoration hangar in Salinas CA just a few years ago
Whether or not they were built by the Spanish at the end of or after WW2 and were used in the WW2 movie "The Battle of Britain" these Messerschmitt 109s are still a cool piece of history even if they aren't true warbirds. It's the same as if a few P-51 Mustangs or P-47 Thunderbolts were built, put in storage, never used in combat but flown a few times. I would love to have one in my collection if I could afford such a collection.
+@briancathey498 This private hangar of Spanish Buchons was well-known and certainly not abandoned. In actuality, many usable aircraft and materials that were not scrapped immediately at the end of WW2 were re-purposed. This included some German aircraft, with the French using up leftover Fw-190s and parts for a short time. The Finnish used leftover Bf-109s until the 1950s. The closest to a "warehouse" that I can think of is a warehouse full of DB engines in Czechoslovakia which could have powered their Avia S-199 fighters, but it burned in 1947 either accidentally or intentionally.
Minuto 0:44.- La primera imagen que aparece es la de un Hispano Aviación "Buchón", que fue un avión español que no voló durante la 2ª GM sino ya entrado en los años 50. Fue un Bf-109G al que se le acopló un motor Merlin. NUNCA VOLARON DURANTE LA 2º GUERRA MUNDIAL. ESTE VIDEO ES FALSO.
Yes it surprised me as well. My memory is leaky but i believe the B of B film Buchons had 3 bladed props. Note that Merlin engines were however mated to anything from 2 to 6 bladed props at different periods in development.
These are Spanish-made aircraft, English engines. And the German designation was applied precisely for filming the film. So this not and WW2 german aircraft.
And they found them exactly in this state after filming.
Ok - thanks
Los Messerschmitt 109 tuvieron su bautismo de fuego en la guerra civil española, y la ultima vez que entraron en combate fue en la guerra de sis ifgni, entre España y Mrruecos, ya eran como Buchones, pero eran Messerschmitt 109 a los que se le habia implatado el motor de su encarnizado rival el spitfire, por falta del motor aleman.
Click bait
Yes, indeed *. . .*
Spanish Buchón with Rolls engine from the Battle of England film
It's not "a find", everybody knew they were there and who was the owner, it wasn't "abandoned" at all, owner and heirs sold them at the right time. ABSOLUTE CRAPPY CLICKBAIT 😡.
+ @Ala3ManOWar And I always heard that Mr. Edwards was happy to share a beer and show you his planes, as long as you were not a BS'er or nosey.
It's not a sensation find at all. Everyone knew these aircraft were there in Connie's hangar
whos connie
@@TheEpiccow400 Connie with the hangar.
@@TheEpiccow400 Connie Edwards.
I visited there often, Connie was very interesting gentleman.
These were the Hispano 'Buchons' that were used in the making of the film 'Battle of Britain.' Most of the aircraft shown here have since been restored to flying condition. The irony of a German WW II Messerschmitt being powered by a Rolls Royce Merlin engine, has not escaped me.
Do you remember the man that owned many of these planes that passed away a few years back,he flew many in the movie ,battle of Britain? He was going to leave the planes to his son but his son passed before him.
@@9997-g4g Ray and Mark Hannah.
@@Modeeus Thank you!
@@Modeeus The gent I was referring to was Wilson Connell "Connie" Edwards.
tmw you have nothing interesting to post so you clickbait something that's been well known for decades.
Tmw you have nothing interesting to say
@@aerokiinesis is that your autobiography?
Nothing new here . Zzzzzzzzzzzz
These are not real Messerscmitt, its a « Buchon »
So old
True, i saw it long time ago, too
It's crazy how the normally menacing looking 109 winds up looking positively goofy with the "buchon" treatment.
Quite. Probably as dangerous to their pilots as they would be to an enemy aircraft!
I had coffee with Mrs. Edwards,,,the half owner I guess you could say of these planes at an airshow in TX back in the mid 80s I guess, and the story behind how her husband-Connie Edwards came into owning these airplanes is almost as interesting as the airplanes themselves.
Bait and switch. Well deserved thumbs down.
Diese Flugzeuge konnte jeder Zeitweise 1969/70 auf dem Flughafen Köln-Butzweilerhof Stadtteil Ossendorf (Lufthansa 1926 Aufnahme des Linien-Flugbetriebes Köln-Paris) besichtigen. Nach den Dreharbeiten zu Battle of Britain - Premiere 17.09.1969 in Köln - wurden die Maschinen sehr günstig zum kauf angeboten. Die ME 109 wie auch die HE 111 aus spanischen Armee Beständen Nachbauten -besaßen Rolls Royce Motoren und wurden später teilweise auf Original Motoren von Daimler Benz umgerüstet.
After the sale of the German fighter to Spain, during the war, the Daimler Engine Factory was run over by the Russians advancing against Germany. So the Spaniards needed an Engine and found out to buy them in England, and changed the plane to be able to use them. It is easy to see from the air intake in front, and the "high" propeller.
We have most of one of those Engines in The Sommer Car Museum, north of Copenhagen, from when the planes had been scrapped and the owner, Ole Sommer found one in a scrapyard in Spain! Ole Sommer produced several fine Danish built cars during the years, mostly for the fun of it, and many based on Volvo technique, as he was a Volvo Dealer.
The last one: "Oscar" was a sportscar based on the Ferrari/AC Cobra like shape, and with 50 years warranty against rust in the frame below.
This post is rubbish
Its was NEVER abandoned or forgotten about.
The gentle that owned this cpllection had noone to leave it to after his only son was killed in an accident.
SO HE PUT THEM ALL UP FOR SALE AS WELL AS THE REST OF HIS AIRPLANE COLLECTION 😊
+@tonyriordan2853 The Buchons were sold as a lot before Mr. Edwards passed away. The rest of his estate is being sold off.
A bit of a shame (very little bit!) they weren't D.B. powered, but yummy just the same! Well done to all involved.
These were the aircraft used in the 1969 film The Battle of Britain.
Maravilloso... y no le retiraron la esvástica. Jajaja
I take it that These planes are Not the ones that were found in a Spanish warehouse that had been sent to Spain by Germany for use in the Spanish Civil War, yes? Help?
+@BruceWSims No, these are HA-1112 that were manufactured after WW2 in Spain. And they are leftovers from the 1968 Battle of Britain film that were given in lieu of payment to one of the movie pilots.
Gee..thanks for giving absolutely no information about these airplanes...
@t.j.payeur5331 They are ex-Spanish AF HA-1112 planes. They were on Connie Edward's ranch in Texas and had been given to him by the makers of the 1968 Battle of Britain movie when the producers didn't have money to pay him for his work as a lead pilot for the film. Edwards sold all of them before his death.
wow disappointing to see misleading content from you, none of these planes flew in ww2 they are movie props and we've known they're there
this is not "movie props" this is real airplanes
@@MomentalnoVMore built for movies, movie props
@@TheEpiccow400 well they were painted for a movie. But they are real WW2 Era planes. Just not genuine German planes.
@@ChevTecGroup wrong
@@TheEpiccow400 they aren't props. They are actual planes. Just not what they are painted to be. I remember when they all went up for sale and you can Google the listings. They are just foreign versions of the German planes.
These are the planes used for the movie Battle of Britain,they are the Spanish version of Bf-109.I think they are called Hispana or something similar
Звук планирующего Мессера не перепутаешь ни с чем!
Das ist doch schon eine Weile her der Fund, hab ich schon vor langem gesehen.
THESE SPANISH BUILT 109s HAD [ ROLLS ROYCE MERLIN ENGINE'S ] IN THEM .
Glad someone else caught that. They're definitely not the inverted-V Daimler engines that the German-built aircraft had.
True or not, still very nice to see how well they were kept. And a whole lot of them. Wow !
A truly horrible aircraft in many ways.
I'm very glad he saved these aircraft, the stars of the Battle of Britain movie. 👍❤🇺🇸
Looser
When I was stationed in West Germany years ago, I heard that there was an underground storage area that had a large number of WWII German aircraft and was rigged to explode if anyone tried to enter the place. It was probably a rumor, but wouldn't it be a real find if it was true! I love those old war birds, even axis aircraft.
Sorry. Glenn Hammond Curtiss. That's why it's a Curtiss Jenny.
It is very sad that such beautiful aircraft had to only be produced for war.
i think they were taken as payment by a pilot who flew in the battle of britain movie in lew of money and he had stored them ever since
+ paul kelk That is correct. He sold all of them together and the rest of his aircraft are being sold from his estate.
That are not German Warplanes!!!
Wrong Motors, Spinners and Propellers...
Its a rebuild licence version of the Me 109 ... I think for Spain.
That are planes for a film production...probablly Die Luftschlacht von England ...The battle of Britain...
very cool....thanks for posting..
Refit them with DB's & you've got 3 finger-4's 😊
Yo Soy partidario dé qué ésos aviones los venden y donen él Dinero a las personas nesecitadas,
The Hispano Suiza version used in the movie The Battle of Britain. They were shipped to an aviation restoration hangar in Salinas CA just a few years ago
Whether or not they were built by the Spanish at the end of or after WW2 and were used in the WW2 movie "The Battle of Britain" these Messerschmitt 109s are still a cool piece of history even if they aren't true warbirds. It's the same as if a few P-51 Mustangs or P-47 Thunderbolts were built, put in storage, never used in combat but flown a few times. I would love to have one in my collection if I could afford such a collection.
These planes participated in the Ifni war (1957 - 1958) between Spain and Morocco.
4 bladed 109s
Cool! What would one of those be worth today? Hate to think!
Great vid and I love the music. 🤘
Show de bola! Vai virar um belo acervo de Museu!
yeah i dont think they would ever find an (old) warehouse with real bf 109's .
+@briancathey498 This private hangar of Spanish Buchons was well-known and certainly not abandoned. In actuality, many usable aircraft and materials that were not scrapped immediately at the end of WW2 were re-purposed. This included some German aircraft, with the French using up leftover Fw-190s and parts for a short time. The Finnish used leftover Bf-109s until the 1950s. The closest to a "warehouse" that I can think of is a warehouse full of DB engines in Czechoslovakia which could have powered their Avia S-199 fighters, but it burned in 1947 either accidentally or intentionally.
Fake!
+@guidokreimer9621 The Buchons, Spitfire, and P-51 were on Connie Edwards' ranch in TX. Edwards sold the Buchons before he passed away.
Buchones made in Spain.
Sensational
the front ends fooled me, i thought they were P40s and why are the blue?
On many planes the blue bottom was to make the plane less visible from the ground. Here it is maybe a little too much?
Minuto 0:44.- La primera imagen que aparece es la de un Hispano Aviación "Buchón", que fue un avión español que no voló durante la 2ª GM sino ya entrado en los años 50. Fue un Bf-109G al que se le acopló un motor Merlin.
NUNCA VOLARON DURANTE LA 2º GUERRA MUNDIAL.
ESTE VIDEO ES FALSO.
Das Good yah!
🇲🇫👍👍🇲🇫.
how does that german plane still work like wow
Why are those 109 had four blade propeller? Thats kinda weird
Yes it surprised me as well. My memory is leaky but i believe the B of B film Buchons had 3 bladed props. Note that Merlin engines were however mated to anything from 2 to 6 bladed props at different periods in development.
AHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!🤣🤣🤣
為了勝利，不計代價 投下資源，到最後 可能是一場空夢！? 🤔
Love those ww2 fighters ... That's a south American models -- see the engine set up tells that
those are spanish license built 109s. with either french or british engines used, depending on model. no idea how you got south america with that.
@@Seygem On a flat earth they do be South American *. . . ;-)*